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Old Aug 16, 2006 | 02:19 PM
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One thing it seems many companies are choosing hard top convertibles now. Only company I knew for a while with one was Lexus, with the SC430. Not sure if anyone before Lexus did it. One thing I truly like hard top convertibles I feel much safer in them, than the rag tops. I have a feeling with more people doing hard top convertibles, probably end up seeing full glass ones.

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Old Aug 16, 2006 | 02:30 PM
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Benz SLK was not the first ever, but first of recent memory. The SC 430 followed next, then the Benz SL and I am very happy to see many others useit.
In Europe some brands have 15k hardtops!

The Honda Del Sol in Japan of the early 90s had a hardtop automatic removal option. The del Sol was not a complete convert, but it took off the T-top and put it in the trunk.

THe Ferrari 575 SuperAmerica has a flip roof, the roof just swivels into the trunk. The cool thing too is the roof is glass and you can tint the roof to your liking!!

The Volvo C70 and VW EOS and Pontiac G6 also have hardtops.
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Old Aug 16, 2006 | 02:36 PM
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Remeber 3000GT have hardtop convertiles too?
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Old Aug 16, 2006 | 02:42 PM
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Remeber 3000GT have hardtop convertiles too?
And what about the late 1950's Ford versions.
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Old Aug 16, 2006 | 02:45 PM
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They had a program on the discovery channel a while back about converibles. or maybe it was the history channel.
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Old Aug 16, 2006 | 02:50 PM
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Down here, Peugeot sells some hard top convertibles in the 206 and 307 models. Very nice designs (but engineering )

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peugeot_206
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Old Aug 16, 2006 | 02:50 PM
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Peugot was the first back in the 30's then ford in the 50's. Mitsu brought it back in the 90's followed by benz and then Lexus. Now everyone is doing it.
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Originally Posted by JessePS
One thing I truly like hard top convertibles I feel much safer in them, than the rag tops.
Also, a lot of my friends with ragtops have had their cars broken into by someone tearing the canvas top.

Not only do they lose whatever was valuable in the car (including their personal information and identities), but they had to get the canvas replaced, which for most cars run around $2000 with installation!!!
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Originally Posted by lkirchner
And what about the late 1950's Ford versions.
Yep, Ford was first(at least for America). My uncle had one of these http://vintagecars.about.com/od/hist...kyliner_bg.htm
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Old Aug 17, 2006 | 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by PhilipMSPT
Also, a lot of my friends with ragtops have had their cars broken into by someone tearing the canvas top.

Not only do they lose whatever was valuable in the car (including their personal information and identities), but they had to get the canvas replaced, which for most cars run around $2000 with installation!!!
Had that happen to me twice with my 90 325i conv., cost me about $700 USD each time.
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Some history on retractable hardtop convertibles on THIS SITE
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Old Aug 17, 2006 | 04:36 PM
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Honda had a targa top delsol, same roof as a supra, not a convertible. A t-top is the roof found on f-body camaros, trans am, etc. Then Honda brought back the hardtop in 99 or 2000 with the S2000 which was before Lexus did it i believe. I know that its illegal for shops to tint your sunroof or glass roofs found on vettes because the tint shatters under so much direct sunlight, sure your windows have direct sunlight but its not the same i guess.
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The new Pontiac has one too.
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Old Aug 17, 2006 | 06:38 PM
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Originally Posted by DriftNsc3
Honda had a targa top delsol, same roof as a supra, not a convertible. A t-top is the roof found on f-body camaros, trans am, etc. Then Honda brought back the hardtop in 99 or 2000 with the S2000 which was before Lexus did it i believe. I know that its illegal for shops to tint your sunroof or glass roofs found on vettes because the tint shatters under so much direct sunlight, sure your windows have direct sunlight but its not the same i guess.
Right, targa top is different from t-top.

Honda made the S2000 with a hardtop? Really? I thought it was always soft.

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Old Aug 19, 2006 | 09:27 AM
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It's an optional attached fiber glass top like the advertised 3-series. Saw plenty of s2k with fiber glass top, but never seen any 3-series with it.
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