All 3 look great inside and out. But the GS, clearly gets the nod looking at them side to side to me from an exterior standpoint. Interiors are all very nice, pretty much a toss-up.

Man it's really hard to tell...I think I'd have to see the cars in person.

-Seize

Originally posted by Seize
Man it's really hard to tell...I think I'd have to see the cars in person.

-Seize

I have to agree. I remember when I used to look at pics of the 2nd Gen GS and it didn't do anything for me. When I saw it up close.. that all changed. :)

-Anthony

Acura doesnt have the look of a luxury car plus its not RWD, the only thing i like is the interior. :thumbdn:

M35/45 looks OK......i really like the interior and it will have many cool features. The taillights are ugly and Ithink it looks too much like the G35 sedan.

GS3/4 also looks OK......I like the back and sides of the car, but the front is ugly especially the headlights. I dont really like the interior either, I wish it was more like the one in the LS or SC. Plus it does kind of resemble the new Maxima.

Just based on looks, i would take the GS over the M35/45 because with a few mods it will look great.
But i would have to compare the specs/features/options/price to make my final decision if i decided to buy 1 of them. For now im happy with my current GS. :D

Exterior, I definitely prefer the M.

Interior is very close, although I'd give the nod to the M as well.

All three cars are nicely done, however.

I voted M exterior because it just looks so muscular to me. I even like the current M45 and I know I'm in the minority for that one. I voted the GS interior because they all look pretty even to me, but knowing Lexus quality interiors, I vote the GS over the others.

James

Well having seen all these cars at the NY Auto Show, I like the GS the best. I didn't like the fact that the wood on the door is very minimal compared to today's GS430, as if they cheapened the interior. Also the fact the stupid model would not open the back door for us to see the rear seats and legroom ticked me off. The RL was locked with tint, making it hard to see inside. Looked good, but V6 with 300 HP, must be a high redline to get that power. And the M45 looks nice, I didn't like the dash layout personally and the G35 taillights have to go, make it look unique. I still would pick the new GS overall though. But I look forward to seeing all 3 cars on the roads and the perfomance numbers they put up as well.

m45 babee! i duno about it being my next car but looks that way right now.

~ Stella

Outside and inside, the GS is clearly the classiest one of the three. The M45's interior is way too garish....stark black/white contrasts and metallic trim. Looks like an Elvis Presley car from the 1950's. The Acura's has too much of a hi-tech look....and also too much metallic trim. The GS has nice-looking wood and leather and a tasteful appearance.

Love the gauages on the RL , love the interior of the GS, and for the Exterior the M45 does it for me.

Not one of three would get my money. Only the front of the M45 looks good, only the interior of the RL looks good , I think the front of the RL jacks up the whole car. Theres nothing about the GS I like.

I perfer the Infiniti Exterior
Acura RL Interior
Lexus Customer Service.
:D

its a fight between the M45 and the GS they both look great

I'd get the INFINITY.. but wait a year and let the Infinity *****ty resale kick in


J

Hey I got an idea slap the M45 tails on the back of that GS and you'd have yourself one killer new Avalon.

I like the GS in & out. The RL has a nice, youthful, sporty interior, but the out looks like another Accord. I'd rather have an Accord than an Infiniti :cool:

Originally posted by Lord of the Celsiors
Love the gauages on the RL , love the interior of the GS, and for the Exterior the M45 does it for me.

Amen, brother.

I hat the Infiniti interior, it's not smooth at all. It reminds me of the XJ Jaguar which is hideous.

Sicklex you should have made the poll multiselect and had less options.

gs430! just looks amazing! but as well as the others but overall I would get the 430!

M45 has nice ext presence

The M45 and RL are a huge step up from their respective predecessors. Nice designs.

My initial vote is the GS. Not only because I'm a bit biased, but also because I've seen high quality pics of the new GS posted on CL.

Just curious...anyone have the specs and possibly some more pics of the M45 and RL?

Originally posted by GSpeed
The M45 and RL are a huge step up from their respective predecessors. Nice designs.

My initial vote is the GS. Not only because I'm a bit biased, but also because I've seen high quality pics of the new GS posted on CL.

Just curious...anyone have the specs and possibly some more pics of the M45 and RL?

Check these two threads
Infiniti
http://www.clublexus.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=116020
Acura
http://www.clublexus.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=116114

Thanks for the links Brick. Both are seriously tight!

Like those specs on the new M45. If they keep the price at around $40K it gonna be hard not to consider it.

My breakdown:

The interior of the acura is really alluring, very organized and clean. :thumbup: HOWEVER I also know when i sit in it, there will be no comparison to the GS's "feel" inside of warmth and quality.

The exterior of the infinity is just damn sick. I like it a lot. has a slight advantage to the GS IMO, but only by a very tiny amount.

Only one of the three will hold it's resale value and stay out of the shop without a gang of recalls. Therefore, i just can't spend that kind of money on a car that will get christmas cards from the service department.

GS all the way baby!

i would do the new m45.. looks real hot...but i would also need 2 c all cars in person 2 really decide

I like the M45 exterior and interior, but I like the interior of the new GS a bit more. Not enough to overcome the exterior though. I'll have to see the Acura in the flesh. AWD with 300hp, with the GS you can only get it in the V6, too bad for lexus.

I would like to see the new Audi A6 added to this. While it is not Japanese, it is a direct competitor and also brand new.

I wonder in Acura is going to stick with the fake wood in the new RL. I can't tell from the pics. Fake wood in a car in this class is unacceptable. But I guess thats why Lexus is the gold standard.

After constantly seeing pics of the GS, it has grown on me a lot. I can only imagine how much more it will grow on me once I see it in person. The exterior of the acura does not do anything for me, and I hate the rear end of the M. So for me, its the GS hands down.

I'm with rover and Lord's assessments on this one. I've always liked the GS, but this newer model just doesn't do it for me like the gen 2 did..."something wicked this way comes". That was a GREAT ad for gen 2, and where I really fell in love with Lexus.

I think the M45 looks niiiice except for the back end... its just out there

to be honest I love the way the current M45 looks its so clean, a black one with VIP dished 19" wheels slammed.... they look amazing

the new GS... I'm not sure if I love it or hate it yet... it looks too fat in the back, but you never know until you get used to it, I felt the same thing about the 2nd gen GS... back was fat... but now I'm cool with it the interior is damn nice though

RL interior with the GS exterior would win me over.

Got love acuras blue dash lights :dance2:

I love the M's interior but without an L on the steering wheel I wouldn't feel right driving it.

This is to easy.

GS inside and out!!!

:thumbup:

All of this comes from the latest issue of Automobile magazine.

2005 Cadillac STS
Of these three outsiders, Cadillac had eyed this prize the longest. Back in 1975, the first Seville was supposed to take it to Mercedes-Benz; it did nothing of the kind but proved hugely successful in its own right, albeit among domestic-luxury shoppers. The 1992 model made a major leap forward--particularly in STS form, it brought Caddy within earshot of the party. But the stellar Northstar V-8 (which arrived in '93) only served to highlight the limitations of the Seville's front-wheel-drive layout, the chassis dynamics were more Michigan than Munich, and the interior execution remained off the pace. With the 2005 STS (the Seville name has retired--perhaps to Spain), Cadillac acknowledges these past issues and gathers its energies for a serious run at the Germans.
The STS starts with GM's excellent Sigma platform, a rear-wheel-drive architecture that also underpins the CTS and the SRX. The DOHC Northstar V-8 returns, now oriented north-south. Output has been bumped up to 320 horsepower and 315 pound-feet of torque. To parallel more closely the German competition, long offered in six-cylinder and V-8 variants, Cadillac is adding a six-pot STS, using the 255-horsepower, 3.6-liter, DOHC V-6 from the CTS and the SRX.
Both engines use five-speed automatics with manu-matic shifting, but, at least initially, only the V-8 can be combined with optional all-wheel drive (which includes four-wheel traction control). Strangely, the V-8 and rear-wheel drive combo comes with three different final-drive ratios, while the other powertrains have only one each. Presumably, it is when using the liveliest ratio that the rear-wheel-drive V-8 STS accelerates from 0-60 mph in less than 6.0 seconds, as Cadillac claims. The all-wheel-drive model, which uses the middle ratio, adds a second to that time. The division hasn't yet released any performance figures for the V-6, which employs the lowest final-drive ratio exclusively.
Chassis-wise, there are some variations as well. Equipment on the base model includes an aluminum control-arm front and multilink rear suspension, four vented disc brakes, stability control, and panic brake assist. The optional Sport package offers MagneRide (magnetically controlled active dampers with two driver-selectable firmness settings), larger brake rotors front and rear, and speed-sensitive steering.
The sheetmetal stretched over the hardware hews to the creased, angular theme first set out by Kip Wasenko with the Evoq concept car and used on the CTS, the XLR, and the SRX. It's mellowed somewhat here but still marks a tire-squealing departure from the previous Seville. The new car is shorter, narrower, and taller, proportions that should help the STS in European markets, where it has been all but invisible.
The cabin is all-new, with slimmer gaps and better-quality materials; BMW obviously has been a model. Lots of new equipment has been added, bringing the STS up to the levels of excess that typify this category. Please welcome keyless ignition, active cruise control, a heated steering wheel, remote starting, voice recognition, curtain air bags (in addition to side air bags), heated and cooled seats, a head-up display, and Bluetooth capability.
The most changed car here, the 2005 STS has turned itself inside out to gain entry to the club. If it fails, Cadillac won't be able to fall back on excuses of packaging and layout. But if it succeeds at last, it puts a dramatic exclamation point on Cadillac's much-ballyhooed renaissance.

Design Commentary on the 2005 STS:
Amazing. In this trio of conservative, understated four-door hot rods, the homegrown product comes off best. Not as zoomy as the Acura, not as plump and bulgy as the Infiniti, the Goldilocks STS is just right.
- Robert Cumberford

2006 Infiniti M45
Carlos Ghosn and his hyperspeed new-product-development pace have lit a rocket under Infiniti's butt. In 2001, the sleepy luxury-car divison barely had a reason to exist, selling three rebadged Nissans and a soggy, Buick-wannabe Q45. Then came the new, tech-laden Q45; the unique and compelling FX; the fabulous G35 sedan and coupe; and, just recently, the QX56, a rebadged Nissan Armada. Largely overlooked in the sudden downpour of new product was the M45, which slipped into the lineup with little fanfare but a big assignment: to make Infiniti a player in the luxury mainstream. The M45 was fortified with the Q45's 340-horsepower V-8 as standard fare, yet it was priced closer to its competitor's sixes. But the M45's chassis, adapted from the three-year-old Japanese-market Nissan Cedric, was a little ragged, and the vaguely retro, flat-pane styling could have been more generic only if it had been wrapped all in white and labeled "car."
Come next spring, things will change. Infiniti has just unveiled the new M45, and although it's officially a concept, only minor details differentiate this from the car that will roll into dealerships one year from now as a 2006 model.
The styling is obviously all-new; given the sales of the current M45, Infiniti had even less reason than Cadillac to save anything from the outgoing car. The slab sides give way to more dynamic shapes. In keeping with the current custom, the wheels move farther out to the corners; the wheelbase grows four inches, but the overall length shrinks; and the car is also slightly taller and wider. The design is far more distinctive overall.
Underneath the new sheetmetal are big changes as well. It's not a wholesale shift in philosophy, as the M45 already had rear-wheel drive and a V-8 engine, but it is a new chassis. Specifically, the new car rides on Nissan's all-conquering FM (front-midship) platform, which also underpins the G35, the FX, and the Nissan 350Z. "Front-midship" refers to the engine location, which is behind the front axle for more balanced (less nose-heavy) weight distribution. The new chassis also vastly improves body rigidity (by 40 percent in torsional rigidity and 400 percent in bending stiffness).
In addition to rear-wheel drive, the new car will offer all-wheel drive, adapted from the G35x. Suspension changes include a switch from struts to control arms in front and (as an option) the addition of actively adjustable toe angle for the rear multilink suspension, which is supposed to improve high-speed handling.
Like Cadillac, Infiniti is adding a V-6 model, which uses Nissan's omnipresent 3.5-liter V-6, thus creating an M35. Interestingly, the optional all-wheel drive will be offered only with the V-6, as there isn't room to package it with the V-8. The V-8 itself is a case of it-ain't-broke-so-don't-fix-it. The current car's 340-horsepower 4.5-liter will be carried over intact, bringing along its five-speed manu-matic transmission.
In this gadget-happy field, the current M45 is hardly underequipped, what with its adaptive cruise control, voice recognition system, navigation system, and climate-controlled seats. Nonetheless, the new version layers it on thicker, with keyless ignition, a rearview monitor, Bluetooth connectivity, and, most spectacular, a lane-departure warning system.
This system--which promises to be just the thing for Starbucks-sipping, cell-phone-gabbing supercommuters--utilizes cameras in the sideview mirrors that recognize lane markings and send a signal to alert the driver when the car is about to drift over the line. The system operates only above 45 mph and can be switched off; using turn signals tells it the lane change is intentional. (VetteZ06 - Cool!)
The intention of all these changes is the most ambitious sales jump of this trio: a quintupling of volume (to 24,000 units). To accomplish that, the new M will have to do more than look good and drive well--it will have to get noticed. About the only prospects who might not need to be shouted to will be happy G35 owners looking to trade up. That's a group that didn't exist for the current M45.

Design Commentary on the 2006 M45:
It's better to have a bulked-up smaller chassis with plenty of power than a bulky tanker with the same engine. A little thick-looking, a little lumpy around the front end, afflicted with a chrome barrel-stave grille, the Infiniti leads for power. Zoom.
- Robert Cumberford

2005 Acura RL
The current Acura RL didn't exactly cause a Who-concert-style stampede at dealerships when it was introduced in 1996, and in the eight years since, it has aged not so much like fine wine but more like an egg salad sandwich.
The RL's status as a perennial wallflower has been largely the result of Honda's particular philosophies. The company is known for its conservative styling, and, indeed, the current RL's appearance seems as determinedly undercover as Julia Roberts in sweat pants and no makeup dashing into Wal-Mart full of photographers from the Star.
Honda also has shied away from V-8 engines and--except for the S2000 and Acura NSX sports cars--rear-wheel drive, both of which increasingly are seen as essentials in the mid-luxury category.
The new RL, then, has been the subject of much speculation. Would Honda compromise its principles to give the market what it wants? In a word, the answer is no. But the company hopes the changes it has made will be enough to give the RL what it needs.
So there is no V-8 and no rear-wheel drive for the new RL. But the V-6, while still displacing 3.5 liters, is a new, 60-degree engine that gives the RL a massive power boost, taking it from 225 to 300 horsepower. To keep all that power from making the steering wheel twitch demonically and the front tires spin furiously, the RL is fitted with all-wheel drive. This is a front-wheel-drive-based system (like that in the MDX), so the engine retains its far-forward location and transverse orientation. In the RL, the system not only shuttles the torque between the front and rear axles but also can actively distribute torque across the rear axle. Other mechanical highlights include four dic brakes with four-piston calipers and steering-wheel paddle shifting for the five-speed manu-matic transmission.
On the outside, the RL sheds its plain-box sheetmetal for a creased and rounded new suit. (Although Acura characterizes this car as a prototype, it is essentially what we'll see on sale this fall.) Slightly shorter but wider and taller, the new RL has a faster roofline, greater tumblehome, and a more dynamic profile overall. It no longer looks like something that should have lace doilies on the back seat and a white-gloved Japanese chauffeur at the wheel.
The interior, likewise, has been extensively redesigned and features an attractive, modern new dash and livelier use of color, along with Acura's typical high-quality materials. The RL's electronic cornucopia is not as bountiful as the other two cars', but it does include keyless ignition, navigation, satellite radio, and the DVD audio system introduced on the TL.
The new RL may not be what the pundits wanted, but it might be all customers need. This is an extensive makeover to a long-neglected model and is bound to generate interest among the legions of loyal Honda owners and--with the well-received TSX and TL--returning Acura folks. Will they vault Acura into the top tier of luxury cars? We shall see.

Design Commentary on the 2005 RL:
Extreme windshield layback? Check. Pointy nose? Check. Ferrari-style five-spoke alloys? Check. Booming V-8 engine? Well . . . someone has to be last. At least Acura owners will know that they've probably got superior reliability. That's important in a sport sedan, right?

2005 Lexus GS
Lexus has put fear and envy into the hearts of its competitors, but one of its cars, the GS sedan, has been something of a meek sister in the marketplace. The new 2005 version looks ready to make the competition a little more nervous.
The original 1993 GS300, with its Giugiaro design, did stand out a bit from its haven't-I-seen-you-before stablemates. But its 3.0-liter in-line six-cylinder engine was pure milquetoast, rendering moot the performance advantages of its rear-wheel drive. The second-generation GS offered newfound brio in the form of a 300-horsepower V-8 (offered in addition to the six), but unfortunately, the car's styling took a turn for the baroque.
For 2005, Lexus joins Cadillac, Infiniti, and Acura in taking a more serious run at the German establishment, fielding a new, third-generation GS. Previewed at the 2004 Detroit auto show, the new GS not only intends to make more noise among its competitive set but also aims to establish a distinctive look for the whole division (which, for all its success, has never had one).
The GS again will be sold as the GS430--with its 300-horsepower, 4.3-liter V-8 carried over--and the six-cylinder GS300. Stepping in for the smooth but languid 220-horsepower in-line engine is a new, 245-horsepower V-6. Both powerplants are mated to a new, six-speed automatic (with sequential manual shifting) and drive the rear wheels--or, as an option, all four wheels.
The new car bolsters its technology quotient with keyless ignition, a rearview camera, headlamps that turn with the front wheels, less meddlesome stability control, retooled adaptive damping, and a Mercedes-style precollision system.
For all that, the boldest change is certainly the new design. The size has changed very little, but the styling is far more dramatic. Our own design editor, Robert Cumberford, pronounced it "smoother and far more interesting than the Mercedes clones Lexus has done in the past." Will it get the GS noticed? It certainly can't hurt.

(There was no design commentary on the 2005 GS, as its article was more of a sidebar than the other three.)

The GS has won Car of the year, 2 times ten best awards, it's the most reliable in it's class and did bring younger and a sports car mindset to Lexus. Hell, it was the fastest automatic sedan until the AMG cars started coming. The 1st gen was a failure, the 2nd gen was a succeess. I have no idea what that idiot is talking about. It made plenty of noise with it's competitors and has finished 1st, 2nd or 3rd in comparisons.

Sigh, I canceled my Automobile subscription last year as they have the worst articles/pics and layout.

Originally posted by 1SICKLEX
All of this comes from the latest issue of Automobile magazine.

The second-generation GS offered newfound brio in the form of a 300-horsepower V-8 (offered in addition to the six), but unfortunately, the car's styling took a turn for the baroque.
Our own design editor, Robert Cumberford, pronounced it "smoother and far more interesting than the Mercedes clones Lexus has done in the past." Will it get the GS noticed? It certainly can't hurt.


Is that magazine for real????? I feel like im reading some posts on mbworld.org
The GS still looks current 7 YEARS after its introduction, and what MB clones does Lexus produce?
:thumbdn: :thumbdn:

BTW i saw the new STS at the NY car show, and it looks like an uglier version of the CTS. I give Cadillac a lot of credit for revamping their brand but im just not feeling the new exterior/interior styling of their cars.

I'm sick of hearing people say that Lexus has created MB clones.
What models are they talking about? Do they argue the LS? Come on!
Compare the the 1990 LS400 to any '90 Benz and the LS looks futuristic
and far superior. Lexus is the one that creates new design trends and it's
others that copy them. For example, the original LS, the original SC, 1st &
2nd GS, and the RX to name a few have done the influencing.

If anything, it's the other way around.

Originally posted by RNM GS3
Is that magazine for real????? I feel like im reading some posts on mbworld.org
The GS still looks current 7 YEARS after its introduction, and what MB clones does Lexus produce?
:thumbdn: :thumbdn:

Not giving MB any props, just wanted to reply to your clone statement. You don't think the LS430 looks like the old S-class? Does to me. Also, the last gen ES300 with the 2 tone paint. That was a MB thing for quite a while. I'm not saying Lexus purposely copied but it sure looks like it. Again, no props, I place Lexus ahead of MB any day. Most of the benzo's do look good though.

Originally posted by reggiek
Not giving MB any props, just wanted to reply to your clone statement. You don't think the LS430 looks like the old S-class? Does to me. Also, the last gen ES300 with the 2 tone paint. That was a MB thing for quite a while. I'm not saying Lexus purposely copied but it sure looks like it. Again, no props, I place Lexus ahead of MB any day. Most of the benzo's do look good though.


I still can't agree that the 1990 LS400 looks in any way like the 1990 Benz's.
To prove the point once and for all, here are pics of the '90+ LS and '90+ S-class.
Notice how clean and tight the craftsmanship on the Lex is compared to the
Benz sloppy looking construction. The Lexus easily looks 10 years newer.
Even today, the '90 LS doesn't look that old but the Benz looks ancient in comparison.

...the LS

Originally posted by Milla...
Not one of three would get my money. Only the front of the M45 looks good, only the interior of the RL looks good , I think the front of the RL jacks up the whole car. Theres nothing about the GS I like.

Thank you!! I've been saying it - and I'll say it again ... that RL looks like a Mazda3 with 20's. TERRIBLE!!

Originally posted by reggiek
Not giving MB any props, just wanted to reply to your clone statement. You don't think the LS430 looks like the old S-class? Does to me. Also, the last gen ES300 with the 2 tone paint. That was a MB thing for quite a while. I'm not saying Lexus purposely copied but it sure looks like it. Again, no props, I place Lexus ahead of MB any day. Most of the benzo's do look good though. k

Maybe they're also referencing the GS's use of the quad headlamps (1998+) which first appeared on MB's cars in 1996 with the restyled E-class sedan. Of course, the quad lamps are about the only thing these two cars have in common.

Here's a 1996 E-Class:

Originally posted by whipimpin
Thank you!! I've been saying it - and I'll say it again ... that RL looks like a Mazda3 with 20's. TERRIBLE!!


:eek2: :eek2:
how could you think that RL's front looks like a mazda 3?

but Mazda 3 is one very nice looking car.

RL looks a lot better than mazda 3 to me tho

Originally posted by whipimpin
Thank you!! I've been saying it - and I'll say it again ... that RL looks like a Mazda3 with 20's. TERRIBLE!!
The RLs rear inspiration.:egads:

The Rl looks old already. There is nothing new about this car at all. It has no presence and does not say "50k top of the line sedan". Its not ugly but I cannot figure out why they just didn't make a bigger TSX/TL clone. That would have been alright.

Again

The new GS looks Maximaish to people as the Maxima copied the GS. The GS creates things for people to copy. The M35 looks good but looks like a new I35 or Passat. The RL looks like anycar in the parking lot.
I think Lexus styling is very, very underrated. The LS may not be the most original looking car but the rest of the lineup is pretty okay to me, ugly or pretty.

Originally posted by 1SICKLEX
The Rl looks old already. There is nothing new about this car at all. It has no presence and does not say "50k top of the line sedan". Its not ugly but I cannot figure out why they just didn't make a bigger TSX/TL clone. That would have been alright.

sick, you can say new RL and VW bug are very similar because they both have 4 wheels and 1 engine :(
i love your posts and you always bring all the news to this CL but i think and reallyi think it's enough already :(
no offense or anything with your brother
:)

Originally posted by JLSC4
I still can't agree that the 1990 LS400 looks in any way like the 1990 Benz's.
To prove the point once and for all, here are pics of the '90+ LS and '90+ S-class.
Notice how clean and tight the craftsmanship on the Lex is compared to the
Benz sloppy looking construction. The Lexus easily looks 10 years newer.
Even today, the '90 LS doesn't look that old but the Benz looks ancient in comparison.

I meant the current LS430 resembles the last gen s-class. The 2 tone paint was definitely benz. The quad headlinghts were on a 96 benz. Made it to gs in 98.
Imitation is always seen as a compliment.

Who used quad headlights first (besides Jaguar)?

LEXUS! (SC)

The '98 GS headlight cluster was inspired by the SC,
not the E class.

As far as new RL, I think its a great looking car.
However, like most have said, it is not a suitable
design for a flagship luxury sedan from Acura.
I also don't see any similarities with any other
car on the road including the Mazda 3. It's much
more unique than the current RL.

Originally posted by 1SICKLEX
Again (w/ pic of Hyundai Elantra rear)

Yes - now here's the front's inspiration. Just swap in some 20s and make the headlights look like a woman wearing too much eye-shadow and you've got an instant RL.

Originally posted by 1SICKLEX
The RLs rear inspiration.:egads:

I cannot stop laughing about this - it's just hilarious. Acura did a terrible job styling the RL. I'm not one to "warm up" to designs, but the RL makes the GS's new style look like absolute brilliance.

Hey 1Sick - I kinda prefer the Elantra .... LOL!

Originally posted by DC52E55
sick, you can say new RL and VW bug are very similar because they both have 4 wheels and 1 engine :(
i love your posts and you always bring all the news to this CL but i think and reallyi think it's enough already :(
no offense or anything with your brother
:)

No problemo dude but if I posted any different, I'd be 1nicelex.:D

Someone bumped nearly a 4 year old thread.