http://bilder.autobild.de/bilder/1/69472.jpg

source : autobild.de

Good find. Looks kinda awkward though. Seems to mimic the way the new GS treats the quad lamps.

AHAHAHHA!! That pic is funny. That seriously cant be the next E-class. Cant really tell considering its kinda small, but that looks like a CGI to me.

Seems to mimic the way the new GS treats the quad lamps.
Exactly my thought. MB copying Lexus??

umm i think the current one looks better.

the front looks pretty weird..... and that's a big ass grille

umm i think the current one looks better.

Agreed. The current one is so sexy.

Exactly my thought. MB copying Lexus??

I would say so ... just look at the new CLS with it's stretched Lexus ES style headlights. Everyone thinks the car is beautiful, yet the ES with similar headlights is a disaster :rolleyes: .

I would think that the CLS is a disaster, seeing as it costs more than an LS, has less interior space than a GS, and yet is a longer car than the GS. So much space in that car is wasted just trying to get those swooping lines. The only thing the CLS has over the GS is a bigger trunk.

It seems that MB's designs are looking more and more Japanese, while BMW's designs are looking more Korean ;) :p .

My how the tables have turned in only 15 years.

Could this be the next S Class? probably too small for it??

I like it alot, but the current one looks better.

the current one is nice... that one looks ugly and a bit like the new GS with the headlight scheme... i dunno IMO the new GS isnt very pretty either..

I love the current ones. The E 55 is such a sexy car! This one looks like a bad copy of the new GS... :thumbdn:

Mercedes should stick with the current one, looks alot better than this so-called new E-class. i think the current E is probably the nicest car ever built, looks wise, and the AMG, well im not gonna go there, but that car is so freakin awesome!!!

I think they should work on improving the quality instead of the look. The current E55 is just a beautiful car. If the reliability was near lexus I would have that car in a second, but then so would everyone else

DAM...Looks like the new GS front end done right. I'm just not feelin the chrome around the new GS headlights.

What an ambomination! And for those of you saying MB copied Lexus with the headlights, it's not the first time. The SC is the first luxo car I can think of with separate high and low beams. However, many say Lexus designs copy MB so I guess it's a wash.

The new E class is so elegant. Everything I can see of this new E class except for maybe the windshield and mirrors :dunno: look horrible. Que sera sera, let 'em go. They can shoot themselves in the foot all the want with the S class and awesome trucko thing.

James

What an ambomination! And for those of you saying MB copied Lexus with the headlights, it's not the first time. The SC is the first luxo car I can think of with separate high and low beams. However, many say Lexus designs copy MB so I guess it's a wash.

The new E class is so elegant. Everything I can see of this new E class except for maybe the windshield and mirrors :dunno: look horrible. Que sera sera, let 'em go. They can shoot themselves in the foot all the want with the S class and awesome trucko thing.

James

personally i think the talk about who copies who and what's similar is getting way too old. who cares, if someone took some ideas like round headlights or trunk line design, but yet able to make the car beautiful, power to them. bimmer definitely isn't copying anyone, we all think they are ugly.....

so what's the point....

AHAHAHHA!! That pic is funny. That seriously cant be the next E-class. Cant really tell considering its kinda small, but that looks like a CGI to me.
It maybe CGI but autobild's CGI's seem to often end up being quite close to the actual car.
Look at their CL class CGI & the spy pics in the CL spy shots thread, they looks quite close overall except for the wheel arches. Their CGI's are often more accurate compared to those of Japanese magazines' CGI's of future Lexus/Japanese car models IMO.

It maybe CGI but autobild's CGI's seem to often end up being quite close to the actual car.
Look at their CL class CGI & the spy pics in the CL spy shots thread, they looks quite close overall except for the wheel arches. Their CGI's are often more accurate compared to those of Japanese magazines' CGI's of future Lexus/Japanese car models IMO.

i agree, the PS cars in most jap mag... they are really PS, often off...

Looks terrible. Hope it's not how the redesign actually looks.

I would say so ... just look at the new CLS with it's stretched Lexus ES style headlights. Everyone thinks the car is beautiful, yet the ES with similar headlights is a disaster :rolleyes: .

I would think that the CLS is a disaster, seeing as it costs more than an LS, has less interior space than a GS, and yet is a longer car than the GS. So much space in that car is wasted just trying to get those swooping lines. The only thing the CLS has over the GS is a bigger trunk.

It seems that MB's designs are looking more and more Japanese, while BMW's designs are looking more Korean ;) :p .

My how the tables have turned in only 15 years.

CLS headlights are Celica headlights

I would say so ... just look at the new CLS with it's stretched Lexus ES style headlights. Everyone thinks the car is beautiful, yet the ES with similar headlights is a disaster :rolleyes: .

I would think that the CLS is a disaster, seeing as it costs more than an LS, has less interior space than a GS, and yet is a longer car than the GS. So much space in that car is wasted just trying to get those swooping lines. The only thing the CLS has over the GS is a bigger trunk.

It seems that MB's designs are looking more and more Japanese, while BMW's designs are looking more Korean ;) :p .

My how the tables have turned in only 15 years.
Just my opinion but I see no resemblance between the CLS and the ES. The ES is a disaster??? WHere did you hear that? How is it a disaster? After driving several for loaner cars....I like it. I like the looks of my 99 ES better but I like the current model well enough to get one.

Just my opinion but I see no resemblance between the CLS and the ES. The ES is a disaster??? WHere did you hear that? How is it a disaster? After driving several for loaner cars....I like it. I like the looks of my 99 ES better but I like the current model well enough to get one.
I think TRDfantasy was saying how the people bash about the 2002-2005 ES about the headlights designed and some thinks it's a disaster. But when MB CLS used that designed, most people think it's a beauty. What he's said is, when Lexus put it on the car people think it's ugly, but when MB do the same thing people think it's a beauty.

I think TRDfantasy was saying how the people bash about the 2002-2005 ES about the headlights designed and some thinks it's a disaster. But when MB CLS used that designed, most people think it's a beauty. What he's said is, when Lexus put it on the car people think it's ugly, but when MB do the same thing people think it's a beauty.
Oh...I see it now. That's what I get for not taking time to read carefully. Sorry...LOL

I think TRDfantasy was saying how the people bash about the 2002-2005 ES about the headlights designed and some thinks it's a disaster. But when MB CLS used that designed, most people think it's a beauty. What he's said is, when Lexus put it on the car people think it's ugly, but when MB do the same thing people think it's a beauty.

But they don't look the same...

But they don't look the same...

i think i need to say it again, CLS headlights = Celica headlights

i think i need to say it again, CLS headlights = Celica headlights

I think I need to disagree there, too. Feel free to post some pics to prove your point, though.

http://www.tuning-es.com/fotos/marcas/Mercedes%20Benz/modelos/CLS-2.jpg

http://www.rsportscars.com/foto/07/celicagts04_02.jpg

I see your point, but still don't agree. Sorry. :)

I agree that the lights have that pulled back look but in regards to shape, I'm with Incendiary that they don't look the same. The CLS has two "compartments". One going side-to-side, one going up-and-down. The Celica's units are only one "compartment".

James

I think TRDfantasy was saying how the people bash about the 2002-2005 ES about the headlights designed and some thinks it's a disaster. But when MB CLS used that designed, most people think it's a beauty. What he's said is, when Lexus put it on the car people think it's ugly, but when MB do the same thing people think it's a beauty.

Yup, that's what I meant. :)

But they don't look the same...

They don't look EXACTLY the same, as MB would never be that shameless, but they look close enough. In terms of general shape, they look the same, and the general shape of the ES's headlights is quite often bashed.

http://www.germancarfans.com/photos/3030909.002/1103big.jpg

http://www.lexus.com/assets/models/gallery/photos_popup/main_assets/exterior/E3-793_lg.jpg

The headlight elements inside are quite similar, only the shape of the headlight itself is slight different than the ES's.

those headlights are similar? please..... they are made of projectors, turn signals, high beams, glasses/plastics.... that's really similar

Same post re: Celica applies to the ES. See your point, still disagree...

They don't look EXACTLY the same, as MB would never be that shameless, but they look close enough. In terms of general shape, they look the same, and the general shape of the ES's headlights is quite often bashed.

The headlight elements inside are quite similar, only the shape of the headlight itself is slight different than the ES's.
There's an even closer resemblance between the Solara & the CLS, comparison pics of the 2 has been posted twice here before.

BTW, I do not like the front of the CLS & it's side profile at all, both in pics & in person :thumbdn:

http://bilder.autobild.de/bilder/1/69738.jpg http://bilder.autobild.de/bilder/1/69739.jpg

Translation of the autobild article ;) :

Nervousness in Stuttgart: Calculated the most important model weakening ELT. The e-class , so far subscribed on front places in the permission statistics , fell dramatically. Much too early Mercedes Benz thereby must do without much money, which actually should have brought its volume model in. The large Facelift next year is to turn around driving downhill, but the completely new generation W 212 for the natives of stuttgart, which starts 2009, is still more important.

It must start error free, in the quality convince and may not also the smallest loss afford. Therefore everything comes on the test stand, which a shade on Stuttgart star could throw. Electronic Spielereien just like redundant Gimmicks. First victim of this strategy is the SBC brake, which provided in the current model for much annoyance. Thus in the new e-class again conventionally one brakes - however with electronic support.

But of it the viewer sees to naturally nothing. It is to be inspired only once for the form. And there Mercedes Benz shows new courage our exclusive computer photos documents the new indications of the time. The fifth generation of the e-class works more representatively, more modern, more self-confidently. Although similarities with the current Lexus collection are not to be surveyed, the Mercedes Benz designers created a to a large extent independent alignment, which points from the conservative-baroque present into an sporty-elegant future.

In contrast to C - and s-class , which remains faithful both for the one-piece headlights, gets the e-class a completely new four-eye face with angular pupils, Bi-xenon lamps, bending light and curve headlights. Similarly to the s-class also the W 212 profits from the new night vision technology on laser basis. Likewise by the large brother is taken over the passenger protective system Pre pre-Safe , which tightens belts automatically in an emergency, closes windows and the safest seating position selects. In addition when desired the brake assistant associates plus. It uses the longitudinal control Distronic and an additional nahbereichsradar, in order to increase with to scarce distance the braking power aid preventively.

A condition for the Fahrerassistenzsysteme is an interlaced sensor technology from laser and radar jets, which develop an invisible 360-Grad-Schutzschild around the car. It concerns also to recognize and warn with threatening danger the position of other vehicles or react.

The first step to the active steering element interference is the stabilizing parameter steering element. It compensates cross-wind, longitudinal gutters, aquaplaning and in a further step deviating from given lanes. In preparation are beyond that an early warning system against second sleep, a fully automatic a park pilot and a digital road sign recognition, which make with Nichtbeachten optically or acoustically

The cockpit of the e-class takes over above all the Comand system of the s-class. The newest version consists of a larger monitor and of a mouse with integrated keyboard, which is accommodated between the seats. In contrast to iDrive of BMW can be called up substantial functions by depressing the key directly.

The wheel suspension possesses perfectly new kinetics, but is to be just as little shaken at the decoupled four-steering wheel front axle as at the multi-steering wheel rear axle. Still the customer between stahlfederung, pneumatic cushioning and the hydraulic chassis regulation Active Body control (ABC ) can select. In the work statement brake disks from bonding material, which are manufactured in larger series, offered for favourable prices, are new.

As alternative to the standard drive Mercedes Benz wants to equip nearly all six and eight-cylinder models against surcharge with the all-wheel drive 4Matic. The third 4x4-Generation is not only friction-reduced and easier, but also to a large extent freely of perturbative forces in the steering element. In addition the torque is to be variable distributed within an exactly range not fixed yet between the axles. The traction optimizes and defuses the self-guidance behavior in critical situations.

With the engines the six cylinder is completely clear the volume-strongest aggregate. The four-cylinder makes for certain markets (developing countries, south Europe) and still for certain targeted applications (taxi) sense, is however possibly obligation-coupled with the filter course mechanism. If it survives, then as 1,8-Liter compressor with approximately 180 HP and as 2,2-Liter-Diesel with 177 HP - both with direkteinspritzung.

The remaining motorizing might look in such a way: • E 250, 2,5-l-V6 DI, 214 HP • E 300, 3,0-l-V6 DI, 243 HP • E 350, 3,5-l-V6 DI, 272 HP • E 400, 4,0-l-V8 DI, 320 HP • E 550, 5,5-l-V8 DI, 388 HP • E 63 AMG , 6,3-l-V8, 571 HP • E 280 CDI , 3,0-l-V6, 204 HP • E 300 CDI, 3,0-l-V6, 225 HP • E 350 CDI, 3,0-l-V6 with register loading, 313 HP • E 400 CDI, 4,0-l-V8, 354 HP.

Diesel characteristic numbers stand and fall with the HP politics of the competition. Here it concerns in the future however not only achievement and torque, but also low emissions. Therefore Mercedes Benz will probably equip the new e-class beside the particle filter with urea injection SCR (the additive is refilled with each service). Which does not help the e-class compellingly back to the point, but will do to the environment completely surely well.

Still looks terrible. And those taillights! My eyes!

I hate web-translated pages/articles. They're always barely understandable...

that's a honda Accord...just look at the @$$ :p

http://bilder.autobild.de/bilder/1/69739.jpgMB's image will be DESTROYED if that is what the rear of the next E looks like--a bad, horrible copy of the Accord and the new Sonata (and perhaps the '00-'01 ES300?). :thumbdn: :thumbdn: :egads:

http://carad.ebayimg.com/i8/01/a/03/a9/5d/c7_4.JPG

MB's image will be DESTROYED if that is what the rear of the next E looks like--a bad, horrible copy of the Accord and the new Sonata (and perhaps the '00-'01 ES300?). :thumbdn: :thumbdn: :egads:

I don't find the overall shape of the trunk so bad as I do the look of the taillights. Blech!

MB's image will be DESTROYED if that is what the rear of the next E looks like--a bad, horrible copy of the Accord and the new Sonata (and perhaps the '00-'01 ES300?). :thumbdn: :thumbdn: :egads:

Well, maybe, maybe not - see VVT-i's post previous page, it's still a Benz :rolleyes: & some people will still buy it & think it's nice.

I agree that rear end is blah :thumbdn:

What's up with the taillights??? :rolleyes: They look so cheap and remind me of alot of older cheaper cars. Did MB hire Chris Bangles? Btw, It does look like the current E-class. It seems to have the right dimensions. Maybe this is what the mid-life refresh will look like?

The cockpit of the e-class takes over above all the Comand system of the s-class. The newest version consists of a larger monitor and of a mouse with integrated keyboard, which is accommodated between the seats. In contrast to iDrive of BMW can be called up substantial functions by depressing the key directly.So instead of a single i-Drive joystick/knob that's already enough of a nuisance, the driver will be having to control both A MOUSE AND A KEYBOARD while driving. Just brilliant. Why didn't anybody else think of that? :egads:

I'm so glad Lexus is sticking to the touch screen techonology.

http://www.jesdc.de/news/news/pics/w221-3.jpg
http://www.jesdc.de/news/news/pics/w221-2.jpg
http://forums.mbworld.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=51545&stc=1

Good finds.:)

This one looks like a short current-gen S-Class:
http://www.jesdc.de/news/news/pics/w221-3.jpg
This one hints at the SLR, not bad at all:http://www.jesdc.de/news/news/pics/w221-2.jpg
This one looks like a short next-gen S-Class (a.k.a. mini-Maybach):
http://forums.mbworld.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=51545&stc=1

Just too many vastly different renderings here to make any of them trustworthy or meaningful anymore.:egads:

But they don't look the same...
Please read post#7 by TRD and post#21 by reggiek. I was trying to explaine to reggiek of what TRD was saying. I've never say or agree how the new MB look like this or look like that.

We can't judge the car by the way its headlights or tail lights and make the conclusion that car A look like car B because of the headlights or the tail lights. One designer may have some influence from another car that he loves from the past and applied that influrence to the car he's designing.

I think the future cars design will look more and more like one other one way or another.

The only thing that really jumps out is the 3.5L V6 CDI diesel engine that makes 313HP! Holly crap, I thought the twin turbo diesel in the BMW535 at 272HP was something special. 313HP and 30MPG+ in a mid sized sedan - that's pretty good use of technology - too bad all of the other crap will get in the way of the driving experience.
You think there's enough engine choices there? :rolleyes:

The only thing that really jumps out is the 3.5L V6 CDI diesel engine that makes 313HP! Holly crap, I thought the twin turbo diesel in the BMW535 at 272HP was something special. 313HP and 30MPG+ in a mid sized sedan - that's pretty good use of technology - too bad all of the other crap will get in the way of the driving experience.
You think there's enough engine choices there? :rolleyes:Yes, it's quite amazing that the diesel engines are actually making more horsepower than the gasoline engines of the same displacements.

E350 => 272hp
E350 CDI => 313hp!!

E400 => 320hp
E400 CDI => 353hp!!!

Not to mention the diesel engines will offer far more torque than the gasoline engines.:eek2:
You really have to give it to the Germans when it comes to diesel technologies. :thumbup:

The remaining motorizing might look in such a way: • E 250, 2,5-l-V6 DI, 214 HP • E 300, 3,0-l-V6 DI, 243 HP • E 350, 3,5-l-V6 DI, 272 HP • E 400, 4,0-l-V8 DI, 320 HP • E 550, 5,5-l-V8 DI, 388 HP • E 63 AMG , 6,3-l-V8, 571 HP • E 280 CDI , 3,0-l-V6, 204 HP • E 300 CDI, 3,0-l-V6, 225 HP • E 350 CDI, 3,0-l-V6 with register loading, 313 HP • E 400 CDI, 4,0-l-V8, 354 HP.Edmunds posted a conflicting info today:
http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Articles/articleId=105692

It says the new diesel V8 will be a 4.2L generating "only" 314 horsepower at 3,600 rpm and 538 (!!!) pound-feet of torque at 2,200 rpm, as opposed to a 4.0L generating 354 horsepower as reported by Autobild.

Still it's an amazing engine. :)

Edmunds posted a conflicting info today:
http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Articles/articleId=105692

It says the new diesel V8 will be a 4.2L generating "only" 314 horsepower at 3,600 rpm and 538 (!!!) pound-feet of torque at 2,200 rpm, as opposed to a 4.0L generating 354 horsepower as reported by Autobild.

Still it's an amazing engine. :)

Wow, 538 lb-ft. Sweet...

The CGI still looks hideous.

Edmunds posted a conflicting info today:
http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Articles/articleId=105692

It says the new diesel V8 will be a 4.2L generating "only" 314 horsepower at 3,600 rpm and 538 (!!!) pound-feet of torque at 2,200 rpm, as opposed to a 4.0L generating 354 horsepower as reported by Autobild.

Still it's an amazing engine. :)


dont mess with diesel tq. 538ft-lb is good enough to rip off tar from the pavement. much be fun!
but what the heck is CGI?? MB has E class, CLs and now CGI? i wonder when they would start making C-idontknowwhatiamdoing.

MB's image will be DESTROYED if that is what the rear of the next E looks like--a bad, horrible copy of the Accord and the new Sonata (and perhaps the '00-'01 ES300?). :thumbdn: :thumbdn: :egads:
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can u see sonata rebadged as MB E class in a few years? that'd be funny. :D

dont mess with diesel tq. 538ft-lb is good enough to rip off tar from the pavement. much be fun!
but what the heck is CGI?? MB has E class, CLs and now CGI? i wonder when they would start making C-idontknowwhatiamdoing.

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?r=8&q=cgi

See #2.

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?r=8&q=cgi

See #2.


god i m dumb, someone slap me :egads:

god i m dumb, someone slap me :egads:

:slap:

:p

Mopar meets Benz... :egads:

http://media.autobild.de/bild/8/242a12b9c6f24b04aad9b7955a4f7f38_1.jpg
:egads:
http://media.autobild.de/bild/3/1c7943594abdc199c5be0922a68ccd73_1.jpghttp://media.autobild.de/bild/8/c38c8c774280500b867d33cb1ef532e8_1.jpg

http://media.autobild.de/bild/8/242a12b9c6f24b04aad9b7955a4f7f38_1.jpg
:egads:
http://media.autobild.de/bild/3/1c7943594abdc199c5be0922a68ccd73_1.jpghttp://media.autobild.de/bild/8/c38c8c774280500b867d33cb1ef532e8_1.jpg

Oooooooooooooooo.............I love Honda Accords!! :woohoo:

Oooooooooooooooo.............I love Honda Accords!! :woohoo:

LMAO, I love the new S class despite many peoples conflicting opinion but this E class is hideous very unMercedes. MB was always known (for the most part) for beautiful cars and electronic gremlins but this is scary.

http://bilder.autobild.de/bilder/1/69472.jpg

source : autobild.de


Yep........ This is a clear case of "not leaving well enough alone". I too have read somewhere that the next E will "mimic the new GS" front facia.
My sentiments are echoed by some of you, the current AMG E is almost timeless looking simple yet elegant. Very streamlined and eye-pleasing from every angle. :thumbup:

http://www.mbusa.com/media/images/main/models/gallery/photo_gallery/e/sedan_ext_3_main.jpg

umm...... this is not going well man...

What's up with the tail lights? They scream early 90's Passat.

From my reading:
The S/E and C will no longer look one way, 3 different sizes. All 3 will have distinct features. (I didn't have any issue with the current way, teh cars are beautiful)
The CLE, 4 door E coupe is dropped. (I don't know how this car would be any different than the Eclass based CLS)
The C-hathback is done
No C class convert.

Funny but in EVO, they stated "things have come full circle, with Benz now stealing Lexus cues".

Should I scan? :D

Funny but in EVO, they stated "things have come full circle, with Benz now stealing Lexus cues".

Should I scan? :D
PLEEASE :D :agreed:

PLEEASE :D :agreed:
okay, let me go find :D

http://www.egmcartech.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/11/2009_mercedes_benz_e_class_photo_leak.jpg
November 15th, 2006

Well it looks like from this image that Mercedes Benz will be giving the next E-Class a more coupe feel with the back of the car getting a more sporty look. We think it kind of looks a nice mix between the CLS and the E-Class
source : egmcartech

:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:

Looks pretty cool and wierd at the same time.

WFT!! :egads:

that looks nice
but it also defeats the purpose of having the E class doesnt it?

its meant to be a sedan and many families own it, they want easy access to the back too
MB should leave the 4 dr coupe thing to the CLS only or make another new model.... (wait... they have too many models already!)

that looks very slick, hope it looks something like that :0

That last picture doens't look bad at all... The earlier shots, especially the back end were disgusting.

Dunno :uh: