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Back in July 2003, ‘Holiday Auto’ magazine (Japan) reported the existence of a 1:5th scale clay model of the Next GT-R in which various aerodynamic aids and styling were being trialed… then we heard nothing. Since then a myriad of CG images – by GT-R fans and Nissan alike – have been conjured up, all original designs but all based roughly on the 2001 Tokyo Motor Show Nissan GT-R Concept.

… well, the final design has been decided…

Our source expects the final design renderings to be released by Nissan Design Europe which goes against previous rumors that Nissan Design America would play a part. From now on, NDE will be taking into consideration just how much their design will limit mass production, so there’s a good chance minor details will be changed from the 2005 ‘Concept’ to be shown at this years Tokyo Motor Show. That said, the final shape of the car is complete as is illustrated below:

The above image shows a front bumper with large openings which form one large opening with the grille included. There’s a large diffuser incorporated in the rear bumper too, so both these parts form the basis of the advanced underbody aerodynamics package. Seeing the design of these two major parts of the car have been decided, we can assume that the wheelbase and overall body size have been made final. The main focus of the 2005 Concept design has been to differentiate the GT-R from the regular (and yet to be released) V36 Skyline range. This is evident by the crease line around the waist of the car and details around the headlights and aft of the front wheel arches. The final design is completely original, sharing no major panels with the Skyline. That’s right, the next GT-R has completely shed any links to the ‘Skyline GT-R’ of old. Even though cosmetic details of the next GT-R mirror previous GT-R’s (such as the four round tail lights), it will be very different from any Skyline either current or past.

Lets now have a look at the overall dimensions. The entire length of the next GT-R will be shorter than the R34 (4600mm) coming in at about 4500mm. Then the width! Our informer has jokingly said that the next GT-R will look like a Choro-Q! (a miniature toy car with ‘squashed’ proportions) We can expect the GT-R to be about 1900 to 2000mm wide, with a wheelbase of 2700m giving the GT-R a ‘forward cabin – short front overhang’ look, with large rear fenders reminiscent of the Porsche 911 Turbo used to be back in the late 1970’s. As for other cosmetic changes, there has been talk that Nissan will ‘remake’ the head lights and rear combination lights once again…

Moving on to the engine and driveline, development is really starting to move along. As has been reported on before, the next GT-R will use a 3.2L V6 motor-assist twin turbo engine rated at 480ps powering the rear wheels through a traditional RWD transaxle with the front wheels powered by electric motors controlled by an advanced 4WD controller even more sophisticated than the last version of Nissans ‘ATESSA’… but it seems like something new has happened?


The next GT-R will be lighter than the Fairlady Z/350Z., with the use of carbon and aluminum throughout the car, the next GT-R is destined to weigh in less than the Fairlady Z’s 1450kg. This should put any concerns about the GT-R being heavier due to the incredible amount of new systems and technology that’s slated to be included in the final package.

Back in October last year, the next GT-R prototype was spotted at the Nurburgring old course and subsequently appeared on the cover of just about every car magazine around the world. The Nurburgring prototype completed only a single lap of the old course and was sporting a clever Infinti G35 disguise. The single lap was intended to test mechanicals, but the main focus was on testing a ‘semi-wet sump’ system which is much more practical than the original dry sump system that was planned. So the final decision is a semi-wet sump and we’ll update the details of this as soon as more information arises.

It’s GT-R lore now that the 1989 - 94 BNR32 GT-R sold at a loss for about 5,000,000 yen, when in actual fact it cost 12,000,000 yen to produce, and Nissan CEO Carlos Ghosn has vowed that that situation will never occur again. In fact, Ghosn has said to be pushing for a higher quality vehicle than the next GT-R’s arch rival, the Porsche 911 Turbo. The Porsche 911 Turbo is still the car Nissan want to beat and it seems Ghosn wants to do it better at two thirds the price… But we can rest assured that the next GT-R won’t put Nissan into the red.

Based on Getrag components, Nissan have developed their own sequential 7-speed gearbox for use in the next GT-R. More on this in our next update.
The next GT-R will be sold as ‘Infiniti GT-R’ in markets outside Japan, as that model name has already been registered in Europe, Australia and the USA, and Infiniti GT-R has been registered in Japan too! Although it’s difficult to imagine the final product, we can’t see why there would be any difference at all between the domestic Japanese GT-R and the export version. The last question on everyone’s lips is: Will the GT-R show up as an Infiniti, completely separate from the Skyline?


Nissan will keep production costs of the next GT-R to a minimum by ‘aggressively cutting costs’, which means parts sharing to you and me. In fact, the 7-speed sequential gearbox will be adapted to an all new RWD car which will be the next big surprise after the GT-R is released. As for marketing and final minor details of the next GT-R, Carlos Ghosn is doing his best to keep everything very secret as he has all but claimed the next GT-R project as his own. But all will be disclosed at the Tokyo Motor Show come October.


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That looks like a lexus right ?

I wish somebody who knows Japanese can translate this.

Whoa...good find. A possible look of the production LF-A, which in the article seems to refer to as the 4500GT. Not bad, but I hope it'll ultimately look better than that.:)

That red GT-R looks awesome, BTW. The front is however, :thumbdn: :thumbdn: :egads:.

http://img91.echo.cx/img91/4730/gtr8ei.png http://img93.echo.cx/img93/5837/gtr21og.png

:dunno:

Whoa...good find. A possible look of the production LF-A, which in the article seems to refer to as the 4500GT. Not bad, but I hope it'll ultimately look better than that.:)

Never care for that enzo nose, but I still think it looks better than that drooping front of the LF-A concept.

Nissan will keep production costs of the next GT-R to a minimum by ‘aggressively cutting costs’, which means parts sharing to you and me. In fact, the 7-speed sequential gearbox will be adapted to an all new RWD car which will be the next big surprise after the GT-R is released. As for marketing and final minor details of the next GT-R, Carlos Ghosn is doing his best to keep everything very secret as he has all but claimed the next GT-R project as his own. But all will be disclosed at the Tokyo Motor Show come October.
Le cost cutter strikes again!
But it seems this will be a Nissan GT-R, I wonder if the new RWD car will be a slightly softer Infiniti version with more luxury. Nice new 7 speed.

The car clearly shows its family resemblence with styling.

very nice find! so the new one will have close to 500hp, i like that :) and i like that it's setup like the porsche turbo with so wide of a rear wheel base setup, good deal!

IMO that purple pic of the new GT-R looks like an Audi TT for some reason. Other wise the car is very good looking. Cant wait till this hits the Civic Forums. GT-R emblems will fly off shelves :D

IMO that purple pic of the new GT-R looks like an Audi TT for some reason. Other wise the car is very good looking. Cant wait till this hits the Civic Forums. GT-R emblems will fly off shelves :D
Yea before I saw the emblem on the front I thought TT.

GTR a hatch? Looks like it. That triangle exhaust.... BOOOOO!!!!!

LF-A original concept looks better than this one. Too SLR, Enzo...

looks bugly!

hmm.. the nissan line are starting to look all the same to me.

hmm.. the nissan line are starting to look all the same to me.
:thumbup: Agreed

i dont believe the LFA looks like an ENzo, if anyting its got a Celica nose.

That "trunk " thing is Enzo like, but yes, it does have some resemblance to the Celica too.

The next Skyline GT-R prototype caught testing at Nurburgring:

http://a332.g.akamai.net/f/332/936/12h/www.edmunds.com/media/il/features/tech.center/skyline/skyline.16.500.jpg

Source:
http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Columns/articleId=105699

umm doesn't too different from the current skyline. i just want to see under the hood :D

heres another article I found:
The 2008 Nissan Skyline may be a couple years away, but we've got the latest spy pictures of a new prototype caught testing on the Nurburgring. Expected to come to the U.S. wearing the Infiniti GT-R badge, this super coupe from Nissan is the car that Japanese rivals like the Subaru WRX and Mitsubishi Evolution aspire to.

We've seen this prototype before, but closer examination reveals some variations that have been added since its last sighting. The rear fascia wears an extended bumper section that hints at the GT-R's longer overall length compared to the current Japanese market Nissan Skyline, otherwise known as the Infiniti G35 in the U.S. The view from behind also reveals pronounced front-quarter panels that extend beyond the G35's stock bodywork suggesting a considerably wider track up front. Same goes for the rear quarters, as the view from the front shows some wide wheelwells destined to house some serious rubber.

Regardless of whether it comes over wearing the Nissan Skyline GT-R badge or the Infiniti GT-R nameplate, expect the usual combination of serious horsepower, all-wheel drive and Nissan's latest technological hardware. Nissan CEO Carlos Ghosn suggested in a speech to expect around 400 hp from what will probably be a twin-turbo version of Nissan's VQ V6. Internet chatter has also brought up the possibility of a seven-speed sequential gearbox, but even if that doesn't come to fruition a standard six-speed manual should be part of the package.

Ghosn has also gone on record with the promise of a production version for the 2007 Tokyo Motor Show, but a recent report suggests that yet another concept version may be shown at this year's Tokyo show. Rest assured that regardless of when the Nissan's replacement for the Skyline hits the streets it will be one of the fastest supercars Japan has ever produced.

toyota/lexus Get Off Your Suv/truck Loving Profit Loving Behinds And Bring Us The Supra And Lf-a!!!!!

AGREED SICK!!! :thumbup: :thumbup:
Here's some spy pics of the updated prototype:
The bumpers look different in these pics
http://a332.g.akamai.net/f/332/936/12h/www.edmunds.com/media/il/features/future/infiniti.gt/08.skyline.gtr.lead.340.jpg
http://a332.g.akamai.net/f/332/936/12h/www.edmunds.com/media/il/features/future/infiniti.gt/08.skyline.gtr.r34.500.jpg

toyota/lexus Get Off Your Suv/truck Loving Profit Loving Behinds And Bring Us The Supra And Lf-a!!!!!
What about the Volta Concept ??

We haven't heard about that supercar concept from Toyota lately :cry:

toyota/lexus Get Off Your Suv/truck Loving Profit Loving Behinds And Bring Us The Supra And Lf-a!!!!!

hahaha, good example where it shows that 1sick isn't pro-toyota? :D

What about the Volta Concept ??

We haven't heard about that supercar concept from Toyota lately :cry:Yeah... they have the Prius that iconifies the fuel-economy side of the hybrid concept, but they still need something that properly iconifies the performance side of it.

Sorry I couldn't help but notice but no offense. "Iconifies" is not a word. It's just computer nerd lingo. :uh:

The LF-A and the Volta are the step in the right direction for a pure sports car. But we can only wait and see what Toyota has to offer in the near future.

Sorry I couldn't help but notice but no offense. "Iconifies" is not a word. It's just computer nerd lingo.LOL good catch. You see where I came from.:D

I guess "signifies" is the word I really meant to use.:)

What about the Volta Concept ??

We haven't heard about that supercar concept from Toyota lately :cry:
AND BRING THE DAMN VOLTA as SEXY SAID!!!!

For goodness sakes, it would be nice buying a performance Lexus/Toyota wihtout HAVING to mod the SOB....

toyota/lexus Get Off Your Suv/truck Loving Profit Loving Behinds And Bring Us The Supra And Lf-a!!!!!

Agreed. Why is it taking so long for Japanese brands to give us performance sports car after the mid 90's. Maybe it stung when they rolled out their most powerful best looking iterations of their sports cars and they did not really sell that well but just pulling them from the market and teasing us with rumors they might come back that never really pan out is disappointing. European and American brands are putting out highly desireable performance cars and giving the public what it wants but Japanese brands just argue the need for the car and if the market is right or they need to win a F1 race before they do it. Yes we did get the 350Z and RX-8 but those cars were not as powerful nor as good looking and exotic as the previous cars. They are less expensive but they also get outperfomed by their competition which are on a lower level then the previous cars. Sports cars and high performance is what many Japanese companies like Honda, Toyota, Nissan, and Mazda are known for but they seem to ignore that market and go for family sedans, econo cars,pickups, and SUV sales these days.

Honda should have a new larger engined NSX by now and possibly a more affordable 6 cylinder rear drive sports car. There should be a S2000 coupe by now and a new Prelude. Toyota should have a new Supra, RWD or AWD turbo celica, Lexus GT car, and a more affordable Lexus sports car/coupe. Mazda should have a proper "RX-7" replacement and also utilize 3 and 4 rotor engines since they are known for rotories in a new Cosmo coupe, sports sedan and supercar. Nissan should have a smaller lighter Z car with a better interior plus a Silvia or 240SX replacement with a turbo engine. The GTR is good news but it is taking forever and it is just using a tuned turbo version of the VQ that they use in all their sedans, minivans etc as well as a chasis used by many lesser cars instead of getting its own engine and chasis. The G35 was a great move for Nissan and I give them respect for making it look great and different from the bland looking sedan. I know some of these cars are rumored to be coming out but it just is taking so long without any definate answers, release dates or specs. Just make the cars and stop using family sedan weak or lesser engines and chasis in these perfomance vechicles because the competition is getting fierce.

If Ford with all its troubles can put out the GT and a new iteration of the mustang, GM with all its financial problems put out the GTO, Solstice-they are building it right now, Saturn sports car, brand new 400hp Corvette, V series Cadilacs, XLR, and Chrysler with its sales decline put out the Crossfire, new Viper, 300C SRT8, Dodge Charger then Japanese companies especially very profitable ones like Honda and Toyota can put out some more or improved performance vehicles. I won't even mention all the performance models that European brands have come out with recently or are known to be coming out with soon.

UrbanRacer.Com's exclusive scoop on the GT-R

* SN - Nissan’s Senior VP of Design, Shiro Nakamura

UR: OK, everybody – I mean EVERYBODY - is waiting to see or hear about the next Skyline GT-R. What can you tell us about it?

SN: Well, Mr. Ghosn promised the world a new GT-R in 2007 and we are working to fulfill that promise.

UR: When you unveiled the Nissan Micra and the 350Z – you talked about the 350Z-ness or Micra-ness characteristics of the cars. What are the characteristics of a GT-R?

SN: Top level performance, highest technology, outstanding design, unique presence – having a GT-R aura. It’ll be nothing like a G35 or a Z – it’s really has strong performance. Nothing like any other sports car. Also it’s masculine.

UR: What about the design – is there a GT-R heritage? Which studio is heading the design?

SN: Yes we want to maintain it. When somebody removes the GT-R badges, I want people to recognize that it’s a GT-R. It will have some key heritage features. Our Japanese studio is designing the car.

UR: What about the engine or drivetrain? Will it be turbo six or V8-powered?

SN: I think four-wheel drive since the previous generation had four-wheel drive. I think that when you want high tech performance, two wheel drive might not be good enough. This will be a Japanese high tech performance car. As far as the engine, we haven’t announced it yet, but we will pick the engine best suited for the chassis.

UR: So you are developing the GT-R right now? Are there running prototypes?

SN: Yes. The design is almost, almost done. We only have two and a half years to come, so quite soon we might finalize. Normally, it we finish final design two years before launch so we might finalize this year. Yes, there are running mules.

UR: Okay, you’re killing us. Can you give us more?

SN: We don’t want to make it to expensive. The previous GT-R I think was about $60,000, but the previous generation’s interior quality was not as high when you compare to the performance side. And the new GT-R will have higher level of performance. Anyways, I think it will have a “good price”. Not as low as the previous GT-R, but not as high as $100,000. I think it will be a bargain compared with other European competitors. It will have outstanding performance, design, and quality.

UR: Soo, are we talking about 500 hp?

SN: We have not announced horsepower figures yet, but I think 500 hp is too high. There are serious tax issues in certain countries for that kind of horsepower.

UR: Will it wear an Infiniti or a Nissan badge in the U.S.?

SN: There are serious discussions right now as to what it would be badged as in the U.S. Because there is no heritage of the GT-R in the U.S., there are pluses and minuses for both cases. The GT-R has its own identity – maybe even higher than Nissan. Anyways, we have not decided yet.

UR: We’ve read in other interviews with you that some of your personal favorite car designs include the Shelby Cobra, Porsche 911, and the ’65 Mustang – all iconic cars. What do you think will be iconic 30-40 years from now? The 350Z?

SN: Yes, I think the 350Z will be iconic. The new GT-R will be also.

http://www.urbanracer.com/articles/....asp?a=1437&z=2

interesting read. But i want to see the car already!

Hopefully, they'll have something to show as a concept later this year at TAS . . .

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v160/Suppp/R.jpg

source (http://www.importracermag.com/)

Finally some tangible info. So basically, it's going to be an AWD 400+ hp $70,000 to $80,000 car.

Finally some tangible info. So basically, it's going to be an AWD 400+ hp $70,000 to $80,000 car.
Not bad at all I am sure Nissan really is going to try to make this car kick some serous behind. Did it say what it would be badged as?

I'm hoping it'll be badged as an Infiniti. Kinda weird if the flagship car is a Nissan rather than the upscale brand.

Dunno what Lexus is planning either. They have the Toyota Volta as a future vehicle, but the concept was shown as a Lexus.

I don't think it really matters who gets the GT-R, this vehicle is marketed and sought after by enthusiasts who already know about it, the reason it's even being built is because of enthusiasts, not luxury buyers who are consume with brand names. Besides, if brand is such a big deal, those who cares aren't even going to be looking at an infiniti. The success of the GT-R IMO will be similar to the success of the EVO and STI.

I'm sure the GT-R will sell on its merits, whether as a Nissan or an Infiniti.

The reason why I think it should be badged as an Infiniti is to help the Infiniti brand recognition and the rest of its cars, not because it'll sell more GT-R's.

Face it, Infiniti makes some great cars, but they probably have the poorest recognition out of all the luxury brands, even lower than Acura and Volvo. You say Infiniti and people think you're talking about a stereo.

Infiniti is trying to make itself known as a performance-oriented luxury brand and a kick-ass halo high performance car will have a positive effect on its brand and image.

im really curious as to how the 350z did in comparison to the g35 coupe when it comes to the amount of numbers sold. i see more g35 coupes on the road, but the comparison is quite unfair when u consider a 2 seater vs a 4 seater. but i think the luxury brand sells more.

The 350Z sold a few hundred more per month on average than the G35 coupe, but the Z has a convertible version though.

Now please remind me why could Nissan never bring the SKYLINE GTR to the US???



and btw Could this be the new GTR partnershipped with toyota!?!?!?!?.................................... .........

.sorry i was bored...and could not resist posting this pic in this too serious thread... :D

I like these home made ricer racers!!! :egads:

http://tinypic.com/729lrm.jpg http://tinypic.com/729m51.jpg

That looks pretty cool. Better than the concept in 01

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I want to say, another #$*(*() AUDI grill but the GT-R in R34 version did kind of have the one big grill look with the bumper splitting it into 2.

Good lord all Nissans look the same. Just look at the Teana a couple threads up. It seems to be working though, so why change.

I want to say, another #$*(*() AUDI grill but the GT-R in R34 version did kind of have the one big grill look with the bumper splitting it into 2.

Good lord all Nissans look the same. Just look at the Teana a couple threads up. It seems to be working though, so why change.
It ain't working for me. I don't want to buy a car and have it mistaken for something else.

Therefore I keep my badges on my car and do not do extreme body modifications. I'm not ashamed of my SC400.. ahem debadgers...

GT-R: Infiniti has trademarked the name "GT-R," which leads many to believe that the Nissan Skyline GT-R high-performance car will be sold as an Infiniti when it reaches the United States for the 2008 or 2009 model year. Sources believe the coupe will be powered by a turbocharged V-6 with as much as 400 hp.

A collection of the PHOTOCHOPS (http://gtrlife.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=album_cat&cat_id=1) None of them will resemble the real car I suspect . . .

http://www.autoweek.com/files/specials/2005_tokyo/gallerys/nissan_gtr/images/01.jpg
Nissan GT-R
Nissan's unveiling of the GT-R Proto was good news and bad news. Good because after nearly 30 years, GT-R will be coming to the States. Bad because we have to wait two more years. The car will arrive in the States in 2007, and while it will carry the Nissan name when it launches in Japan, Nissan officials haven't yet decided if it will be a Nissan or an Infiniti when it arrives on our shores. The company is mum on the car's powerplant and the car on the show stand, which was without an interior and engine, is only "80 to 90 percent" of what the final car will be.

So it will be a Nissan one way or another

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What the hell. Why does everyone think that Lexus or Infiniti/Nissan will incorporate these silly M3 side grills. :egads: