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Old Nov 5, 2005 | 02:10 PM
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Just when u thought you couldn't a cheaper luxury badged car, Acura does it again! Instead of calling it the Acura EL, its now the Acura "we have no method the naming of our cars" CSX.
If the 200hp 166lbs of torque TSX is just TOO MUCH for you, you get 155hp and 139lbs torque in this luxury car

YOU CANADIANS GET ALL THE COOL CARS!!!!
2006 ACURA CSX

Touring - Key Standard Features:

• Engine: 2.0L DOHC i-VTEC
• Horsepower 155 @ 6000*
• Torque 139 @ 4500*
• Transmission: 5-speed Manual
• Electronic Brake Distribution (EBD)
• Electronic power Steering (EPS)
• Temporary Spare Tire
• Tire: Goodyear Eagle RS-A - 205/55 R16 M+S
• Wheel: 16×6 1/2J Alloy
• Active Front Head Restraints
• Anti-Lock Braking System (ABS)
• Driver & Passenger Front Airbags
• Side Airbags
• Side Curtain Airbags
• High Strength Door Beam
• Front Seatbelt Adjustable Shoulder Anchor (Hidden)
• Front Seatbelt Buckle Pre-Tensioner
• Front Seatbelt Passenger: ALR/ELR
• Rear Seatbelt: ALR/ELR/ISOFIX
• Security Alarm System w/ Answerback
• Immobilizer System
• Halogen Headlights
• Daytime Running Lights
• Body Coloured Retractable Door Mirrors w/ Turn Signals
• Body Coloured Exterior Door Handle with Chrome Insert
• Body Coloured Side Protector
• Dual Expi Exhaust/Tailpipe Finisher
• Front Mudguard
• Front and Rear Strake
• Glass Antenna
• Rear Brake Light High-Mount
• Trunk Inside Handle
• Trunk Lid Lining
• Ambient Lighting: Blue
• Bi-Level Analog Digital Meter
• Meter Illumination Colour: Blue & White
• Electro-Luminescent Submeter
• Interior Illumination Colour: Blue
• Centre Console Lid
• Three Spoke, Leather Wrapped Tilt & Telescopic Steering Wheel w/ Illuminated Audio & Cruise Controls
• Seatback Pocket: Passenger
• Outside Temperature Display
• Power Window Switch Illumination
• Rear Door Pocket
• Rear Heater Ducts
• Seatbelt Reminder (Driver & Passenger): Audible
• Steering Wheel Lock Illumination
• Tachometer w/Metallic Trim Ring
• Trunk Room Light
• 2 Key System
• Accessory Socket: 2
• AM/FM CD High-Power Audio
• Anti-Theft Audio
• Automatic Air Conditioning with Defrost Link & Fresh Air
• Automatic Door Lock
• Centre Console with Armrest
• Cruise Control
• Defrost Link with Air Conditioning & Fresh Air
• Door Lock Remote Switch: Driver & Passenger Side
• Driver and Passenger Vanity Mirror
• Driver's Seat Manual Height Adjustment
• Floor Mats
• Front Cupholder
• Front Intermittent Variable Wipers
• Front Speakers (2), Rear Speakers (2), Tweeters (2)
• Heated Door Mirrors
• Keyless Entry with Trunk Opener
• Maintenance Minder
• Micron Air Filter
• MP3/WMA Compatible Audio
• Power Mirrors, Door Locks and Safety Windows w/ Automatic Up/Down
• Rear Armrest
• Rear Cupholders
• Rear Defrost Timer
• Speed-sensitive Volume Control
• Tool (Half Set)
• Wave Key
• Rear Headrests (3)
• Rear Seat Fold Down (60/40)
• Cloth Seating Material
• Safety for Everyone

Model Codes

FD5556E 5MT
FD5656E 5AT

Colour and Trim

Exterior - Interior
Alabaster Silver Metallic - Black Fabric
Nighthawk Black Pearl - Black Fabric
Galaxy Grey Metallic - Black Fabric
Royal Blue Pearl - Black/ Parchment Fabric
Neutron Blue Metallic - Black Fabric
Habanero Red Pearl - Black Fabric

2006 ACURA CSX

Premium - Key Standard Features:
(Additions or Upgrades To Touring Model)

• High Intensity Discharge (HID) Headlights
• 6CD In-dash Changer
• Heated Seats
• Sunroof with Privacy Glass & Auto-open
• Leather Seating Material

Model Codes

FD5576JN 5MT
FD5676JN 5AT
FD5576KN 5MT (w/NAVI)
FD5676KN 5AT (w/NAVI)

Colour and Trim

Exterior - Interior
Alabaster Silver Metallic -Black Leather
Nighthawk Black Pearl -Black Leather
Galaxy Grey Metallic - Black Leather
Royal Blue Pearl - Black/ Parchment Leather
Neutron Blue Metallic - Black Leather
Habanero Red Pearl - Black Leather

Key Available Options:

• 5 Speed Automatic Transmission w/ Paddle Shift feature
• 17x7 J Alloy wheels w/ 215/45/R17 V Tires
• Front Fog Lights
• Auxiliary Audio Input Connection
• Acura Navigation System with Bilingual Voice Recognition and steering wheel controls (available on Premium trim)

Acura CSX Interior Measurements

... CSX Touring - CSX Premium
Seating Capacity ... 5 - 5
Passenger Volume (L) ... 2574 - 2503
Trunk/Cargo Volume (L) ... 340 - 340
Leg Room (mm) Fr/Rr ... 1072 / 878 - 1072 / 878
Hip Room (mm) Fr/Rr ... 1317 /1296 - 1317 / 1296
Shoulder Room (mm) Fr/ Rr ... 1361 / 1332 - 1361 / 1332
Head Room (mm) Fr/Rr ... 1001 / 951 -967 / 951
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Old Nov 5, 2005 | 02:32 PM
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Not bad. The tail lights are too Passat though.
Front is a nice cross between the new Civic and RSX. So does that mean they're going to have a Coupe,Hybrid and Si version? CSX-S(i)? CSX-h?
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Old Nov 5, 2005 | 02:37 PM
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Not bad. The tail lights are too Passat though.
Front is a nice cross between the new Civic and RSX. So does that mean they're going to have a Coupe,Hybrid and Si version? CSX-S(i)? CSX-h?
Its a Civic with Acura badges
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Old Nov 5, 2005 | 02:41 PM
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I know I was just saying though that the front and rears have slight differences.
I was just saying since the Civic comes in coupe,sedan, hybrid and Si types will the CSX?
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Old Nov 5, 2005 | 03:04 PM
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This is exactly what the Japanese Civic looks like. As you can see there are minor differences front and rear with our version(US version). The Acura CSX is just bagde engineering of the Japanese version.

With that said, its crap, and they should be ashamed of themselves doing this once again. So they have 2 cars that are basically the same size. TSX and CSX. Not a good look.
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Old Nov 5, 2005 | 04:03 PM
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whats the price difference in price btw the 2 models?
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Old Nov 5, 2005 | 04:13 PM
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I dont like the new civic at all. IMHO, the 5th and 6th gens were the best looking civics ever, and 94+ integra. The 01+ civic and the 06 are fugly. RSX isnt bad, but integra is still better.
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Old Nov 5, 2005 | 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted by magneto112
This is exactly what the Japanese Civic looks like. As you can see there are minor differences front and rear with our version(US version). The Acura CSX is just bagde engineering of the Japanese version.

With that said, its crap, and they should be ashamed of themselves doing this once again. So they have 2 cars that are basically the same size. TSX and CSX. Not a good look.
TSX is actually quite a bit bigger, in fact TSX is the Euro Accord.
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Old Nov 5, 2005 | 04:32 PM
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I dont like the new civic at all. IMHO, the 5th and 6th gens were the best looking civics ever, and 94+ integra. The 01+ civic and the 06 are fugly. RSX isnt bad, but integra is still better.
I am with u there. I considered both5th and 6th gens when I was younger, they looked good, great build quality and tons of parts. THe last 2 versions I can't touch with a stick.
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Old Nov 5, 2005 | 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Och
TSX is actually quite a bit bigger, in fact TSX is the Euro Accord.
Length

TSX - 183.3
Civic - 176.7

Wheelbase

TSX - 105.1
Civic - 106.3

Height

TSX - 57.3
Civic - 56.5

Width

TSX - 69.4
Civic - 69.0

Interior Volume

TSX - 91.0 cubic ft.
Civic - 90.9 cubic ft.



The only big difference is the lenght(around 6in longer on the TSX). The rest of the dimensions are on top of eachother. yes the TSX is the Euro Accord built on a different platform, but size wise, they are to close for comfort.

Driving both though will more than likely show many differences. But I still donbt think there is a significant difference in that either.

Now all we need to know is how much this model cost compared to the TSX(Canadian prices obviously).

Look at what Lexus did with the IS and ES. Major difference not only in size, but driving dynamics as well.
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Old Nov 5, 2005 | 04:36 PM
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The current EL is a rebadged Civic with leather and heated seats.

However, IT SELLS like crazy! The CSX will probably sell like crazy as well! Kudos to Honda!
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Old Nov 5, 2005 | 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by magneto112
Length

TSX - 183.3
Civic - 176.7

Wheelbase

TSX - 105.1
Civic - 106.3

Height

TSX - 57.3
Civic - 56.5

Width

TSX - 69.4
Civic - 69.0

Interior Volume

TSX - 91.0 cubic ft.
Civic - 90.9 cubic ft.



The only big difference is the lenght(around 6in longer on the TSX). The rest of the dimensions are on top of eachother. yes the TSX is the Euro Accord built on a different platform, but size wise, they are to close for comfort.

Driving both though will more than likely show many differences. But I still donbt think there is a significant difference in that either.

Now all we need to know is how much this model cost compared to the TSX(Canadian prices obviously).

Look at what Lexus did with the IS and ES. Major difference not only in size, but driving dynamics as well.
Well, civic and TSX are still quite a bit different, for isntance civic is almost 10K cheaper. I didn't drive the new civic, but I have a 95 civic beater car. What can I say, it's a civic.

But I did drive 2005 TSX, and it's a POS. It's about as hard on the road as the IS300, but it doesn't have IS300's handling and RWD, and on top of everything it's hella slow. The only good thing going for it's is that its very sexy, and the interior with wood trim is gorgeous.

The CSX is pretty much a replacement for the old 4 door integra I would guess, since the TSX doesn't fall into the same price category.
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Well, civic and TSX are still quite a bit different, for isntance civic is almost 10K cheaper. I didn't drive the new civic, but I have a 95 civic beater car. What can I say, it's a civic.

But I did drive 2005 TSX, and it's a POS. It's about as hard on the road as the IS300, but it doesn't have IS300's handling and RWD, and on top of everything it's hella slow. The only good thing going for it's is that its very sexy, and the interior with wood trim is gorgeous.
Funny, I drove the snot outta one last night and will have a written review probably tomorrow (TSX)
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Funny, I drove the snot outta one last night and will have a written review probably tomorrow (TSX)
I drove one when I was shopping for a new car (ended up with gs430), and it seemed slow even compared to my old 94 GS300.
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Originally Posted by Och
TSX is actually quite a bit bigger, in fact TSX is the Euro Accord.
Och is correct...the American TSX is basically the rest of the world's Accord.

But the rest of this thread........I'm not sure I follow you guys here. Is this obviously re-badged Civic ( Acura CSX ) going to REPLACE the American TSX, be sold here here in America WITH the TSX, or not be sold here AT ALL.....only in foreign markets?...or none of the above?

From the thread, I can't quite make out just what the intended market of this car is.

I DO agree that 139 ft-lbs. of torque at a high 4500 RPM......typical for a Honda-designed VTEC four....is not worthy of an Acura nameplate, at least here in the U.S.
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