Damn why does Europe get all the good cars? Check out this 1.8 liter supercharged Corolla that will be offered only in Europe. I think there is a market for a Corolla like this.I personally think it's bad ass!!
http://img227.echo.cx/img227/6633/corolla4ll.jpg
GFerg
05-13-05, 04:09 PM
Sweet. Have anymore pics?? I wonder if its AWD?? Looks like it competes with the WRX, EVO's, Clios, and the like over in Europe.
Hey you never know what the next generation Corolla may bring. Maybe we will see a more powerful Corolla XRS in the next coming years to compete with the Si's, WRX, Cobalts, Jettas, SVT and such.
ivesGS400
05-13-05, 04:19 PM
Looks like a Matrix with ugly wheels to me :sad:
robloc93
05-13-05, 04:31 PM
Sweet. Have anymore pics?? I wonder if its AWD?? Looks like it competes with the WRX, EVO's, Clios, and the like over in Europe.
Hey you never know what the next generation Corolla may bring. Maybe we will see a more powerful Corolla XRS in the next coming years to compete with the Si's, WRX, Cobalts, Jettas, SVT and such.
This was the only one I found,I'll try to do a search and see how the front looks.
flipside909
05-13-05, 04:45 PM
The Corolla T-Sport. We had a poor attempt at a high powered Corolla w/the XRS model. Sure it's great, but it's a little too late for it's time in my opinon.
BlkGS3
05-13-05, 05:41 PM
but... but... its a corolla :p
XeroK00L
05-13-05, 05:42 PM
Nice. Hopefully the rumor from the Best Car magazine is true about the turbocharged 300hp AWD Corolla WRC to be debuted in summer 2006. That will be really something the Evo, STi and GTi should be very afraid of. :p
Too bad Toyota is probably becoming too environment-friendly to ever do that again.:sad:
TRDFantasy
05-13-05, 06:12 PM
Nice. Hopefully the rumor from the Best Car magazine is true about the turbocharged 300hp AWD Corolla WRC to be debuted in summer 2006. That will be really something the Evo, STi and GTi should be very afraid of. :p
Too bad Toyota is probably becoming too environment-friendly to ever do that again.:sad:
Toyota has an uncanny ability to make a well balanced car, even if it's high powered. Case in point, the new Avalon, which is somewhere near the top in it's class in power AND fuel economy. ;) :cool:
MugenRD1
05-13-05, 06:49 PM
looks like a fun car.
xioix
05-13-05, 07:13 PM
The Corolla T-Sport. We had a poor attempt at a high powered Corolla w/the XRS model. Sure it's great, but it's a little too late for it's time in my opinon.
a new corolla gt-s would change peoples minds real fast if it came back like it was first introduced
rheiy
05-13-05, 07:43 PM
That would be the perfect car to compete with Honda's new civic si
O. L. T.
05-13-05, 10:25 PM
Personally i'd love to be around the water tower at lunchtime and hear" I raced the corolla again, got beat badly." :D:D
AJL0365
05-13-05, 10:35 PM
did the corolla used to come in a V6 engine? i seen some previous generations staying LE V6 something like that, if so, why did they ditch the V6, and go with the I-4. could have kept the V6 as an option
flipside909
05-13-05, 10:55 PM
did the corolla used to come in a V6 engine? i seen some previous generations staying LE V6 something like that, if so, why did they ditch the V6, and go with the I-4. could have kept the V6 as an option
Corolla never came in a V6 version. The largest displacement the Corolla has ever had to date is 1.8L, in the US at least.
biker
05-14-05, 02:27 AM
For some reason the US versions of most Japanese economy and mid sized sedans are usually the bland and boring versions compared to European models. The Corolla and Avensis are much better looking than the USDM Corolla and Camry. Same is true of Civic and Accord.
Of course Europeans like 5 door hatch models whereas in the US they don't sell. It will be interesting to see if Toyota uses the current style Yaris as the Echo replacement.
Richie
05-14-05, 10:53 AM
It's a FWD, the car has a lot of TTE parts on it.
TTE develloped the car.
mmarshall
05-14-05, 12:08 PM
For some reason the US versions of most Japanese economy and mid sized sedans are usually the bland and boring versions compared to European models. .
The answer to this can generally be wrapped up in one word:
Emissions.
And.....Europe and Japan usually get the hatchback and wagon models that we don't simply because they sell better overseas. Look at the VW Jetta/Golf....perfect example. Ten Jettas, on the average, go out the door here for every Golf. Americans in general don't like hatchbacks....but there are some signs that that may be changing.
Koma
05-14-05, 12:14 PM
The answer to this can generally be wrapped up in one word:
Emissions.
And.....Europe and Japan usually get the hatchback and wagon models that we don't simply because they sell better overseas. Look at the VW Jetta/Golf....perfect example. Ten Jettas, on the average, go out the door here for every Golf. Americans in general don't like hatchbacks....but there are some signs that that may be changing.
I heart hatchbacks!
Is there a difference between liftbacks and hatchbacks?
Cause the ones I like are like, Supras, Celicas, Corvettes, tC.
I'm not a huge fan of the ones that have doors like minivans. Civic, Matrix.
mmarshall
05-14-05, 12:43 PM
I heart hatchbacks!
Is there a difference between liftbacks and hatchbacks?
Cause the ones I like are like, Supras, Celicas, Corvettes, tC.
I'm not a huge fan of the ones that have doors like minivans. Civic, Matrix.
Yes, sports-car-type hatchbacks do very well here, but the ones I were referring to are the ones you mention that open like minivans. The 225 HP Corolla that is the subject of this thread is in the latter group....squarebacks that open like minivans.
Now....having said that, IMO there is no practical reason WHY squarebacks should not well here....it is an extremely practical design, with good space efficiency.....but Americans, for whatever reason, have often associated low-priced hatchbacks with cheapness. As I said previously, though, there are some signs of that starting to change.
xioix
05-14-05, 01:15 PM
Yes, sports-car-type hatchbacks do very well here, but the ones I were referring to are the ones you mention that open like minivans. The 225 HP Corolla that is the subject of this thread is in the latter group....squarebacks that open like minivans.
Now....having said that, IMO there is no practical reason WHY squarebacks should not well here....it is an extremely practical design, with good space efficiency.....but Americans, for whatever reason, have often associated low-priced hatchbacks with cheapness. As I said previously, though, there are some signs of that starting to change.
the xB is selling quite well
mmarshall
05-14-05, 01:33 PM
the xB is selling quite well
Yes..as I said, there are some signs that hatchbacks are starting to sell again....That is one of them.
And...interesting......I consider the xB the ugliest hatchback of all....the Pontiac Aztek has an ugly grille and front end but the XB, IMO, is ugly all over. The xB's shoe-box styling, though, does wonders for space efficiency.
xioix
05-14-05, 03:41 PM
Yes..as I said, there are some signs that hatchbacks are starting to sell again....That is one of them.
And...interesting......I consider the xB the ugliest hatchback of all....the Pontiac Aztek has an ugly grille and front end but the XB, IMO, is ugly all over. The xB's shoe-box styling, though, does wonders for space efficiency.
i really would have thought that the xA would out sell the xB becasue of styling, but poeple just love the box look
Koma
05-14-05, 07:26 PM
i really would have thought that the xA would out sell the xB becasue of styling, but poeple just love the box look
I know the older crowd buy them because they are cheap and reliable. I see more older people buying them instead of the younger crowd.
xioix
05-14-05, 08:37 PM
I know the older crowd buy them because they are cheap and reliable. I see more older people buying them instead of the younger crowd.
ive seen moslty young people, i guess it depends whre you live
biker
05-15-05, 03:33 AM
The answer to this can generally be wrapped up in one word:
Emissions.
And.....Europe and Japan usually get the hatchback and wagon models that we don't simply because they sell better overseas. Look at the VW Jetta/Golf....perfect example. Ten Jettas, on the average, go out the door here for every Golf. Americans in general don't like hatchbacks....but there are some signs that that may be changing.
What does emissions have to do with the shape of the sheet metal?
And European emission standards are about on par with US ones.
Hatchbacks, wagons will make a come back, although it will will be many years until Americans are weaned off SUVs.
chuckb
05-15-05, 11:01 AM
Personally i'd love to be around the water tower at lunchtime and hear" I raced the corolla again, got beat badly." :D:D
I sure would hate to get beat by a CRAPOLA :rolleyes:
mmarshall
05-15-05, 03:03 PM
What does emissions have to do with the shape of the sheet metal?
And European emission standards are about on par with US ones.
Hatchbacks, wagons will make a come back, although it will will be many years until Americans are weaned off SUVs.
Correct...emissions don't determine body styles, but I was responding to your question of why Europeans get " exciting " models that we don't. By " exciting " I assumed you meant different and more powerful engines, like the Civic Type R, Audi S3, etc..... vehicles that are sold only in Europe or Japan and not offered here in the U.S. A large part of the answer is emissions. It costs money to certify an engine here to EPA standards, and a manufacturer is usually not going to do it if the real (or perceived) market for that particular engine is not here. You state that European emission standards are about on a par as those here. Not really. With the exception of their cleaner diesel fuel, we have been far ahead of them, especially in California, though it is true that they are catching up.
Sometimes, though, a manufacturer will change their mind and go ahead and spend the money to do it here......as with the Mitsubishi Evo and the Subaru WRX and STi.
I assume you were also referring to more "exciting" suspensions in Europe. Again, emissions have nothing to do with that, but in general roads are smoother there, and this allows the use of firmer tires and suspension components and a lower stance. One could argue that some roads in the U.S. would allow that, but obviously it would be impractical for a manufacturer to design two different U.S. models....one for the Sun Belt with its glass-smooth roads and another one for the Snow Belt with roads that look (and feel) like the surface of the moon.
They also have to take into account that many buyers are going to "slam" or "tune" the car anyway and put on their own springs and wheels.