2005 Acura RL(new Sick Shots on the road pg2)
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200x Acura RL Prototype! Must See...
Ran across Acura's new RL plan today. According to Road and Track this should preview this fall. Among a beefed up 300 hp 3.5l Vtech engine, the interior and exterior finally have something to look at. Go to http://www.acura.com and click the lower left corner link labeled, "RL Prototype"
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something i saw on tv about it that i thought were really sweet is the new navi that it has... it has up-to-date traffic info so you know where all the congested freeways are...its supposed to start out in 20 cities such as la and chicago, but its supposed to be the first navi of its kind to have the up-to-date traffic reports....
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Originally posted by jet864
Wow...too Accord like. Is Lexus the only company that honestly seems to have model distinction throughout the whole spectrum???
James
Wow...too Accord like. Is Lexus the only company that honestly seems to have model distinction throughout the whole spectrum???
James
Actually, Lexus has similar looking products as well. The ES is the spitting image of a Camry. The Camry Solara is a SC430 without the "L". The LX470 is a Land Cruiser. The GX470 is basically a Land Cruiser Prada. That means almost half (4) Lexus's look like Toyotas. Toyota has used alot of things in both Lexus and Toyotas. The GS300 and IS300 both have the Supra engine. In terms of differences, I think Nissan/Infinit is better.
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Originally posted by LeXuSrAcIn
Actually, Lexus has similar looking products as well. The ES is the spitting image of a Camry. The Camry Solara is a SC430 without the "L". The LX470 is a Land Cruiser. The GX470 is basically a Land Cruiser Prada. That means almost half (4) Lexus's look like Toyotas. Toyota has used alot of things in both Lexus and Toyotas. The GS300 and IS300 both have the Supra engine. In terms of differences, I think Nissan/Infinit is better.
Actually, Lexus has similar looking products as well. The ES is the spitting image of a Camry. The Camry Solara is a SC430 without the "L". The LX470 is a Land Cruiser. The GX470 is basically a Land Cruiser Prada. That means almost half (4) Lexus's look like Toyotas. Toyota has used alot of things in both Lexus and Toyotas. The GS300 and IS300 both have the Supra engine. In terms of differences, I think Nissan/Infinit is better.
The Landcruiser prada is also not offered in the US market so knock that one off.
The SC430 and Camry look somewhat similar but to say its the same without the L is ludicrist.
The ES is the splitting image of the camry? Maybe in the past but certainly not even close in the present.
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I get more excited watching a turtle masterbate than looking at the new RL. The new TL is a good looking car, this new Rl looks like something from 1992. It has the hardware (AWD, 300hp, sweet interior) but again, Acura gives it an exterior only people in the witness protection program could love.
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Originally posted by 1SICKLEX
I get more excited watching a turtle masterbate than looking at the new RL. The new TL is a good looking car, this new Rl looks like something from 1992. It has the hardware (AWD, 300hp, sweet interior) but again, Acura gives it an exterior only people in the witness protection program could love.
I get more excited watching a turtle masterbate than looking at the new RL. The new TL is a good looking car, this new Rl looks like something from 1992. It has the hardware (AWD, 300hp, sweet interior) but again, Acura gives it an exterior only people in the witness protection program could love.
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Originally posted by Captain Bone
Sharing the same parts and looking alike are very different things my friend.
The Landcruiser prada is also not offered in the US market so knock that one off.
The SC430 and Camry look somewhat similar but to say its the same without the L is ludicrist.
The ES is the splitting image of the camry? Maybe in the past but certainly not even close in the present.
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Sharing the same parts and looking alike are very different things my friend.
The Landcruiser prada is also not offered in the US market so knock that one off.
The SC430 and Camry look somewhat similar but to say its the same without the L is ludicrist.
The ES is the splitting image of the camry? Maybe in the past but certainly not even close in the present.
-Anthony
Lexus and Toyota share about as much as Acura and Honda. Its really a closed argument.
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Originally posted by Captain Bone
Sharing the same parts and looking alike are very different things my friend.
The Landcruiser prada is also not offered in the US market so knock that one off.
The SC430 and Camry look somewhat similar but to say its the same without the L is ludicrist.
The ES is the splitting image of the camry? Maybe in the past but certainly not even close in the present.
-Anthony
Sharing the same parts and looking alike are very different things my friend.
The Landcruiser prada is also not offered in the US market so knock that one off.
The SC430 and Camry look somewhat similar but to say its the same without the L is ludicrist.
The ES is the splitting image of the camry? Maybe in the past but certainly not even close in the present.
-Anthony
i agree with you Anthony.
the SC and Solara are totally different interms of quality although they have similar look.
But Landcruiser 100 is as good as lexus LX470 tho.
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Originally posted by jet864
Wow...too Accord like. Is Lexus the only company that honestly seems to have model distinction throughout the whole spectrum???
James
Wow...too Accord like. Is Lexus the only company that honestly seems to have model distinction throughout the whole spectrum???
James
Also, i don't see much of a resemblance with an accord at all...i think people just say that because they assume they are similar when in fact, they aren't
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Originally posted by jet864
Werd. Exactly my point. Not unique. Even if it's a mediocre and not horrible its still very run of the mill.
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Werd. Exactly my point. Not unique. Even if it's a mediocre and not horrible its still very run of the mill.
James
200x Acura RL Prototype! Must See...
This is what an Accord wants to grow up to be. I cannot see this car in the same market as the LS. The RL is supposed to be their flagship sedan as is the LS.
It's a really nice car. Just not in the same level Lexus. For some reason I don't see the same 'refinement" as Lexus. It's too "boy-racer' to be parked in front of the club house or to get premium parking.
But don't confuse 'boy-racer' as the opposite to Lexus' conservative [ boring ] styling.
I've always believed that Lexus has set the benchmark standard by which all the other Japanese manufacturers strive to achieve. With that said, how can that RL even begin to compete with the Germans, when it can't even level the field with Lexus??
The only other way is Acura's drastic marketing and pricing for front-wheeled-drive vehicles. But step into the rear-wheeled-drive premium market and that car will be shipped back over the pacific.
Cheers.
It's a really nice car. Just not in the same level Lexus. For some reason I don't see the same 'refinement" as Lexus. It's too "boy-racer' to be parked in front of the club house or to get premium parking.
But don't confuse 'boy-racer' as the opposite to Lexus' conservative [ boring ] styling.
I've always believed that Lexus has set the benchmark standard by which all the other Japanese manufacturers strive to achieve. With that said, how can that RL even begin to compete with the Germans, when it can't even level the field with Lexus??
The only other way is Acura's drastic marketing and pricing for front-wheeled-drive vehicles. But step into the rear-wheeled-drive premium market and that car will be shipped back over the pacific.
Cheers.
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All in All.....
All in all, the RL has much more features, a faster engine, all wheel drive and despite some of it's short comings, it looks a whole lot better then the previous generations.
Though, I don't believe it can directly compete with the LS 430 yet, Acura is the closest luxury brand trailing Lexus in JD Powers Initial Quality and Long Term Reliability.
Regarding the discussions on similarity amongst brands.. Well, lets not forget, Toyota made Lexus and Honda made Acura, so neither is ashamed or concerned with any of their cars looking similar, because to Toyota, Lexus and Toyota are simply two different names shared by the same company, and the same goes for Honda/Acura.
Someone once got in my LS and said, "Hey! your window glass is made by Toyota", of which I replied, "Toyota is Lexus and Lexus is Toyota". Not sure why people feel the need to completely sever relationships between the brands, they have a symbiotic relationship, that is part of their success.
Though, I don't believe it can directly compete with the LS 430 yet, Acura is the closest luxury brand trailing Lexus in JD Powers Initial Quality and Long Term Reliability.
Regarding the discussions on similarity amongst brands.. Well, lets not forget, Toyota made Lexus and Honda made Acura, so neither is ashamed or concerned with any of their cars looking similar, because to Toyota, Lexus and Toyota are simply two different names shared by the same company, and the same goes for Honda/Acura.
Someone once got in my LS and said, "Hey! your window glass is made by Toyota", of which I replied, "Toyota is Lexus and Lexus is Toyota". Not sure why people feel the need to completely sever relationships between the brands, they have a symbiotic relationship, that is part of their success.
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Everyone keep in mind that the RL was never meant to go in competition against the LS430. Acura doesn't have a car in their lineup that can go against the LS430, S class, 7 Series, Q45, etc. The RL is meant to go against the GS430, E-class, 5-series, M45, etc. So i think that the RL will make pretty good competition, especially since it is now AWD.