Just rode in my neigbors Q.... man that thing rides smooth and even on the 22's you barely notice the difference, that suspension is awesome. I think he's running a staggered setup with 22x9 and 22x10 in the rear with a 4 or 5 inch lip. It's just sick!!!. I think this car swallows 22's even better than the 7 series or 300m. It looks just perfect on the car.

http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/5033/11zt9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

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Those tires look really thin.... He better be carefull.

same low pros that are on the 7 series... anyone on 22's ( on cars) are going to either be riding on 30 series tires or 25. Honestly it rides great and you wouldnt know the difference until you actually got outside and looked at the wheels.

he definitely needs a kit for that car. It'll look awesome! Perhaps JP or Wald will do :D

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A little too much 4x4 look for my taste.

A little too much 4x4 look for my taste.Exactly my thoughts.

Just make sure you don't drive the car in the Midwest.

If these auto enthusiasts boards is an indicator, I think I should start a bent-wheel repairing business and make big money. :thumbup:

Looks pathetic. Tire sidewall too stretched and too short. :thumbdn:

I dont think his tires are stretched... runs a 285 in the rear and I think a 245 in fronts. Are those recommended for 9 and 10 inch width's? All I know it looks perfect in person and rides great :thumbup: :thumbup: . I didnt know the Q could handle such big widths on the car and sits so flush againt the car. The wheel wells are much bigger than the LS430.

well im not the biggest advocate of big wheels but I do think it actually looks good in person. I think it actually handles the big wheels better than either the 7 series or Dodge charger. To each his own... thats what makes america great... I think I'll be getting a Q ... rides great!! :thumbup:

I dont think his tires are stretched... runs a 285 in the rear and I think a 245 in fronts. Are those recommended for 9 and 10 inch width's?

Yes, and those WIDTHS can go on SC, GS, (and LS too, I believe) ok.

It's not the width that makes it looked stretched or so skinny to me, but the series, what are they 285/25s or something? :uh:

does anyone know the name of the wheels?

Yes, and those WIDTHS can go on SC, GS, (and LS too, I believe) ok.

It's not the width that makes it looked stretched or so skinny to me, but the series, what are they 285/25s or something? :uh:


Hmm, I dont remember.. I think 30 series.

Yes, and those WIDTHS can go on SC, GS, (and LS too, I believe) ok.

It's not the width that makes it looked stretched or so skinny to me, but the series, what are they 285/25s or something? :uh:


You can run staggered 22's on those cars like the Q?? I know you can run those widths on 20's but going to 22's you dont think that would be a problem?

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That looks like :monkey: and probably handles like :chicken: .

Please stop.

Interesting how most give mad props when we see 22's on the 7-series, but this Q45 comes along and its an instant :thumbdn: from EVERYONE!! Just an observation. :)

LOL, but I must agree, it just doesnt look as good. Maybe its the style rim, no drop, or not as an attractive bodystyle. IMO this car begs for the VIP treatment.

Yup, doesn't look good at all, looks disproportional :thumbdn:

Interesting how most give mad props when we see 22's on the 7-series, but this Q45 comes along and its an instant :thumbdn: from EVERYONE!! Just an observation. :)

LOL, but I must agree, it just doesnt look as good. Maybe its the style rim, no drop, or not as an attractive bodystyle. IMO this car begs for the VIP treatment.


I dont know man.. car looks killer in person... Everyone in the neighborhood has complimented him like he's the president. These are people who own S550 and new 7 series.

I didnt know how aggressive and sick the Q looks till I just saw in hooked on rims the other day and I tell you it looks Stunning!! :thumbup: :thumbup: Gonna ride again tonite with my neighbor.

Is your neighbors name Bruce?? I dealt with a guy for about a month that had a Q and wanted to run 22"s. If it is Bruce tell him Derrick from D2 said hello. Also ask where is the 6" lip he told me he was gonna get! lol (just a little inside joke) :) :)


Interesting how most give mad props when we see 22's on the 7-series, but this Q45 comes along and its an instant from EVERYONE!! Just an observation.

LOL, but I must agree, it just doesnt look as good. Maybe its the style rim, no drop, or not as an attractive bodystyle. IMO this car begs for the VIP treatment.

To be honest, I see 7 series all the time with the nastiest non staggered cheapie wheels and it looks just as bad as anything else. The things that makes the 7 a slam dunk with wheel fitment is the lip sizing (3.5" front with bbk clearance, 5" rear with bbk clearance is a snooze for any decent manufacturer), and also the ability to slam the car after fitting 22" wheels

In my opinion (personal taste) when you increase the diameter of the wheel by 4 or 5" (the Q has 17s or 18's standard), if you cannot then lower the car by at least 2" then its not going to look right, and . Thats the reason everyone is not really liking the outcome, its because the car looks "awkward". Trust me, with the tire sizing on the market now, 22's alone is no big deal at all, you will see them on Camry's and Accords in about 3 minutes.

Its all about completing the package IMO

sorry but the wheels just dont look right, too big. Maybe if it was lowered it would look better, also a better design of wheel would help.

You can run staggered 22's on those cars like the Q?? I know you can run those widths on 20's but going to 22's you dont think that would be a problem?

You're right, you can't run 22's on GS/SC/LS and have it still properly drivable.

A 30 series tire on a 285 width is 3.36" tall if my math is right.

On a 22" rim that sidewall is about 15% the size of the rim.

A 35 series on a 285 width on a 20' rim for example, is nearly 20% the size of the rim so it doesn't look so 'skinny'.

:thumbdn: :thumbdn:

At some point they start to look like wagon wheels...or the car resembles a monter truck.

To be honest I've seen much worst on some of these Lexus' around here. It's not something I would ever do thats for sure.

Soooo this means the next time i run across a 7 series thread with these wagon wheels and everyone is praising it to high heaven I get to talk about you like a dog right.....

does anyone know the name of the wheels?

They look like the TrafficStars that TLW had except in chrome? TrafficStar RTS? But I didn't think that they'd be available in 22's.


http://www.cruzinonchrome.com/Trafficstar_RTS_large.bmp

I'm also not a fan of huge wheels but I can understand what he's saying. They don't look THAT bad. Considering the wheel design, it's not as much of an eyesore as most 22's I've seen. The wheels do seem a little too big on the car. IMO, 20's are perfect and any bigger requires a lot of exterior cosmetic work before it achieves VIP status.

The car needs some work before those 22's will flow right with the car and even with work, the wheels may still be too big and stand out.

He needs a drop and a vip style kit (EXAMPLE: JP) before he can get those 22's to look right on the car.

IMO, 20's, a kit, and a drop will make more heads turn than simply 22's. Bigger doesn't necessarily mean better.

Even on the 7-series, unless the 22's match the car perfectly (wheel design, ride height, etc.), the car can't carry off the look.

My beef with most guys who do big set-ups like this is that they don't LOWER THE CAR.

They think "I'll just but enormous wheels on it, that way I won't have to lower the car." Wrong.

Here's a Q45 with 22s that is lowered- looks 1,763 times better (in my opinion).

Too bad the guy wouldn't stagger the wheel widths- these cars BEG for a fat lip and wide rubbber out back!

That is much much better SocalSC4 a drop make all the difference in the world, you are right. :thumbup: I'd still never go that big though.

I'd rather a GS on 20s, a LS on 20s, a 745 on 20s, a S on 20s, a XJ8 on 20s, a new 5 on 20s, than a Q on 22s. He could have 30" wheels, it won't matter.

The math is wrong, the car looks weird, I'll give him a cookie for trying so he can say "hey I got my car on 22s". I bet with the stock brakes behind it, it looks ridiculous.

The lowered Q45 SoCal posted looks better but its still not a pretty car to look at and one of the reasons it is discontinued.

I think I am going to start buying size 18 Jordans on my feet b/c it technically has more leather and its MORE shoe than my proper size, a 13.

Bigger is better right?

I think I am going to start buying size 18 Jordans on my feet b/c it technically has more leather and its MORE shoe than my proper size, a 13.

Bigger is better right?

Now that is funny.. :D :D :D

I was thinkng the same :dance1:

I think I am going to start buying size 18 Jordans on my feet b/c it technically has more leather and its MORE shoe than my proper size, a 13.

Bigger is better right?

You mean like this? :D (had to)

I'm a big fan of shoes that are too big. When I lose one, no problem, I put both my feet in the remaining shoe and hop away.

I feel good too, because I figure a peg leg pirate with a single size 18 foot stole my shoe, and now is happily stomping around somewhere.

makes me feel almost as good as seeing a Q45 on rubber bands :)

Found the site from my neighbor...
Im the owner of the Q, I read all the posts and dont take any offense to the comments but I find majority of you on here rather amusing. And no my car does not ride like poop ;). The suspension on the Q is adjustable and makes it possible to run bigger rims withouth sacrificing ride so no compromise there.... honestly cannot tell the difference between stock and the 22's other then when I hit potholes.

The car is still stock height and is slightly taller due to the extra inch in wheel diameter. I will be dropping it around 2 inches and adding a JP kit and brembs in the coming months. I'm just contemplating if I should do an air runnner suspension or not so I got more researching to do. More things to but thats a secret for now.

You guys have a great site.. keep up the good work.

http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/8374/4inchoh0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

I'd rather a GS on 20s, a LS on 20s, a 745 on 20s, a S on 20s, a XJ8 on 20s, a new 5 on 20s, than a Q on 22s. He could have 30" wheels, it won't matter.

The math is wrong, the car looks weird, I'll give him a cookie for trying so he can say "hey I got my car on 22s". I bet with the stock brakes behind it, it looks ridiculous.

The lowered Q45 SoCal posted looks better but its still not a pretty car to look at and one of the reasons it is discontinued.

I think I am going to start buying size 18 Jordans on my feet b/c it technically has more leather and its MORE shoe than my proper size, a 13.

Bigger is better right?

Well in your opinion it looks weird.. .maybe because its not a lexus but why would anyone expect anything else on a Lexus board. ;) . Well I'll say it apparently doesnt look to weird to a few big name Motorsport companies who approached me about putting my Q in their magazines because they liked my 2005 that much. I dont want to have any pictures taken until I get my Brembos and JP kit so they'll have to hold off. I just find it funny for some and YOU to criticize someone's ride you have no clue about and assume the person slapped on some rims and called it a day. I dont know... maybe your a rookie moderator since I find some of the comments to be expected from an average poster but not from a moderator. It's obvious your taste buds are bland for the Q mentioning it's discontinued because its not pretty to look at- I had no clue...I'll make sure I call up Infiniti to confirm this tomorrow ;)


Just a side note.. I understand your devoted passion and enthusiasm for your Lexus cars being a moderator and all but for future NON LEXUS NEWBEE's you might be a little less subjective in the future so you wont steer off new posters in the wrong direction.

If anyone has any information as far as pro's and cons with air runner suspensions and so forth I'd like to hear. Much Appreciated in advance.

Great site by the way mods :thumbup: :thumbup:

Found the site from my neighbor...
Im the owner of the Q, I read all the posts and dont take any offense to the comments but I find majority of you on here rather amusing. And no my car does not ride like poop ;). The suspension on the Q is adjustable and makes it possible to run bigger rims withouth sacrificing ride so no compromise there.... honestly cannot tell the difference between stock and the 22's other then when I hit potholes.

The car is still stock height and is slightly taller due to the extra inch in wheel diameter. I will be dropping it around 2 inches and adding a JP kit and brembs in the coming months. I'm just contemplating if I should do an air runnner suspension or not so I got more researching to do. More things to but thats a secret for now.

You guys have a great site.. keep up the good work.


My friend as the same generation Q45 like you have and is also silver like yours. He has the full Junctihon Produce kit, grill, front hood spoiler, and is on air runner suspension. He is only on 20" rims, but the car looks great. With your planned mods I'm sure it will come out awsome. I highly suggest the air runner suspension though. :thumbup:

PS. As another moderator of Club Lexus I suggest if you don't like what others have to say just ignore them moderator or not. The fastest way for a thread to go downhill is when people react to what others posts in a negative manner. Just explain yourself but leave the personal comments out even if others made personal comments about you. No sense in getting into an internet war and getting banned. Enjoy yourself here on the forums and don't take things personally :thumbup:

Q45th - welcome! And thanks for your non-incendiary comments. :thumbup:

Good luck with all the car mods!

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Found the site from my neighbor...
Im the owner of the Q, I read all the posts and dont take any offense to the comments but I find majority of you on here rather amusing. And no my car does not ride like poop ;). The suspension on the Q is adjustable and makes it possible to run bigger rims withouth sacrificing ride so no compromise there.... honestly cannot tell the difference between stock and the 22's other then when I hit potholes.

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Your car rides relatively smooth, not because of the 22" wheels or the rubber-band tires, but primarily because of the long Q45 wheelbase and adjustable shock damping. Ordinarily, on most cars, tires and wheels like these will give a bucking-bronco ride ( and quicker steering response, of course ).
You mention hitting potholes. Be CAREFUL. Smooth ride or not, hitting potholes with a tire-wheel combination like this is just asking for damage. There simply isn't much tire sidewall or cushion to absorb the impact....and that impact is transmitted right through to the wheel rim.
Also, with larger-than-standard wheels / tires like these, depending on the total outside diameter of the package, it can make the speedometer and odometer read low by lowering the rotational speed of the wheels in relation to the car's true speed. A low-reading speedometer can get you speeding tickets and a low-reading odometer can void the car's warranty by altering the car's true mileage. .

My friend as the same generation Q45 like you have and is also silver like yours. He has the full Junctihon Produce kit, grill, front hood spoiler, and is on air runner suspension. He is only on 20" rims, but the car looks great. With your planned mods I'm sure it will come out awsome. I highly suggest the air runner suspension though. :thumbup:

PS. As another moderator of Club Lexus I suggest if you don't like what others have to say just ignore them moderator or not. The fastest way for a thread to go downhill is when people react to what others posts in a negative manner. Just explain yourself but leave the personal comments out even if others made personal comments about you. No sense in getting into an internet war and getting banned. Enjoy yourself here on the forums and don't take things personally :thumbup:

I agree, thanks for the comments guys. So as far as air runner suspension why would you recommend it. It rides so great now I dont want to compromise the ride quality but I would like to make the ride height adjustable. Can I have both coil and air setup or just the one?

Also do you know where your friend imported his JP kit from. I finding a little difficulty trying get this thing imported.

You mean like this? :D (had to)

ROFL, post of the month Paul!!!

ROFL, post of the month Paul!!!

Thanks Richie - guess only you and I found it funny. :D

I agree, thanks for the comments guys. So as far as air runner suspension why would you recommend it. It rides so great now I dont want to compromise the ride quality but I would like to make the ride height adjustable. Can I have both coil and air setup or just the one?

Also do you know where your friend imported his JP kit from. I finding a little difficulty trying get this thing imported.

I like the Air Runners for the ease of adjusting the ride height. Literally hitting a switch. At shows he drops it all the way down. During daily driving he raises it a little lower than what you have right now. If he comes up to a steep driveway he can raise it even higher. All without getting out of the car. Coil overs will handle better period, but to make adjustments takes time. The Air suspension are not really made for handling corners, but they do ride real nice and smooth. There will be body roll around corners, but most people who get air do not drive their cars really agressively especially with the 20 or 22" rims. I'm not sure how my friend got the JP kit, I'll have to ask. I know it took a long time to arrive though.

Chris

Well in your opinion it looks weird.. .maybe because its not a lexus but why would anyone expect anything else on a Lexus board. ;) . Well I'll say it apparently doesnt look to weird to a few big name Motorsport companies who approached me about putting my Q in their magazines because they liked my 2005 that much. I dont want to have any pictures taken until I get my Brembos and JP kit so they'll have to hold off. I just find it funny for some and YOU to criticize someone's ride you have no clue about and assume the person slapped on some rims and called it a day. I dont know... maybe your a rookie moderator since I find some of the comments to be expected from an average poster but not from a moderator. It's obvious your taste buds are bland for the Q mentioning it's discontinued because its not pretty to look at- I had no clue...I'll make sure I call up Infiniti to confirm this tomorrow ;)


Just a side note.. I understand your devoted passion and enthusiasm for your Lexus cars being a moderator and all but for future NON LEXUS NEWBEE's you might be a little less subjective in the future so you wont steer off new posters in the wrong direction.

If anyone has any information as far as pro's and cons with air runner suspensions and so forth I'd like to hear. Much Appreciated in advance.

Great site by the way mods :thumbup: :thumbup:
Welcome to Clublexus. Let me tell you a rule bub, you post pics on the interent, its fair game. U see the pic bitkauna posted making fun of me, its fair game. You have someone post pics of your car ON THE INTERNET, don't expect everyone to give you a high five and kudos, you will hear good things, bad things, smart things, funny things, etc

I find it AMUSING out of everyone, you decided to quote me, who has been a super-moderator for what 3 years, a moderator for 4, runs a seperate website and has thrown very successful multi-car shows, now track meets and has helped lead Lexus owners to victory at the NOPI Nationals year after year. I know a "little" about the industry and what people want. Just a little ;)

So, don't get your panties in a bunch if I don't think your execution is glorious, sorry. I've had things done to my car that had people do this :uh:

I surely can appreciate you taking the time to join here but I don't appreciate you trying to call me out, because you will lose badly.

Found the site from my neighbor...
Im the owner of the Q, I read all the posts and dont take any offense to the comments but I find majority of you on here rather amusing.
You guys have a great site.. keep up the good work.

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We don't take offense to your posts and some of us find the car amusing :D
You mean like this? :D (had to)
THIS PIC IS HILARIOUS!! Right click, save as....

Thanks Richie - guess only you and I found it funny. :D
I was laughing my ass off too!! Nice pic Sic!!! :D

I like the Air Runners for the ease of adjusting the ride height. Literally hitting a switch. At shows he drops it all the way down. During daily driving he raises it a little lower than what you have right now. If he comes up to a steep driveway he can raise it even higher. All without getting out of the car. Coil overs will handle better period, but to make adjustments takes time. The Air suspension are not really made for handling corners, but they do ride real nice and smooth. There will be body roll around corners, but most people who get air do not drive their cars really agressively especially with the 20 or 22" rims. I'm not sure how my friend got the JP kit, I'll have to ask. I know it took a long time to arrive though.

Chris


Air runner sounds like the way to go but the car rides so perfect now I'm afraid it might make the car's suspension like honda or something. Yeh, see if you can find out from your friend where he got it from... it would be much appreciative. Im guessing they run around 3k? Any local socal spots that do a good install? Thanks for the help Lawman and CK6speed.

Welcome to Clublexus. Let me tell you a rule bub, you post pics on the interent, its fair game. U see the pic bitkauna posted making fun of me, its fair game. You have someone post pics of your car ON THE INTERNET, don't expect everyone to give you a high five and kudos, you will hear good things, bad things, smart things, funny things, etc

I find it AMUSING out of everyone, you decided to quote me, who has been a super-moderator for what 3 years, a moderator for 4, runs a seperate website and has thrown very successful multi-car shows, now track meets and has helped lead Lexus owners to victory at the NOPI Nationals year after year. I know a "little" about the industry and what people want. Just a little ;)

So, don't get your panties in a bunch if I don't think your execution is glorious, sorry. I've had things done to my car that had people do this :uh:

I surely can appreciate you taking the time to join here but I don't appreciate you trying to call me out, because you will lose badly.


We don't take offense to your posts and some of us find the car amusing :D

THIS PIC IS HILARIOUS!! Right click, save as....

I wasnt selective when replying to one of the mods so dont take it personal bro. You obviously had more to add than the others by commenting on more than just the 22's on my car but on the Q's style saying it aint pretty, etc when the same thing could be said about your GS or any other car. Im just a straight shooter so no harm no foul ;) .... . Everyone seems to be very informative on the site and helpful which is much appreciated.

There is a point where big wheels don't look "just right"

Your friend has reached that point :thumbdn:

Because they fit, doesn't make it right

Amen.

Man you could roll through the ghetto in that car and pick up all kinds of chicks :rolleyes:

No taste in the design of that. What magazine wanted to put that in their lineup? I see cars like that everyday and every make and model, etc... Rims are too big for the car. I'd never run bigger than 19" rims on a car anyways (some fat lips of course), unless it was like a 300c or something where 20s are stock and look small.