i was looking to get a supra within the next few months. i did some searching on autotrader.com and come across a few. but my question is that one company got a supra for $80,000 already producing 1000 hp and have 8,400 for the oringal miles. Me personal i cant see myself spending that much money on a 1998 but i was thinking, if i get a supra that around mid to low 30's and what if i want 1000hp would it come out to be the same amount of money as the $80,000 supra? i know this is not a supra forum, but there forum is down and i notice a few members on here own supra's. so if anybody have some time i would like for y'all to check them out and give me some insight. another thing how much u think i can talk someone down on these cars? would it be hard to because these cars are rare especially the 97 98 6spd twin turbo models? i was leaning more towards the white or sliver one ( i think they are from the same dealership, the white one is $40k with 28k miles on it and the sliver is $35K with 61K miles on it) thanks :D

here is the supra that 80k

http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?car_id=195112768&dealer_id=56047306&car_year=1998&model=SUPRA&bkms=1137261901191&lang=&isp=y&start_year=1997&certified=&search_type=both&distance=0&make=TOYOTA&min_price=1000&sponsorModel=&address=19067&advanced=&end_year=2006&max_price=90000&cardist=2365

here are the supra's i was considering to buy

http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?car_id=192675084&dealer_id=56487484&car_year=1998&model=SUPRA&bkms=1137261901191&lang=&isp=y&start_year=1997&certified=&search_type=both&distance=0&make=TOYOTA&min_price=1000&sponsorModel=&address=19067&advanced=&end_year=2006&max_price=90000&cardist=194

http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?car_id=190773004&dealer_id=570931&car_year=1998&model=SUPRA&bkms=1137261901191&lang=&isp=y&start_year=1997&certified=&search_type=both&distance=0&make=TOYOTA&min_price=1000&sponsorModel=&address=19067&advanced=&end_year=2006&max_price=90000&cardist=2522

http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?car_id=190634084&dealer_id=57030475&car_year=1998&model=SUPRA&bkms=1137261901191&lang=&isp=y&start_year=1997&certified=&search_type=both&distance=0&make=TOYOTA&min_price=1000&sponsorModel=&address=19067&advanced=&end_year=2006&max_price=90000&cardist=485

http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?car_id=194729489&dealer_id=57347614&car_year=1998&model=SUPRA&bkms=1137261901191&lang=&isp=y&start_year=1997&certified=&search_type=both&distance=0&make=TOYOTA&min_price=1000&sponsorModel=&address=19067&advanced=&end_year=2006&max_price=90000&cardist=1453

http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?car_id=191060055&dealer_id=47802768&car_year=1997&search_type=both&make=TOYOTA&distance=0&model=SUPRA&sponsorModel=&address=19067&certified=&advanced=&max_price=90000&bkms=1137261901191&min_price=1000&end_year=2006&start_year=1997&isp=y&lang=&cardist=701

http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?car_id=194705914&dealer_id=57345901&car_year=1998&search_type=both&make=TOYOTA&distance=0&model=SUPRA&sponsorModel=&address=19067&certified=&advanced=&max_price=90000&bkms=1137261901191&min_price=1000&end_year=2006&start_year=1997&isp=y&lang=&cardist=2388

http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?car_id=192020394&dealer_id=47802768&car_year=1998&search_type=both&make=TOYOTA&distance=0&model=SUPRA&sponsorModel=&address=19067&certified=&advanced=&max_price=90000&bkms=1137261901191&min_price=1000&end_year=2006&start_year=1997&isp=y&lang=&cardist=701

http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?rdpage=thumb&car_id=195216291&dealer_id=57386720&car_year=1997&search_type=both&make=TOYOTA&distance=0&model=SUPRA&sponsorModel=&address=19067&certified=&advanced=&max_price=90000&bkms=1137261901191&min_price=1000&end_year=2006&start_year=1997&isp=y&lang=&cardist=2450

the thing is i kinda want it to be stock so i can pick and choose what performance parts i want for my car. the second thing is color really don't matter because im going to paint it black ( or lexus graphite) and lay down black carpet, sparco miliano racing seats, and stock supra mats. My last question would you reconmend a tachometer for this car? it's gonna be a weekend driving car, i don't want the supra to look too "ricey" i want the interior to look clean as possible along with the exterior. i just think a big as tach setting up on the dash kinda give it that "fast and the furious" look. but if it serves a big, big time purpose then i might consider it

Judging from how they are all really expensive, i'd say the red one... 4th link down with only 15,000 miles would be a good one if ur willing to shell out the $46,000. There are other ones with 55,000 miles going for more than that even. Also, the only aftermarket parts it has are rims, lowering springs, and sways. Looks like the engine is stock. Good luck.

thanks for the input, the ones i was looking at
is the red one u mention
the sliver one that have 61k on it going for $34k
and the white that has 28k on it going for $39k
the thing is i want an all stock supra so i can build it up my self but i was curious is it gonna be the same amount of money as buying the "high supra"? :confused:

I don't know why you would buy a supra that already has the 1000 horses. The fun of it is building it up yourself, customizing it and tuning it how you want it, not how somebody else has already done it..:uh:

i know what you mean, i was just curious on how people felt about paying that much for a supra. My idea was trying to find one bone stock as possible and work on it myself (well i don't do the work but u know what i mean) but is the price Negotiable even though these are some rare cars and how much u think they might take off

If you're getting all of the work done professionally it will come close to the 80k mark. My friend just sent his Supra to TX to be built to 1200-1300 hp at the cost of something like 42k. (I originally saw a check for 35k, but I guess the real number came closer to 42)

ok i kinda get an idea on how much it would be. only reason that high supra looks good because it only have 8,400 miles on it

I guess with any desire you command a price. I just can't see myself spending that kind of grip on anything with a toyota plate on it. I'd much rather sink my $80k into a used exotic than a used Yota.

Maybe it is just me, but as much as I love Yota...... I don't love it like that.

yea 80g's is high, dam for an extra $20 you can get a bently Gt :D but i guess after buying a car and then modding the hell out of it it's like the same difference. but i don't think anybody sit there and add all of this stuff up

imo for 80G i rather get like a used 911 turbo or put in some more for a used GT2. or R34 would be pretty rare also. or you can wait for the r35 end of this year.

imo for 80G i rather get like a used 911 turbo or put in some more for a used GT2. or R34 would be pretty rare also. or you can wait for the r35 end of this year.

believe me, for a 97 98 mkIV i don't want to spend no more the 35 for it. because i know im gonna dump a whole lot of money into it to get it the way i want

imo for 80G i rather get like a used 911 turbo or put in some more for a used GT2. or R34 would be pretty rare also. or you can wait for the r35 end of this year.

we live in PA.. we don't have R34's here... :cry:

but 80k for a supra is too much... and it's already someone else's project...

go with one of the ones you listed... they're all promising.

i'd personally go with the silver... because i like silver :D

yea r 34 are nice but i don't know about the wheel on the opposite side, im scraed i might run into something :rolleyes: but for the supra, color really don't matter because i want to paint it lexus graphite or even black
im just basically looking for the cheapest 97-98 6spd twin tubro mkIV out there and i think 34k is decent for 61k on the dash. but the main question is are the price negoitable? i mean everything is but since it's a rare car will people come down on the price

hey man, im very active in the supra community and believe me its not worth to invest 80 large on a highly modified car like that....get a stock 97 for about 35k and dump 20k in it and you will have 1000hp!!

hey man, im very active in the supra community and believe me its not worth to invest 80 large on a highly modified car like that....get a stock 97 for about 35k and dump 20k in it and you will have 1000hp!!

seriously :eek2: and i thought i would need to spend around 35k or more to produce those types of numbers

you can check out suprastore.com. they have a lot of different packages for the supra depending on the the different power you want. for 10Gs you can be putting down near 800whp. i think their best kit is 29G and its like a 3.5 motor fully built by titan i think.

http://suprastore.com/45suppac.html

and the 34k is a steal for 61k miles. i'd tag that! :thumbup:

I would luv a Supra also.. but man these cars hold there value even with 100+k miles on the car... Ebay has about 40 supras right now and the newer style 93+ are all above 20K... Maybe one day I'll have a supra or turbo SC.... Good Luck in your quest for a SUpra..

Tony

The little odds and ends of buildinga car is what makes it so expensive, it's so easy to say 10k-20k for 1000hp, but if you're going 6spd the clutch alone to hold such power is a $4500.00, that's before the installation. I was lucky to have a great shop in my backyard so I chose to build mine from scratch, however had I not had the option of being 5 miles from Titan I probably would have bought a reputable resale from SupraStore, WOTM, or Titan.

I couldnt see spending 80K all at once on a tuner car. Over time sure but not all at once. But then my income may be lower than yours which would give me a different perspecitive.

You could get a chevy C6 or even a Z06 for less, add aftermarket stuff and still come out cheaper with the C6, granted its not a supra but I think it has its own appeal

The little odds and ends of buildinga car is what makes it so expensive, it's so easy to say 10k-20k for 1000hp, but if you're going 6spd the clutch alone to hold such power is a $4500.00, that's before the installation. I was lucky to have a great shop in my backyard so I chose to build mine from scratch, however had I not had the option of being 5 miles from Titan I probably would have bought a reputable resale from SupraStore, WOTM, or Titan.

hey onelove, i know you from the supraforums....i just threw out a number, when i said 20k.....if one takes the time and does the right research....you could make a 1000hp within 20 large....lets see...


1750 for a used rps carbon carbon....saw one in supraforums for sale
4500 for 74mm turbo kit of any kind
2000 for the fuel system
2000 for aem and sensors
1000 for upgraded valvetrain
1000 for boost controller, hks dli, etc
1500 for a intercooler
1000 for some extra guages
1000 for radiator, bl crank pulley, other acc pulleys
400 for a wideband kit
700 for cams
700 for an exhaust

totalls to only approx 17500.....now one has to be able to install these in their car themselves or else the installation would go through the roof....at least 4-5k worth of work!!

i might have left something out....doesnt a car with the above mentioned parts make 1000hp at 30+ boost levels.....remember i said 1000hp not 1000rwhp!!

That's if you start with a fresh car, bad choice on the clutch that will cost you down the road. Keep in mind that while these motors are bulletproof, as they get older your going to be pushing them much more with modifications so a 120k mile motor isn't going to like trying to make 800+ WHP as a 0 mile motor will.

The above setup is good for about 800 whp without nitrous (I should know that's pretty much my girlfriends setup except she has a 150 shot, tilton and a few different brands of parts). You can always do things yourself, go the cheap route, do things cheaper, there are plenty of powerful Supras out there that are a blast to drive and very enjoyable without having everything chromed or perfect paint, it's all up to what the owner wants.

I could have bought a Z06 and moded, it but at the end of the day I'd have the same car that any grandpa or 45 year old in his mid life crisis can get from Chevy, 4-5 years from now when the next model comes out it'll be worth 20k and I'd be looking for a C7 to start over. Trust me this scenero goes through my head quite often.

just wondering, can you even finance one of these these cars anymore? i think 97-98 model its possible. sorry for thread jacking.

just wondering, can you even finance one of these these cars anymore? i think 97-98 model its possible. sorry for thread jacking.
i don't think you can since it such a older car, best thing u can do is to get a car loan from the bank or reach under the bed and pull out that grip ;)
ok so you puttin up 1000 flywheel power right? how much is it when that power hits the ground? is it around 850whp? i forget the precentage you loose from fly to ground power.
Thanks for that site with the different kits,the 10G kit look like something i can work with. i mean the 30G kit is nice and all but it seems to me that kit is for a track car. the thing is my supra is gonna be a weekend car, non show car, just knowing i have a 1000hp under the hood is good for me :D
but with the 10G kit you think you can tune it a lil bit more to put out a lil bit more power without a nos kit? i would love to have 900whp but don't i need 1100 flywheel for that

once again i want to say thanks for everyone imput but nobody havn't help me with the pricing
the supra with 61k going for 34G u think i can get away by offering 30K if not a little less? or the car have to much value that all owners are firm by their price? i don't want to look like an a$$hole by offering him/her 6g's off the asking

it really depends on how knowledgeable the owner is about the supra and their market value price. are they just going by blue book? or they know the rarity of the car. i think the car is being sold by exotic auto which i think the most you can get away from teh price is 1000-2500.

i think for 20G you can have a 900whp car. let say 12g for the turbo kit. then you'll the clutch fmic tuning and everything else. the most you can get on pump gas i think will be like 600whp. JAy has a t88 in his gs and he has about 740whp. i love them supras. once you get up to like 1100hp the stock 6speed is useless. TH400 is the way to go. if you're gonig to do that just find an auto tt. theres one right down the street from my house. its an 94 with 40k original auto with body kit and blitz rims for 28G which i think is a wee too much. just used autotrader and search supra from 20000-30000 you'll find it.

i think you can still get financing for the 98. or you can go to a credit union or peoplefirst.com.

but the thing is i want to keep the 6spd tranny, i notice a few supra once they get over that 1100 marker they install these 3spd auto tranny (like the one in drag cars). as long i get a strong a$$ clutch, pressure plate i should be straight right? like one of them carbon ones?

yea the TH400 is the one you're talking about. its a Turbo Hydro 400 3 spd auto. they're pretty much straight drag racing tranny.

yea one of those carbon clutch will run you a pretty penny. but remember theres always a boost controller you dont always have to be running like 25psi. an osgiken triple disk clutch is 2gs. the rps carbon dual disk is like 2900. the tilton carbon 9lb triple disk is 4gs. to put those powers to the ground i think you're going to need like 335 tires with a really strong lsd. you'll probably have to upgrade to a carbon driveshaft. IMO tuning a fuel are 2 of the most important things to consider when you start to push over double stock hp.

with 900hp those 6 gears are going to go by real fast thats why upgrading up a 3sp auto is pretty cool. unless you wanna drop like 15g to have a sequential tranny like the hks 6spd for the s15 drift silvias.

dam that tranny :mad:
well i guess i can have a boost controller with 2 different settings one for daily diver and the over for the evil side in me :eek2:
nah i guess riding around wit 600whp is cool but i want to have access to the 900whp in case a high power machine try me. but the carbon clutch how long u think that might hold up under these conditions?

im pretty sure if you want 900whp you better be running octane 100 all the time because at most you can get 600 on pump gas. those clutches should last a good amount if you dont drop the clutch all the time. beware of the triple disk after awhile you're gonna have a strong left leg and a wussy right leg. hahahaha

yea i heard about those types of cluthes, i have a friend who have an evo VIII with one of those cluthes and he talk about how it's hard as hell to use it in every day driving. i need something that street plus track, i will take it to the track once or twice a month but mostly drive it around here and there

The stock 6spd is fine for just about any power (up to 1400hp) with use of a Tilton Triple carbon clutch, super light pedal pressure, all the holding force you'll need and the whole unit weighs in at about 12lbs including the flywheel. Price will run you about $4500. If you sat in my Supra and pressed the clutch pedal it takes less force than a 95hp Honda civic, there is little to no clutch pressure needed because it's so light.

You can go powerglide if your looking for a drag race or street race car, this setup can be trick as you need an adapter plate, solid transmision and the right torque converted selection to make it work right. With a larger turbo and this tranny your likely going to need some nitrous at the start to get things moving.

As far as gas is concerned, anyhting over 500hp and your going to need race fuel, I run C16 in my Supra all the time which runs about $8-9/gallon but lets you make as much power as you need on the street or track. I of course don't daily drive the car as this could get quite expensive.

i see you mention a clutch that's 4500 what is the step down from that setup? or if im planning to do 1000hp or so i will need this set up? like i said it's not gonna be a straight track car i might take it there a few times a year, it's gonna be a weekend car, but i might street race like once a month. so for the most part it's gonna be a weekend cruise car with the top off picking up some fly a$$ ladies :D :thumbup: