YEAH BOY!!!!

31 - 6 at half time. Reggie Bush is killing them!!! Matt Leinart is having an off day, but he has a whole half to make it up :thumbup:

PS: Texas is crazy....

UT beat Colorado like a rented mule 70 - 3, setting up a great match-up in the Rose Bowl!

66-13 with 2:30 minutes to go. USC can still score more the UT :cool:

just wait for the rose bowl UT will dominate

UCLA sucks A$$! I can't believe this game turn out the way it did. I WOULD HOPE that UCLA would cover the spread for the 2nd...but NO!!!!!

DAMN IT!!! there goes some more $ :cry:

What do you guys think?

USC has shown that their defense is penetrable. Texas, if any team, certainly has the fire power to do so. USC on the other hand, has the same firepower to take against the UT defense.

As of now, the Trojans are a 6 point favorite in this game, and as a betting man, I am betting that the spread will not be covered. I think UT will pull it out and be national champions this year.

If Texas plays anywhere near their potential, I think they will win.

I THINK Texas will pull if off, but I could very much be wrong here. I'm a SEC guy personally and I don't really think that the Big12 ever really had much in the first place. Texas has only played 2 ranked teams and barely won one of them.

USC has played some damn good teams and is tough to beat. Texas has pretty much dominated everyone they've played, but every one of them has pretty much been crappy teams in the first place.

I don't know if Texas would have the same season if they had to play Georgia, Alabama, UF, FSU, UCLA, LSU, or Virgina Tech.

Who has Texas played? Ohio State in the beginning of the year. Wow. Good win and all but that's like Florida St.'s win over Miami in the beginning of the year. Null and Void.

I don't like either of these teams personally but if I was a betting man, make it a three-peat for USC. The game is practically in their back yard and no one has been able to stop Bush yet. Leinart has an off day and they still beat UCLA 66-14? Yeah, exactly. :)

USC in a shoot out.

-Anthony

Hook em horns!! :D :D

College football has gained in "professionalism" what it may have lost in "spirit". Im not sure that's such a good thing. Most college players are now gunning for a pro career with an astronomical salary, rather than getting a marketable degree. I guess much the same can be said for all college sports. Kinda sad to see the big $ taking over for the real excitement of "amateur" sport.

The BCS needs overhaul, but it's been a noble effort. TV (Bowl) contracts bring millions to individual schools (and some $ to the NCAA), changing the nature of the college game. After Texas won the National Championship in 1963 (beating QB Roger Staubach's Navy team in the Cotton Bowl), the NCAA began to carve up the bowl bucks, seeking to distribute the big schools share of the winnings evenly amng smaller schools with less elaborate football programs.

The big football powers rebelled, threatening in an ad hoc meeting of the head coaches and AD's to form a Super Conference consisting of two roughly geographical divisions. Imagine a conference consisting of Miami, Alabama, Georgia, Ole Miss, 'Bama, Tennessee, Nebraska, Michigan, Ohio State, Oklahoma, Texas, USC, UCLA, and Washington, among others. These were the regular top 15 to 20 teams year after year. The thought was to break away from the NCAA and form their own conference - effectively killing TV contracts for all other schools, creating a media monopoly.

Some said it was never a serious idea, but it DID achieve its purpose - it backed the NCAA down from its "share and share alike" split of TV revenues. :uh:

SC by at least 10-

Nobody can stop 5, 21,11, etc.

Doug

College football has gained in "professionalism" what it may have lost in "spirit". Im not sure that's such a good thing. Most college players are now gunning for a pro career with an astronomical salary, rather than getting a marketable degree. I guess much the same can be said for all college sports. Kinda sad to see the big $ taking over for the real excitement of "amateur" sport.

The BCS needs overhaul, but it's been a noble effort. TV (Bowl) contracts bring millions to individual schools (and some $ to the NCAA), changing the nature of the college game. After Texas won the National Championship in 1963 (beating QB Roger Staubach's Navy team in the Cotton Bowl), the NCAA began to carve up the bowl bucks, seeking to distribute the big schools share of the winnings evenly amng smaller schools with less elaborate football programs.

The big football powers rebelled, threatening in an ad hoc meeting of the head coaches and AD's to form a Super Conference consisting of two roughly geographical divisions. Imagine a conference consisting of Miami, Alabama, Georgia, Ole Miss, 'Bama, Tennessee, Nebraska, Michigan, Ohio State, Oklahoma, Texas, USC, UCLA, and Washington, among others. These were the regular top 15 to 20 teams year after year. The thought was to break away from the NCAA and form their own conference - effectively killing TV contracts for all other schools, creating a media monopoly.

Some said it was never a serious idea, but it DID achieve its purpose - it backed the NCAA down from its "share and share alike" split of TV revenues. :uh:

Nice write-up...... but who do you think is going to win? :D

USC for the win

Texas by 6

Go Longhorns. :thumbup:

I'm a VA native but lived in Austin for a year or so. I still clearly remember UT Coach Darrell Royal, QB Bill Bradley, and RB Chris Gilbert from the old Longhorns.

Should be an outstanding game and I'm looking forward to this one. I think USC will win.

USC :woohoo:

USC by 50 :D (just ask the Sooners and the rest of those high school teams in the big 12)

Longhorns...it's what's for Dinner! Fight On!

lol...it will be a good game with USC coming out on top :thumbup:

NEVER bet against the Trojans...

The big 12 championship game was a complete joke...explain to me why they even have it (except for more revenue)? Colorado has been outscored 130-22 in it's last three loses...next loss - Clemson in the Champs Sports Bowl.

Texas has yet to play any team of value this year besides a confused OSU...the Ohio State game was a joke as well because OSU couldn't figure out what to do on offense and who should be their QB. If Smith was at the helm for all four quarters USC would be playing Penn State for the MNC.

USC has shown that their defense is penetrable. Texas, if any team, certainly has the fire power to do so. USC on the other hand, has the same firepower to take against the UT defense.

As of now, the Trojans are a 6 point favorite in this game, and as a betting man, I am betting that the spread will not be covered. I think UT will pull it out and be national champions this year.


Well said and agreed 100%! I hope the spread continues to be as such... So I can make some chips off this Historical College Game. :woohoo:

SC by at least 10-

Nobody can stop 5, 21,11, etc.

Doug
+1 just too many weapons and you know what will happens when vince tries to do it all by himself plus usc has been there done that

USC = One of my top schools I want to post-at.

California >>>>>>>>>>> Texas

actually

So Cal >>>>>>>> Texas

Matt Leinart + Reggie Bush >>>>>>>> Vince Young

:D

- Nizhu

California >>>>>>>>>>> Texas


LOL, right on. Coming from a Southern Cali family and growing up as a California kid I have alot of fun with my wife and her Texas family. Even though I'm a UW Husky I still jump on the USC / Pac 10 bandwagon when it comes to the in-laws ;)

And as Gunnery Sergeant Hartman put it so well "Texas? Only steers and queers come from Texas, Private Cowboy"

Who has Texas played? Ohio State in the beginning of the year. Wow. Good win and all but that's like Florida St.'s win over Miami in the beginning of the year. Null and Void.

Anthony that is absolutely not true. FSU lost 3 games, some to pathetic opponents. Ohio State's 2 losses came against teams currently ranked ahead of them. #2 Texas in the opener, I think the score was 24-22 and then to #3 Penn State in Happy Valley (16-7). To equate this with what FSU has done this year does not bode well for your football insight.

I beleive the highest ranked team that USC beat was Notre Dame, who is much more suspect than Ohio State. And the win was lucky at that, Leinart's fumble goes 2 yards upfield they lose. And I wouldn't count UCLA as much of a challenge, watch them drop like a rock in the polls after not even showing up last Sat..

Final :

Texas 38 USC 28

USC should of lost to Notre Dame in my book. It was a botched win.

Texas will win the National Championship but it will be a great game to watch.. USC has had their turn..now it's Texas's

Final Score...

Texas 28 USC 24

I THINK Texas will pull if off, but I could very much be wrong here. I'm a SEC guy personally and I don't really think that the Big12 ever really had much in the first place. Texas has only played 2 ranked teams and barely won one of them.

USC has played some damn good teams and is tough to beat. Texas has pretty much dominated everyone they've played, but every one of them has pretty much been crappy teams in the first place.

I don't know if Texas would have the same season if they had to play Georgia, Alabama, UF, FSU, UCLA, LSU, or Virgina Tech.

I like the SEC and I won't deny it's the toughest division but...

The teams you listed at the end - this year, in this season, are nowhere near the caliber of USC OR Texas. The only ones close are LSU. GA, and ALA ...LSU lost to georgia so they aren't too great and im being generous here because of the BCS. Georgia and Alabama. had a good year and they would be a good challenge for Texas but I'm sure Texas would put the hurt on them.

UF is ok this year, FSU SUCKS, UCLA LOL, VT = overrated cause of Marcus Vick..they lost to FSU haha.

So 3 of the teams you posted are worthy to play..the rest = neg

NEVER bet against the Trojans...

The big 12 championship game was a complete joke...explain to me why they even have it (except for more revenue)? Colorado has been outscored 130-22 in it's last three loses...next loss - Clemson in the Champs Sports Bowl.

Texas has yet to play any team of value this year besides a confused OSU...the Ohio State game was a joke as well because OSU couldn't figure out what to do on offense and who should be their QB. If Smith was at the helm for all four quarters USC would be playing Penn State for the MNC.


Texas beat Ohio State at an Away game no excuses there. They have the huge advantage as a home team, (PLUS A HUGE RIVALRY!) They lost fair and square. If you should question any victories you should probably do it for your beloved trojans and their botched win over Notre Dame - Even so, a W is a W so it does not matter. When Texas is the 2006 National Champions, Vince Young is the Heisman winner USC will be forgotten :D

...I beleive the highest ranked team that USC beat was Notre Dame, who is much more suspect than Ohio State. And the win was lucky at that, Leinart's fumble goes 2 yards upfield they lose. And I wouldn't count UCLA as much of a challenge, watch them drop like a rock in the polls after not even showing up last Sat...

LOL...OSU didn't even know who to play QB, not to mention offense at that point in the year...if Texas and OSU played today I would take OSU by a touchdown at least. Any top 15 ranked team would of beaten OSU at that point in the year.

USC beat (Current BCS):

#6 Notre Dame
#5 Oregon
#16 UCLA

and formerly ranked teams (at the time we played them):

#15 Arizona State
#23 California
#19 Fresno State

Who has Texas beat again? The teams from the big 12 are pathetic at best this year. That OSU win is the only thing Texas can hold onto and OSU wasn't even the same team they are today. Shoot A&M played Texas soundly...and who knows what would of happened if they stuck to the option when they got into the red zone?

Yes, USC could of lost...just like Texas could of lost, but they didn't. Every team that has played 'SC has played lights out only to be emotionally drained and lose the next week (unless you played a really bad team after our game). Keep thinking that Texas is everything you hope it to be...'SC has heard the same song over-and-over the last few years and we are still 34 and 0 and counting.

34 Consecutive wins, sixth-longest streak in NCAA Division I-A history.
27 Consecutive home wins, a Pacific 10 Conference record.
23 Consecutive conference wins, a Pac-10 record.
19 Consecutive conference home wins, a Pac-10 record.
16 Consecutive wins over AP top-25 teams, an NCAA record.

F/O (fight on!)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v633/JohnKRaymond/usc1.jpg

Texas beat Ohio State at an Away game no excuses their they have the huge advantage (PLUS A HUGE RIVALRY!) They lost fair and square. If you should question any victories you should probably do it for your beloved trojans and their botched win over Notre Dame - Even so, a W is a W so it does not matter. When Texas is the 2006 National Champions, Vince Young is the Heisman winner USC will be forgotten :D

lol...OSU couldn't tie their own shoes at that point in the season...Baylor could of beat them. Now that they have decided on a QB and actually try to get it to their "go to" guys they are winning. They are not the same team that Texas played.

USC played terrible against ND and ND got so may calls their way it was a joke...shoot if they wanted to win all they had to do was stop us on 4th & 9...but they couldn't and we won. End of story!

BUSH will win the Heisman and it won't even be close...oh and you should order your 2006 championship rings (big 12 that is) now...why wait till after you lose?

:D :thumbup:

USC has stomped that ass for 2 years I gotta go for the underdog. Surely you can understand this. Well maybe you can...you are from Cali right hehe

You generally can't take great football rivalries into account when evaluating a team's performance. Texas / Texas A&M has been an intense rivalry for over 100 years, combining equally-sized and matched schools and a powerful rivalry between student bodies. Like Auburn / 'Bama, Georgia / Georgia Tech, and USC / UCLA, these teams can be expected to play well over their heads when they meet on the gridiron. It's often said that if A&M loses every game on the schedule, but beats Texas at Thanksgiving, it's been a successful season. :)

Everyone has an opinion, so here's mine. Texas - 28...West Coast Ballroom Dancers - 10. I can here the USC-fawning West Coast media crying now!!! :cry: Hook'em Horns!

USC has stomped that ass for 2 years I gotta go for the underdog. Surely you can understand this. Well maybe you can...you are from Cali right hehe

Yep..I can understand that :thumbup:

I am biased since i played for 'SC

Everyone has an opinion, so here's mine. Texas - 28...West Coast Ballroom Dancers - 10. I can here the USC-fawning West Coast media crying now!!! :cry: Hook'em Horns!

Shouldn't you still be weeping about that Georgia a$$ whooping to have a coherent opinion about 'SC...lol.

Ballroom dancers...lol...that's a new one...have you seen ML's move's though... :eek2:

I highly doubt that *ANY* team will keep us at only 10 points for 4 quarters.

I want to see all you Texas lovers posting back in this thread after the championship game. I don't even think it will be close. USC is just going to stomp them like they've done almost everyone else the past 2 seasons. It's always funny to me how people seem to think a juggernaut is just all of a sudden going to fall because the stars and the heavens have lined up a certain way, that doesn't happen too often, and definitely not to a juggernaut like this current USC football team. This game will be boring unless you're into Reggie Bush highlights, USC will be killing them by the 2nd period.

Pete Carroll is the difference maker in this, he will scheme to stop Vince Young and Co. and it won't be pretty for Texas.

LOL...OSU didn't even know who to play QB, not to mention offense at that point in the year...if Texas and OSU played today I would take OSU by a touchdown at least. Any top 15 ranked team would of beaten OSU at that point in the year.

USC beat (Current BCS):

#6 Notre Dame
#5 Oregon
#16 UCLA

and formerly ranked teams (at the time we played them):

#15 Arizona State
#23 California
#19 Fresno State

Who has Texas beat again? The teams from the big 12 are pathetic at best this year. That OSU win is the only thing Texas can hold onto and OSU wasn't even the same team they are today. Shoot A&M played Texas soundly...and who knows what would of happened if they stuck to the option when they got into the red zone?

Yes, USC could of lost...just like Texas could of lost, but they didn't. Every team that has played 'SC has played lights out only to be emotionally drained and lose the next week (unless you played a really bad team after our game). Keep thinking that Texas is everything you hope it to be...'SC has heard the same song over-and-over the last few years and we are still 34 and 0 and counting.

34 Consecutive wins, sixth-longest streak in NCAA Division I-A history.
27 Consecutive home wins, a Pacific 10 Conference record.
23 Consecutive conference wins, a Pac-10 record.
19 Consecutive conference home wins, a Pac-10 record.
16 Consecutive wins over AP top-25 teams, an NCAA record.

F/O (fight on!)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v633/JohnKRaymond/usc1.jpg
thats a good pic

I think Texas will win only because I am willing them to win!

OK...just got tickets, see you guys at the RB on Jan 4th!

Fight On! :D

I want to see all you Texas lovers posting back in this thread after the championship game. I don't even think it will be close.

Goes both ways Mike. Where will those USC fans be when their winning streak is stopped on the 4th?

Don't get me wrong, USC is a great team with some excellent playmakers. But they have not been as impressive as in past years and as they say, all good things must come to an end. Why not Texas?

gotta go with the SO CAL team so the trojans take it..

Reggie Bush = 619 :thumbup:

...Where will those USC fans be when their winning streak is stopped on the 4th? Why not Texas?

Still at the coliseum saluting the men of troy while working on our next streak...I have already bought into C&G for 2006 and have season tickets...USC won't be going anyplace far from the top of college football.

Why not Texas? They are just too cocky a bunch to deserve what a win would give them...anyway, if our streak was going to end at least it's in the MNC game...while if Texa$$ doesn't lose now they will next year when tOSU visits Austin.

Unfortunately, spectacular games against mediocre pathetic-12 teams don't do much for me...if they can play with 'SC hat's off to them, but until then...the whorns suck!

10 bucks if 'SC wins all the whorns fans will be crying excuses left & right...while if 'SC loses they will simply state that they lost to the best team at the time.

It's tough to be a champion and continue to win...we are 45-1 since 2002...with our *only* loss in triple overtime. It will end, streaks always do...

OK...just got tickets, see you guys at the RB on Jan 4th!

nice :thumbup:

I'll be there as well...BBQ in Lot 7...Hole 11 or 12 on Brookside #1

btw even though I hate SC, I gotta root for the Pac 10

USC 45
UT 21

:woot:

I want to see all you Texas lovers posting back in this thread after the championship game. I don't even think it will be close. USC is just going to stomp them like they've done almost everyone else the past 2 seasons.



Dunno. While I'd like to see the Longhorns sock it to 'em, one thing I have learned over the years is never try to predict a football game in advance. I've won some bets and lost some bets....until I finally just said the hell with it and quit betting. I'm not going to predict a Texas victory any more than one for the Trojans.

I want to see all you Texas lovers posting back in this thread after the championship game. I don't even think it will be close. USC is just going to stomp them like they've done almost everyone else the past 2 seasons. It's always funny to me how people seem to think a juggernaut is just all of a sudden going to fall because the stars and the heavens have lined up a certain way, that doesn't happen too often, and definitely not to a juggernaut like this current USC football team. This game will be boring unless you're into Reggie Bush highlights, USC will be killing them by the 2nd period.

Pete Carroll is the difference maker in this, he will scheme to stop Vince Young and Co. and it won't be pretty for Texas.


LoL....
Every Southern California game for the last few seasons turns out with the same results, a "W".

And I seriously thought the Sooners would be a formidable adversary. This certainly wasn't the case after the first quarter of that game....LoL

And if it is one thing the Trojans are good at, it would be the preparation before a big "hyped-up" game. Then it would be followed by a dominating and exhilerating performance. Also, it doesn't hurt at all that this game will be played at the Coliseum.

I smell a 3-Peat, the first ever Dynasty in College Football :thumbup:

...I smell a 3-Peat, the first ever Dynasty in College Football :thumbup:

Fight On! :D

LoL....
Every Southern California game for the last few seasons turns out with the same results, a "W".

And I seriously thought the Sooners would be a formidable adversary. This certainly wasn't the case after the first quarter of that game....LoL

And if it is one thing the Trojans are good at, it would be the preparation before a big "hyped-up" game. Then it would be followed by a dominating and exhilerating performance. Also, it doesn't hurt at all that this game will be played at the Coliseum.

I smell a 3-Peat, the first ever Dynasty in College Football :thumbup:This is the game they've been waiting for all year, and it's right in our own backyard. Like KVA said, get ready to hear all kinds of Texas excuses after the game, lol.

Dunno. While I'd like to see the Longhorns sock it to 'em, one thing I have learned over the years is never try to predict a football game in advance. I've won some bets and lost some bets....until I finally just said the hell with it and quit betting. I'm not going to predict a Texas victory any more than one for the Trojans.Why do you want to see the horns "sock it to 'em?" What's it to ya? :p

I should stop betting too, but winning is so sweet!! :D

Goes both ways Mike. Where will those USC fans be when their winning streak is stopped on the 4th?

Don't get me wrong, USC is a great team with some excellent playmakers. But they have not been as impressive as in past years and as they say, all good things must come to an end. Why not Texas?The streak won't be stopped by Texas, that's for sure. USC has bided their time all season for this one game. There are no distractions, this is what they've prepared for ALL SEASON. They won't lose this game Ed.

USC should of lost to Notre Dame in my book. It was a botched win.

Texas will win the National Championship but it will be a great game to watch.. USC has had their turn..now it's Texas's

Final Score...

Texas 28 USC 24

Botched win? The ball clearly went out of bounds :egads:

USC is BPU+++ this won't even be a game. I love how USC goes for it on 4th down and 10 and gets it every time, and just with running plays, they just stick it to the other teams!

Reggie! Reggie! Reggie!

Now we have two heisman trophy winners in the backfield versus Texa$$!

Fight on!

Why do you want to see the horns "sock it to 'em?" What's it to ya? :p

.

Read my earlier posts...I lived in Austin, TX for a period some time ago and like many things about the city. I saw the Longhorns play in person more than once at the UT stadium.

Botched win? The ball clearly went out of bounds :egads:


Notre Dame palyed a great game, but they deserved to lose. You can't be giving up 64 yards on a 4th and 9, especially when you win the game if you stop them. Then, you can't STOP the qb on the 1 yard line with your initial hit, just to let him get a second effort for the TD simply by rolling to the side and falling into the end zone. USC did what they had to in that game to win, and ND defense just couldn't deliver on that 4th and 9.

And I don't know WHERE you guys come in saying that the 4th will be a blowout. Please, I would like to see what you have to say when this turns out to be a hell of a game :p

Duly noted Mike! I guess they will still need to play the game and anything can happen. Nothing is ever guaranteed in sports...NOTHING!

Mike, your on if I get the point spread..LOL!


Notre Dame palyed a great game, but they deserved to lose. You can't be giving up 64 yards on a 4th and 9, especially when you win the game if you stop them.

This was a very lucky play for USC. The coverage was there and it was a pass play (toy4two) not a running play. And if you watch closely the ND player turned around just a second late and the ball still barely cleared being blocked by his hand. Had he turned around a split second sooner or moved his hand less than a few inches that ball would have fallen incomplete. Don't believe me, go check the re-play. Plus this doesn't even count Leinart's fumble out of bounds, if it goes less than 1 yd downfield it is an automatic touchback and the ball is ND's, streak over. You may think that ND deserved to lose, but by no means did USC deserve to win either. C'mon, they win by 1 but were favored by much more.

Like I said earlier, USC is a great team, but they are not unbeatable. That has been proven in many instances this year. To think Texas will be a cakewalk is being short-sighted. Sure they play 10 games USC probably wins 7 or 8. But they don't win 10, the question is on January 4th is which game will it be?

Finally the day as come.. I'm still rooting for Texas to win ! Texas D is going to be challenged for sure.

Anyone catch that crazy Orange Bowl game last night? I'm hoping this one turns out similar in OT cept with Texas on top.

Is it me or are USC getting served right now? I mean bad!!!!!

Texas really turned up the juice in the last 10 minutes of the first half. They got away with one on that pitch from Vince Young, he was down before he pitched it. USC got away with one there as well, and were lucky to get that field goal at the end. Leinart's pass was indeed intercepted. Possession was had by the Texas linebacker as he hit the ground, which immediately should've blown the play dead as an interception. Goes both ways I suppose, should be a VERY entertaining second half. :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:

hey wheres all the usc fans lol

Damn he missed the FG!! damn you Texas.. WIN

ahh crap, texas defence is falling apart, come on vince time to do ya thang!!

wowVince Young could give a damn about a Heisman right about now :D ..........

Omgggggggggggggg I Love Vince Young And I Love Texas!!!!!!!!

Texasssssssss Winsssssssssssssssssssss

41-38 Texas!!!

TEXAS WINS!


To all the naysayers..vince DID IT

Hate to say I told you so.......:p :D



Great GAME!!!!! :thumbup:

the eyes of texas are upon us bein sang in a cali stadium....love it!

Hate to say I told you so.......:p :D



Great GAME!!!!! :thumbup:


Same here ;)

And NO THREE-PETE!

I want to see all you Texas lovers posting back in this thread after the championship game. I don't even think it will be close. USC is just going to stomp them like they've done almost everyone else the past 2 seasons. It's always funny to me how people seem to think a juggernaut is just all of a sudden going to fall because the stars and the heavens have lined up a certain way, that doesn't happen too often, and definitely not to a juggernaut like this current USC football team. This game will be boring unless you're into Reggie Bush highlights, USC will be killing them by the 2nd period.

Pete Carroll is the difference maker in this, he will scheme to stop Vince Young and Co. and it won't be pretty for Texas.


Posting back after the championship game :D only because you asked :p

WAY TO GO TEXAS!!! That was the best game I have seen in a while!!!

did anyone else see Wooderson ???? I t was like for a second

http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c133/JOHNNYJUNCTION/wooderson.jpg

That was an awesome game all the way to the end!

Great game...Congrats Texas! :woot:

Most excellent game to the very end :thumbup:

SC got jobbed on a few calls, but nonetheless, congrats to Texas!

There were some bad calls on both sides. Even if the first Texas touchdown had been recalled, they were doing so well on that drive I'm sure they would have made it the second go around.

Congrats So-Cal For Playing An Awesome Game!!

Congrats Texas For Winning An Awesome Game!!

did anyone else see Wooderson ???? I t was like for a second

http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c133/JOHNNYJUNCTION/wooderson.jpg




I saw him.... Alriiiiiight Alriiiight Alriiiiiiiight

the vy band wagon has just started rolling smh lol

Go Big 12!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

No doubt... but the fumble mid field in the 4th qtr was pretty clear.. (at least to this sofa referee

You need to move your sofa then.......he was CLEARLY down by contact........

All of th eReggie Bush hype......... :uh: .........that hype should have been directed at Young......best performace I have seen by a college QB.....the dude was amazing.

I'm not (and never have been) a big 'College Ball' fan, but what a simply awesome and most entertaining game! Damn I wish the Cowboys could pick him up next season! :cry:
But the Texans are gonna be lookin good with Reggie next season. :thumbup:

WAY TO GO BIG TEXAS!!!

It was one of the best games I have seen in awhile.....it took both teams a minute to get back in stride after the month off, but the 2nd half was awesome. There were alot of games like that this year......thats two nights in a row that Im up until almost 2am becuase of these games!

I'm not (and never have been) a big 'College Ball' fan, but what a simply awesome and most entertaining game! Damn I wish the Cowboys could pick him up next season! :cry:
But the Texans are gonna be lookin good with Reggie next season. :thumbup:

WAY TO GO BIG TEXAS!!!
totally agree, but if young goes to draft, texans will surely pick him, and thats his hometown team :thumbup:

and the Texans need all the help, and fans they can get by god lol

oh well... socal has to lose some time :p they'll be back :thumbup:

Hook em horns!! :D :D

NUFF SAID!!! :woohoo: :woohoo: Bush maybe be a badass, but Young will always get the job done.

I was getting a bit nervous for the Longhorns but kept my faith in them all the way through.

I can't thank them enough for not letting me down.

Long live the LONGHORNS!




also, Good game to USC. They almost had it (I'm sure all of you know what I'm talking about)

I want to see all you Texas lovers posting back in this thread after the championship game. I don't even think it will be close. USC is just going to stomp them like they've done almost everyone else the past 2 seasons. It's always funny to me how people seem to think a juggernaut is just all of a sudden going to fall because the stars and the heavens have lined up a certain way, that doesn't happen too often, and definitely not to a juggernaut like this current USC football team. This game will be boring unless you're into Reggie Bush highlights, USC will be killing them by the 2nd period.

Pete Carroll is the difference maker in this, he will scheme to stop Vince Young and Co. and it won't be pretty for Texas.


Should i dance or should I sing? Maybe I'll do both. Its crazy here in Dallas, I just wish I was back in Austin for this moment

I couldn't believe SC lost...how sad.... :cry:

True, V.Young played awesome, but only reason Texas won was 'cuz the refs were on their team as well...seriously, EVER call went their way. And all u Texas fans are gonna argue it, but you KNOW that his knee was down when he lateralled that ball. Can't argue that. :p

But hey, it was a dang good game :thumbup: ...back and forth, back and forth...if only Leinart had played better.... :sad:

I couldn't believe SC lost...how sad.... :cry:

True, V.Young played awesome, but only reason Texas won was 'cuz the refs were on their team as well...seriously, EVER call went their way. And all u Texas fans are gonna argue it, but you KNOW that his knee was down when he lateralled that ball. Can't argue that. :p

But hey, it was a dang good game :thumbup: ...back and forth, back and forth...if only Leinart had played better.... :sad:

10 bucks if 'SC wins all the whorns fans will be crying excuses left & right...while if 'SC loses they will simply state that they lost to the best team at the time. (Posted by member KVA in this thread 12/07) -- looks like inbreeding is alive and well on the left coast -- console yourselves over a grande latte!! LOL -- the look on Matt LIneyboys face -- what a chump -- who did you think you were??? LOL ... Ahhhh ... the crystal is coming to TEXAS -- TEXAS baby ... :woot:

i blame Carroll (who drives a 4Runner incidentally...)

and Bush.

[ but only reason Texas won was 'cuz the refs were on their team as well...seriously, EVER call went their way.

Vegas controls these sport games. Remember Maurice Clarett from Ohio State. Glad I didn't lose anymore money on betting.

Great game. Nice to see so many Texas fans out in force and everyone getting along well. Congrats LH, well deserved.

Tonight, the Rose Bowl provided a demonstration of all the reasons we love college football. Seldom do you see a game played at this level of intensity from the kickoff to the final gun. The talent, the spirit, and the (dare I say?) professionalism of the coaches and players did the fans – and the game – proud. I can’t imagine a better way to end the season. There were no losers tonight.

CONGRATULATIONS 'HORNS!!

I don't know what to say, this was such a great game. I was going for the horns cuz I'm tired of the usc talk. Refs really blew that call where Vince's kee was clearly down but overall a great game called. Did anyone see sourpus Leinert after the game. What a sore loser. I loved Vince after game when he was saying that the egg was coing to Texas..Great game just a great game..

That was a dandy! Holy cow whatta ballgame huh?

Vince Young in my eyes just passed Leinhart in the draft and after that horrific comment about how USC has the better team I am sure Vince will be drafted before him now. That guy is amazing, I wish I could have seen more of him this year to really appreciate how good he is.

The refs did blow that call but unfortunatley thats part of the game, sux when it happens to your team but everyone has been through it.

Congrats all you Horn fans, prolly still out drinking lol. :thumbup:

That was a dandy! Holy cow whatta ballgame huh?

Vince Young in my eyes just passed Leinhart in the draft and after that horrific comment about how USC has the better team I am sure Vince will be drafted before him now. That guy is amazing, I wish I could have seen more of him this year to really appreciate how good he is.

The refs did blow that call but unfortunatley thats part of the game, sux when it happens to your team but everyone has been through it.

Congrats all you Horn fans, prolly still out drinking lol. :thumbup:


You saw that right? Leinhart looked like such a sore loser, he didn't really look like he wanted to be interviewed and than starts with "we're the better team" I mean come on. I know you just lose a close championship game and get a mike stuffed in your face right after the whistle blows, its not easy but how come after those 34 wins he never complained or made faces like that. Oh I know, cuz he won !! but now he loses and its sour face. "we're better" commments. Vince just passed him on the draft. Why can't players just say we got beat?

Does anyone know who the top 5 drafting teams are ? In what order..Texans than who follows.?

I couldn't believe SC lost...how sad.... :cry:

True, V.Young played awesome, but only reason Texas won was 'cuz the refs were on their team as well...seriously, EVER call went their way. And all u Texas fans are gonna argue it, but you KNOW that his knee was down when he lateralled that ball. Can't argue that. :p

But hey, it was a dang good game :thumbup: ...back and forth, back and forth...if only Leinart had played better.... :sad:

That is true, Youngs knee was down...but who is to say they wouldn't have scored that drive. That was the only bad call I saw that Texas got away with. To make things even, later in the game Texas clearly intercepted the ball and it remained in USC's hands.

I want to see all you Texas lovers posting back in this thread after the championship game. I don't even think it will be close. USC is just going to stomp them like they've done almost everyone else the past 2 seasons. It's always funny to me how people seem to think a juggernaut is just all of a sudden going to fall because the stars and the heavens have lined up a certain way, that doesn't happen too often, and definitely not to a juggernaut like this current USC football team. This game will be boring unless you're into Reggie Bush highlights, USC will be killing them by the 2nd period.

Pete Carroll is the difference maker in this, he will scheme to stop Vince Young and Co. and it won't be pretty for Texas.

People can complain about the knee being down all they want. But they overcame it to re-take the lead late.

USC had a 12 point lead with something like 6 minutes to go and then LenDale can't get the 1st down and the defense just gets its ass kicked the last 2 drives. To think that USC is a better team is wrong. Especially considering this was basically a home game for USC, this was not a neutral field.

Goes both ways Mike. Where will those USC fans be when their winning streak is stopped on the 4th?

Don't get me wrong, USC is a great team with some excellent playmakers. But they have not been as impressive as in past years and as they say, all good things must come to an end. Why not Texas?

Hey Mike, thought it wasn't even going to be close? What happened? Wow, twice in less than 12 months you're wrong. The 3rd charm will be when the Lakers miss the playoffs this year.

My original prediction wasn't too far off. I had it 38-28 Texas (see my post #26 on 12/5/05). USC was a great team, the streak is dead and USC will have it's work cut out next year.

mike continually getting called out on his bold sports predictions. you shoulda made a stand-alone thread for this one. itll get better, locster.....

Wow,

I've never experienced such pain from football game outcome....to see SC lose was and still pretty tough to stomach.

My hats off to Vince Young and the Longhorns....

No matter how you put it, it came down the person/team who had the ball last in their/his hands....there is simply no game plan that will cover a scrambling quarterback such as Vince Young....it should almost be outlawed...LoL

And like Lexism said, we gotta lose sometime.....sure 3 in a row would be nice, but hey, that's just the way the cookie crumbles...I'm just glad USC fought hard all the way to the end..... :thumbup:

And since Vince Young tnred up the juice last night, my Saints(who have the 2nd pick in the draft), may end up picking him up with a performance like that.....

And I'll say it again,
Texas won, and that's all that matters - no crying from me....
And I'll close it with saying my Congrats to them :thumbup:

That is true, Youngs knee was down...but who is to say they wouldn't have scored that drive. That was the only bad call I saw that Texas got away with. To make things even, later in the game Texas clearly intercepted the ball and it remained in USC's hands.


Exactly! They made so much progress on that drive they for sure would have pushed it in if they had to do it over. Plus (as the comentators noted) the officials and coaches had MORE THAN ENOUGH time to call a review on that play.

that was a good game and i truly wanted to see usc go into the record books even though im not a true usc fan but texas or more to the point in-VINCE-able young just kicked the **** out of the usc defense all night. congrads to texas. it seems to me that everyone in the country except usc knew that vince was going to have to score those points in order to win, so what does usc do? they let him walk in the endzone 3 times in the final 6 minutes. that right there shows that they didnt deserve a 3peat

Exactly! They made so much progress on that drive they for sure would have pushed it in if they had to do it over. Plus (as the comentators noted) the officials and coaches had MORE THAN ENOUGH time to call a review on that play.

They did say they were having "technical difficulties" in the replay booth at that time. USC should have called a time out to allow them time to fix the problem.

My hat's off to Texas for the win... :thumbup:

I was there last night and have to admit that both offenses were dominating though Texas was more or less a one man show with Vince. I have mixed feeling about the refs and the poor job they did and wish that element of the game wasn't tied to the outcome for either team...but that is the nature of the game.

I had figured that this game would either be a blowout by USC or very close with either walking away at the end of the game...unfortunately it was the later.

'SC has had a great run of 34 straight and will just need to start a new dynasty next year since we are loaded again. Fight on! Trojans!

Texas - enjoy your first title in 36 years...

Wow there are a lot of sour people from SC today huh???
You guys gott beat plain and simple. Stop blaming the refs you could have ponied up and stop them when you needed.
But like Leinhart said you had the better team lol :sad:

True indeed if they could have stopped Texas they would have won or if they had gotten the first down, they would have won. However, I do have to agree with SC fans on this one. The refs in the entire bowl season were suspect. I'm a Georgia Tech grad and we got beat fair and square..(we actually got the brakes beat off of us but that's another story for another day.) I wish the refs suspect calls in the national title game were not so obvious and wish they didn't have such an impact on the game. I just don't like it when the outside factor plays a role in the outcome of the game. I can recall two plays. (Young's knee down which wasn't reviewed and resulted in a TD, and the catch and fumble and turnover which was ruled incomplete---this one was close and could have went wither way, but I think the replay showed he clearly had possession and then lost it) Either way it was a good game and I can't wait to see what these guys do in the pros. They may end up sucking...who knows? Some guy from Mississippi River Valley Delta State may come in and be better than all of them. Hahahaha. It will be an exciting draft this year though.

PS...What was up with Reggie Bush not playing much in the 3rd or 4th quarter. That's crazy!!!

C'mon Every one lets jump on the bandwagon ...lol:D

Hahahaha. No bandwagonning here!!!! Hahaha. LMAO!!! USC :woohoo: Texas

[QUOTE=Two-Times], and the catch and fumble and turnover which was ruled incomplete---this one was close and could have went wither way, but I think the replay showed he clearly had possession and then lost it)[QUOTE]

I have to disagree with this. I don't think he had possesion long enough to make an "athletic" move, such as turning up the field. If he had turned around after the catch and then the ball was knocked loose, then SC would have had a turnover.

Moreover, USC had the chance to do big things in the first half. Instead, they only got 10 points.If they played the "perfect" game, then I think these controversies wouldn't have mattered. They couldn't stop Vince Young, period. It hurts....what was suppose to happen, happened. It was destined to....

Yes, it will be interesting this year in terms of the NFL Draft. Vince Young is a potential #1 Overall Pick....

[QUOTE=Two-Times], and the catch and fumble and turnover which was ruled incomplete---this one was close and could have went either way, but I think the replay showed he clearly had possession and then lost it)[QUOTE]

I have to disagree with this. I don't think he had possesion long enough to make an "athletic" move, such as turning up the field. If he had turned around after the catch and then the ball was knocked loose, then SC would have had a turnover.

Moreover, USC had the chance to do big things in the first half. Instead, they only got 10 points.If they played the "perfect" game, then I think these controversies wouldn't have mattered. They couldn't stop Vince Young, period. It hurts....what was suppose to happen, happened. It was destined to....

Yes, it will be interesting this year in terms of the NFL Draft. Vince Young is a potential #1 Overall Pick....

You just made my point. The call could have went either way. You think it was not in possession long enough but I do, matter of opinion. And I agree, USC just couldn't stop Texas...bottom line. I'm not making excuses as I don't hold any loyalty to either of these teams; I'm just bringing up points that I hate occurred in the game, but that's the nature of sports. Like I said, it was a good game nonetheless. Do you think Vince will do well in the NFL as a quarterback? I hope so...One thing I do know is that he won't do the things he does now such as get hit and swat them off like flies. With that being said, Reggie Bush won't do what he does now either. Yes, Vince is a big guy, but come on, when Ray Lewis, Takeo Spikes, or D'angelo Hall get a hold of him...(ok I'm kidding about D'Angelo Hall....hahaha), it's not gonna be any of that bouncing off stuff. He's big, but not as big as Daunte Culpepper and he's fast and shift but not as fast and shifty as Michael Vick and these guys get blasted on a regular basis. However, e does combine the two very well, so it will be interesteing to see.

I don't know what to say, this was such a great game. I was going for the horns cuz I'm tired of the usc talk. Refs really blew that call where Vince's kee was clearly down but overall a great game called. Did anyone see sourpus Leinert after the game. What a sore loser. I loved Vince after game when he was saying that the egg was coing to Texas..Great game just a great game..

Yeah, you can say Leinert is a sour puss, but Reggie Bush and Matt Leinert visited Texas' locker room after the game and congratulated those guys....pay attention to the details on sportscenter. I'm not saying that Leinert's comments after the game were not a little sour, but you would be upset too if you lost a national title game and a shot at history. *******t, I'd still be cussing!!! hahahahaha. Anyway, I think both teams showed alot of respect and professionalism, which is what sports is really about. Let's be real, it's just a game and it's only meant for fun, but we make it too too too serious alot of the time.

People can complain about the knee being down all they want. But they overcame it to re-take the lead late.

To think that USC is a better team is wrong. Especially considering this was basically a home game for USC, this was not a neutral field.

...the streak is dead and USC will have it's work cut out next year.

The knee was only one of many missed calls that went Texas' way...I was there and saw all of them. Texas played very well offensively, specifically VY. Bad calls are a part of the game and it is not an excuse, just sad that it has to be played out that way between two very evenly matched teams. The fumble by Texas on their last drive was typical of the bad calls...it was clearly a fumble recovered by 'SC...end of game.

USC is a great team...34 win streak, 2 back-to-back national titles, 4 pac-10 conference titles in a row. What is not good about this team?

This is very far from a home game for USC...have you played in the Rose Bowl? I have and it is NOT a home game by any stretch...personally I don't even like the stadium...the coliseum is way better and IS home to USC. UCLA calls the RB home.

Do you follow college football? USC is loaded next year...it is not a rebuilding year for 'SC but rather a reloading year...we are going to have lots of depth at positions that hurt us this year, specifically on defense. On offense our entire line returns (starters from 2003), our starting (2003) rb returns, all our recievers return, our only loss is reggie, possible lendale, and ML. We have two very capable QB's behind him that were both 5* out of HS...our recruiting class will be top 5 again this year...where do we have our work cut out for us? Yes our OOC schedule is the toughest in the nation (Arkansas, Nebraska, and Notre Dame) and we play all 9 pac-10 schools next year, but I would fully expect us to lose maybe one game at the most, maybe even start a new streak.

We have lost only 4 games in 4 years by a total of 16 points...we aren't going anywhere except back to the top.

If Texas can keep VY for one more year they will have a great chance to repeat, but I doubt he stays...and if he leaves, OSU beats them in Austin early next year.

Fight On!

totally agree, but if young goes to draft, texans will surely pick him, and thats his hometown team :thumbup:

i think the Texans will still get Bush even if Young goes to the draft.

i think that Carr is a good quarterback, its' just that he's behind a below average O-Line

You can't win it every year, trust me I know, I'm a Yankee fan. We got used to wiining it all every year but sooner or later a lost will come.. Texas got some breaks but still were done 12 with 4min. to play. A championship team like say the Pats would nbot have given up the lead.

Wow there are a lot of sour people from SC today huh???
You guys gott beat plain and simple. Stop blaming the refs you could have ponied up and stop them when you needed.
But like Leinhart said you had the better team lol :sad:

No one is sour...'SC lost and Texas won...all I wish is that the refs didn't contribute to the win or defeat of either of the teams...I was at the game...I sat through all the frickin badly timed TV timeouts, all the bad/missed calls, all the suspect replays or lack thereof...the fans had to scream to get the refs to look at replays...what a joke! We (as fans) should not have any impact on calls. period.

I am not bitter, it was a classic game much like the ND game this year...People are generally jealous when it comes to success and have been during USC's streak...and now Texas will get their turn at the pressure of being #1...

Also, you would be a little sour like ML if you were a true competitor and had just lost the national title game after only losing one other game in your entire collegiate career...though I wouldn't call it sour when he has the balls to go over to the Texas locker room and congratulate them on their championship. You think VY would have done the same?

Can't wait for next year...Fight On!

Matt did go over to the other locker room with bush to say congrats, true but mayb only after realizeing he looked like a sore loser with his "we're still better" comment.

Matt did go over to the other locker room with bush to say congrats, true but mayb only after realizeing he looked like a sore loser with his "we're still better" comment.

Damn, you guys are relentless!!! Hahahaha. You just refuse to admit that some guys do actually have good character traits. Whatever his motive he did it, and Reggie to, and Reggie wasn't whining about losing!!! I don't know why any of them would be mad honestly. I'd be like, *****, I'm about to make millions playing a game anyway, so I'm cool!!! Hahahahaha

i think the Texans will still get Bush even if Young goes to the draft.

i think that Carr is a good quarterback, its' just that he's behind a below average O-Line


:agree: even though Vince Young stock rose 10 points yesterday, I don't see him as a huge standout NFL quarterback. The day of the running/scrambling Qback has come and gone. Even the almighty Vick has proven the case that a primarily running qback does not win a NFL championship. Vick's saving grace is that he can air the ball out, albeit not overly accurate. Young WILL get drafted. He will probably be thrust into a QB position from the get go. And he will most likely go the route of Kordell Stewart......nowhere. Unless, he is moved to another position.
Young is big...and fast....WR anyone? Return specialist maybe?? :uh:

Just my .02 but I don't see a stellar NFL QB career in his future.

The knee was only one of many missed calls that went Texas' way...I was there and saw all of them. Texas played very well offensively, specifically VY. Bad calls are a part of the game and it is not an excuse, just sad that it has to be played out that way between two very evenly matched teams. The fumble by Texas on their last drive was typical of the bad calls...it was clearly a fumble recovered by 'SC...end of game.

I disagree, I had the ability to look at most replays from a variety of angles. The fumble was a bang bang play that even after review was ruled incomplete. Yes, the Texas player for a very slight instance had the ball in his hands, but he did NOT make any moves and was hit right away on the ball causing it to come loose and be ruled incomplete. I had the ability to see this replay in both slow motion and real speed. To call this a "bad call" is 100% incorrect. There was nothing conclusive in the replay to overturn this. (I am not a fan of either team, just a football junkie)

This is very far from a home game for USC...have you played in the Rose Bowl? I have and it is NOT a home game by any stretch...personally I don't even like the stadium...the coliseum is way better and IS home to USC. UCLA calls the RB home.

Yes, dude, I know the Rose Bowl is not their home field, but come on, you look pretty foolish trying to say they didn't have any home field advantage when they are located just down the road while Texas has to cross how many state lines to get there? Your argument would be like saying Notre Dame doesn't have an edge if the game were played in Indianapolis (instead of South Bend) against say Nebraska. USC fans had a short car ride while most Texas fans had to take a plane to get there. USC definitely had an advantage, no if's, and's or but's.

Do you follow college football? USC is loaded next year...it is not a rebuilding year for 'SC but rather a reloading year...we are going to have lots of depth at positions that hurt us this year, specifically on defense. On offense our entire line returns (starters from 2003), our starting (2003) rb returns, all our recievers return, our only loss is reggie, possible lendale, and ML. We have two very capable QB's behind him that were both 5* out of HS...our recruiting class will be top 5 again this year...where do we have our work cut out for us? Yes our OOC schedule is the toughest in the nation (Arkansas, Nebraska, and Notre Dame) and we play all 9 pac-10 schools next year, but I would fully expect us to lose maybe one game at the most, maybe even start a new streak.


Fight On!

Well I don't intricately follow USC's roster. But I do know it isn't as easy as you think to replace 2 Heisman Trophy winners (Leinart/Bush), LenDale White, and whomever else is leaving. I don't care how highly touted they are. OK, you will improve on Defense, but you will still need to score points and to think that you can just plug and play for Leinart, Bush, and White....well. Plus expectations and pressure can be a killer. It will be interesting to see how they handle it.

Best of luck to USC and I do agree this squad for USC was one of the greatest teams ever assembled in college football. For that they should be congratulated (along with their 2 National Championships).

[QUOTE=SC400Dude][QUOTE=Two-Times], and the catch and fumble and turnover which was ruled incomplete---this one was close and could have went either way, but I think the replay showed he clearly had possession and then lost it)

You just made my point. The call could have went either way. You think it was not in possession long enough but I do, matter of opinion. And I agree, USC just couldn't stop Texas...bottom line. I'm not making excuses as I don't hold any loyalty to either of these teams; I'm just bringing up points that I hate occurred in the game, but that's the nature of sports. Like I said, it was a good game nonetheless. Do you think Vince will do well in the NFL as a quarterback? I hope so...One thing I do know is that he won't do the things he does now such as get hit and swat them off like flies. With that being said, Reggie Bush won't do what he does now either. Yes, Vince is a big guy, but come on, when Ray Lewis, Takeo Spikes, or D'angelo Hall get a hold of him...(ok I'm kidding about D'Angelo Hall....hahaha), it's not gonna be any of that bouncing off stuff. He's big, but not as big as Daunte Culpepper and he's fast and shift but not as fast and shifty as Michael Vick and these guys get blasted on a regular basis. However, e does combine the two very well, so it will be interesteing to see.
i was thinking the exact same thing, no one could tackle this guy, but in the nfl the guys are bigger and the defenses are much faster. USC looked like they were running in slow motion

[QUOTE=SC400Dude][QUOTE=Two-Times], and the catch and fumble and turnover which was ruled incomplete---this one was close and could have went either way, but I think the replay showed he clearly had possession and then lost it)

You just made my point. The call could have went either way. You think it was not in possession long enough but I do, matter of opinion. And I agree, USC just couldn't stop Texas...bottom line. I'm not making excuses as I don't hold any loyalty to either of these teams; I'm just bringing up points that I hate occurred in the game, but that's the nature of sports. Like I said, it was a good game nonetheless. Do you think Vince will do well in the NFL as a quarterback? I hope so...One thing I do know is that he won't do the things he does now such as get hit and swat them off like flies. With that being said, Reggie Bush won't do what he does now either. Yes, Vince is a big guy, but come on, when Ray Lewis, Takeo Spikes, or D'angelo Hall get a hold of him...(ok I'm kidding about D'Angelo Hall....hahaha), it's not gonna be any of that bouncing off stuff. He's big, but not as big as Daunte Culpepper and he's fast and shift but not as fast and shifty as Michael Vick and these guys get blasted on a regular basis. However, e does combine the two very well, so it will be interesteing to see.


It will be very interesting on how Vince Young would do in the NFL. I've never seen anyone quite like him to be honest with you guys....he's big, fast, and a powerful runner. He's a different breed of running QB. He has a different style than Vick. Plus, the dude can throw the ball. He sure can hang in there in tight situations.
I predict that he is going to be very prolific in the NFL.

But don't count out Leinart and Bush just yet....sure they played their hearts out, but they are still damn good ball players. It sucks to lose, yes, but what they do next will determine what characters they are. Time will only tell.

I disagree, I had the ability to look at most replays from a variety of angles. The fumble was a bang bang play that even after review was ruled incomplete. Yes, the Texas player for a very slight instance had the ball in his hands, but he did NOT make any moves and was hit right away on the ball causing it to come loose and be ruled incomplete. I had the ability to see this replay in both slow motion and real speed. To call this a "bad call" is 100% incorrect. There was nothing conclusive in the replay to overturn this. (I am not a fan of either team, just a football junkie)

I played football for USC...I know the game well and follow it religiously. That catch and fumble was exactly that...a fumble. The Texas player caught the ball with his hands outstretched, pulled it into his body, turned and took a step (hence a catch)...this isn't the NFL where he has to make a "football" move once he catches the ball. It was simply a bad call...I also watched the replay as well as the "live" play since a fan next to me had a TV in the stadium...it was a bad call. Big 10 refs suck...you can hear/read about it on every major sports channel/internet site. The calls throughout the game where an issue as well as the very poor clock managment by the refs. They would let 20 seconds pass before the 25 second clock would start, etc...not to mention the malfunction of the RB game clock and the refs inability to keep time. Would fixing any of this change the outcome...I don't know, maybe not. VY was on fire and this game came down to the last team with the ball (with time on the clock) would win.

Yes, dude, I know the Rose Bowl is not their home field, but come on, you look pretty foolish trying to say they didn't have any home field advantage when they are located just down the road while Texas has to cross how many state lines to get there? Your argument would be like saying Notre Dame doesn't have an edge if the game were played in Indianapolis (instead of South Bend) against say Nebraska. USC fans had a short car ride while most Texas fans had to take a plane to get there. USC definitely had an advantage, no if's, and's or but's.

How is the Rose Bowl home field advantage? Because we can commute 1.5 hours to get there? It is a neutral field that USC plays at once every two years except at possible Rose Bowl games. Texas had as many fans in the RB...who had the advantage? The Texas Exes probably have 30,000 members local in So. Cal alone...which is probably close to what USC has locally in terms of alumni. Texas even stated that they felt "at home" in the RB since they were just there the year before...USC hadn't been there since the 2004 season as well. The only advantage we had was that we got to practice at our own field on campus...which isn't always an advantage since you have everyone and their mother trying to come watch the practices and seek out autographs...it is a lot easier to be focused when you don't have those distractions. Would Indy be neutral for ND?...anything is better than their stadium in South Bend. Shoot why not play in West Lafayette. Yes, it would be more neutral...but comparing going to a cold Indianapolis versus going to a national championship game that happens to be the first in 36 years for a team in sunny So Cal...you can imagine why so many Texas fans came out to the game. There was no advantage except it was easier for USC folks to get to the RB...and how does that give the team an advantage. At the end of the day the stadium was 50/50 filled with fans from both teams, regardless of how they got there, they were there in force...with both student sections located in the opposite end zones, unlike a home game where they are on the 50. There was no advantage from a fan perspective and the stadium itself is not an advantage to the team. I don't get why people think it is such an advantage...???

Well I don't intricately follow USC's roster. But I do know it isn't as easy as you think to replace 2 Heisman Trophy winners (Leinart/Bush), LenDale White, and whomever else is leaving. I don't care how highly touted they are. OK, you will improve on Defense, but you will still need to score points and to think that you can just plug and play for Leinart, Bush, and White....well. Plus expectations and pressure can be a killer. It will be interesting to see how they handle it.

Replacing Lienart will be more difficult than Bush, but then again we replaced Heisman winner Carson Palmer with Lienart...the starting RB from the 2003 season will be back after a medical reshirt (he started over Bush and Lendale)...I really have no fear that USC will score lots of points, but where we improve the most is at defense with almost all the key players returning. We will probably have the best linebacking core in the country for the next few years. I don't really see a huge drop in productivity overall, but rather a shift in scoring points versus holding teams to low scores. At the end of the day USC will continue to compete for national titles for years to come.

Best of luck to USC and I do agree this squad for USC was one of the greatest teams ever assembled in college football. For that they should be congratulated (along with their 2 National Championships).

Thanks! This was a great run...12-2 in 2002, 12-1 in 2003, 13-0 in 2004 and 12-1 in 2005...and we only lost those four games by an average of 3 points...it was an incredible run and I admit seems hard to follow, but Pete Carroll isn't your average college coach...he is probably already scheming how to get the rest of his 4* and 5* commits to reload his dynasty. Next year we should do no worse than what we did in the 2002 building year.

KVA, we'll just agree to disagree. Seems like a bit of sour grapes to me, but heck, what do I know.

To say some here are making excuses is obvious...Funny I can point out a post about a $10 bet and a bench warmer cries wolf....
This loss did more than can be relayed in words to sc -- this loss will haunt more than one players' life and any perceived tenure in the NFL...job well done Longhorns!!
Via ESPN poll - state by state (except for one) picked that Vince Young would be the most effective player of the game...
In closing, what became of our right to free speech? Isn't that what our left coast pals march in the streets for anyway?

How is the Rose Bowl home field advantage? Because we can commute 1.5 hours to get there?

Where are you driving from? If you're pretty much anywhere in LA it shouldn't take more than 45 minutes to get there. :uh:

How is the Rose Bowl home field advantage? Because we can commute 1.5 hours to get there?

Um ya lol. You hit the nail on the head. For you to say that it wasnt home field advantage makes you look somewhat foolish. I mean come an no one from Texas could just hope in their car and drive to the game. They had to travel to get there, much much different.

Um ya lol. You hit the nail on the head. For you to say that it wasnt home field advantage makes you look somewhat foolish. I mean come an no one from Texas could just hope in their car and drive to the game. They had to travel to get there, much much different.

Come on guys...play nice!!! Saying it makes someone look foolish is not nice. This is a forum where people can express their opinions and no one should be bashed or said they look foolish for having an opinion. You guys are making this way too serious.

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I was just saying it was foolish to say that they didnt have a homefield advantage, I wasnt trying to harm or bash KVA in any other way. I apologize if it came off like that. Mostly all the guys in here have been around for a while and know I am not like that so again I apologize if it came out wrong.

Hey check out the rookie tryin to get his moderation on LOL. It's ok two-times we're all friends here besides haven't you heard............................................. .............................. :D



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What's up Domenic??!!!

This new sports forum is gonna get F-U-N come baseball season between us Yankee guys and you Sawx guys! :D

Hey Mark, How ya been buddy? How was your Holiday? Yea I just noticed this forum yesterday. When was it started? I haven't been on much in the past month but things have quieted down at work a bit so I should be here to talk smack more often HAH j/k.
Well Manny's being Manny again. Said yesterday on a Spanish speaking talk radio show he now wants to stay in Boston and has many friends on the team including his best friend Ortiz. He doesn't want to go to the National League or play for a team that won't contend for a championship whereas he always has that in Boston.

Gonna go PM so the thread stays On Topic.

Where are you driving from? If you're pretty much anywhere in LA it shouldn't take more than 45 minutes to get there. :uh:

...and a guy from Texas telling me it should only take 45 minutes :rolleyes: ...sure it SHOULD only take 45 minutes but we are in LA...bet you weren't on the 405 -> 105 -> 110 -> 5 -> 2 ->134 in bumper-to-bumper traffic with me on Wednesday trying to get to the game...and it took almost as long getting home at midnight.

My co-worker is a Texas alumni and even he thinks the Rose Bowl was not an advantage to USC...all he kept telling me is that there are more Texas alumni in LA than USC alumni and since USC only has just over 180,000 alumni world-wide and Texas just under 500,000 I am sure he is right. He states 30,000 local alumni in So Cal alone. Also, I heard that the figure was 55,000 Texas fans out of 94,000 seats at the RB...Not much of an advantage there...maybe if any of you actually played division 1 college football AND played in the Rose Bowl you would understand what I am talking about.

I am not sour about the game...it was a game for the ages. Every streak comes to an end and we were well prepared for it. But to say that USC had advantages on the field at the Rose Bowl that Texas didn't is a joke...if we played at the Coliseum than I would agree.

I am not sour about the game...it was a game for the ages. Every streak comes to an end and we were well prepared for it. But to say that USC had advantages on the field at the Rose Bowl that Texas didn't is a joke...if we played at the Coliseum than I would agree.

Sorry man but reading most of your posts in this thread, I've already come to a conclusion for myself that you are in-fact sour about the game. Maybe you haven't admitted it to yourself yet.

Hey check out the rookie tryin to get his moderation on LOL. It's ok two-times we're all friends here besides haven't you heard............................................. .............................. :D

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Hahahaha. you guys are too funny. I'm no rookie, I just don't post much. Been on here a while. I was just saying that seemed a little harsh at the way it came off. Believe me, I am laughing at all these. Me and 1Sicklex be rolling over some of these posts that people discuss on here. Very entertaining.

And that's just plain wrong for posting that photo.... hehehehe

Sorry man but reading most of your posts in this thread, I've already come to a conclusion for myself that you are in-fact sour about the game. Maybe you haven't admitted it to yourself yet.

LOL - we are talking about home field advantages...totally different topic than the game itself.

Sure, I don't like to lose more than anyone else does, but we did and we were expecting it to happen sometime soon since the streak couldn't go forever. No sour grapes here. #2 USC is 12-1...they had a great run.

Maybe if you recieved PMs on a car forum out of blue from a classless Texas fan you have never met online or otherwise calling you a loser and stating that you owe them $10 bucks you would be a little sour too. :thumbdn: I don't recall any Texas fans in this thread taking me up on the bet? Especially not the one spamming me.

LOL - we are talking about home field advantages...totally different topic than the game itself.

Sure, I don't like to lose more than anyone else does, but we did and we were expecting it to happen sometime soon since the streak couldn't go forever. No sour grapes here. #2 USC is 12-1...they had a great run.

Maybe if you recieved PMs on a car forum out of blue from a classless Texas fan you have never met online or otherwise calling you a loser and stating that you owe them $10 bucks you would be a little sour too. :thumbdn: I don't recall any Texas fans in this thread taking me up on the bet? Especially not the one spamming me.

LOL :thumbup:
You've "come out of the closet" - congrats! * you brought a private issue to forum*
What KVA is referring to is my reminding him via PM of 2 posts that were made in this very thread (one of which was his) (see #'s 37 and 43) - classless for me to remind him? You be the judge!! To declare one PM as "spam" is rediculous! To ask a moderator to help him - is infantile and a misuse of a mods. time. FWIW I read his/others overly confident posts making fun of UT and the Big 12; kept my mouth shut - waiting for Texas to beat USC - well... KVA and all of the excuse-laden boys of troy, meet S_T_F_U!! :cry:
HOOK 'EM BABY

I was at the game and there was little to no home field advantage...I mean if Duke basketball played in North Carolina's gym would they have a home court advantage? Esp if the tickets were evenly distributed

Texas was well represented (60-40 in the stands) and they had a ton of people outside the Rose Bowl...freaking burnt orange everywhere...but the girls :thumbup: dam they grow em nice down there

if you were at the game you would probably have a different opinion

LOL :thumbup:
You've "come out of the closet" - congrats!
What KVA is referring to is my reminding him via PM of 2 posts he made in this very thread (see #'s 37 and 43) - classless for me to remind him? You be the judge!! To declare one PM as "spam" is rediculous! To ask a moderator to help him - is infantile and a misuse of a mods. time. FWIW I read his posts and kept my mouth shut - waiting for Texas to beat USC - well... KVA, meet S_T_F_U!! :cry:
HOOK 'EM BABY

Remind me by personally calling me a "Loser" (I didn't lose anything BTW, USC did) via PM and asking for $10. Who is the classless as5h013 here? If you had anything to say you would of posted in the thread beforehand, but I guess you were saving all your 9 posts to bash people after the game and via PM. You sent me two PM's, not one and becoming more degrading to me the second one. If I did the same to anyone on CL I would expect the moderators to tell me to stop it...you weren't asking for advise on your car, you were simply bashing me personally. I wouldn't expect that type of PM from a friend who is a Horn fan.

Next time speak up in posts if you "feel" strongly about your team...guess you didn't think they had a chance until "after" they won...you are just another bandwagon fan. Now go back to your double-wide and pray VY doesn't go pro.

Remind me by personally calling me a "Loser" (I didn't lose anything BTW, USC did) via PM and asking for $10. Who is the classless as5h013 here? If you had anything to say you would of posted in the thread beforehand, but I guess you were saving all your 9 posts to bash people after the game and via PM. You sent me two PM's, not one and becoming more degrading to me the second one. If I did the same to anyone on CL I would expect the moderators to tell me to stop it...you weren't asking for advise on your car, you were simply bashing me personally. I wouldn't expect that type of PM from a friend who is a Horn fan.

Next time speak up in posts if you "feel" strongly about your team...guess you didn't think they had a chance until "after" they won...you are just another bandwagon fan. Now go back to your double-wide and pray VY doesn't go pro.

LOLLERSKATES!! @ your lack of comprehension and inability to keep from throwing insulting names into the mix here.
My choice to let actions speak louder than words is directly related to me as a person - I reserve words and taunting, chest thumping online... rather, I stick to keeping it on the DL and remind a few of their outright boisterous babble -
Hey, you're the one that made USC the "we" team - take it on the chin when they lose...just like a left-coast homer to get wishy-washy when reality sets in.....
It's over, it's a game and The University of Texas Longhorns beat sc....'nuff said :D

So honestly... how big of a screw up was that lateral pitch Reggie Bush pulled off? He costed them the game...SC had alot of chances to win - and didn't make the plays. Although its a team game, judging from that play I would blame him for the loss rather than Lendale not converting on 4th down

Vince on the other hand... Ran them over.