I know its football season but I love baseball, even in the winter. I wanted to get your opinions on who is having the best offseason so far.

Off the top of my head

1.Mets- I have to say the Mets are having the biggest splash so far with great moves in getting Wagner to close and Delgado to give them some needed power and La Duca as catcher giving them some clobhouse character. If they pull off a deal for Manny I vote them as a World series favorite for the NL.

2. Whitesox- I think the Whitesox did great in Keeping Paul Konerko, adding Thome and Vasquez was great only losing El Douque plus they resigned Garland and A.J. Pierzynski.

3. Yankees- I have to say it was slow for a while but adding Damon was huge for this team. We lost Gorden but added Dotel, Farnsworth ,Villone and Myers to our bullpen. We kept Bernie to be a part time DH and role player with Cairo back in the fold aswell.

4. Bluejays- Great offseason but they took a lot of chances on some unproven players for big bucks. Added A.J. Burnett, B.J. Ryan, Troy Glaus, Best move imo was Lyle Overbay. He's soooo good.

5. Marlins- Yes I wrote the marlins are having a great offseason. they were able to shrink their payroll by $40 million. Now noone will show up for games and they can finally get the heck out of FL and go to Los Vegas where they can spend and make money on players. Great for themm noone really cares about them anyway down here.

What are your thoughs?

The Bo Sox are making sure that its going to be another 86 years before they win another title. You can clearly see the difference between a GM that knows what it takes to win and a GM that is there to make money. I hate the Red Sucks anyway, so it's all good... maybe the D-Rays wont finish in the cellar this year! :D


As for the Devil Rays, they havent made too many moves this off season as of yet. With new ownership in town and a GM still to be named, things are taking their time to get developed. I think once the "big name" free agency has been finalized, the D-Rays will start trading some people to bring in some quality arms. I think they have just about everything else covered except pitching. They need a starter or two that will be able to last past the 6th inning... all other aspects of the game they got covered! :thumbup:

The Mets keep adding players. I hope they can coach and make a team. Yanks better win it all next year. I MEAN BETTER

The Mets keep adding players. I hope they can coach and make a team. Yanks better win it all next year. I MEAN BETTER

Rumor around Tampa is that the Rays have a deal set up with the Mets for a "decent" arm. In return the Mets would get their closer, Danny Baez, and outfielder Joey Gathright. Somehow this deal is contingent on where the O's deal Tejada... I couldnt imagine why... :uh:


If this is true... this may make the Mets a VERY scary team...

4. Bluejays- Great offseason but they took a lot of chances on some unproven players for big bucks. Added A.J. Burnett, B.J. Ryan, Troy Glaus, Best move imo was Lyle Overbay. He's soooo good.



I agree that Overbay is going to be a stud in the coming years... the Padres should never have traded him... :thumbdn:

The Bo Sox are making sure that its going to be another 86 years before they win another title. You can clearly see the difference between a GM that knows what it takes to win and a GM that is there to make money. I hate the Red Sucks anyway, so it's all good... maybe the D-Rays wont finish in the cellar this year!

Come ahn are you serious. We will still be fighting for the penant come Sept trus tme. We got Schilling, Beckett Wake Arroyo and Papelbon. Some good young arms mixed with some vets. I highly doubt we will be in the cellar.

As for moves ya the Mets have made some very good moves and I dont think they are done yet.

The Yanks big deal getting Damon, they score enough runs, they did NOTHING I mean nothing to address there pitchign woes. It should be an interesting month, keep your ears open for some major moves.

The yanks pitching keeps coming to question on shows and with people at work and I do agree we have some questions but with Randy,Mussina and Wang with hopefully a fully healthy Pavano and guys like Chacon as 5th starters we have enough arms to hold up till the trading deadline and mayb pick up a good deal than if we need.

I agree I don't see the sox fading away but I do see the Bluejays making some noise for the Wildcard.

My predictions :D

A.L. East Champs: NY Yankees

A.L. Central Champs: Chicago White Sox

A.L. West Champs: Oakland A's

Wild Card: Boston Red Sox

The Yankees' pitching staff will be a question. But their offense is so loaded. Who needs pitching?!? Pavano can give up 8 runs in 2 innings and still win the game.

The Angels, Blue Jays and Indians will have around an 86 to 88 win season and miss the Wild Card.

A.L. Championship Series will be the Red Sox vs. Yankees. Here we go again!!! :D

I believe the Dodgers are going to win the WEST!!!
We have proven Veterans on the roster ...hopefuly we can make some thing of it
I just wan to go back to the good ole days :)
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GO BLUE!!

I am very happy that the White Sox have kept their roster in tact and have added some add'l talent (Thome and Vasquez). Yankee and BoSox fans better understand that the CWS are primed to repeat, especially since we kept most of our pitching staff together. :thumbup:

Although it will be interesting to see if Thome still has it. But if we can get 30 homers and 100 RBI from him I'll be happy.

On another note, my Dad got me an autographed CWS World Series Champions bat for X-mas. It's pretty cool and will look great in my sports room.

Although it will be interesting to see if Thome still has it. But if we can get 30 homers and 100 RBI from him I'll be happy.

Let me answer that for you..............................................N O! Try 18 and maybe 75.

Let me answer that for you..............................................N O! Try 18 and maybe 75.

I think 18 is low but 75 is high. he's probably going to hit 22-23 hr's but only have 60-68 rbi's Thats if he's healthy.

I believe the Dodgers are going to win the WEST!!!
We have proven Veterans on the roster ...hopefuly we can make some thing of it
I just wan to go back to the good ole days :)
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GO BLUE!!

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agree.... they may not win it all, but the outlook looks very promising...! :woohoo:

I also think that the L.A. Dodgers will win the N.L. West.

But most of their signings (Lofton, Nomar, etc.) have been only 1-year contracts.

I look forward to another Red Sox-Yankees rivalry (I know I have the East Coast bias attittude :D ).

The Yankees have built one of the best offensive team in the history of baseball. But they do not have the pitching. So it will be interesting.

I hope Schilling and Foulke become healthy for the 2006 season.

I think the dodgers made some nice moves aswell.

And the new Manny news is that he wants to stay, again, maybe, um we think.....lol This guy truly is in his own world. But when you carry a bat like his you can get away with anything.

I think the dodgers made some nice moves aswell.

And the new Manny news is that he wants to stay, again, maybe, um we think.....lol This guy truly is in his own world. But when you carry a bat like his you can get away with anything.


I agree with you!!! :D

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I agree with you!!! :D

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Dude that is classic....LOL

Dude that is classic....LOL


I'm glad you liked it!!! :)

I really wanted to see your team and my team in the ALCS last year. But both of our teams were tired and exhausted as the season came to an end.

Well, it looks like another round (for the 1,000,000,000th time :D ) of Yankee/Red Sox baseball. :thumbup:

Well, it looks like another round (for the 1,000,000,000th time :D ) of Yankee/Red Sox baseball. :thumbup:

Ahem.....both of you have your work cut out to dethrone the Reigning Champions!

Ahem.....both of you have your work cut out to dethrone the Reigning Champions!

Oh man, are you guys to get big heads like the Red Sox did the year before cuz you finally win a title after 100 and sum years? Come on Ed. I know the White Sox are going to be tough this year but in no way are the a lock to go back to the WS.

I can't wait for this season to start. I love Football and basketball but My heart is Baseball.

Wow, Mets trade Benson to O's for Julio and prospect....


Sox's are zooming in on Coco to fill in CF and ready to sign Alex (my last name is not Rodriguez) Gonzalez to play SS.. Theo is back in the saddle and at it again..

A, I have no idea what the Mets are thinking by giving up Benson for Julio??? Dont they have enough setup guys for Wagner already????? Terrible trade IMO.

Hah? How about those Sox baby. Coco patrolling the centerfield position is a huuuuuuuuge upgrade defensively just a little nervous abou this offense production.

A, I have no idea what the Mets are thinking by giving up Benson for Julio??? Dont they have enough setup guys for Wagner already????? Terrible trade IMO.

Hah? How about those Sox baby. Coco patrolling the centerfield position is a huuuuuuuuge upgrade defensively just a little nervous abou this offense production.


Hi there :)

By getting Coco and Alex Gonzalez, we are now a much better defensive team. Our hitting is not as good as the 2003 team, but our offense should be fine.

And our pitching is much better than last season.

I'm also glad that we got rid of Mota (to Cleveland in the Coco deal).

The Red Sox will be fine!!! :cool:

The Red Sox/Yankee rivalry will be awesome for the 2006 season!!!

Damon now a Yankee, a healthy Schilling and Foulke, a rising superstar in Robinson Cano, Randy Johnson who should have a much better season, Josh Beckett in a Red Sox uniform, etc.

I can't wait!!! :D

Oh yeah, there's also the A's and White Sox. :p

I was looking at Coco's stats and they aren't that bad, I mean Damon was WAY better but coco can throw a little batter and is much younger than Damon and way Cheaper. Coco hit .300 last year with 16 HR's and 70RBI's with 180 Hits but only 86 Runs scorded. Thats not bad for a CF..I mean Damon Hit .316 with 10HR's and 75 RBI's but had 117 Runs scored 197 Hits. Pretty close if you ask me and a hell of a lot cheaper, damon is making 12 mil to Coco's 1.5 mil..

Gonzalez is pathetic on Offense. .265 5HR's 45RBI's 115 Hits and only 45 Runs scored, God that sad for an everyday SS with Lowe at 3rd .236 8HR's 58RBI's you guys are really not coming close to scoring like you did last year. I see Big papi losing lots of RBI's..Yes you guys got One really good pitcher but man you lost your best couple prospects, a really good on both sides 3B, a really good SS who would have bounced back great this year for you and lost a great CF who was the catalyst of the top of your batting order. Your going to lose offense at 1B with (melted)snow and (not everyday)Youkilis. Yes you upgraded at 2nd but not so much that it will make up for the rest of the team. Becket has a history of getting hurt, Schilling is getting older and Foulke has to come back and be great for you guys to be able to hold leads since your not going to out score anyone by a lot anymore. Your asking a lot out of a young Popplebon. Aroyo will be Aroyo and Wake will be Wake. You've lost a lot of character on this team and guys like Damon and Millar who took heat off Manny's antics are gone so now everyone will be watching Manny closer this year than before especially with the carzy trade me(wait) no(yes) NO! talk from him already...LOL Boston is going to be either a sleeper an sneak in to the playoffs or a bad team imo.

Adrian now I know you are dreaming, my god is your analysis off.

Ok lets go through it, Lowell had one bad year, in any other year his numbers are way better than Billy Mueller. I have no doubt he will bounce back and have a great year pounding the green monster. As for Crisp, he can cover more ground than Damon, throws better, is faster almost as good offensivley, my only concern is if he can come in and lead off, that will be determined.
Loretta are you kidding me he will close to the top of the leagu ein avg and hits u watch, other than his injuries to his thumb he has never had a bad year.
First base sure it is offensivley not that good but was Millar really that good?????
We will be just fine dont you worry, just keep an eye on the geriatric ward you call the Yankees because they could break down at any given time. Whats the avg age on that team 37? :D

Oh man, are you guys to get big heads like the Red Sox did the year before cuz you finally win a title after 100 and sum years? Come on Ed. I know the White Sox are going to be tough this year but in no way are the a lock to go back to the WS.

I can't wait for this season to start. I love Football and basketball but My heart is Baseball.

I didn't say they were guaranteed to go back (learn to read), but you were discarding them like they didn't even exist. So C'mon yourself!!! Neither the Yankees or Red Sox are locks either. I was just pointing out that the CWS are still the Champions until someone else proves otherwise. Most of our lineup and pitching staff remained intact, thus they have to be considered one of the top five favorites, plain and simple.

I didn't say they were guaranteed to go back (learn to read), but you were discarding them like they didn't even exist. So C'mon yourself!!! Neither the Yankees or Red Sox are locks either. I was just pointing out that the CWS are still the Champions until someone else proves otherwise. Most of our lineup and pitching staff remained intact, thus they have to be considered one of the top five favorites, plain and simple.


We all know they exist, its not like you let us forget ...LOL...But when saying its going to be hard to dethrone the Whitsox I guess I read that as you saying they will be there again next year..I think anyone would read it that way..The great thing about the AL is their is no lock. I think the Yanks, A's and Whitesox's are the front runners tho. Stop taking everything wriiten about the Whitesox to heart. They played great and won the title(for the 1st time in 100 years or so) Whitesox fans should stay humble until they can win more than 1 title every Century, Redsox fans too.. :D...Remember you were in the same place the Cubs are now just last year. Waiting for a title. As Yankee fans you have to understand we get used to winning almost every year and being in the classic to fight for it every year aswell even if we lose we are used to being there. We have a different way of thinking, you guys wouldn't understand :D

Adrian now I know you are dreaming, my god is your analysis off.

Ok lets go through it, Lowell had one bad year, in any other year his numbers are way better than Billy Mueller. I have no doubt he will bounce back and have a great year pounding the green monster. As for Crisp, he can cover more ground than Damon, throws better, is faster almost as good offensivley, my only concern is if he can come in and lead off, that will be determined.
Loretta are you kidding me he will close to the top of the leagu ein avg and hits u watch, other than his injuries to his thumb he has never had a bad year.
First base sure it is offensivley not that good but was Millar really that good?????
We will be just fine dont you worry, just keep an eye on the geriatric ward you call the Yankees because they could break down at any given time. Whats the avg age on that team 37? :D

Honestly J you have to be crazy not to agree with my post about the Sox...The Holes in Lowes swing couldn't be filled with a UFO. He was exposed last year for what he is...Coco is going to be nice but come one, better than Damon, are you writing this from the bar?..LOL...Lets see

1B- No offense but good defense when Snow is in..
2B- Very good player who is coming off a big injury and switching leagues. Less Fastballs in the AL(can he hit a curve)
3B- Lowe. good defense major holes in swing. maybe he'll bounce back but he also is switching leagues and we all know he can't hit a curve or change up..
SS- Alex Gonzalez, I won't even waste the time writing about him we all know he can do(or lack their of)
RF- Nixon, Clutch , I love this guy.
CF- Coco, will be a nice fit but not a true leadoff hitter.
LF- Manny, nothing to say he is great on offense..
DH- Papi is the best of the best hitting...
C- Veritek is just a player who will hit and be a great leader.
this equals a decent line up with a good top of order and horrible lower part of lineup..

Pitching is going to be really nice if you stay healthy.

Becket- stays healthy but is also facing the AL where we have the best hitters in the league plus a DH, remember when he beat us in 2003 we didn't have this good of a lineup, it will be different now.

Shcilling- if he is 80% of what he was will be better than most of the AL pitchers..

Aroyo- well he is a nice kepper, 12-14 games maybe

Wake- not sure if he can continue what he has done the last couple years but he will eat innings.

Popplebon- rookie, great stuff but too much to ask in this division too fast..

Bulpen- is looking really good for you guys excpet closer. can foulke hold 1 run and 2 run leads since you won't be scoring as as last year?

Overall I think theo makes some great midseason trades and gets you guys into the playoff as the Wild card..

My Yankees have more questions marks than the Riddler's costume..

1B- can Giambi come back and do what he did last year , he's 35 now and playing everyday 1st base isn't going to help..Not sure what he can contribute but still will walk a lot and hit homers..
2B- Come on this kid is going to be really really good for us for years to come. he's only 23 :eek2: and hit .297 16HR's and 70 RBI's as a rookie and at 22 years old. Decent defense, could hurt us in big games..
3B- AROD- nothing more to say except if he'll come though in the playoffs. now that he's got a couple years of playoff games under his belt, he should be better,shoot he can't get much worse..LOL
SS- Come on, great reg. season and we all know what he does in the post season..
RF- Gary is getting old, very Old. hope he can still produce close to what he did last year.
CF Damon will hurt us when he throws but we all know what he does really well and thats HIT and SCORE runs, a lot of runs with this lineup, mayb 140.
LF- MR. consistent.
DH- Bernie, what does he have left? close to nothing imo, i say play a rookie..

C- oh god, this dude Posada is getting worse by the year. Call me crazy but I have a great idea!! I tired to call the Yankees but they didn't call me back. :D Sign Bengie Molina since his price tag has gone down. make him our everyday catcher and DH Posada, bench Bernie. what do you think?

Yankees Picthing is older than president Bush, I mean the 1st president Bush.. :D

Randy- will bounce back but not be as good as before. I hope he can get us 17 wins with this lineup.

Moose- um, when is his contract up...14 wins maybe

Wang- not sure, i like the kid but isn't very overpowering or tricky, mayb 12 wins

Pavano- hope he bounces back and get us at least 14 wins, not sure if he will tho.

Chacon- I think this kid will be very good for us this year, he's only 28 and did great last year in big games. going 7-3 with a 2.85 ERA.

Bullpen loosk ok on paper but has too many unproven guys except MR Mariano...

Nope A, I wasnt at the bar at all. Well this weekend but that is every weekend :D

I am way to tired to go through every position, dont you ever work????

You just wait and see where we go this year. Your lineup of all stars will by far win over 100 games but it will not get you the title with that pitching staff. Should make for an interesting year.

I hope the Red Sox get a good player for David "Fat Boy" Wells.

We want Dave Roberts!!! :D

Welp the Boston radio station just reported that the deal for Crisp is off because Mota faile dhis physical. :egads:

No clue where this leaves us now? God we just cant do anything right right now. :mad:

Crisp's numbers were almost identical to Damon's last year. He would of been a perfect pick up

Welp the Boston radio station just reported that the deal for Crisp is off because Mota faile dhis physical. :egads:

No clue where this leaves us now? God we just cant do anything right right now. :mad:


I'm sure Epstein will replace Mota with another player and make the trade go through.

The trade will go through. :)

We all know they exist, its not like you let us forget ...LOL...But when saying its going to be hard to dethrone the Whitsox I guess I read that as you saying they will be there again next year..I think anyone would read it that way..The great thing about the AL is their is no lock. I think the Yanks, A's and Whitesox's are the front runners tho. Stop taking everything wriiten about the Whitesox to heart. They played great and won the title(for the 1st time in 100 years or so) Whitesox fans should stay humble until they can win more than 1 title every Century, Redsox fans too.. :D...Remember you were in the same place the Cubs are now just last year. Waiting for a title. As Yankee fans you have to understand we get used to winning almost every year and being in the classic to fight for it every year aswell even if we lose we are used to being there. We have a different way of thinking, you guys wouldn't understand :D

Who's taking things to heart, trying to continually explain yourself. And thinking that no one else can understand? What's that BS? Ever heard of the Bulls, Red Wings, Patriots, Cowboys, etc.? Besides Mattingly's whole career you guys really didn't do much, so it's not like you've ALWAYS been there each and every year either, and Mattingly played quite a long time.

I think your interpretation of "dethrone" vs "guarantee that they'll be in the WS again" leaves a bit to be desired. I seriously doubt anyone else took it that way. Like in any sport, the Champion is the Champion and they are one of the favorites unless they pull a Florida Marlins fire sale concept, which didn't happen with the CWS. The way some Yankee and Red Sox fans talk you'd think there were only 2 teams in baseball.

Maybe if you didn't talk to non-Yankee fans in such a demeaning manner we wouldn't respond as such. Think about it. Yes, you have all your titles and that should be commended, no doubt about it! But to demean the rest of the league because you're the YANKEES and you have the most titles (even though you haven't won in years), well.... :thumbdn:

Best of luck in '06 since you're going to need it.

Besides we only win once every 88 years, so damn it! I'm gonna milk it for all it's worth and if you don't like it.....Tough! LOL! :p

LOL Damn White preach on preah con.

Seriously though bro, Blue is just very passionate about his stupid Yankees. I am a very passionate about the Sox so if we offended you then at least I apologize.

Now for your White Sox, they whopped up on us last year so we are coming for ya this year.

Let's not get personal in these threads, if we do it will be a long long season LOL.

Same here. White Tiger, if I offended you, then my apologizes. And yes, you guys are the defending World Champs!!! :thumbup:

But bluelex did not mean any harm. He is just a Yankee fan who loves his team. And you love your White Sox and I love Coco to come to the Red Sox ASAP!!! :D

One thing we can all agree upon is this--It is going to be one hell of a season!!! :thumbup:

No offense taken guys, just some heated baseball chat. Like I posted, we only win once every 88 years so I gotta get while the gettin's good...LOL!

Hey Guys, no offense was taken and no apologies are needed we aren't attacking each other or name calling just some heated baseball talk. Thats what this forum is about..I'm so happy we have this forum for this type of stuff.

Ed loves His Whitesox, J and mygs3 love thier Redsox, And Bone(86) :) loves his Mets and we all know how much I love my Yankees. Nothing wrong with that. We all think our team is going to take this year, we're suppose to. We all have good teams well mayb not the Redsox but most of us have really good teams..lol...Ed just didn't like that we were talking about the the R-Sox and Yanks and left out his defending champs W-Sox (who will be tough to beat)

All I know is Pitchers and catchers in a few weeks. I guess the Yanks will have the walking canes ready for when our staff arrives...LOL

The Redsoxs have gone Koo Koo for Coco Crisp !! I've been out of it the last couple days moving furniture. I just read today that they got the deal done. I'm telling you Theo is the man.

Padres get Piazza. I know he wanted to go back to the West Coast but he really should have signed with an AL team so he can DH 70 games a year.

The Redsox get their man for SS its (please walk me) Alex Gonzalez. I can't believe you guys gave this guy $3 million....

A I was so mad we signed thi sguy but when I saw we only gave him 3 million for one year I wasnt so upset. With the monster he should be as productive as reteria was. His glove is as good as anyone in the league. I am happy with the one year deal we gave him.

A I was so mad we signed thi sguy but when I saw we only gave him 3 million for one year I wasnt so upset. With the monster he should be as productive as reteria was. His glove is as good as anyone in the league. I am happy with the one year deal we gave him.


What !!! This guy can't get the ball out of the infield...LOL forget the Monster..But for real a 1 year deal wasn't bad lets you leave it open for a summer trade or off season move. I think you guys will be active at the trade deadline but do you guys have any chips left?

Wow the Blue Jays just got stronger today with the signing of Bengie Molina to be their catcher for one year at $5 Million. Great move by them, this team is starting to look scary in this tough AL East Division.

A, Molina is not much of an upgrade of Zaun in my opinion, hi soffensive numbers were a fluke last year and Zaun was a pretty good defensive catcher. In no way does this move make them scary. They will stil finish behind us in the East.

I don't agree J, I think Molina is a big upgrade over Zaun. He's a good receiver and can put the bat on ball very well..

wow, didn't even know that this part of CL existed. i guess my brain has been restricted to clubhouse life only :uh: and to think, i thought that after this past season, maybe donald went into hiding :D

i'm likin the thread. what prompted me to even find this thread was i saw that someone was talking about baseball offseason moves, and after the molina signing, the blue jays will be to mlb predictors this year what the arizona cardinals were to nfl predictors last year. (not saying the result will be the same). you've gotta like what the blue jays are trying to do. i think what they're doin and what the mets are doing are similar in many ways. BUT, i think that the jays are spending a lot of money on more unproven talent, whereas the mets are at least getting more people with a track record.

now, i love jabbin with redsox fans, and i hope it doesn't happen because the rivalry has been so great the last few years but, i'm thinkin that the yanks have a clear edge this year,and if everything pans out well for the jays, them and the sox'll be battling it out for 2nd and 3rd place. i just picked up the sporting news baseball preview (if you can't tell, i'm really chompin at the bit for the season to begin). no one in there even picks the yanks to go to the series, let alone win it. it's pretty much all white sox/indians, and cardinals. i like that. yes, we as yankee fans expect to win each year, but this year, the media (so far) doesn't expect us to win, which will maybe make for (slightly) less pressure. i'm big on performances on the big stage, so i'm nervous about farnsworth (and curious to see how brad lidge rebounds for that matter). but, cashman did what he set out to do this offseason: keep matsui, get a cf/leadoff man, and improve the middle relief. so, the pieces are there. now it's time to see if it'll work out.

Welcome Twentyone- I still don't think a lot of people who love sports here on CL know about this new forum we got going. Maybe a small anouncement would have been good for CL-ers to all know its here. A fellow Yankee fan who knows sports in refreshing to see instead of fans who write "kill em", "sweep" "homer every at bat". Your right about noone picking the Yanks to win or go deep in the playoffs cuz of our starting pitching which honestly is very old. We here about the Whitesox's Indians and A's with good reasons cuz they have greatr teams but I also like the fact the Yankees aren't expexted to win, maybe it will be like 96 when we snuck up on everyone and took teh series. I hope at least.

Pitchers and Catchers in about a week right?!!!!!!!!!!!! :woohoo:

Pitchers and Catchers in about a week right?!!!!!!!!!!!! :woohoo:

i think technically it's less than a week now. :woot:

you hit the nail on the head though. it'd be nice if it was like 96 and we snuck up on 'em. and yeah, the rotation is gettin up there in years, but we've got depth (as long as chacon and small don't show they're flukes), and looks like it's either houston or us as far as gettin the rocket. if that happens, i think we may trade somehow. also, ny newsday was sayin that if astros tank and we don't get clemens, we may trade for pettite, whose contract is really backloaded. wouldn't that be somethin?

i think this year j.wright or c.pavano has to do step up. considering the years they had last year, it would be huge. (fingers crossed)

wow, didn't even know that this part of CL existed. i guess my brain has been restricted to clubhouse life only :uh: and to think, i thought that after this past season, maybe donald went into hiding :D

i'm likin the thread. what prompted me to even find this thread was i saw that someone was talking about baseball offseason moves, and after the molina signing, the blue jays will be to mlb predictors this year what the arizona cardinals were to nfl predictors last year. (not saying the result will be the same). you've gotta like what the blue jays are trying to do. i think what they're doin and what the mets are doing are similar in many ways. BUT, i think that the jays are spending a lot of money on more unproven talent, whereas the mets are at least getting more people with a track record.

now, i love jabbin with redsox fans, and i hope it doesn't happen because the rivalry has been so great the last few years but, i'm thinkin that the yanks have a clear edge this year,and if everything pans out well for the jays, them and the sox'll be battling it out for 2nd and 3rd place. i just picked up the sporting news baseball preview (if you can't tell, i'm really chompin at the bit for the season to begin). no one in there even picks the yanks to go to the series, let alone win it. it's pretty much all white sox/indians, and cardinals. i like that. yes, we as yankee fans expect to win each year, but this year, the media (so far) doesn't expect us to win, which will maybe make for (slightly) less pressure. i'm big on performances on the big stage, so i'm nervous about farnsworth (and curious to see how brad lidge rebounds for that matter). but, cashman did what he set out to do this offseason: keep matsui, get a cf/leadoff man, and improve the middle relief. so, the pieces are there. now it's time to see if it'll work out.

I'm still here buddy!!! It's nice to see you again!!! :D :)

i think technically it's less than a week now. :woot:

you hit the nail on the head though. it'd be nice if it was like 96 and we snuck up on 'em. and yeah, the rotation is gettin up there in years, but we've got depth (as long as chacon and small don't show they're flukes), and looks like it's either houston or us as far as gettin the rocket. if that happens, i think we may trade somehow. also, ny newsday was sayin that if astros tank and we don't get clemens, we may trade for pettite, whose contract is really backloaded. wouldn't that be somethin?

i think this year j.wright or c.pavano has to do step up. considering the years they had last year, it would be huge. (fingers crossed)

I hate to tell you but Pavano still cannot throw off the mound. It looks like his injury was serious.

Mussina, Wang, and the other pitchers need to stay healthy.

The Yankees' have the greatest hitting team in the history of baseball. And Cano will have an excellent year. I predict him to have 30 homers, 30 steals, and around 85 RBIs.

Johnny Damon posted an ad in the Boston Globe. But why is he thanking the Red Sox fans two months after being traded? The timing is a bit odd. :uh:

Couldn't he post an ad in the same week when he was traded? Oh well.

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I hate to tell you but Pavano still cannot throw off the mound. It looks like his injury was serious.



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that sucks to hear about CP. i haven't heard that anywhere. you sure that's not red sox nation wishful thinking? i'm on newsday.com and yankees.com daily, and haven't seen anything to that effect.

as far as that thank you letter by damon, i think they had that sort of thing in mind when they created the :uh: icon. :uh:

I hate to tell you but Pavano still cannot throw off the mound. It looks like his injury was serious.



you've haunted me with this one donald, but i finally found a piece of information that states pavano is ok. i wasn't exactly looking for it,but i came across it when reading ny newsday:

"Pavano, who was shut down for the season in August, has been throwing regularly in Tampa, Torre said, but hasn't pitched from a mound yet.

"All of the reports point to the fact that he's fine, and he's been throwing," Torre said. "Hopefully, it stays that way."

so maybe, just maybe, pavano is ok. now, if he can just have a decent season....

Pitchers and Catchers in a couple days... :woot:

Do you guys think there will be any last second major spring moves by any teams? anything your reading?

Sosa- only offer is a non-guaranteed, one-year pact for $500,000 from the Washington Nationals..LOL from $17 million to $500k in 1 year. Noone else has even offered a major league deal. I would have liked to have seen him reach 600 homers, he's at 588 right now..

Any News out there?

I was reading on rotorworld that Pavano did have to see a specialist about his back and got a clean bill of health, but it still isnt to optimistic to be visiting a back specialist a week before you report to spring training.

As for moves, not really sure what to expect. I think with the Sox they are going to wait till the pitchers and catchers report to see where we stand. If people are in good health and shape then I say we go for another bat possibly. If not we get some pitching because we still have to move Wells and Graff.

Ya J, I'm not really liking the fact he's still seeing Doctors right before spring training but better safe than sorry. As long as he can hopfully be ready for the the start of the season.

TAMPA, Fla. -- It has been six years since the Yankees celebrated a World Series title, but the Bronx Bombers are ready to put an end to their championship drought in 2006.

It all begins today, as 33 pitchers and eight catchers report to Legends Field to officially kick off Spring Training.

"If you don't have those kinds of dreams right now," said manager Joe Torre, "I don't know when you'd have them."

Workouts won't begin until Friday, when the starting pitchers will line up in a row on the bullpen mounds for the ultimate spring photo opportunity.

The Yankees bring back their entire rotation from 2005, led by Randy Johnson. The Big Unit is looking to improve upon his 17-win season of a year ago, hoping that his second season in pinstripes will be a big one.

"Seventeen wins is good, but I expect more this year," Johnson said. "I want to show people I still have the stuff."



Though the rotation features no new faces, the bullpen is loaded with pinstriped newcomers, including Kyle Farnsworth, Ron Villone, Octavio Dotel and Mike Myers. Mariano Rivera, Tanyon Sturtze and Aaron Small return to round out the bullpen.

Position players report on Tuesday, Feb. 21, with the first full-squad workout set to take place the following day, though several hitters will work out over the next week at the Yankees' training complex across the street from the ballpark.

:woot: :woohoo: :D :thumbup:

just when you thought it was safe.....

Pavano hurting again
Recurring back pain to keep him off mound for at least 10 days

BY JIM BAUMBACH
STAFF CORRESPONDENT

February 16, 2006

TAMPA, Fla. -- The Yankees officially open spring training when pitchers and catchers report today, yet they already have their first injury concern.

Yesterday, the team told Carl Pavano, coming off a disappointing, injury-plagued first season in pinstripes, that a back specialist has recommended he should not throw off a mound for 10 to 14 days, putting his status for Opening Day in question.


Dr. Robert Watkins examined Pavano last Wednesday in Los Angeles. His written recommendation, which the Yankees received Tuesday, said Pavano should spend the next two weeks undergoing a back-strengthening program.

Pavano can still throw on flat ground, as he did yesterday for the fourth time this week, but the Yankees want him to follow Watkins' advice to keep his back from getting worse, especially after Pavano recently revealed that it bothered him all of last year.

That was news to the Yankees. General manager Brian Cashman said yesterday that Pavano complained about back stiffness only once last year, during spring training. But Pavano now believes his back problem contributed to the right shoulder discomfort that eventually ended his season.

Pavano's radar readings were down all season and he tired in games earlier than usual. He made his last start for the Yankees June 27 and was shut down for good in August. Yesterday, he said he regretted not having his back injury healed last spring.

"That's why I'm taking the right approach now," Pavano said. "Last year I came into a situation where you want to impress with all the expectations and you try to be a hero, but look where it got me. So why let history repeat itself and make that mistake again? Let's do the right thing now, move forward, put it behind us and keep going."

Pavano told the Yankees last week that his back felt stiff after a throwing session, causing them to send him west to see Watkins. Pavano said yesterday that the stiffness is on the lower left side of his back, his landing side, where he felt it last season.

"It kind of locks up everything and makes it hard to push off and land," said Pavano, who at 30 is entering the second season of a four-year, $39.95-million contract. " ... Last year was a battle from the get-go."

Cashman declined to be specific about the injury, saying only that it's not a structural issue. This latest development also hurts any chance of trading Pavano, who must prove he can still be the pitcher who went 18-8 with a 3.00 ERA in 222 1/3 innings for the Marlins in 2004.

Pavano will be at least two weeks behind the rest of the Yankees' starters. When Cashman was asked if Pavano's status for the start of the season is in question, he paused and said, "We'll see. I haven't mapped it out yet."

Pavano said, "That's a long ways ... I don't expect this to go forever."

Manager Joe Torre added, "When he's ready, we'll be ready. If it has to be after the season starts, schedule-wise we don't need a [fifth] starter for two weeks, anyway."

So at least for now, the Yankees no longer have to think about which of their six starters coming into camp will have to start the season in the bullpen. If Pavano was healthy, however, Torre said he will always be a part of his rotation.

"Let's put it this way," Torre said. "When he's healthy, he's a starter."

When Pavano will be healthy, though, is unknown.

"Things like this happen, you know," Pavano said. "If you want to move forward and keep playing, you have to make the adjustments. This is one of those times."

Yup, here we go again with Pavano. I just read today in the NY dailynews that he won't be throwing off a mound until match 1st now..Geeez :(

Yup, here we go again with Pavano. I just read today in the NY dailynews that he won't be throwing off a mound until match 1st now..Geeez :(

he needs to be healthy..... so he looks better on the trading block :D

there are sources in NY that really think it's likely that pettite can return if the 'stros are having
a bad season. i'm holdin out hope for that one. clemens..... that's not gonna happen

One more day Wohoooooooooooooooo. :woot:

Man I cant wait to see how the guys look. I am really excited about this year. How about Beckett already down there working out, the kid is a winner. Schill should be ready for 20 wins and maybe a cy young and who the hell knows about Foulke. If he doesnt look good Theo needs to move to get another closer.

Pavano, yup you guys were taking a shot on him when you signed him. Unproven and unhealthy at times. This is what you got. The kid just cant stay healthy. Hopefully the rest of the geriatric (sp?) rotation will be in good health. :p

J are you kidding me. schilling 20 wins? man if he gets you 16 wins this year consider yourself lucky.

he needs to be healthy..... so he looks better on the trading block :D

there are sources in NY that really think it's likely that pettite can return if the 'stros are having
a bad season. i'm holdin out hope for that one. clemens..... that's not gonna happen

I'm just not sure if Pettite would want to return to the Bronz Zoo. He's in such a peacefull place now. Than again he did want to catch Whitey Ford for alltime wins by a yankess pitcher. I think he was pretty close..

J are you kidding me. schilling 20 wins? man if he gets you 16 wins this year consider yourself lucky.

LOL Ok A you watch. You really think he doesnt want to show everyone that last year was because of an injury and he still has what it takes to get it done. The guy is the utmost professional, you'll see in due time, you'll see.

yeah, we did take a chance on pavano. at least right now we still have the luxury of not having to force him along. on a small scale, same thing that we can do with octavio dotel. there is some age in the staff but, we've got more capable arms so that if anything remotely close to last year happens, we got more that can step in, without hittin the waiver wire so hard. plus, as of today, we signed.......... scott erickson to a minor league contract (sounds like giambi sold that one) :sad:

you two seem to have more of a repoire. i woulda thought that lex11 woulda saw it as the red sox hater in me if i woulda commented on schill getting 20 wins, but, i did raise a brow when i saw that. schill may get back to more of what we expect out of him but, 20 wins is tough to get nowadays, without even factoring in his age. i think even if he gets 15/16, with a decent era, you guys should be happy with that.

if i recall correctly, pettite didn't leave the bronx on bad terms. part of it was money, part of it was the allure of playing in houston and the other part was clemens' influence. he was pretty cool with the core that was there when he won all his rings though (jeter, posada, bernie) and he could easily catch some unit-itis. (you've won some rings, but don't wanna go out playing for a loser). pettite isn't OLD right now, but, he's turning 34 this year. i don't know where you all stand on the consensus of an old pitcher but, i'd say pettite's got 5 more GOOD years, max. (moose turns 38 this year and i know he doesn't have too much left in his tank)

fyi, whitey ford has 236 career yankee wins. pettite with 149. so..... 87 wins difference. divided by 5 years=17.5. based off pettite's performance last year, that's realistic. on the far end of realistic but, realisitc.

fyi, whitey ford has 236 career yankee wins. pettite with 149. so..... 87 wins difference. divided by 5 years=17.5. based off pettite's performance last year, that's realistic. on the far end of realistic but, realisitc.

I thought he was closer than that, had he stayed with the yanks he would have gotten the all time yankees win record, not sure even if he returns if he would be able to get it. Also if I remmeber right Pettite did leave with a small frown on his face cuz the yanks didn't want to pay him after all he did for this team and we also claimed worries about his elbow as reason for not wanting to go with a 4 year deal which is what he wanted. George still has siad many times publically that he messed up on that one..

Do you guys think there will be any last second major spring moves by any teams? anything your reading?

Sosa- only offer is a non-guaranteed, one-year pact for $500,000 from the Washington Nationals..LOL from $17 million to $500k in 1 year. Noone else has even offered a major league deal. I would have liked to have seen him reach 600 homers, he's at 588 right now..

Any News out there?


It now looks like Manny will be staying with the Red Sox. Manny was not traded because the Red Sox could not find equal value for Manny.

Sosa is lucky to have one ballclub offer him $500K. After all, he hit only .221 and missed many (I forgot how many) games last season.

David Wells wants to go to a West Coast team. Theo Epstein plans to meet with Wells during Spring Training. I think Wells will go to a West Coast team.

Mike Mussina is in his final year as a Yankee. There has been no plans for a contract extension. I think that the Yankees do not plan on re-signing him. I see them going after a younger guy like Zito or Mulder. Both Zito and Mulder will be free agents after the 2006 season.

Oh, and Albert Belle has been accused of stalking his ex-girlfriend! :D

I was reading on rotorworld that Pavano did have to see a specialist about his back and got a clean bill of health, but it still isnt to optimistic to be visiting a back specialist a week before you report to spring training.

As for moves, not really sure what to expect. I think with the Sox they are going to wait till the pitchers and catchers report to see where we stand. If people are in good health and shape then I say we go for another bat possibly. If not we get some pitching because we still have to move Wells and Graff.


The Red Sox did not plan on keeping Graff. But Graff accepted arbitration which surprised many people.

The Red Sox wanted to trade Wells to San Diego for Roberts but San Diego backed off.

Ya J, I'm not really liking the fact he's still seeing Doctors right before spring training but better safe than sorry. As long as he can hopfully be ready for the the start of the season.


At least its good that the Yankees are not rushing with Pavano.

I think that the Yankees should let Pavano heal himself and take it one step at a time. Besides, the Yankees already have five other starters who are ready to go.

TAMPA, Fla. -- It has been six years since the Yankees celebrated a World Series title, but the Bronx Bombers are ready to put an end to their championship drought in 2006.

It all begins today, as 33 pitchers and eight catchers report to Legends Field to officially kick off Spring Training.

"If you don't have those kinds of dreams right now," said manager Joe Torre, "I don't know when you'd have them."

Workouts won't begin until Friday, when the starting pitchers will line up in a row on the bullpen mounds for the ultimate spring photo opportunity.

The Yankees bring back their entire rotation from 2005, led by Randy Johnson. The Big Unit is looking to improve upon his 17-win season of a year ago, hoping that his second season in pinstripes will be a big one.

"Seventeen wins is good, but I expect more this year," Johnson said. "I want to show people I still have the stuff."



Though the rotation features no new faces, the bullpen is loaded with pinstriped newcomers, including Kyle Farnsworth, Ron Villone, Octavio Dotel and Mike Myers. Mariano Rivera, Tanyon Sturtze and Aaron Small return to round out the bullpen.

Position players report on Tuesday, Feb. 21, with the first full-squad workout set to take place the following day, though several hitters will work out over the next week at the Yankees' training complex across the street from the ballpark.

:woot: :woohoo: :D :thumbup:

I think the Big Unit will have a better year.

Randy needed time to adjust to a big market city and organization. The same goes for Beltran of the Mets.

I think Randy will have a 19-7 record and an ERA of around 3.10.

Randy was 5-0 against the Red Sox last season. :mad:

he needs to be healthy..... so he looks better on the trading block :D

there are sources in NY that really think it's likely that pettite can return if the 'stros are having
a bad season. i'm holdin out hope for that one. clemens..... that's not gonna happen

I think Pavano is hurt more than is being reported in the media.

So the other Yankee pitchers need to step up.

One more day Wohoooooooooooooooo. :woot:

Man I cant wait to see how the guys look. I am really excited about this year. How about Beckett already down there working out, the kid is a winner. Schill should be ready for 20 wins and maybe a cy young and who the hell knows about Foulke. If he doesnt look good Theo needs to move to get another closer.

Pavano, yup you guys were taking a shot on him when you signed him. Unproven and unhealthy at times. This is what you got. The kid just cant stay healthy. Hopefully the rest of the geriatric (sp?) rotation will be in good health. :p


Jonathan R. Papelbon is going to have a huge season. Both him and Beckett are the future of the Red Sox.

ALL the other teams wanted Papelbon during trade talks with the Red Sox. Which shows how special he is. :)

What do you think of this shirt? :D

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Another exciting year of Red Sox vs. Yankees!!! :woohoo:

The Red Sox have the pitching.

The Yankees have the hitting.

The Red Sox have to beat the Yankees with pitching.

And Yankees have to beat the Red Sox with hitting.

And we have the White Sox and Oakland A's. Both the White Sox and A's are healthy.

Oh the drama is....................

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:D :D :D

Interesting, still too early to tell and much too much speculation. Give it a few weeks and I think the picture will become much clearer.

The key for the White Sox will be how they start, if they can get a nice streak to open the season it will set their attitude for the balance. A good start and watch out, there are still chemistry issues for both the Yanks (always something) and the Red Sox (Manny and no Damon), not that they can't deal with it, but it might be an issue, something that Ozzie keeps away from the South Siders.

I mean look how smooth his commnets and subsequent apology to A-Rod went re: the World Baseball Classic, the guy is a players manager 100%. If we ever let him go, like we did with LaRussa, I'm going to go back and shoot someone.

Jonathan R. Papelbon is going to have a huge season. Both him and Beckett are the future of the Red Sox.

ALL the other teams wanted Papelbon during trade talks with the Red Sox. Which shows how special he is. :)

What do you think of this shirt? :D

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Even as a Yanks fan, I have to agree with the shirt. Not to take anything away from the SAWX, but that series was much more the Yankees losing it than it was the Sox winning it.

But it's another year now. The past is past. The AL race should be tight once again.

I also am one that suspect Pavano is being positioned for potential trade options. With Cashman back in control of things, I see a movement to younger players. A return of sorts to the Yanks of 5-10 years ago when their farm system was unparalleled. Obviously, Steinbrenner's amassing of major stars under one banner strategy was a bust!

Pettite back on the Yanks? I have my doubts. Without someone like Clemens to continue to mentor Pettite he's nothing. He just doesn't have the mental fortitude to succeed completely on his own. Why do you think he went to the stros in the first place? he followed Clemens. If Clemens packs it in (again!), look for Pettite to struggle in every game he pitches.

Interesting, still too early to tell and much too much speculation. Give it a few weeks and I think the picture will become much clearer.

The key for the White Sox will be how they start, if they can get a nice streak to open the season it will set their attitude for the balance. A good start and watch out, there are still chemistry issues for both the Yanks (always something) and the Red Sox (Manny and no Damon), not that they can't deal with it, but it might be an issue, something that Ozzie keeps away from the South Siders.

I mean look how smooth his commnets and subsequent apology to A-Rod went re: the World Baseball Classic, the guy is a players manager 100%. If we ever let him go, like we did with LaRussa, I'm going to go back and shoot someone.


Hi there :)

Javier Vazquez is a very good pick up for your team. This guy can pitch 200 innings and put some pressure off of the other starters.

Is Jim Thome healthy? If he is, then I think he will have a good season. He gets to play in the season opener in no other than..................Cleveland. :cool:

It's going to be a great 2006 season. I cannot wait!!!

Even as a Yanks fan, I have to agree with the shirt. Not to take anything away from the SAWX, but that series was much more the Yankees losing it than it was the Sox winning it.

But it's another year now. The past is past. The AL race should be tight once again.

I also am one that suspect Pavano is being positioned for potential trade options. With Cashman back in control of things, I see a movement to younger players. A return of sorts to the Yanks of 5-10 years ago when their farm system was unparalleled. Obviously, Steinbrenner's amassing of major stars under one banner strategy was a bust!

Pettite back on the Yanks? I have my doubts. Without someone like Clemens to continue to mentor Pettite he's nothing. He just doesn't have the mental fortitude to succeed completely on his own. Why do you think he went to the stros in the first place? he followed Clemens. If Clemens packs it in (again!), look for Pettite to struggle in every game he pitches.


I agree with you--The AL race will be tight again.

It will be interesting what type of team Toronto will be.

Your team begins the season opener at Oakland. That should be a great series.

Cashman did the right thing by not trading Cano and Wang. Both of them are the present and future of the Yankees. I especially like Cano. I swear this guy will have an awesome 2006 season.

White:
i agree you guys will be tough again and even though I like Vazquez the last time he showed his grille in the AL he got crushed back to the NL. Maybe in Chitown he can not feel as much pressure as in Ny because he is talented and it would be a shame to repeat what he did in Ny.

Maybe in Chitown he can not feel as much pressure as in Ny because he is talented and it would be a shame to repeat what he did in Ny.

Maybe, but one never knows until "crunch time". Both Vasquez and Thome are question marks and it will be interesting to see how they play and mesh with the rest of the team. If we start slow it could be a long season.

Don't you love spring training !!!!! ???????

Ozzie is already bashing other team's players and talking up a storm of crap like always.

A-Rod is singing the "poor is me" song again that noone likes him and that "Thats OK" ya right !!

Damon is just Smiling at everyone. :egads: I don't think he even understands some of the questions sometimes..lol

WBC is falling apart with all these players dropping out.

Manny is late to camp and the redsox are playing it like they gave him permission when they really had to no choice.lol..Its just to cover up any mess wating to happen with manny this year.

Shef is already at it that he gets "no respect" bla bla as always. He just wants his option for next year picked up than he'll be happy for a week.

Pedro, well what can you say about Pedro..LOL he is just Pedro !!

Tommy La sorda looked like a fool on the Dan patrick show last week saying thats it a shame that players are playing for contries they never were born in or even live in yet he forgot his favorite player Mike Piazza is playing for Italy when he was born here and never even visits, its just that the american team would pretty much have benched him so he decided to play for italy.Give me a break Tommy. so bias that guy.

Sammy is retired but not really, maby he thinks some team will have a change of heart. Goodbye Mr. I do pepsi commercials and speak good english when winning my MVP awards but "me no speak english good in front of congress about steroids" so needs a translator,Coward !! good riddens.

Bonds- I will not play next year, wait I had some lunh and now I will play next year but no more interviews unless you sign a waiver to be in my new tv show...called Bonds bigger than baseball.

I just love spring training... :p

If any of you baseball fans get a chance to watch the Mariners play check the rotation and try to go when Felix Hernandez is pitching. This kid is filthy, brings me back to the days when we would go watch Randy pitch in the kingdome. He's going to bring some excitement this year like Dontrell did a couple years back, get ready!

Besides, the Yankees already have five other starters who are ready to go.

i've been away for a looooong time. was just readin this and had to laugh, considerin the injury bug continues to hang around the bombers. we went from 7 starters for 5 spots to possibly needing to pull one up from the minors by the 15th (when we'll need a 5th starter). pavano (okay okay, i'll be a lil more patient), small (because of 10-0 last year you get a pass) and wright (omg please trade this guy), i hope this isn't the sign of what's to come this year. :sad:

If any of you baseball fans get a chance to watch the Mariners play check the rotation and try to go when Felix Hernandez is pitching. This kid is filthy, brings me back to the days when we would go watch Randy pitch in the kingdome. He's going to bring some excitement this year like Dontrell did a couple years back, get ready!

hernandez is the real deal. out here, they talk about the twins' liriano, who is supposed to be the next best thing since whatever. but, felix has him hands down.

posada with a broken nose. it just doesn't stop....

"There's no loyalty for me other than the Florida Gators, my high school, the Orlando Magic, the Tampa Bay Bucs, and, of course, the New York Yankees."

that's damon's quote after sox/yanks the other day. at least now we know where his love lies throughout sports.....

Baltimore Orioles; they got Kris Benson...They also got Anna. :woot:

God I can't wait for the season to start. Arod hasn't gotten a hit this spring yet. Shef is batting .077 :eek2: I hated the jaret wright signing last year and I still hate it now. maybe next year I'll like it...lol.

I am a Yankee fan to the heart, but something this season just doesn't sit right with me...:sad:


At least we know Boston won't be any better, LOL. Maybe its time to give the O's/Jays a shot, we all know the Devil Rays will never amount to anything besides being good at only beating the Yanks/Sox. :egads:

At least we know Boston won't be any better, LOL. Maybe its time to give the O's/Jays a shot, we all know the Devil Rays will never amount to anything besides being good at only beating the Yanks/Sox.

No better??? Added big game pitcher in beckett, three gold glove infielders speed and recentlly a huge bat, so we shouldnt be any better lol.

Jared Wright looks good for you guys and do you really think Small is going to go 10-0 again doubt it. Should be interesting to see what takes place this year.

Jared Wright looks good for you guys and do you really think Small is going to go 10-0 again doubt it. Should be interesting to see what takes place this year.

i think you're seeing jaret wright looking good because you're a sox fan, and seeing yankee pitchers being shelled FEELS good. wright's been tagged pretty good this spring, especially compared to the rest of the staff.

after doing the unthinkable and actually visiting the red sox site to see their roster, i think that when you look at all the additions and subtractions that the 06 redsox team isn't better than the 05 one. beckett may have big game pitcher on his resume, but he's still (pretty much) a .500 lifetime pitcher (41-34). not saying that i think that it's a bad thing. if not for the run at the end of last season you guys woulda won the division, and you still made the playoffs. boomer and clement's years will be critical to your success or lack thereof, pretty similar to our situation. as always, you go as your arms go.

i think you're seeing jaret wright looking good because you're a sox fan, and seeing yankee pitchers being shelled FEELS good. wright's been tagged pretty good this spring, especially compared to the rest of the staff.

after doing the unthinkable and actually visiting the red sox site to see their roster, i think that when you look at all the additions and subtractions that the 06 redsox team isn't better than the 05 one. beckett may have big game pitcher on his resume, but he's still (pretty much) a .500 lifetime pitcher (41-34). not saying that i think that it's a bad thing. if not for the run at the end of last season you guys woulda won the division, and you still made the playoffs. boomer and clement's years will be critical to your success or lack thereof, pretty similar to our situation. as always, you go as your arms go.

Don't worry about it man, The Redsox could sign Jeff Bagwell to play 1st and DH and Jeff would think its a great move and than drop the follwing line " He came to camp in great shape, He's in for a big year!!" "Theo does it again"

He said that to me after the Sox picked up Jaun "Good years be Gone" Gonzalez last week. Than they trade for Willy Mo(strikeouts than hits) Pena. :D

Willy Mo(strikeouts than hits) Pena. :D

if someone from sportscenter is on CL, i would imagine we'll hear this one on SC before the year is out. if so, i think the royalty check should be split 50/50 with bluelex considering if i didn't make my post, he woulda never posted that response. :thumbup: :D

A,
I havent even talked to you in like 3 weeks bro. Juan Gone is literally gone. I agree Wily Mo strikes out a ton but if he ever learns patietence from Papi or Manny thi skid could be deadly. Could be is a tough thing to swallow though.

i see julian tavarez is showing his need for anger management classes. between him and kyle farnsworth, red sox/yanks will have plenty of possibilities of erupting :D

i see julian tavarez is showing his need for anger management classes. between him and kyle farnsworth, red sox/yanks will have plenty of possibilities of erupting

This kid is a total idiot. I really dont know what to expect from him other than these stupid antics.
How about Beckett though huh? Guy looks so good, god is he a stud.
He is just a little better than the guy you Yanks picked up from Florida eh? ;)

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How about Beckett though huh? Guy looks so good, god is he a stud.
He is just a little better than the guy you Yanks picked up from Florida eh? ;)

Oh God, his ERA is over 5.00 this spring, please one good outing against the phillies wait till he gets up to fenway and those short porches to right and left with DH's. You'll be lucky if his era is under 4 this year. And wow Schilling looks great huh J? All this crap about paplebon and his era is close to 6.00 schilling is around 9.00 and wells is close to 12.00. Good luck this year.

A,
You and I both know that stats dont mean anything down in Florida. Unforunately since we became friends you have become more and more like the typical Yankee fan. You used to have reason but that went out the window a long time ago. Does it have anything to do with havign the highest pay roll the last 3 years and the only records you guys have set is for losing 4 games ina row to us which no one has ever done? Or is it because you guys arent the force you used to be and cant get it done in the playoffs anymore??

Either way you guys will have a huuuuuuuuuuuuge year offensively and the unit should win a bundle of games but after that the Yankees are nothing and I gurantee, mark my words they will not win the world series.
I am not saying we will but at least I cann see that.

Typical Red Sox fan, always worried about when the Yankees are winning or lack there of instead of worrying about your team. Its always like "Yes we might not win the series this year But I know you won't either" talk. We shall see my good man, we shall see.

LET'S GO DODGERS!!!
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**GAME OVER!!** Welcome To The Jungle**

god I cant wait!! :egads: :woohoo:

that's Eric Gagne incase you didnt know :woohoo:

Oh God, his ERA is over 5.00 this spring, please one good outing against the phillies wait till he gets up to fenway and those short porches to right and left with DH's. You'll be lucky if his era is under 4 this year. And wow Schilling looks great huh J? All this crap about paplebon and his era is close to 6.00 schilling is around 9.00 and wells is close to 12.00. Good luck this year.

i think beckett's eclipsed how many innings we got outta pavano last year just in his spring training innings alone :thumbdn:

not to get in the heat of you two's mini-spat or anything but, just had to chime in my .02

dodger fans inserting pics in this thread is a total buzzkill

i think beckett's eclipsed how many innings we got outta pavano last year just in his spring training innings alone




Pavano actually pitched today. Gave up a homerun LOL :D he went one full inning allowing a solo homer. Well its a start I guess. :egads:

i think beckett's eclipsed how many innings we got outta pavano last year just in his spring training innings alone

Seriously!
You cant even compare the two. At least Pavano shows he remembers how to toe the rubber still LMAO :D

So friggin pumped right now only 6 days till we open up in Texas. Cant wait to see what we are made of. Lots of questions to be answered. Should be exciting first week. :woot:

Seriously!
You cant even compare the two. At least Pavano shows he remembers how to toe the rubber still LMAO :D

So friggin pumped right now only 6 days till we open up in Texas. Cant wait to see what we are made of. Lots of questions to be answered. Should be exciting first week. :woot:

we're not fired up about the same team, but, we're both fired up about the same thing.... the countdown continues....

Seriously!
You cant even compare the two. At least Pavano shows he remembers how to toe the rubber still LMAO :D



no sooner than we speak, pavano injures his back in that first outing back on that dive to first base, and pushes his comeback back even further :egads:

The kid is damaged goods. Like Kevin Brown was, like Vasquez was, like Wright was so on and so on lol lol lol lol.

4 days to go!!!!


Apr. 3rd is a great night! I get to watch 24 at 9pm, then flip back and forth between the Yanks season opener @ OAK (10:05 start) and the NCAA finals!!

Well with the season upon Us I'm going make my early predictions...

NL East

Mets (91-71)
I think this is finally the year where the Mets put it all together. They added Big bats and added great Bullpen help. This team will be either really good or suck bad, They've done the suck part for a long time so I think they'll be really good. I think the Phillies and Braves will give them a run for the title but the Mets have enough to hold them off imo.

NL Central

Cards (93-69)
I can't see anyone else really stepping up, so Its kind of by defualt. The Cubs aces are on the DL again and they have no offense. The Reds look interesting but I'm not sure if they are ready. The Astros won't have the Rocket. Milwaukee and Pittsburgh will fight for last.

NL West

Padres (83-79)
With maybe a .500 record I was thinking the Ginats or Maybe Dodgers but the Padres have the best pitching to win this division.

Wild Card

Phillies (90-72)
Team has lots of potential, maybe they can put it all together. Good Lineup, Decent Pitching.

AL East

Yankees (98-64)
Pitching is iffy but will come together by mid summer and you know a big trade will probably happen when other teams fall out the race. With that Lineup they will dominate if healthy.

AL Central

Whitesox ( 98-64)
They win the series and instead breaking up the team like the dumb sox did the year the before they actually added pitching and a Big bat. This team is scary and if they get homefield advantage it could be tough.

AL West

Oakland ( 91-71)
They have the Best pitching in the AL, they have a Very nice lineup and if the Big Hurt (BIG IF) can give them .265 26 HR and 85 RBI they will win the division.

Wild Card

Red Sox (92-70)
IF there picthing staff stays healhty, IF Shcilling can be dominate again,IF Coco works out after never hitting lead off in his life, IF Lowe finds his stroke again, IF any production come from 1st base besides defense, IF Foulke can close like he did in 2004, IF IF IF. too many IFs makes them the Wildcard in my book. BUT if all these IFs come to Fact, they could be great and win a 100 games. Probably won't happen :)

Officially started a new thread with real season talk and predictions, Check it out and throw your input. http://www.clublexus.com/forums/showthread.php?t=209290