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totrider
02-04-06, 08:51 AM
I was wondering how that car handles compare to an SC300/SC400 ?

lexusls430
02-04-06, 09:10 AM
NSX is one of the best handling sports cars. SC doesnt come close.

Drukinfoolio
02-04-06, 09:12 AM
I love the way NSX feels and handles, it's one of those this things where you have to experience yourself. I have dirven an SC but own a GS400. I have to say compare to an SC it handles better, the corning is just awesome. Add some mods to it you have yourself one hell of a ride. But then again it is just me, other members that have one might say otherwise.
All I have to say is get into one and drive it for yourself. If you live near me I would let you drive mine.

CK6Speed
02-04-06, 11:58 AM
I have an NSX and a 93 SC400. There is no comparison. The NSX makes the SC400 feel like you are driving a boat. The SC is not even close.

rominl
02-04-06, 12:28 PM
I have an NSX and a 93 SC400. There is no comparison. The NSX makes the SC400 feel like you are driving a boat. The SC is not even close.
agree, the nsx is a pure performance car man. the sc? i wonder even modded, it might still be at most comparable to the nsx? :) chris, any input?

mmarshall
02-04-06, 12:42 PM
I have an NSX and a 93 SC400. There is no comparison. The NSX makes the SC400 feel like you are driving a boat. The SC is not even close.

Several reasons for this. First, the NSX is mid-engined, putting the weight of the engine and powertrain behind the driver and driving the rear wheels ( the only U.S.-market Honda-Acura product to do so ), Second, the all-aluminum construction, while expensive to produce and difficult to repair, makes for light vehicle weight. Third, the extremely low stance and center of gravity makes for practically roll-free cornering. Fourth, the ultra-wide, ultra-low-profile dry-pavement tires ( and I DO mean DRY ) grip like on rails. Fifth, unlike nose-heavy FWD and RWD front-engine cars, the NSX's rearward-weight bias means a forward weight transfer on hard braking, that, like on rear-engined Porsches, places the center of gravity in the middle of the car and forces all four brakes and tires to do their equal share of the work...and the result is ultra-short Porsche 911-like stopping distances. :thumbup:

CK6Speed
02-04-06, 01:04 PM
agree, the nsx is a pure performance car man. the sc? i wonder even modded, it might still be at most comparable to the nsx? :) chris, any input?


I'm sure you can get an SC to handle by the numbers as good as a stock NSX. The difference will be it will be very harsh IMHO. The NSX chassis is extremely stiff. It is easy to put the NSX on 4 jack stands, remove one of them and the car doesn't budge at all. On full lifts, if the lift itself is not level the NSX will actually rock. That is how stiff the chassis is. That being said, with the stock suspension the road manners of the car is very good. It does not feel harsh and soaks up bumps very well. If you were to throw all the aftermarket suspension on the SC, I think it will handle great, but feel extremely harsh. I only have polyurethane lower control arm bushings, and 17" rims with 45 series tires on the OEM SC suspension and it feels harsh even compared to my lowered NSX. The one thing you can't change is the steering feel and driving dynamics of the two cars. The SC in comparison will always feel and steer like a boat. Maybe the difference might be a stock SC feels and steers like a a luxury cruise ship while a modified SC feels and steers like a speed boat in comparison to the NSX. I've said it many times. IMHO, the Lexus steering feedback is not that great. It is perfect for a luxury car but way off for a sports car or even sports sedan.

CK6Speed
02-04-06, 01:17 PM
Several reasons for this. First, the NSX is mid-engined, putting the weight of the engine and powertrain behind the driver and driving the rear wheels ( the only U.S.-market Honda-Acura product to do so ), Second, the all-aluminum construction, while expensive to produce and difficult to repair, makes for light vehicle weight. Third, the extremely low stance and center of gravity makes for practically roll-free cornering. Fourth, the ultra-wide, ultra-low-profile dry-pavement tires ( and I DO mean DRY ) grip like on rails. Fifth, unlike nose-heavy FWD and RWD front-engine cars, the NSX's rearward-weight bias means a forward weight transfer on hard braking, that, like on rear-engined Porsches, places the center of gravity in the middle of the car and forces all four brakes and tires to do their equal share of the work...and the result is ultra-short Porsche 911-like stopping distances. :thumbup:


I agree. That is why in my post above I mentioned you can probably make an SC handle great judging by the numbers, but it will never feel or drive like the NSX in comparison.
For the tires though. Would you believe in comparison to many cars today they are not really wide or low profile. Arguably the stock 91-93 with the original (Pre lawsuit) alignment and 205/50/15 and 225/50/16 rims and tires handle the best. Even with the 215/45/16 and 245/40/17 rims and tires that is less agreesive than the IS350 optional sports package rims and tires. The 02+ does have wider tires, but they are still only 225 up front and 255 in the rear.

ST430
02-04-06, 01:25 PM
Several reasons for this. First, the NSX is mid-engined, putting the weight of the engine and powertrain behind the driver and driving the rear wheels ( the only U.S.-market Honda-Acura product to do so ), Second, the all-aluminum construction, while expensive to produce and difficult to repair, makes for light vehicle weight. Third, the extremely low stance and center of gravity makes for practically roll-free cornering. Fourth, the ultra-wide, ultra-low-profile dry-pavement tires ( and I DO mean DRY ) grip like on rails. Fifth, unlike nose-heavy FWD and RWD front-engine cars, the NSX's rearward-weight bias means a forward weight transfer on hard braking, that, like on rear-engined Porsches, places the center of gravity in the middle of the car and forces all four brakes and tires to do their equal share of the work...and the result is ultra-short Porsche 911-like stopping distances. :thumbup:


you also forgot to mention the propensitiy for NSX's to oversteer very easily..AMHIK.

mmarshall
02-04-06, 01:25 PM
Yes, CK, that is a good point. Tires on even family sedans are getting more and more sports-car-like every year.

mmarshall
02-04-06, 01:37 PM
you also forgot to mention the propensitiy for NSX's to oversteer very easily..AMHIK.

Almost any mid or rear-engine car is marginally unstable and has at least some oversteer tendencies. I have driven mid-engine Toyota MR2's that I noticed needed a lot of small steering corrections to stay in the middle of the lane on a straight stretch of road.

The oversteering problem was much worse in the past than it is today, with today's better suspensions, tires, steering racks, and traction control / stability systems. In the really old days with the swing-axle rear suspensions like 60's vintage VW Beetles and Chevy Corvairs, it could tuck the outside tire under and roll you over and kill you if you were not careful.

For years, though, even though Porsches generally didn't flip over, the 911 was notorious for doing 180's and swapping ends with drop-throttle snap oversteer ( lifting the throttle suddenly in the middle of a hard turn and letting the heavy tail swing around ) .


To address your post, yes, the NSX will do this under extreme conditions, but the stability system, wide tires, and modern even though 90's vintage engineering makes it very unlikely unless you really do something stupid. You can generally get in trouble with this car only if you really want to.....the tendency to oversteer, on this car, while significant, is a LONG way from old Porsche 911's. That is why I didn't make a big deal out of it when I posted previously.

CK6Speed
02-04-06, 01:52 PM
At the limit the mid engine NSX may snap oversteer by its nature. However, with the NSX, oversteer is not really a concern under normal or even spirited driving. Not once ever did I let the rear end loose whether it be by accident or on purpose. I'm not one to purposely drift a car, but I do drive very spirited when I can. Never did I swing the rear out, but that is probably because I'm well below the limits of the car. On my BMW though I accidently put the car into oversteer many times. The rear alignment on the NSX has a great deal of toe in for rear stability. I know people read the magazines and read how easy it is for mid engines to snap oversteer, but IMHO, it is easier to loose the rear end on an SC400 than it is on an NSX. A lot of that has to do with how the NSX inspires confidence and the great deal amount of feedback the car gives you.

cip
02-04-06, 01:55 PM
Totally agree.

I've owned 2 SC's and driven 2 NSX's. I've taken both cars in stock form to their respective limits including top speed. NSX @ 167MPH is still so rock solid you can take your hands off the wheel. The SC @ 149MPH while still rock solid, needs plenty of attention.

I remember taking the NSX on an off-ramp. In the SC I could take that turn at 50 - 55MPH, but the NSX took it @ 72 MPH...and as I kept accelerating, it just bit down harder!! The SC was purpose built to handle the daily commute & be trouble-free for years while providing almost as much luxury as the LS but still being viscerally 'fun'. The NSX on the other hand was purpose built to be a trouble-free sports car..and the effort (including the aluminum frame and mid-mount engine) shows it. If you have a chance to rent an NSX, do it, or if you have a buddy willing to let you drive it hard, do that too. Of note the NSX's I drove were the 97+ w/ 290HP & 6 speed, not the older 260HP & 5 speed.

mmarshall
02-04-06, 02:18 PM
Totally agree.

I've owned 2 SC's and driven 2 NSX's. I've taken both cars in stock form to their respective limits including top speed. NSX @ 167MPH is still so rock solid you can take your hands off the wheel. The SC @ 149MPH while still rock solid, needs plenty of attention.

I remember taking the NSX on an off-ramp. In the SC I could take that turn at 50 - 55MPH, but the NSX took it @ 72 MPH...and as I kept accelerating, it just bit down harder!! .

While my own driving is not exactly like Grandpa's, I have to say you have a lot more guts than I do. Speeds like that would scare the hell out of me.....even in an NSX.

CK6Speed
02-04-06, 02:47 PM
While my own driving is not exactly like Grandpa's, I have to say you have a lot more guts than I do. Speeds like that would scare the hell out of me.....even in an NSX.

I've never hit the top speed on the NSX. The fastest I've done was about 150 MPH :D It is pretty stable though. You really don't realize how fast it is. Looking out the windshield you know it is fast just by how quickly things change and come up upon you, but feel wise it doesn't feel all that fast at all. The car just starts to geel planted. Well, let me rephrase that. It still feels fast, but it feels totally in control. I've done about 130 in the SC and like cip mentioned it is like white knuckle driving in comparison.

cip
02-04-06, 04:47 PM
mmarshall / CK6Speed-

Be advised I would not recommend doing what I did. I did that in the NV desert when I was young, single, & stupid. But I did have solid high-speed driving under my belt. If I had the chance to do that legally (i.e., the Silver State Classic) I'd do it. But I would have the car safety inspected, and wear a helmet!!! It's just very intoxicating in the NSX to go FAST!!!! I love the sound of that hydraulic clutch shifting from 4-5 @ 135 & 5-6 @ ~ 150!! :)

Doc C
02-04-06, 05:04 PM
I have a 2004 NSX, and I have driven the SC400. I had a 2003 SC430, and I realize that the SC430 is more tame than the original SC400. The SC400 is a fantastic car, but comparing it to the NSX is apples and oranges. The NSX is SO light and nimble. It loves to be tossed around and it's very difficult to break the rear end loose. It doesn't have a lot of torque or horsepower, but the 290 HP it has is wonderful from 50-130 MPH. Not many cars in the world can hang with it in that area of performance. The motor behind your head is awesome and when the VTEC kicks in, the sound is crack cocaine addictive. There is a video of the NSX-R against the Gallardo, Murcielago, Ferrari F360, Porsche 911 turbo, BMW M3. The NSX leads most of the laps, but gets passed by the Gallardo and MUrcielago in the last 1 or 2. The Murcielago beat it fair and square, but the Gallardo got in there IMO because the brakes of the NSX overheated and the driver had to back off. Everyone of those cars has had several generations of improvements in the NSX's time and it still beats most of them. I know I'm biased, but it was WAY ahead of its time and only now is it being surpassed by other cars in the world. The president of Honda says the next NSX will be at least as groundbreaking as the original. I'm already saving for it.

mmarshall
02-04-06, 07:10 PM
I was going to mention you having an NSX, Doc......but I didn't know if you still had it. Dave's girlfriend, I think, had one also....but now has a Porsche.

Inabj2
02-05-06, 04:56 AM
agree, the nsx is a pure performance car man. the sc? i wonder even modded, it might still be at most comparable to the nsx? :) chris, any input?

You can mod... most cars to.. out handle stock sports cars..

In southern Arizona this dude with a Fiero, with what looked like 305's racing tires in all corners and a swapped 350 V8 PWNED everyone at the autocross.... looked like a skate board. IT posted thefastest times that is for sure but I wonder what kind of feedback itd give the driver.

I wish they made aftermarket steering.. racks for our cars.. Then I again I wish this crappy slushbox and stall converter never EVER found its way into the SC300... worst tranny ever.... at least with a peaky 2jz-ge it is.

I've done over 140 in the SC300.. much more stable when compared to other cars I've driven. But I would imagine against a NSX its no contest.

DaveGS4
02-05-06, 07:33 AM
I've done over 140 in the SC300.. much more stable when compared to other cars I've driven. But I would imagine against a NSX its no contest.


Here's my fiance going 188mph in her (former) NSX

http://www.somniplex.com/gallery/albums/UndergroundDynojet/res3979.jpg



.... on the dyno in top speed mode ;)

rominl
02-05-06, 11:28 AM
I'm sure you can get an SC to handle by the numbers as good as a stock NSX. The difference will be it will be very harsh IMHO. The NSX chassis is extremely stiff. It is easy to put the NSX on 4 jack stands, remove one of them and the car doesn't budge at all. On full lifts, if the lift itself is not level the NSX will actually rock. That is how stiff the chassis is. That being said, with the stock suspension the road manners of the car is very good. It does not feel harsh and soaks up bumps very well. If you were to throw all the aftermarket suspension on the SC, I think it will handle great, but feel extremely harsh. I only have polyurethane lower control arm bushings, and 17" rims with 45 series tires on the OEM SC suspension and it feels harsh even compared to my lowered NSX. The one thing you can't change is the steering feel and driving dynamics of the two cars. The SC in comparison will always feel and steer like a boat. Maybe the difference might be a stock SC feels and steers like a a luxury cruise ship while a modified SC feels and steers like a speed boat in comparison to the NSX. I've said it many times. IMHO, the Lexus steering feedback is not that great. It is perfect for a luxury car but way off for a sports car or even sports sedan.

good writing there chris! so the nsx has much tighter steering feel? not sure if you have driven bimmer, or any of the m series. i wonder how it compares with each other?

At the limit the mid engine NSX may snap oversteer by its nature. However, with the NSX, oversteer is not really a concern under normal or even spirited driving. Not once ever did I let the rear end loose whether it be by accident or on purpose. I'm not one to purposely drift a car, but I do drive very spirited when I can. Never did I swing the rear out, but that is probably because I'm well below the limits of the car. On my BMW though I accidently put the car into oversteer many times. The rear alignment on the NSX has a great deal of toe in for rear stability. I know people read the magazines and read how easy it is for mid engines to snap oversteer, but IMHO, it is easier to loose the rear end on an SC400 than it is on an NSX. A lot of that has to do with how the NSX inspires confidence and the great deal amount of feedback the car gives you.

i agre with you as well. if you get a porsche 911, i know it's very easy to oversteer coz' of teh rear mounted engine, that's why it's hard to first drive that car. but the nsx with the mid mount engine, i actually think it's more neutral?

I have a 2004 NSX, and I have driven the SC400. I had a 2003 SC430, and I realize that the SC430 is more tame than the original SC400. The SC400 is a fantastic car, but comparing it to the NSX is apples and oranges. The NSX is SO light and nimble. It loves to be tossed around and it's very difficult to break the rear end loose. It doesn't have a lot of torque or horsepower, but the 290 HP it has is wonderful from 50-130 MPH. Not many cars in the world can hang with it in that area of performance. The motor behind your head is awesome and when the VTEC kicks in, the sound is crack cocaine addictive. There is a video of the NSX-R against the Gallardo, Murcielago, Ferrari F360, Porsche 911 turbo, BMW M3. The NSX leads most of the laps, but gets passed by the Gallardo and MUrcielago in the last 1 or 2. The Murcielago beat it fair and square, but the Gallardo got in there IMO because the brakes of the NSX overheated and the driver had to back off. Everyone of those cars has had several generations of improvements in the NSX's time and it still beats most of them. I know I'm biased, but it was WAY ahead of its time and only now is it being surpassed by other cars in the world. The president of Honda says the next NSX will be at least as groundbreaking as the original. I'm already saving for it.

i thought the nsx engine overheated not the brakes? the brakes overheat was on the m3 or the 360 i forgot? but regardless, i saw that video and till now i am still at awe about the nsx-r. i mena, please don't forget about the murcielgo with 600hp and gallardo with 500hp, where the nsx-r has less than 400hp. that's the best way to show engineering and how the nsx is as a car overall. on straight, yes the lambo dust away the nsx, but on corners, the nsx completely catches up!

tzu911
02-05-06, 11:53 AM
That being said, with the stock suspension the road manners of the car is very good. It does not feel harsh and soaks up bumps very well......The one thing you can't change is the steering feel and driving dynamics of the two cars..... IMHO, the Lexus steering feedback is not that great. It is perfect for a luxury car but way off for a sports car or even sports sedan.


This opinion has perked my interest in NSX. I've seen plenty of them, but not until this post that I started giving it more attention as it might deserve.

Many young asian kids here buy used NSX rather than 911, maybe there's some valid reasons to that after reading this thread. What the reasons are is beyond my auto-knowledge, but this is a very good thread that wet an amatuer like me's automotive appetite.

http://www.uwm.edu/People/scottec2/Cars/Others/Black-NSX.jpg

rominl
02-05-06, 12:15 PM
This opinion has perked my interest in NSX. I've seen plenty of them, but not until this post that I started giving it more attention as it might deserve.

Many young asian kids here buy used NSX rather than 911, maybe there's some valid reasons to that after reading this thread. What the reasons are is beyond my auto-knowledge, but this is a very good thread that wet an amatuer like me's automotive appetite.


well believe it or not a good used nsx would cost quite a lot less than a 911 of close comparable condition, so i am not surprised.

tzu911
02-05-06, 12:16 PM
well believe it or not a good used nsx would cost quite a lot less than a 911 of close comparable condition, so i am not surprised.


Now you are selling, and I like it :D

rominl
02-05-06, 12:24 PM
Now you are selling, and I like it :D
man, a decent nsx could be had for 30s i think, not bad at all

CK6Speed
02-05-06, 02:48 PM
good writing there chris! so the nsx has much tighter steering feel? not sure if you have driven bimmer, or any of the m series. i wonder how it compares with each other?

I've never spent much time behind the wheel of an M car, but if I recall the steering feel is about the same as in the non M cars. Anyway, if you compare my E36 BMW to the NSX the BMW steering is pretty light. My NSX is equiped with the manual rack steering. I was always worried about this before I got the car, but the manual rack gives awsome feeback. Once moving at anthing above 5-10 MPH or so you can one hand steer the car so it really isn't a problem. Parking in tight parking spaces you can definately feel the wieght, but you can still manhandle it with one had, or just use two hands and it's not a problem. This may be all in my head, but the feedback from the NSX is such that I believe I can feel the camber and toe changes as the car goes over dips in the road. It doesn't pull you one way or the other, but I can feel it in the steering wheel when the toe changes. Anyway, my car is lowered so it is barely within spec. When I hit big dips it could be that the alignment goes way out of spec so that may be why I can feel the changes.


i agre with you as well. if you get a porsche 911, i know it's very easy to oversteer coz' of teh rear mounted engine, that's why it's hard to first drive that car. but the nsx with the mid mount engine, i actually think it's more neutral?

The NSX is more neutral IMHO than the 911 by the mid engine design. However, the 911 has such big fat rear tires that it kind of balances out. From what I learned, mid engine cars are easy to rotate. Snap oversteer comes when you are pushing it beyound its limits. Another problem is if the rear looses traction suddenly like if you hit a wet spot around a corner. Since the car is so easy to rotate, recovery for most is very difficult. I think that is where a lot of the scary stories of crashing NSX's come from.

mmarshall
02-05-06, 03:25 PM
well believe it or not a good used nsx would cost quite a lot less than a 911 of close comparable condition, so i am not surprised.

The main problem is that so few were sold in the American market as new cars that , unlike 911's, they are rather difficult to find as used ones. I went out not long ago to a local Acura dealership to look at a used one for a prospective buyer out of state, and that was the only one there.

pvmike1
02-05-06, 03:30 PM
I've never spent much time behind the wheel of an M car, but if I recall the steering feel is about the same as in the non M cars. Anyway, if you compare my E36 BMW to the NSX the BMW steering is pretty light. My NSX is equiped with the manual rack steering. I was always worried about this before I got the car, but the manual rack gives awsome feeback. Once moving at anthing above 5-10 MPH or so you can one hand steer the car so it really isn't a problem. Parking in tight parking spaces you can definately feel the wieght, but you can still manhandle it with one had, or just use two hands and it's not a problem. This may be all in my head, but the feedback from the NSX is such that I believe I can feel the camber and toe changes as the car goes over dips in the road. It doesn't pull you one way or the other, but I can feel it in the steering wheel when the toe changes. Anyway, my car is lowered so it is barely within spec. When I hit big dips it could be that the alignment goes way out of spec so that may be why I can feel the changes.

The NSX is more neutral IMHO than the 911 by the mid engine design. However, the 911 has such big fat rear tires that it kind of balances out. From what I learned, mid engine cars are easy to rotate. Snap oversteer comes when you are pushing it beyound its limits. Another problem is if the rear looses traction suddenly like if you hit a wet spot around a corner. Since the car is so easy to rotate, recovery for most is very difficult. I think that is where a lot of the scary stories of crashing NSX's come from.

I also have an older NSX w/o power steering. It takes a little effort at low speed, but it's not too bad. As CK6Speed has mentioned, feedback and control is amazing. The only thing that I don't like about the steering is that the turning radius is pretty large. So in low speed U-turns, you're cranking the wheel with some effort, and you'll still have to make a 3 point turn. My 2nd gen GS was much more maneuverable even though it was much larger.

But once you get going, there's no comparison. :)

mmarshall
02-05-06, 03:43 PM
The only thing that I don't like about the steering is that the turning radius is pretty large. So in low speed U-turns, you're cranking the wheel with some effort, and you'll still have to make a 3 point turn. My 2nd gen GS was much more maneuverable even though it was much larger.

. :)

One reason for that wide turning radius is the wide tires and wheels in those low-slung front fenders and the way the nose droops down between them......there is not a lot of room for them to turn left or right without rubbing and scraping.

CK6Speed
02-05-06, 10:40 PM
One reason for that wide turning radius is the wide tires and wheels in those low-slung front fenders and the way the nose droops down between them......there is not a lot of room for them to turn left or right without rubbing and scraping.

The tire and rim is not that wide though. Stock front 91-93 rims are 15X7 with a 205/50/15 tire. The 94-2001 is a 16X7 using a 215/45/16. You are right though, the room up front is tight. I personally have a 18X8 running 225/35/18 tires, but it is very tight. I don't believe it is a lock to lock steering angle problem, but the steering rack ratio they choose. This probably has a lot to do with tracked tuned vs street tuned. As good as the NSX is for daily driving, it really is a better track car.

rominl
02-05-06, 11:11 PM
interesting to know, i would have never imagined the nsx with bad turning radius

totrider
02-16-06, 11:19 PM
After reading this thread for a while. & doing some research I've decided to get me one :D

Thanks again for the replies folks.. :D

CK6Speed
02-17-06, 02:14 AM
Good luck with your search. Just make sure you do your research well and don't settle.

GS3Tek
02-18-06, 11:24 AM
After reading this thread for a while. & doing some research I've decided to get me one :D

Thanks again for the replies folks.. :D

Thanks for starting this thread :D
It has peaked my interest also and I'm getting pretty tempted lately.

Let us know when you buy one :thumbup:

Pearlpower
02-18-06, 11:33 AM
I came close to buying one a few times but the lack of power held me back. Now that a more affordable supercharger kit is out, the potential is much nicer, especially with some gears and comptech headers.

Matters
02-18-06, 06:57 PM
you also forgot to mention the propensitiy for NSX's to oversteer very easily..AMHIK.

My Father had a beautiful white/black 1993 NSX. I almost cried when he sold it for an S2000 (which he now acknowledges was a terrible mistake).

I drove dad's NSX hard on several two hour runs. The NSX, in my opinion, does not oversteer easily at all. It is the most controlled car I have ever driven.

Osiris_x11
03-20-06, 06:25 PM
Very good thread! :thumbup: I think everyone who wants the practicality & comfort of the SC300/400 but the power & handling of a high-end sportscar should acquire an NSX! Other than the rare maint'/service interval, your only expenses should be gas, oil-changes, and tires... ;)

If you've ever driven an MR2/MRS, not necessarily at upper speeds or WOT... but at slower speeds but in a go-kart like manner, you can get the essence of the NSX. Very crafty & responsive, as well as forgiving (for being a MR) both of them are.

I like this anology...

600-800bhp Supra turbo is a sledgehammer, whereas the 270-290bhp NSX is a scalpal... both effective instraments in their own niche's!

volc0m08
04-26-06, 03:55 PM
my bro is on this forum, not sure of his handle but i think its "slammed" he owned a sc then to a supra and then to his nsx. here are the pics, in one of the pictures u can see his friends sc

http://www.we-todd-did-racing.com/wetoddimage.wtdr/wMTE2NjQ0MTZzNDEzZGZkMzF5NTQx.jpg
http://www.we-todd-did-racing.com/wetoddimage.wtdr/wOTc2OTE0NnM0MTNkZmQzMXk1NDE%3D.jpg
http://www.we-todd-did-racing.com/wetoddimage.wtdr/wOTc2OTE1NnM0MTNkZmQzMXk1NDE%3D.jpg
http://www.we-todd-did-racing.com/wetoddimage.wtdr/wOTc2OTE2NnM0MTNkZmQzMXk1NDE%3D.jpg
http://www.we-todd-did-racing.com/wetoddimage.wtdr/wOTc2OTE3NnM0MTNkZmQzMXk1NDE%3D.jpg
http://www.we-todd-did-racing.com/wetoddimage.wtdr/wOTc2OTE5NnM0MTNkZmQzMXk1NDE%3D.jpg
http://www.we-todd-did-racing.com/wetoddimage.wtdr/wOTc2OTE4NnM0MTNkZmQzMXk1NDE%3D.jpg

Ice350
04-26-06, 04:15 PM
I didn't read the entire thread so this may have been said.
Anyone interested in learning more about nsx ownership can go to www.nsxprime.com
I like the stuff I read but I don't like the way they ignore others like the nsx is the only car on the planet. I've seen people flamed for posting pics of their cars. After more than a year of visiting the site, I said something about my car. A guy asked for pics so I posted some. Not one comment about the car. Over 300 views and not one comment. I'll keep visiting and reading but I'll never post on that site again.

I did invite them to visit clublexus where we welcome others.

CK6Speed
04-26-06, 05:05 PM
I didn't read the entire thread so this may have been said.
Anyone interested in learning more about nsx ownership can go to www.nsxprime.com
I like the stuff I read but I don't like the way they ignore others like the nsx is the only car on the planet. I've seen people flamed for posting pics of their cars. After more than a year of visiting the site, I said something about my car. A guy asked for pics so I posted some. Not one comment about the car. Over 300 views and not one comment. I'll keep visiting and reading but I'll never post on that site again.

I did invite them to visit clublexus where we welcome others.

Not everyone is like that. You'd be surprised at how many NSX ownes are members here at Club Lexus as well. I'm one of them. I post somewhat a lot here, but hardly post on the NSX forums unless it is for something specific. What you will notice about the NSX forums is that most of the time they are not interested in chit chat. They are specific and to the point. The only time things seem to go on and on is when there are misinformation about the car. Same like here. Otherwise for the most part it can be considered more of a technical site rather than a social site. The Admin and mods are exremely strict about where posts go and how you conduct yourself, so often questionable posts will get deleted very fast. Take a look in the regional sites and I think you'll find it a bit more social.

As for people being flamed for postsing pics if their cars? I've never really seen that. You have to look at who is responding though. There are a lot of non NSX owners on the site just like how Ferarri Chat gets so explosive, but most of them are not owners. You will learn after a while who is the so called bad appples, the non owners, and the real core members that are very helpful. Most of the owners of NSX's use that car as a weekend car and owner's Lexus, BMW, Mercedes and many other types of cars and I've seen other cars posted up during my 5 or so years there with no problems, do it does surprise me that people would get flamed for it. Unless it was posted in the wrong section, which again, I have to say they are very strict about where posts go.

pvmike1
04-26-06, 06:57 PM
Not everyone is like that. You'd be surprised at how many NSX ownes are members here at Club Lexus as well.

I think I know a few...

GSteg
04-26-06, 09:19 PM
I think I know a few...


pics of yours please :D


I love NSX. It's one of the cars I always awe at because of the timeless look. Acura really got their design when they released the NSX in 1990, minus the rims.


I would love to drive one, but dealers around here are anal, and most of them requires the driver to be at least 21 :sad:

toy4two
04-26-06, 11:40 PM
mmarshall / CK6Speed-

Be advised I would not recommend doing what I did. I did that in the NV desert when I was young, single, & stupid. But I did have solid high-speed driving under my belt. If I had the chance to do that legally (i.e., the Silver State Classic) I'd do it. But I would have the car safety inspected, and wear a helmet!!! It's just very intoxicating in the NSX to go FAST!!!! I love the sound of that hydraulic clutch shifting from 4-5 @ 135 & 5-6 @ ~ 150!! :)

We got a 91 NSX up to close to 200 MPH, we aren't really sure though, but we went right past the highest number on the speedo and the needle just kept going :eek2: Boy were we stupid in high school, this was on the 15 freeway in the middle of the night. Do not try this at home. Great car no matter how dated the styling is getting.

I've owned an MR2 and at SCCA events you learn REAL quick, never let off the gas in a turn. I must have spun my MR2 on the street at least half a dozen times and I can' t count the number on the track.

1SICKLEX
04-26-06, 11:42 PM
I didn't read the entire thread so this may have been said.
Anyone interested in learning more about nsx ownership can go to www.nsxprime.com
I like the stuff I read but I don't like the way they ignore others like the nsx is the only car on the planet. I've seen people flamed for posting pics of their cars. After more than a year of visiting the site, I said something about my car. A guy asked for pics so I posted some. Not one comment about the car. Over 300 views and not one comment. I'll keep visiting and reading but I'll never post on that site again.

I did invite them to visit clublexus where we welcome others.
I am a member there, GREAT forum, great members. :thumbup:

CK6Speed
04-27-06, 12:02 AM
pics of yours please :D


I love NSX. It's one of the cars I always awe at because of the timeless look. Acura really got their design when they released the NSX in 1990, minus the rims.


I would love to drive one, but dealers around here are anal, and most of them requires the driver to be at least 21 :sad:
You are in California. Probably the state that has the most NSX owners in the nation. If you really wanted to drive one just ask someone. More than likely they will invite you to a local NSX meet so they can meet you and be sure you are not some nut :p but you'd be surprised at how many NSX owners want to share the NSX experience with others and would gladly let you drive their own car. That is one thing you'd fine different about the NSX owners and owners of other exotic cars.

newr
04-27-06, 12:28 AM
If you really wanted to drive one just ask someone. More than likely they will invite you to a local NSX meet so they can meet you and be sure you are not some nut :p but you'd be surprised at how many NSX owners want to share the NSX experience with others and would gladly let you drive their own car. That is one thing you'd fine different about the NSX owners and owners of other exotic cars.

That is so true. I have experienced it a few times at the local auto-x events. :thumbup:

rominl
04-27-06, 01:23 AM
You are in California. Probably the state that has the most NSX owners in the nation. If you really wanted to drive one just ask someone. More than likely they will invite you to a local NSX meet so they can meet you and be sure you are not some nut :p but you'd be surprised at how many NSX owners want to share the NSX experience with others and would gladly let you drive their own car. That is one thing you'd fine different about the NSX owners and owners of other exotic cars.
loud and clear. i should definitely go to one of the nsx meet with my wife, maybe that will change her feeling about the car

GSteg
04-27-06, 02:01 AM
Test Drive 4 GSteg Foundation

Who: NSX owners and GSteg
When: Anytime during the weekend
What: Let GSteg nut over the NSX
Where: Buick Dealership? :woot:
Why: I need to brag about it to my friend :D


Event starts now!

Ice350
04-27-06, 06:07 AM
Not everyone is like that. You'd be surprised at how many NSX ownes are members here at Club Lexus as well. I'm one of them. I post somewhat a lot here, but hardly post on the NSX forums unless it is for something specific. What you will notice about the NSX forums is that most of the time they are not interested in chit chat. They are specific and to the point. The only time things seem to go on and on is when there are misinformation about the car. Same like here. Otherwise for the most part it can be considered more of a technical site rather than a social site. The Admin and mods are exremely strict about where posts go and how you conduct yourself, so often questionable posts will get deleted very fast. Take a look in the regional sites and I think you'll find it a bit more social.

As for people being flamed for postsing pics if their cars? I've never really seen that. You have to look at who is responding though. There are a lot of non NSX owners on the site just like how Ferarri Chat gets so explosive, but most of them are not owners. You will learn after a while who is the so called bad appples, the non owners, and the real core members that are very helpful. Most of the owners of NSX's use that car as a weekend car and owner's Lexus, BMW, Mercedes and many other types of cars and I've seen other cars posted up during my 5 or so years there with no problems, do it does surprise me that people would get flamed for it. Unless it was posted in the wrong section, which again, I have to say they are very strict about where posts go.
Thanks for restoring my view of nsxprime members. I know that not all are bad but I did witness a couple of flame jobs for improper posting. Simply telling the guy to post in the appropriate section would have sufficed. As for my personal experience. It was the wheels section. The subject was about the value of staggered set-ups. I gave my opinion. One guy wanted to see my car. I posted in that thread. That was appropriate. I didn't get flamed. I'm just accustomed to some kind of comment when over 300 people view the thread. Even a negative comment would at least show some manners. It causes one to assume some snobbery. Assumptions can be misleading but mostly the result of poor communication. Here on CL, I guess we're spoiled...we have manners. I still like the nsxprime site or I wouldn't visit. Better, I like the car, I don't have to read any words.

yellowpad
04-27-06, 04:27 PM
How can anyone be owning an NSX? It's over rated and old outdated car. Heck, it doesn't even have the rear seating..It is powered by a battery when I opened the hood. This sucker can't be that fast..

ThoLe
04-27-06, 04:35 PM
LOL!!!! i hope u'r joking.

CK6Speed
04-27-06, 04:37 PM
How can anyone be owning an NSX? It's over rated and old outdated car. Heck, it doesn't even have the rear seating..It is powered by a battery when I opened the hood. This sucker can't be that fast..


I upgraded to an Optima Red Top battery and gained 50 HP :D

yellowpad
04-27-06, 04:40 PM
Awesome to hear!! Great $$ to power ratio.... $50 battery to 50 more ponies. 1:1 is unheard of. Gents......go get one :p

I upgraded to an Optima Red Top battery and gained 50 HP :D

CK6Speed
04-27-06, 04:42 PM
Awesome to hear!! Great $$ to power ratio.... $50 battery to 50 more ponies. 1:1 is unheard of. Gents......go get one :p


$50 :eek2: You have to show me your hook up. I got ripped as I paid $89 at Costco for mine. I''m kind of bummed about my power adder now :cry: Not as much bang for the buck as I once thought :egads:

yellowpad
04-27-06, 04:46 PM
If you got it from Costco, return the battery after a couple of years of usage and get a new one. You will end up saving more that $29 bucks :thumbup:

$50 :eek2: You have to show me your hook up. I got ripped as I paid $89 at Costco for mine. I''m kind of bummed about my power adder now :cry: Not as much bang for the buck as I once thought :egads:

1SICKLEX
04-27-06, 05:29 PM
How can anyone be owning an NSX? It's over rated and old outdated car. Heck, it doesn't even have the rear seating..It is powered by a battery when I opened the hood. This sucker can't be that fast..
Sensing sarcasm.

You know even though on paper, it has the least power of most competiton, the NSX has always had very good acceleration.

Ice350
04-27-06, 05:39 PM
How can anyone be owning an NSX? It's over rated and old outdated car. Heck, it doesn't even have the rear seating..It is powered by a battery when I opened the hood. This sucker can't be that fast..
Here we go again....the outdated word. Please give your definition of outdated. I have trouble connecting the term outdated to a car with exotic looks and since it's discontinued, is still in the current or most recent style. To me, outdated is a car that's severals years out of style. What's your definition?

GSteg
04-27-06, 07:27 PM
Here we go again....the outdated word. Please give your definition of outdated. I have trouble connecting the term outdated to a car with exotic looks and since it's discontinued, is still in the current or most recent style. To me, outdated is a car that's severals years out of style. What's your definition?

he's being sarcastic :)

GSteg
04-27-06, 07:28 PM
BTW I love costco batteries, the marine battery to be specific. No joke. I almost bought one for my GS, but it wouldn't fit, so I had to go with a duralast battery :(. I had the Costco battery in my old car and that battery took a beating without wanting to give up. Easily the best $40 battery I have ever bought.

Ice350
04-28-06, 05:49 AM
he's being sarcastic :)
Geez...I feel stupid. I saw the word outdated and didn't really read the whole thing.
Ugh!

NAZTY97
07-16-06, 06:47 PM
this has been a good post... .i'm actually lookin' for a 94-97 NSX-T right now... .can't decide if I'm gonna off load the 97 SC400,...which has been modded, and pretty pimp,.... ( probably gonna keep it ),... plus I have a 99 RX300.

I shied away from a few NSX's before,.. .but I think I'm in a better position to buy one now with no regrets.

I'm really curious about what my mod options are.... I've seen the comptech s/c,.. can't really get a solid fix on turbo set ups.

CK6Speed
07-16-06, 11:09 PM
this has been a good post... .i'm actually lookin' for a 94-97 NSX-T right now... .can't decide if I'm gonna off load the 97 SC400,...which has been modded, and pretty pimp,.... ( probably gonna keep it ),... plus I have a 99 RX300.

I shied away from a few NSX's before,.. .but I think I'm in a better position to buy one now with no regrets.

I'm really curious about what my mod options are.... I've seen the comptech s/c,.. can't really get a solid fix on turbo set ups.

Comptech is the safe bet. It puts down about 340 HP to the wheels which would put the NSX is solid low 12 second territory. It is simply and reliable. The various turbo kits have much more potential, but can also be a lot more complitated. Personally, unless you really are into mass power, I'd just do the I/H/E which should gain you an extra 25 or so HP to the wheels. Other than that, the aftermarket potential is quite large for the NSX. You can do stroker motors from 3.3L to 3.8L which can add over 100HP to the wheels N/A, you can to individual throttle bodies and velocity stacks, wide body kits, mild body kits, race parts, street parts. The only downside is the cost :cry:

Pearlpower
07-16-06, 11:24 PM
I tell you,even though it is an old body style, it is still very much modern and sleek. I love the NSK and Comptech is the way to go. I came sooooo close to buying one. Still may to have as a toy.

picus
07-17-06, 06:23 AM
I've been detailing (and by virtue, driving) quite a few NSX's lately. I'd forgotten how much I liked them; I kind of want to buy one now. :)

rominl
07-17-06, 10:04 AM
I tell you,even though it is an old body style, it is still very much modern and sleek. I love the NSK and Comptech is the way to go. I came sooooo close to buying one. Still may to have as a toy.
same here, hopefully one day, i can get it for some nice weekend rides :)

pvmike1
07-17-06, 06:53 PM
same here, hopefully one day, i can get it for some nice weekend rides :)

Hey Henry, I'll trade you for your SC for a day. ;)

rominl
07-17-06, 11:02 PM
Hey Henry, I'll trade you for your SC for a day. ;)
lol, you know my wife is the person you need to talk to.

ask CK6speed, nsx was a car we were considering when we bought our sc430 :)

CK6Speed
07-18-06, 12:12 AM
lol, you know my wife is the person you need to talk to.

ask CK6speed, nsx was a car we were considering when we bought our sc430 :)


What? You haven't convinced teh wife yet? Whoes running the show over at your house :p :D Just kidding. One of the reasons why I'm selling my NSX is because the wife is making me to so we can buy or rebuild a/our house :cry: :D

rominl
07-18-06, 12:43 AM
What? You haven't convinced teh wife yet? Whoes running the show over at your house :p :D Just kidding. One of the reasons why I'm selling my NSX is because the wife is making me to so we can buy or rebuild a/our house :cry: :D
maybe that's the very same resaon why i don't have the car :D

one day, that's all i can say

what a lovely car!!

NAZTY97
07-18-06, 01:07 AM
well to the two of you... I am buying an NSX before I get married ( again ).... and there will be no say now, or then on that matter... I will come into the future marriage with 3 cars!! and I will own them... so no negotiations possible.

I think I'm going for a 94-97 NSX-T.

rominl
07-18-06, 01:40 AM
well to the two of you... I am buying an NSX before I get married ( again ).... and there will be no say now, or then on that matter... I will come into the future marriage with 3 cars!! and I will own them... so no negotiations possible.

I think I'm going for a 94-97 NSX-T.
lol, for sure, learn from our mistakes :D

CK6Speed
07-19-06, 04:14 AM
well to the two of you... I am buying an NSX before I get married ( again ).... and there will be no say now, or then on that matter... I will come into the future marriage with 3 cars!! and I will own them... so no negotiations possible.

I think I'm going for a 94-97 NSX-T.

Personally, and this is just my own opinion, I'd get either a 94, or a 97 from your choice. My personal reason is the 94 was the last of the 3.0L Coupes (Not counting the 97-01 special order and Zanardi Coupes). The 95-96 use the same 3.0L motor and 5-Speed trans as the 91-94 Coupes, but 95 was the first year for the T top. Those NSX's are heavier than the 91-94 Coupes due to the extra chassis bracing because of the removable top. The 97+ however, got the 3.2L engine and 6-Speed, and also used thinner more updated aluminum. Surely the 95-96 NSX is still no slouch and a mid 13 second car, but if you are one that looks at the numbers that might sway you. Chassis wise, whether you can feel it or not, the Coupes have the stiffer chassis vs the T.

rominl
07-19-06, 09:50 AM
Personally, and this is just my own opinion, I'd get either a 94, or a 97 from your choice. My personal reason is the 94 was the last of the 3.0L Coupes (Not counting the 97-01 special order and Zanardi Coupes). The 95-96 use the same 3.0L motor and 5-Speed trans as the 91-94 Coupes, but 95 was the first year for the T top. Those NSX's are heavier than the 91-94 Coupes due to the extra chassis bracing because of the removable top. The 97+ however, got the 3.2L engine and 6-Speed, and also used thinner more updated aluminum. Surely the 95-96 NSX is still no slouch and a mid 13 second car, but if you are one that looks at the numbers that might sway you. Chassis wise, whether you can feel it or not, the Coupes have the stiffer chassis vs the T.
ah that's the exact same thing chris told me a while back. now i remeber the reason. 97+ for sure. i hope when the time comes, i can actually get a 03+. from what i read those mild changes make the car a lot better. just the headlights again (no more flip headlights so less weight) help the balance already. just what i read though

rogers2
07-19-06, 10:01 AM
I recently sold my nsx less than a month ago and let me tell you i regret selling my baby. I love my CL500 but the fun factor is zero compare to an nsx. I probaly moved up as far as prestige but I miss my car more and more everyday.

CK6Speed
07-19-06, 04:15 PM
I recently sold my nsx less than a month ago and let me tell you i regret selling my baby. I love my CL500 but the fun factor is zero compare to an nsx. I probaly moved up as far prestige but I miss my car more and more everyday.


I know how you feel and I haven't even sold mine yet. I read all the stories of owners selling their NSX's for something different like a Porsche, or M3, or whatever only to end up with another NSX somehow. I'm selling my NSX to my brother so I still have have it for a few more months, but I'm already missing it and I've been searching for a replacement for months now and I just can't find anything (Anything I can afford that is). The Porsche Cayman as far as I can tell would be about the only worthy replacement at that price range. Everything else cost 2X as much which is way out of my league. :cry: Anyway, during my reseach for replacement cars I keep coming back to just buying another NSX :egads: You can find faster cars, better handling cars, but nothing over all like what the NSX offers. Plus my insurance is less tha $1100 a year which is less than my Lexus RX330 (Same coverage). can't beat that for an exotic sports car :D

pvmike1
07-19-06, 08:27 PM
I know how you feel and I haven't even sold mine yet. I read all the stories of owners selling their NSX's for something different like a Porsche, or M3, or whatever only to end up with another NSX somehow. I'm selling my NSX to my brother so I still have have it for a few more months, but I'm already missing it and I've been searching for a replacement for months now and I just can't find anything (Anything I can afford that is). The Porsche Cayman as far as I can tell would be about the only worthy replacement at that price range. Everything else cost 2X as much which is way out of my league. :cry: Anyway, during my reseach for replacement cars I keep coming back to just buying another NSX :egads: You can find faster cars, better handling cars, but nothing over all like what the NSX offers. Plus my insurance is less tha $1100 a year which is less than my Lexus RX330 (Same coverage). can't beat that for an exotic sports car :D

Unless you're getting something completely different to suit your needs, why bother with the Porsche Gayman? You might as well keep the NSX.

GSteg
07-19-06, 10:50 PM
chris, if you're gonna have to sell the nsx to remodel your house, then wouldn't the price of a new car actually offset any money you get out of the nsx. Even worse, you'll have to put more money?

I'm still want to get a ride in a local NSX'ers car however :D


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CK6Speed
07-20-06, 02:48 AM
chris, if you're gonna have to sell the nsx to remodel your house, then wouldn't the price of a new car actually offset any money you get out of the nsx. Even worse, you'll have to put more money?

I'm still want to get a ride in a local NSX'ers car however :D



It would if I were to buy a brand new car. However: it looks like I'll either be driving our old 94 ES300, or maybe I'll pick up a Camry or Accord or something. After I get that whole house thing out of the way and I know what the mortgage payments will be I can think of getting another good car.

CK6Speed
07-20-06, 02:50 AM
Unless you're getting something completely different to suit your needs, why bother with the Porsche Gayman? You might as well keep the NSX.

I thought it might be fun to try something different. More than likely though if I do get anyother sports car chances that it will be another NSX is pretty high.