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Ford's Capless Fuel Filler — which was first put into production on the Ford GT — is set to debut across the company's product lineup starting with the 2008 Lincoln MKS, the automaker announced today. The capless system is a "tangible example of how Ford is developing innovative product solutions to satisfy the unmet needs of consumers," the company said. Capless fuel filler technology eliminates the inconvenience of forgetting to put the gas cap back on after fueling and saves time during refueling by eliminating the need to unscrew a fuel filler cap. It's also better for the environment because no gas fumes escape.


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Big whoop! How highly advanced it that? Why don't Ford invent some diesel/fuel cell/hyrbrid that can get 300mpg? That would be a technology break through...

that looks pretty ugly on that GT...

Man looks like Ford is the actual "company of ideas"

LOL

Hmm I wonder how much time I would save by not unscrewing a cap............20-30 seconds :woohoo:

I can't wait until the spring or rubber seal fails and it costs $300 to fix it rather than $5 on a replacement gas cap.

Inconvenience of unscrewing a cap? yeah right. But about the gas vapour not escaping.. sure that's a good thing but the gas has to go somewhere and I doubt it'll condense back to liquid if you fill up that tank.

I can't wait until the spring or rubber seal fails and it costs $300 to fix it rather than $5 on a replacement gas cap.

we have a winner, this fuel cap thing is the answer to the question no one asked

I dont see how that works. The gas fumes are supposed to be sucked up by the gas nozzle and i dont see how it can if it sits so far out.

There right it will save time............for a**holes to put sugar in your tank,piss in it,cooking oil ect..., it makes no sense.
Richard

I think its a good idea. I forgot to put the cap on numerous times on my civic and had to keep buying it for $15. Happened 3 times :sad:

I am sure its a good cost cutting measure as well, just advertised as something for the consumer to save them from losing a gas cap.

Whatever supplier made the gas caps, probably just filed for banktrupcy.... :(

when was the last time you saw a fuel pump handle that looked that clean......ford always selling lies from the get go....

Now this is innovative
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Your responses are a joke. Yes, I'm a Ford owner, but I also hate gas caps even when "tethered" to the gas cap door. I hate touching them, I hate turning until they click, click to make sure they're in, etc.

Not being sexist, but I think WOMEN in particular will love this new feature. They don't want their nails, hands or clothes anywhere near a gas cap.

We'll see if any other manufacturer follows.

I doubt this has anything to do with cost savings either as a gas cap is hardly expensive and this mechanism is probably more complex.

Somehow I think if Lexus did this you guys would be saying how it comes out of their racing experience, how Lexus has something MB and BMW don't, etc.

:rolleyes:

^^Exactly... The fact that they are wasting time revolutionizing the gas cap industry when they have soooooooo many manufacturing and reliability concerns is truly a joke. A big one.

Javier

This change has little to nothing to do with customer convenience.
It has everything to do with cost reduction. Every penny count in this industry and removing a cap and tether are going to save $.xx per vehicle. Add that up over the entire lineup and you have significant savings. ( I would bet that the entire "system" has been modified to reduce the number of parts).
I'm sure there is a flapper in the opening that will close to eliminate fumes escaping.

Somehow I think if Lexus did this you guys would be saying how it comes out of their racing experience, how Lexus has something MB and BMW don't, etc.

:rolleyes:

I'm hoping Lexus would use this idea also. Ya know..Lexus is a luxury company. What's the luxury in having to put your fingers on a dirty gas cap right? :D

But seriously..I dont know why some of you are looking down at this idea as if Ford wanted to put hubcaps on the Ford GT. I dont see any negative about it, only positives. Perhaps if Lexus is the one to start this trend, this whole forum would have different opinions. I can definitely see this as one of the future things that will become standard on most, if not all cars.

Sure you may save maybe 5 seconds with this capless system, but why complain about saving time at all? It's a good thing. :egads:
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( I would bet that the entire "system" has been modified to reduce the number of parts).
I'm sure there is a flapper in the opening that will close to eliminate fumes escaping.

If anything, this capless system should have more parts than the traditional cap system. If you look at both systems, they're very similar. The Cap system has a cap (obviously), and that's just one removeable part. The Capless system will need at least 2 parts to work, so essentially, the capless system isn't really saving in number of parts.
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But seriously..I dont know why some of you are looking down at this idea as if Ford wanted to put hubcaps on the Ford GT. I dont see any negative about it, only positives. Perhaps if Lexus is the one to start this trend, this whole forum would have different opinions. I can definitely see this as one of the future things that will become standard on most, if not all cars.

Sure you may save maybe 5 seconds with this capless system, but why complain about saving time at all? It's a good thing. :egads:


:agreed: thanks.

If anything, this capless system should have more parts than the traditional cap system. If you look at both systems, they're very similar. The Cap system has a cap (obviously), and that's just one removeable part. The Capless system will need at least 2 parts to work, so essentially, the capless system isn't really saving in number of parts.
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A typical system has a door, cap, tether, welded piece in the door to hang the cap, metal flap inside the filler neck, Plastic shroud around the neck to direct spillage, evap hoses and evap canister.
When making the gas door there is at least one extra step to add either a cap holder or a tether holder. Typically it's a stamped and bent piece of metal that is tack welded to the door. This also will cause additional dwell time in the painting process as the painting arm will have to make an extra turn (at least one).

Now look at the system above. Obviously they have eliminated the cap, tether, plastic flap, additional metal piece inside the door to hold the cap, etc... Look how clean the door is now. It's a simple one piece design. Imagine the rest of the lineup. They can now just stamp a simple flapper. I bet most of the new ones aren't a racing style flapper, just a one piece stamped and painted piece of metal.
Odds are there is a simple flap inside the filler neck that has enough pressure to direct overflow to the evap canister.

Trust me on this. No matter how neato or green it looks, it's not made for the customer. This wasn't dreamed up to save some namby pamby person 2 seconds removing the cap, or keeping their hands off a dirty gas cap. (it's not like it's deisel fuel!) It's made to reduce costs and if it makes a customer happy, thats only a bonus.

I've been selling direct tierI and tier II for 10+ years now and the only thing that makes an auto manufacturer change direction is $$.

Costs are taken out of the strangest things. Take Nissan. They saved a significant amount of money by not painting the B pillars of their cars. They now use a black decal. It allowed them to reduce passes in the painting stage which reduced paint emissions which in turn saved them significant coin. There is no other benefit to using a decal beyond $$.

A typical system has a door, cap, tether, welded piece in the door to hang the cap, metal flap inside the filler neck, Plastic shroud around the neck to direct spillage, evap hoses and evap canister.
When making the gas door there is at least one extra step to add either a cap holder or a tether holder. Typically it's a stamped and bent piece of metal that is tack welded to the door. This also will cause additional dwell time in the painting process as the painting arm will have to make an extra turn (at least one).

Now look at the system above. Obviously they have eliminated the cap, tether, plastic flap, additional metal piece inside the door to hold the cap, etc... Look how clean the door is now. It's a simple one piece design. Imagine the rest of the lineup. They can now just stamp a simple flapper. I bet most of the new ones aren't a racing style flapper, just a one piece stamped and painted piece of metal.
Odds are there is a simple flap inside the filler neck that has enough pressure to direct overflow to the evap canister.

Trust me on this. No matter how neato or green it looks, it's not made for the customer. This wasn't dreamed up to save some namby pamby person 2 seconds removing the cap, or keeping their hands off a dirty gas cap. (it's not like it's deisel fuel!) It's made to reduce costs and if it makes a customer happy, thats only a bonus.

I've been selling direct tierI and tier II for 10+ years now and the only thing that makes an auto manufacturer change direction is $$.

Costs are taken out of the strangest things. Take Nissan. They saved a significant amount of money by not painting the B pillars of their cars. They now use a black decal. It allowed them to reduce passes in the painting stage which reduced paint emissions which in turn saved them significant coin. There is no other benefit to using a decal beyond $$.
Nissan puts stickers on their b pillars? Wow, didn't know that.

i'll pass.. i'd rather have a locking gas cap. like stated before, people can now put sugar in your gas tank with ease!

... I've been selling direct tierI and tier II for 10+ years now and the only thing that makes an auto manufacturer change direction is $$.

OK, good points and post. I still like this better than a traditional cap so it's nice to me when costs savings also result in benefits to the customer.

Trust me on this.

And with a username like "cheap skate" why wouldn't I? :D

useless gimmick to the morons that dont put on their gas cap after a fill up