View Full Version : Non removable C6 Z06 roof flys off(recall issued, 30,000 cars)


GFerg
04-22-06, 10:51 AM
Fell off at about 60mph.


http://www.reverse-engineer.net/roof/001.jpg

http://www.reverse-engineer.net/roof/003.jpg

http://www.reverse-engineer.net/roof/004.jpg


http://forums.corvetteforum.com/showthread.php?t=1369957

Gojirra99
04-22-06, 10:55 AM
Impressive build quality :egads:

GM can get sued if this happens & it flew off & hurt /kill somebody . . .

TheRupp
04-22-06, 10:56 AM
No matter how beautiful, powerful, sexy, valuable it is... it's still a Chevy. :egads:

baddis es
04-22-06, 11:01 AM
only thing good outa this car is the engine and how it can still make decent mpg

Och
04-22-06, 11:26 AM
The engine isnt all that great either, its a 7.0 pushrod.

bizzy928
04-22-06, 12:12 PM
I STILL love the C6.

Its funny how contrasting these threads can be. Once something bad happens, everyone jumps on the band wagon with the negative comments.

TheRupp
04-22-06, 12:21 PM
I STILL love the C6.

Its funny how contrasting these threads can be. Once something bad happens, everyone jumps on the band wagon with the negative comments.

I love the C6 as well. I think it's probably the best Chevy made within the past 20 at least. I'd probably consider buying one. However, this is a Lexus forum, who excells in fit and finish, and overall quality. Chevy is known for issues with that, therefore it's not surprising.

Richie
04-22-06, 12:22 PM
Thats what I call a brown trouser moment :eek2:

toy4two
04-22-06, 02:11 PM
Good engine? Not since Chevy pulled their DOHC ZR1 engine has the corvette engine been anything special.

AJ
04-22-06, 04:41 PM
Exactly... as far as we know, this was a one time situation, as opposed to another manufacturer with a 57,000 time occurrence. :egads:

Stuff happens, let things shake out before condemning the car.

Ironically , only the one time bad thing is what people talk about .

Gojirra99
04-22-06, 04:45 PM
Exactly... as far as we know, this was a one time situation, as opposed to another manufacturer with a 57,000 time occurrence. :egads:
What occurrence ?? :uh: Nothing happened with those 57,000 cars :egads:

4TehNguyen
04-22-06, 05:02 PM
thats what happens when you break the sound barrier with a Z06 :uh:

LexusLuver
04-22-06, 05:06 PM
I doubt more than 1000 C6 Z06's have been sold

4TehNguyen
04-22-06, 05:18 PM
Are you sure of that? The simple fact is that the seatbelts failed.. a major safety issue.

seatbelts got stuck inside the latch its not like they disconnected randomly. Airbag recall affected 133 cars and it wasnt even all lexus spread into toyota also

VVT-i
04-22-06, 05:19 PM
Let's see.. IS alone:

Airbag recall
Seatbelt recall
Fuel in oil (stalling cars)

Like I said.. stuff happens. The Corvette incident was, as far as we can tell, a one time occurrence. IS owners have been through much worse.

Toyota/Lexus recall those cars if they got a few complaints. They will do some investigation on those complaints and gathering information, then step ahead and called it a recall. They're concerned about customers and not try to hide anything.

They got a lot of recall that some of them( as a tech) is so non-sense, but good enough for the competitor manufacturers to use it against Toyota/Lexus.

I remember in 1998 Lexus got a recall on the starters on 1995-1997 LS400 and SC400, because they got 3 incidents that the starter contact was found bad and it may cause fire( luckily it never happened). Lexus recalled almost 200,000 vehicles just for a few complaint they got... :egads:

As a tech I got a lot of friends that work for another auto manufacturer and those guys see worse than the seat belt recall. But as I asked them about the recall and what the maunfacturer will do to fix the problem, they said " Heck No" ... :uh:

Why don't we get back on topic? Uhhh, I think this thread is about the roof flying off a vette, but for some reason it turned out to be the Lexus recalls.

Gojirra99
04-22-06, 05:23 PM
Let's see.. IS alone:

Airbag recall
Seatbelt recall
Fuel in oil (stalling cars)

Like I said.. stuff happens. The Corvette incident was, as far as we can tell, a one time occurrence. IS owners have been through much worse.
It is one time , but it's inappropiate to compare an incident that has already occurred that can be fatal to 57000 non-incidence that are mostly pre-emptive in nature, What is worse, to have a big piece of metal flying at you at high speed, or just the trouble of bringing your car back for a fix & get a gift for your inconvenience,you can do without mentioning that to bring across your point( like as in bizzy's post that you replied to).There is no incident involving the IS whatsover that's remotely as dangerous that has occurred.

VVT-i
04-22-06, 05:34 PM
Those guys at C6 are funny as hell. Some of them think it is o.k for the roof to fly off at 60 mph. Some of them said this happened for about 40 times, I mean 40 times. They said if you type in " Roof flying off" in the search engine it will be about 40 threads show up.

From the pictures look like they designed this car as a targa top,but decided not too or may be the targa model in the future.

One guy put it pretty well that this is an American' s icon and it's very sad to see the union ruin it.

DASHOCKER
04-22-06, 05:44 PM
The car is still driveable. I will take it :D

tuddy
04-22-06, 06:34 PM
One guy put it pretty well that this is an American' s icon and it's very sad to see the union ruin it.


yea blame everything on the union guys huh..hahah

GFerg
04-22-06, 07:50 PM
Its unfortunate that the Z06 roof flys off like that. I still like the car, but they obviously have to fix this. This could go right through a windshield easily. Very dangerous. This will not be the first case. :sad:

To think that body panels flying off a car is okay is beyond me. Are they that used to low quality products that they could let this slide?? Unbelieveable. :thumbdn:

bagwell
04-22-06, 08:16 PM
uhhhh yeah sure....I swear I was only doing 60 mph.....hahahhaha

I guess they should have made the roof removeable...very cool feature of coupe C6's

1SICKLEX
04-22-06, 08:21 PM
Let's see.. IS alone:

Airbag recall
Seatbelt recall
Fuel in oil (stalling cars)

Like I said.. stuff happens. The Corvette incident was, as far as we can tell, a one time occurrence. IS owners have been through much worse.
Not about the IS. This is about the C6. We don't have enough space for BMW recalls :D

All in all, that is just unacceptable and clearly a huge hazzard.

But I would STILL BUY a Z06, its just a spectacular car and I am sure GM will fix this issue.

videcormeum
04-22-06, 11:22 PM
Not about the IS. This is about the C6. We don't have enough space for BMW recalls :D

All in all, that is just unacceptable and clearly a huge hazzard.

But I would STILL BUY a Z06, its just a spectacular car and I am sure GM will fix this issue.

Hahaha @ BMW.

Anyway - GM can't afford not to fix this issue. The Z06 is Chevrolet's flagship vehicle.

M.

newr
04-22-06, 11:30 PM
best bang for the bucks? NOTHING beat the Vette..

stop the hating please!!!

STIG
04-22-06, 11:36 PM
hahaha this gotta be the funniest thread of the year. I cant believe some people are saying it's ok to fall off a roof from a car.

"it's ok, it's just a roof that fell off!" lol! :D:D

bizzy928
04-22-06, 11:50 PM
hahaha this gotta be the funniest thread of the year. I cant believe some people are saying it's ok to fall off a roof from a car.

"it's ok, it's just a roof that fell off!" lol! :D:D

Wow, this thread really took off!

I agree with genearch, that every car manufacturer has problems. Its a fact. Lets ALL, put away our flamethrowers/low-blows and discuss this issue with true CL camaraderie. If there is one thing we all understand regarding this issue, it has to be the severity of a flying roof at "60mph."

Kamikaze2b
04-22-06, 11:53 PM
Those guys at C6 are funny as hell. Some of them think it is o.k for the roof to fly off at 60 mph. Some of them said this happened for about 40 times, I mean 40 times. They said if you type in " Roof flying off" in the search engine it will be about 40 threads show up.

From the pictures look like they designed this car as a targa top,but decided not too or may be the targa model in the future.

One guy put it pretty well that this is an American' s icon and it's very sad to see the union ruin it.


Give me a f'n break. The union makes the cars, they don't design or test them. That's where this flaw should have been discovered in the first place. :thumbdn:

bizzy928
04-23-06, 12:59 AM
Give me a f'n break. The union makes the cars, they don't design or test them. That's where this flaw should have been discovered in the first place. :thumbdn:

It has not been determined if it is a design or production flaw yet. Either way, everybody should be responsible for their own work and always keep quality in mind (TQM).

Coffey454
04-23-06, 09:11 AM
... Maybe as a cost cutting measure they decided the epoxy was too expensive and went with a velcro alternative... :uh:

Quite embarrassing, but still an evil car. BTW the 7.0 pushrod engine is incredible. Light, simple, huge modification potential and it even gets good mileage.

1SICKLEX
04-23-06, 09:25 AM
If u read, there is a guy on there that is on his 2nd roof already. He just never posted pics.

tkracing
04-23-06, 11:21 AM
Exactly... as far as we know, this was a one time situation, as opposed to another manufacturer with a 57,000 time occurrence. :egads:

Stuff happens, let things shake out before condemning the car.

I agree with this. :thumbup:

1SICKLEX
04-23-06, 11:36 AM
I agree with this. :thumbup:
Did u not read the post above. I said in that thread on the C6 forum, a guy is on his 2nd roof already, he didn't post pics.

92 SC400
04-23-06, 12:26 PM
I was expecting to see, "it was traveling at 190mph then the stop suddenly flew off due to high speeds." Seeing as how it fell off as 60mph... :rolleyes: lol

As many said though, I still love the C6.

TRDFantasy
04-23-06, 11:27 PM
Exactly... as far as we know, this was a one time situation, as opposed to another manufacturer with a 57,000 time occurrence. :egads:

Stuff happens, let things shake out before condemning the car.

How do you know this is a one-time occurence? Are you just assuming that? It would help for you to know all the facts before jumping to conclusions, like for instance the fact that MORE than just ONE person had this problem. The other fact is that GM has already posted a Technical Service Bulletin about this. GM *claims* that the structural integrity is not comprised without the roof, but one fact is clear is that this is a huge safety issue. However small, this problem should be recalled. This is GM's flagship vehicle ... doesn't matter if it's a Chevrolet, it's GM's flagship. If Lexus had a problem on it's LS of anywhere near this kind of severity, Lexus' reputation would take a HUGE hit. I sincerely hope that GM recalls the Vette for this problem before someone gets killed by a flying roof.

Why even mention the Lexus recall? In fact, why even take a stab at Lexus, when this is a non-Lexus topic?

Don't you know ... it's not the quantity of a recall or problem, but the severity of it. In this case, the roof of a car FLYING OFF is a HUGE problem compared to potential seatbelt jamming occuring. A roof flying off of a car is equivalent to the door flying off when travelling at speed.

Why get so defensive? Nobody here was questioning the merits or qualities of the Vette, what's being questioned is the quality, specifically the build quality of the Vette, which *is* questionable, in contrast with the Vette's performance.

bizzy928
04-24-06, 12:03 AM
How do you know this is a one-time occurence? Are you just assuming that? It would help for you to know all the facts before jumping to conclusions, like for instance the fact that MORE than just ONE person had this problem. The other fact is that GM has already posted a Technical Service Bulletin about this. GM *claims* that the structural integrity is not comprised without the roof, but one fact is clear is that this is a huge safety issue. However small, this problem should be recalled. This is GM's flagship vehicle ... doesn't matter if it's a Chevrolet, it's GM's flagship. If Lexus had a problem on it's LS of anywhere near this kind of severity, Lexus' reputation would take a HUGE hit. I sincerely hope that GM recalls the Vette for this problem before someone gets killed by a flying roof.

Why even mention the Lexus recall? In fact, why even take a stab at Lexus, when this is a non-Lexus topic?

Don't you know ... it's not the quantity of a recall or problem, but the severity of it. In this case, the roof of a car FLYING OFF is a HUGE problem compared to potential seatbelt jamming occuring. A roof flying off of a car is equivalent to the door flying off when travelling at speed.

Why get so defensive? Nobody here was questioning the merits or qualities of the Vette, what's being questioned is the quality, specifically the build quality of the Vette, which *is* questionable, in contrast with the Vette's performance.

If you read further in the thread, we have established that this is a major problem and should be addressed. There is no need for personal attacks. Lets stay on subject.

TRDFantasy
04-24-06, 09:41 AM
If you read further in the thread, we have established that this is a major problem and should be addressed. There is no need for personal attacks. Lets stay on subject.

You're right, there is no need for personal attacks. I was not making a personal attack. There is also no need for off-topic stabs at Lexus or talking about Lexus recalls, because it's just off-topic in this case.

tkracing
04-24-06, 10:24 AM
Did u not read the post above. I said in that thread on the C6 forum, a guy is on his 2nd roof already, he didn't post pics.

Yes I read the post above....

1SICKLEX
05-27-06, 12:58 PM
GM to recall 34,000 Corvettes (Hardtop Issue)
I know this is a known issue, but I hadn't seen the article in here yet. I tried to search to make sure, and didn't find anything about the recall.

_matt


GM Recalls 34,000 Corvettes To Fix Removable-Hardtop Flaw



Friday May 26, 3:43 PM EDT


DETROIT -(Dow Jones)- General Motors Corp. (GM) (GM) said Friday it is voluntarily recalling 34,000 Chevrolet Corvettes from the 2005 and 2006 model years to fix a problem with a removable hard top.

In some cases, a significant composite-plastic piece on the top can peal off and separate from the top's magnesium frame, GM spokesman Alan Adler said. The company sells a variety of versions of the Corvette, including a coupe with a permanent top and a soft-top convertible. The recall only affects vehicles with a painted removable hard top, which represent a sizeable portion of total Corvette sales.

Adler said the company knows of 21 cases where the plastic piece separated from the frame. He said there have been no injuries or crashes related to the problem.



GM sold 32,489 Corvettes in 2005 and it is considered the "halo" product in the auto maker's high-volume Chevrolet brand, according to automotive trade publication Ward's Automotive Reports. The company recently redesigned the Corvette, marking the sixth time in the vehicle's storied history that it has been redone by the auto maker.

GFerg
05-29-06, 05:14 PM
Associated Press
GM Issues Recall for 30,000 Corvettes
05.27.2006, 09:09 AM

General Motors Corp. is recalling more than 30,000 Chevrolet Corvettes because of a defect that allows detachable roofs to fly off.

The recall issued this past week affects certain 2005-2006 models with painted roofs. The adhesive between the roof panel and magnesium frame may separate, GM spokesman Alan Adler told The Detroit News.

If there is a complete separation, the hard roof panel may detach from the vehicle and it could strike another vehicle.

"You do not want to hit a 10-pound object at 70 miles per hour," Adler said.

The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration has received 21 complaints from owners of the sports car, but Adler said the problem has not caused any injuries or deaths.

Owners affected by the recall can get a free inspection and repair, if needed, at their local dealership.

GS3Tek
05-30-06, 10:15 AM
WOW! Imagine if this flying guillotine decapitates a bike rider :eek1: :eek3:

mmarshall
05-30-06, 01:09 PM
Wouldn't be the first time Corvette owners had to raise the roof about defects in their cars. :D

It also shows you how fast these cars are capable of going. it takes a LOT of air pressure to dislodge a bolt-on roof, even if the bolt-on attachment itself is not perfect or has a defect. You're not going to do something like that going through a school zone at 25 MPH. The article might SAY 60 MPH.....but I suspect it is a lot faster than that.

DASHOCKER
05-30-06, 02:04 PM
Time for GM to go back to the fixed roof Z06 Ala the C5 Z06. Lutz will take care of the idiots responsible . Morons:egads: