In all honesty, I would LOVE to row the gears in a GS 430. Sign me up for that. :) I know there are way more desirable cars out there but, that is my choice.

And the M3 CSL and the CLK DTM. Both only available with SMG/auto.

acura 3.2 tl type s.. it comes manual in japan.. but if they would give it here, that would be great.

GS400/430... 100% without a doubt...


Oh and maybe the SL/CL/S 65 AMG :thumbup:

I'm generally not a fan of manual trannies, especially in urban, congested areas, but if I had to pick only ONE car that does not offer one and REALLY needs one, it would not be the GS430 but the new upcoming IS350. It is ludicrous, IMO, even though the new IS250 WILL have a manual, for Lexus to advertise the new IS350 as a 3-series fighter and then make the SAME mistake with the new 350 that it made 4-5 years ago with the 2001 IS300....and the same mistake that Infiniti made with the G35 when it was introduced...the lack of a manual.

( flipside/ Ryan: .....if you're on the channel here.....you have ins with Lexus marketing. Why did they decide to make the same omission here they did in 2001? Didn't they learn their lesson back then? )

I'm going to have to cheat a little here, Mike....sorry.
There is ONE more car that REALLY needs a manual badly and doesn't have one.....the Lincoln LS. This car was introduced in 1999, and at the time was one of the best American-designed sedans on the road. It, too, was introduced, like a lot of sport sedans, as a BMW-fighter, but at first confined the manual transmission ONLY to the V6 with Sport package....NOT the V8.
Lincoln not only ignored the criticism for this by NOT adding the manual transmission to the V8 like it should have, but then made an even worse decision by DROPPING it altogether from the V6 as well.....only automatics are sold now.
As a result , BMW....even with the lousy Chris Bangle cars.......is clobbering it in the marketplace.

I don't think anything would beat shifting a 6 speed twin turbo V12 while driving the SL65. The GS would be fun, as would an RS6, but the SL65 gets my vote.

James

I'm going to have to cheat a little here, Mike....sorry.
There is ONE more car that REALLY needs a manual badly and doesn't have one.....the Lincoln LS. This car was introduced in 1999, and at the time was one of the best American-designed sedans on the road. It, too, was introduced, like a lot of sport sedans, as a BMW-fighter, but at first confined the manual transmission ONLY to the V6 with Sport package....NOT the V8.
Lincoln not only ignored the criticism for this by NOT adding the manual transmission to the V8 like it should have, but then made an even worse decision by DROPPING it altogether from the V6 as well.....only automatics are sold now.
As a result , BMW....even with the lousy Chris Bangle cars.......is clobbering it in the marketplace.
I totally agree with you mmarshall. The LS, based off of the Mustang with the decent engine could really use a manual V8. They're really quite good looking in my opinion and have heard good things about the getrag transmission in the V6.

James

I don't think anything would beat shifting a 6 speed twin turbo V12 while driving the SL65. The GS would be fun, as would an RS6, but the SL65 gets my vote.

James

That engine has so much torque I think it would be difficult to design a smooth clutch for it.
The T/C and stability control would be constantly dialing back the power through the clutch or working the brakes...and the clutch would end up vibrating. Even with the electronics turned off, the BIG torque would probably cause other clutch problems as well. I don't think M-B owners shelling out 100K-plus for a car would put up with that.....they have to put up with enough other M-B problems.

acura 3.2 tl type s.. it comes manual in japan.. but if they would give it here, that would be great.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't the last year (or maybe even two) of the CL-S offer a manual option? :confused:

That engine has so much torque I think it would be difficult to design a smooth clutch for it.
The T/C and stability control would be constantly dialing back the power through the clutch or working the brakes...and the clutch would end up vibrating. I don't think M-B owners shelling out 100K-plus for a car would put up with that.....they have to put up with enough other M-B problems.

Yeah this is true, and with 738 lb-ft in front of that clutch it would probably be far too stiff for a luxury car, but man would that be fun just to take it to a track for a day and feel that launch!

James

OK OK OK I THINK I GOTTA WINNER....



.... SLR! HOW NASTY! 50/50 weight distrubition, supercharged 5.5 V8. Side port exhaust, variable spoiler, gull wing doors... Oh man that car would be sexcellent if it had a 6 speed manny.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't the last year (or maybe even two) of the CL-S offer a manual option? :confused:
Absolutely, I had one ;)

My choice right now would be the IS350 too, & hopefully they would make a coupe version.

GS400/430 with a 6 speed ...PERIOD !

Thre would be no more BMWhat or Mercewho comparisons. I like them all,but I would love that car.

i'm voting along with the guys who said the GS. as long as i've been a lexus fan, i've been disappointed in the lack of manual options, especially in the GS. i'd hit that in a heartbeat. :agreed:

AMG anything

AMG anything
OK :D http://chansgroup.tripod.com/w168/amg/amg003.jpg

Another vote here for the GS4xx's, but another glaring omission from a lot of cars that should have them is an LSD. I would love a VIP'd GS with a 6 spd and limited slip.

Toyota Sienna

Toyota Sienna

LMFAO.......That's rich.

Manual on GS460 sounds good to me too, but try to convince Lexus to offer a sports package first before even thinking about a manual . . .

SLK55 AMG or SLR McLaren

How 'bout a manual SC430?

Mercedes CLK cars and AMG cars.

My SC400!!!!!!

So many of the other cars, AMG's, etc, would be an incredible experience with manuals, but having never driven them, even with autos, I have no comparison. I'm also a big fan of American Muscle Cars, and have owned a few. But most of those were available with manuals, or manuals coudl be dropped in easily.

So, for me, it's my SC400.

Lexus is making a giant mistake by not offering a manual with the IS350. It just screams "we're not serious." A BMW 330 with stick is a load of fun. With an auto? :boring:

My GS400 with the lowered gearing and TC feels more like a muscle car so I'm ok with it being an auto. Maybe the GS300 though should be offered with stick - it would probably feel a lot more responsive.

i agree with u guys that the IS350 totally needs a manual... or even a DSG/SMG thingie.... to be taken seriously as as "sport sedan".... i just think the AMG's need one even more.

I'll take the 6sp manual in my GS430 Please :)

and yes IS350 for sure

AMG anything

I'm all with this...

id like a manny in my first gen LS

def a GS..now i have a question i think i know the answer but i could be wrong..so this friend of mine at work had an STI and it got stolen so he said he wants to get a gs300 like mine and said he wants it in stick and i said they dont make it in stick and he said the salesman at the dealership said they had one..now im like 99.9% sure they dont make it in manual and i was gonna ask here..so have they ever made the GS in manual ever? i know that people can do conversions but im talkin bout coming from the factory has it ever been done? thank you

IS350 should get a manual or at least a fast SMG type box.

OK :D http://chansgroup.tripod.com/w168/amg/amg003.jpg

A little off-topic, Mike, but M-B had better prepare this car GOOD if they are going to do a high-performance AMG version of it. Several years ago, when the A-class was introduced in Europe, it had such a bad case of the tipsies ( because of the high, narrow, body) that M-B had to suspend sales while they worked on steering, chassis, suspension, and tire fixes........Richie will probably remember that.
Now...trying to make it into a sports car with even MORE high-G-cornering may bring back some of those problems...let's hope not.

def a GS..now i have a question i think i know the answer but i could be wrong..so this friend of mine at work had an STI and it got stolen so he said he wants to get a gs300 like mine and said he wants it in stick and i said they dont make it in stick and he said the salesman at the dealership said they had one..now im like 99.9% sure they dont make it in manual and i was gonna ask here..so have they ever made the GS in manual ever? i know that people can do conversions but im talkin bout coming from the factory has it ever been done? thank you

No. Never came in a manual. I believe the 1996 came with a 5 speed AUTO, so maybe the dealer said 5 speed transmission and he got confused. Only Lexi to come with manuals have been the SC300 and the IS300.

James

No. Never came in a manual. I believe the 1996 came with a 5 speed AUTO, so maybe the dealer said 5 speed transmission and he got confused. Only Lexi to come with manuals have been the SC300 and the IS300.

James
1Sick drives an ES300 with a manual transmission ;)

The 1992-1996 ES300 were available with a manual transmission, they're rare though :http://www.vmrintl.com/Usedcars/Car%20%20Reviews/lexus_es300_92-9.htm

A little off-topic, Mike, but M-B had better prepare this car GOOD if they are going to do a high-performance AMG version of it. Several years ago, when the A-class was introduced in Europe, it had such a bad case of the tipsies ( because of the high, narrow, body) that M-B had to suspend sales while they worked on steering, chassis, suspension, and tire fixes........Richie will probably remember that.
Now...trying to make it into a sports car with even MORE high-G-cornering may bring back some of those problems...let's hope not.

I remember it all too well.
After they fixed it (kind of) they did make 2 AMG models for the A class, An A190 AMG and the twin engined A210 AMG if I remember correctly. The last one was an extremely limited edition.

Crossfire SRT

1Sick drives an ES300 with a manual transmission ;)

The 1992-1996 ES300 were available with a manual transmission, they're rare though :[]

Yes.....thanks, Amethy.....I had all but forgotten about those limited production sticks. They are indeed rare......I myself have never seen one (or have just forgotten) , and if Mike does in fact have one, he's the only person I know who does.

1Sick drives an ES300 with a manual transmission ;)

The 1992-1996 ES300 were available with a manual transmission, they're rare though :http://www.vmrintl.com/Usedcars/Car%20%20Reviews/lexus_es300_92-9.htm

DAMMIT, I hate when I blow it like that. I knew that too. God, thanks for making me look stupid :rolleyes: :D :p . The only one I've seen was when I worked at the Lexus dealership.

James

A car I'd love to see as a manual would be a twin supercharged SC430, but that's just me hahah

IS350. Make the 0-60 times of 5.1 drop into the 4 second M3 range. :D

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't the last year (or maybe even two) of the CL-S offer a manual option? :confused:

the CL was, but the 3.2 TL Type-S never was here.

the CL was, but the 3.2 TL Type-S never was here.
It was fast as hell too, I drove a 6 speed CL-S. Torque steer like mad but a very swift car.

What about a Subaru SVX I always thought they were cool, never bought one because they were AUTO

Vanquish S
760il
Range Rover Sport Supercharged
All USA AMG models
GS430
LS430
SC430
IS350
Cayenne Turbo(500 hp..... yummm)




My top choice would be a Bentley Continental GT. That car is way to sweet. No matter how wierd it is to have a manual Bentley, I would enjoy every second of it.