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Old Apr 8, 2005 | 04:36 PM
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Thanks to ny888 for the link.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7407441/



Best 2005 sedans
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Car Price range Base price
• Toyota Prius $20,000 - $25,000 $21,415
• Acura TSX (tie) $25,000 - $30,000 $27,760
• Toyota Avalon(tie) $25,000 - $30,000 $26,350
• Lexus ES 330 $30,000 - $35,000 $32,175
• Volvo S80 $35,000 - $40,000 $37,060
• Lexus GS $40,000 - $45,000 $42,900
• Acura RL $45,000 - $50,000 $49,670
• Lexus LS 430 $50,000 - $60,000 $56,226
• Audi A8 $60,000 - $70,000 $67,310
• Volkswagen Phaeton $60,000 - $70,000 $67,565
• BMW 7 Series $70,000 - $80,000 $70,595
• Bentley Arnage (tie) $80,000 and above $215,000
• Maybach 62 (tie) $80,000 and above $377,750
• Rolls-Royce Phantom (tie) $80,000 and above $320,000

Since Lexus inception, the consistency of wins or near the top wins is amazing.
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Old Apr 8, 2005 | 04:43 PM
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The original Forbes article

http://www.forbes.com/vehicles/2005/..._0404feat.html
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Old Apr 8, 2005 | 04:49 PM
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This was one of the toughest categories to settle. The ES 330 has excellent crash-test scores, but so does the Acura TL--and the TL has happier owners than the Lexus. But, the Lexus has a higher Consumer Reports' predicted reliability rating than the TL (as does the Infiniti G35 and Subaru Impreza WRX STi, which would have been our pick, were performance the sole criterion). And what gave the Lexus a decisive advantage over the others was its superior residual value. It also happens to have world-beating comfort and is a joy to drive

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Old Apr 8, 2005 | 04:51 PM
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LOL, they used a pic of the 2GS!


For a more engaging driving experience, get a BMW 5 Series. But, consider that Consumer Reports predicts a new 5 Series will have poor reliability, whereas a new Lexus GS will have very good reliability. Like the BMW, the GS also has very good owner satisfaction. In terms of other competitors, the Jaguar S-Type is also plagued with reliability problems, and an entry-level Cadillac STS is pound-for-pound about as capable and luxurious as a Toyota Avalon, which costs $15,000 less.
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Old Apr 8, 2005 | 04:51 PM
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The model line that put Lexus on the luxury map is still one of the world's most desirable automobiles--and a bargain compared to such competitors as the Jaguar XJ, Mercedes-Benz S-Class and Audi A8. The LS 430 has excellent reliability, owner satisfaction and residual value. It beats the also outstanding Infiniti Q45 in all three of those categories--and the Mercedes E-Class, which has had a major recall in the 2005 model year.
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Old Apr 8, 2005 | 04:57 PM
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Nice...although technically speaking the GS shouldn't be there since it is a 2006 model.

Also, they dogged the S-Class and E-Class because of their poor reliability rankings, but the 7-Series, which is just as unreliable, got chosen in the list?
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Old Apr 8, 2005 | 05:12 PM
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BTW hopefully by the same time next year the new IS350 will win the $35,000 - $40,000 category, making the complete line of Lexus sedans the best sedans.
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Old Apr 9, 2005 | 11:36 AM
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your post wasn't as welcomed on here as it was on car and driver 1 sicklex
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Originally Posted by texan629
your post wasn't as welcomed on here as it was on car and driver 1 sicklex
Yeah word up...I noticed that....they can get quite rude over there all the time....full of trolls...it would be an excellent board if mods controlled that crap better....anyway....glad to see SICK finally got over there....you been missin out.
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that's awesome! i just read about this in the morning, what else can i say fobes man, talk aboutt heir reputation
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that's awesome! i just read about this in the morning, what else can i say forbes man, talk about heir reputation
You mean their reputation as a money magazine ?

I believe they do have influence on people with money to buy luxury cars though
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I believe they do have influence on people with money to buy luxury cars though
hahaha maybe, but i wouldn't mind that though
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