2007 G35 Sedan Base MSRP:

G35 - $31,450
G35 Journey - $31,900
G35x AWD - $33,950
G35 Sport AT - $33,450
G35 Sport 6MT - $32,250


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It went up in price, no more sub 30k G35s...still very very very very very very very very very aggresive pricing!

They are going to sell tons of these things.....

Pricing is very close to the IS. IS350 starts at 35k g35 Sport which is the equivalent model starts at 33k. If it werent so ugly it would probably sell like hot cakes.

It went up in price, no more sub 30k G35s...still very very very very very very very very very aggresive pricing!

They are going to sell tons of these things.....

+1

yes it went higher but not as much as expected. very, very aggressively priced. the car will sell very well.

Infiniti needs to do a lot to sell such a car against the IS and the 3-Series.

Pricing it low like so should help them sell many and quickly...

Pricing is very close to the IS. IS350 starts at 35k g35 Sport which is the equivalent model starts at 33k. If it werent so ugly it would probably sell like hot cakes.


If you can get a IS350 for 35k please give me the #. Because I shoped around and they were 38-40k. IS250 was around 35k.

Ya, considering the price of the IS and 335i this should sell very well, and rightfully so.

If you can get a IS350 for 35k please give me the #. Because I shoped around and they were 38-40k. IS250 was around 35k.

Yeah and I'm sure we'll see a whole ton of G35s selling for $32k too :rolleyes:

apples to apples here children :egads:

Great pricing! Infiniti needs to get the word out - they can sell of ton of these. Great car for the money!

Pricing is very close to the IS. IS350 starts at 35k g35 Sport which is the equivalent model starts at 33k. If it werent so ugly it would probably sell like hot cakes.


How is the sport model G35 equivalent to the 35k IS350? At 35k the IS350 is bone stock. I think if you add the sport package its about 38-39k.

Pricing is very close to the IS. IS350 starts at 35k g35 Sport which is the equivalent model starts at 33k. If it werent so ugly it would probably sell like hot cakes.

Ugly?? says who?!?!:banghead:

I would consider the G35 sedan anyday. Hell i would get a one next week but the love of the lexus is hard to part with.. The new 07 G35 is a great car. Infiniti did a great job on the style and performace of the new sedan. With 298 HP for the automatic its a sure run with the IS350 which is priced well over 31k... GL infinti :thumbup:

I'm surprised some of you think it's ugly. I'm not a huge fan of the sedan but it is far from ugly imo. Well, to each his own. I think the pricing is excellent and yes, they will sell a ton. I mean 300hp for 32K, they will fly out the door.

Yeah and I'm sure we'll see a whole ton of G35s selling for $32k too :rolleyes:

apples to apples here children :egads:

I'd be willing to bet that more G35s would go for ~32K comapred to IS350s going at ~35K... My girlfriends friend bought a full loaded IS350 with employee pricing from her uncle and it wasnt a WHOLE lot better than $35k.

How is the sport model G35 equivalent to the 35k IS350? At 35k the IS350 is bone stock. I think if you add the sport package its about 38-39k.

Yep, plus HID, and other stuff.

G35 comes with HID standard.

So it looks like the G35 is the new value leader in this segment. Even the new TL-S seems to cost more. :thumbup:

Really really like the price advantage, but sadly it doesnt do much else for me. :dunno:

The G35 Coupe will be the ish:thumbup:

one of the reasons i never got a g35 is because everyone seems to have one due to its competitive pricing. i'm the kind of person that likes exclusivity without having to spend an arm and a leg. though its good for consumers it would really make me mad when you start seeing it on the road everywhere.

I agree with everything said here but the only thing that makes me somewhat interested in the G35 is the massive advantage in room it has over the IS. Other than that, I don't wanna be one of the million G35s driving around because Infiniti will sell a lot of these.

drove the g35 at work and power out of it is amazing, it was a demo car, fully loaded nav is now touch screen, back up camera, push start paddle shifter also looks good in person than pix

G35 sells great so no reason new 2007 model wont sell great either...

i'm the kind of person that likes exclusivity without having to spend an arm and a leg.

Buy a Saab. :p

Buy a Saab. :p

Or something about to be discontinued:D

So it looks like the G35 is the new value leader in this segment. Even the new TL-S seems to cost more. :thumbup:

Really really like the price advantage, but sadly it doesnt do much else for me. :dunno:
Wow, so u priced it and the TL costs more base? Wow..the TL also was a sub 30k car and they bumped the price with the new gen and it sold just as well.

How is the sport model G35 equivalent to the 35k IS350? At 35k the IS350 is bone stock. I think if you add the sport package its about 38-39k.

You have to get the sport to get the paddle shift and a few other features that are standard on the IS350. Also th base price is lower but the IS has more standard features. Keyless access and start are standard, leather seats are standard and moonroof, plus the paddleshifters are standard and last time i checked HID are optional on G35. So comparably equipped the IS may be the better value.

So comparably equipped the IS may be the better value.

Ha...I seriously doubt that when the G is starting so much lower in price

You have to get the sport to get the paddle shift and a few other features that are standard on the IS350. Also th base price is lower but the IS has more standard features. Keyless access and start are standard, leather seats are standard and moonroof, plus the paddleshifters are standard and last time i checked HID are optional on G35. So comparably equipped the IS may be the better value.


Keyless access and HIDis standard on G35. I don't care about those paddle shifters because I can get 6sp MANUAL!
Still, IS350 is more expensive. Unless you meant the IS250 is the better value...

G interior is a nice improvement still no match for a IS interior

The most impressive thing about Infiniti, right now (to me), is their amazingly good lease rates on 21 month leases on the G and M (and maybe others?).

You have to get the sport to get the paddle shift and a few other features that are standard on the IS350. Also th base price is lower but the IS has more standard features. Keyless access and start are standard, leather seats are standard and moonroof, plus the paddleshifters are standard and last time i checked HID are optional on G35. So comparably equipped the IS may be the better value.

How can this be the case when base MSRP is 35,705 for the IS350 and you can get an almost fully loaded G35 for that price?

Look at what std on both cars and then look at a comparably equipped G35 prices are very close. Also the manual infiniti is just as fast as the auto Lexus. Last time i checked IS350 has alot more standard features, higher resale value, more reliable car and has better dealer service so the IS wins on value.

Maybe Im missing something you arent when I compare the sites:

http://infiniti.com/allnewG/2007_GSedan_Specifications.pdf

http://www.lexus.com/models/IS/detailed_specifications.html

To me it doesnt seem the G lacks a whole lot of these standard features. And Im not sure how youre coming up with the IS resale value being better and reliability, etc when youre talking about one car that is barely a year old and the other not even on sale yet... Maybe youre talking past models, but then too, from what Ive seen the G35s resale value doesnt seem that poor, keeping in mind it starts off cheaper than the IS.

Both cars have their strengths, but I think the G offers more stock for stock. The IS has std moonroof, which is nice, but the advantage the G has is std HIDs, perf leather, real aluminum trim, 7" info display screen (even w/o navi).

Check out the spec sheet
http://www.infiniti.com/allnewG/2007_GSedan_Specifications.pdf

And I think the G's hold their value pretty well. Have you tried shopping for a used G? Might as well get a new one.

Both cars have their strengths, but I think the G offers more stock for stock. The IS has std moonroof, which is nice, but the advantage the G has is std HIDs, perf leather, real aluminum trim, 7" info display screen (even w/o navi).

Check out the spec sheet
http://www.infiniti.com/allnewG/2007_GSedan_Specifications.pdf

And I think the G's hold their value pretty well. Have you tried shopping for a used G? Might as well get a new one.

Actually, I'd like the sun/moonroof to remain optional. I wouldn't get it because it compromises structural rigidity (much like fold down rears), as well as adding weight and reducing headroom.

The only things that matters to me are price and available 6MT on the big engine, which is where the G35 wins on both counts. Manual IS250s are next to impossible to find.

Actually, I'd like the sun/moonroof to remain optional. I wouldn't get it because it compromises structural rigidity (much like fold down rears), as well as adding weight and reducing headroom.

The only things that matters to me are price and available 6MT on the big engine, which is where the G35 wins on both counts. Manual IS250s are next to impossible to find.

The 5speed auto with 306HP still seems like a hell of deal to me at only 33k.. :D

As a current owner of a G35 Coupe and My faithful GS400 -- I applaud Infiniti for stepping up to the plate but from my expereince with Infiniti - I say Lexus is still more refine, smoother and quicker, more quiet and more efficient..

I've always looked at the two brands in this aspect:

Inifiniti : Sporty with a hint of Luxury (Very Sporty w/ miminum luxury features)

Lexus : Luxury with a flavor of Sport (by far Lexus is more luxurious w/sport appeal)

They are counter parts of each other..and not really comparable except for price and car class.. Infiniti might be cheaper - but the overall satisfaction is alot higher with lexus..(I had my GS for almost 8 years now - and still loving it!!) I've had my '06 G35 Coupe for 6 months now and wished I had bought an IS350 instead!! And the reason I got the G35 is because of price - My G35 coupe -loaded with every option available was stickered $42K which I got on a deal for $34K - now I wish I had forked out the xtra $10K more for the IS350!)

- But Look at it this way because Of Infiniti's cheaper price on the G35 Sedan - You will get a better deal on your IS350!! So Cheers!! ;)

As a current owner of a G35 Coupe and My faithful GS400 -- I applaud Infiniti for stepping up to the plate but from my expereince with Infiniti - I say Lexus is still more refine, smoother and quicker, more quiet and more efficient..

I've always looked at the two brands in this aspect:

Inifiniti : Sporty with a hint of Luxury (Very Sporty w/ miminum luxury features)

Lexus : Luxury with a flavor of Sport (by far Lexus is more luxurious w/sport appeal)

They are counter parts of each other..and not really comparable except for price and car class.. Infiniti might be cheaper - but the overall satisfaction is alot higher with lexus..(I had my GS for almost 8 years now - and still loving it!!) I've had my '06 G35 Coupe for 6 months now and wished I had bought an IS350 instead!! And the reason I got the G35 is because of price - My G35 coupe -loaded with every option available was stickered $42K which I got on a deal for $34K - now I wish I had forked out the xtra $10K more for the IS350!)

- But Look at it this way because Of Infiniti's cheaper price on the G35 Sedan - You will get a better deal on your IS350!! So Cheers!! ;)


As an Infiniti M45 owner and a Lexus SC430 owner i can honestly say that i have been more satisfied with the few months ive had with my m45 compared to the few years ive had my SC. Infiniti really did a great job with the M45 and though i havent been in the new 07 G35, im assuming it will also go in the direction of the M. From what I've read, it seems to be a great car. One of these coming days i have to go test drive it and see how it compares to the competition.

I see infiniti as luxury focused more on sport and driver feeling just as bmw is. I see Lexus as luxury focusing more on comfort. Similar to MB in a sense where the driving aspect isnt as enjoyable. Lexus cars imo are good luxury cruisers but i dont think lexus got the performance aspect right yet. I still feel that most of the designs are still bland but its not a bad thing since that is what works for lexus. Infiniti design is more striking with a really sporty-luxury appeal.

As for reliability, i havent had an issue with either car. For dealer service, my experience with infiniti has been better.

If i were to choose between an IS350 and a G35, I would get a G35. I sat in an IS and was just too damn small. I love the front end of the IS but i really like the overall look of the G35. The price is also very appealing for 306hp with an option of a 6MT

As an Infiniti M45 owner and a Lexus SC430 owner i can honestly say that i have been more satisfied with the few months ive had with my m45 compared to the few years ive had my SC. Infiniti really did a great job with the M45 and though i havent been in the new 07 G35, im assuming it will also go in the direction of the M. From what I've read, it seems to be a great car. One of these coming days i have to go test drive it and see how it compares to the competition.

I see infiniti as luxury focused more on sport and driver feeling just as bmw is. I see Lexus as luxury focusing more on comfort. Similar to MB in a sense where the driving aspect isnt as enjoyable. Lexus cars imo are good luxury cruisers but i dont think lexus got the performance aspect right yet. I still feel that most of the designs are still bland but its not a bad thing since that is what works for lexus. Infiniti design is more striking with a really sporty-luxury appeal.

As for reliability, i havent had an issue with either car. For dealer service, my experience with infiniti has been better.

If i were to choose between an IS350 and a G35, I would get a G35. I sat in an IS and was just too damn small. I love the front end of the IS but i really like the overall look of the G35. The price is also very appealing for 306hp with an option of a 6MT
Seriously, outside maybe the G35 coupe, what is striking about their design? I don't recall mag reviews raving about any of the styling nor any experts like Del Coats or Robert Cumberford (where they have reviewed Lexus and L-finesse). As for comparing the 2 brands, there are many more stories of 1QWKGS4 side than yours and looking at quality results, that is expected. Infiniti has very good quality, still under Lexus.

I still don't see Infiniti has a viable BMW alternative as the only car they offer a manual in is the G35. :)
I will say the G35 and M35/45 are sportier than their Lexus competition and the FX is one of the sportiest SUVs you can buy, so yes, they are the sportiest Japanese luxury brand.:thumbup:

Seriously, outside maybe the G35 coupe, what is striking about their design? I don't recall mag reviews raving about any of the styling nor any experts like Del Coats or Robert Cumberford (where they have reviewed Lexus and L-finesse). As for comparing the 2 brands, there are many more stories of 1QWKGS4 side than yours and looking at quality results, that is expected. Infiniti has very good quality, still under Lexus.

I still don't see Infiniti has a viable BMW alternative as the only car they offer a manual in is the G35. :)
I will say the G35 and M35/45 are sportier than their Lexus competition and the FX is one of the sportiest SUVs you can buy, so yes, they are the sportiest Japanese luxury brand.:thumbup:

I am giving my opinion in owning both. I chose the M45 because i didnt like the GS design. Again, my opinion

I am giving my opinion in owning both. I chose the M45 because i didnt like the GS design. Again, my opinion

I can respect your opinion here. It is a good looking car.:thumbup:

Is it me or G35s depreciate more than your average Lexus or BMW? I think the G35 is a great car for what you pay for but honestly I'd rather have a Lexus or BMW.

Is it me or G35s depreciate more than your average Lexus or BMW? I think the G35 is a great car for what you pay for but honestly I'd rather have a Lexus or BMW.
Up until the G35 coupe, resale for the brand was horrible at best. Now the G35c holds resell well, the sedan is just average. The M/FX are about average as well. The QX resale is poor.

I still don't see Infiniti has a viable BMW alternative as the only car they offer a manual in is the G35. :)

I don't see Infiniti as a BMW alternative because it's a luxury car with not as much Sport. You could say the BMW is more luxurious. Better ride, more quiet in my experience. I have several friends with rattles in their G35 coupes. From the first year models to 06. I will say though, it's not really fair to compare Infiniti to BMW simply because of price. In the car market, I see Infiniti right around or above Acura, and below BMW/Lexus.

I don't see Infiniti as a BMW alternative because it's a luxury car with not as much Sport. You could say the BMW is more luxurious. Better ride, more quiet in my experience. I have several friends with rattles in their G35 coupes. From the first year models to 06. I will say though, it's not really fair to compare Infiniti to BMW simply because of price. In the car market, I see Infiniti right around or above Acura, and below BMW/Lexus.

imo the g coupe was sportier than the e46 3 series, m excluded.
braking, handling, power, feel of operation all seemed sportier to me, although the car was less refined.

Is it me or G35s depreciate more than your average Lexus or BMW? I think the G35 is a great car for what you pay for but honestly I'd rather have a Lexus or BMW.

The only Infiniti that has residual/resale similar to BMW/Lexus is the G35 coupe. The M's may be able to reproduce that, it's too early to tell. Infiniti is struggling up a steep hill - they may be able to make it work if they keep releasing cars like the G and M, but they have a long way to go that's for sure (*cough* Q *cough*)

RE: G coupe vs e46 3-series. It was close; our 330xi has a better suspension than our stock G35 did, but I like the steering feel (and obviously power) of the G better. The G has too much nose dive and roll stock (which I think they've fixed on the new model), it's a bit like driving a really angry bull that you almost have total control over, but not quite. The 3, typically, is very predictable. It'll be interesting to see how close the new G has come to emulating the 3's chassis.

Nice pricing, the IS350 needs a six speed. I was considering a G35 coupe at one point but I love the SC too much but I will be looking at a 1st gen black M45 for my VIP Project next year.

Killer deal for a great driving car with a fantastic engine. Add all three big packages (nav, technology and premium luxury) and you still come under $38K for a 6MT model. Can you even get a base 335 for that price?

Killer deal for a great driving car with a fantastic engine. Add all three big packages (nav, technology and premium luxury) and you still come under $38K for a 6MT model. Can you even get a base 335 for that price?

Nope! They start at ~$40k. :)

imo the g coupe was sportier than the e46 3 series, m excluded.
braking, handling, power, feel of operation all seemed sportier to me, although the car was less refined.

I had limited time in the G coupe (all sport pckg), a test drives, and driving various friends' cars a few times, and the G wasn't confidence inspiring. Compared to a 3 series with a sport package, there was much more body roll in the G. While the G35 handled well, the 330 outperforms it. I can't wait to see what Infiniti does with the next G35 though. Considering it was a brand new model, Infiniti did a pretty good job. It will be interesting to see if they improved the 2nd generation as well as Lexus did with their IS.

Killer deal for a great driving car with a fantastic engine. Add all three big packages (nav, technology and premium luxury) and you still come under $38K for a 6MT model. Can you even get a base 335 for that price?

Yes you can. :)

335i Coupe
$37,350 U.S. Invoice
$34,740 European Delivery Invoice.
$40,600 MSRP

Nav $1910
Premium Package $2230
Sport Package $910
Xenon - STD
Logic 7 (Premium Sound, I would say a little bit better than ML) - STD

If you want to lease, I believe BMW's leases are some of the best around, especially if you consider the MSRP is higher than its competitors.

Im not impressed with the styling of any of the new Infiniti's the G35 and the FX are the only cars i find attractive. However Lexus make a better car and the IS350 is still the better value.

Hmm how is the IS350 a better value? Because its more expensive and doesn't come with the options the G does standard. Plus the IS is smaller.

Reliability, std. feature, dealer service, resale value. Need i say more. Oh and the IS auto is a s fast as G35 stick.

Reliability, std. feature, dealer service, resale value. Need i say more. Oh and the IS auto is a s fast as G35 stick.

The only infiniti that is not reliable is the QX56 because it is made in the US. I did hear that the QX as well as the armada may start being manufactured in japan. If that happens, say goodbye to those quality issues. Dealer service? Infiniti's dealer service is top notch from my experience. On par if not better than lexus...at least in my area. Resale value for the coupe and sedan are also good. So no the IS350 is not a better value. The G35 has everything it has plus a bigger interior cabin, a 6MT and is thousands of dollars less.

And a quote from car and driver "BMW casts a long shadow over every contender in the near-luxury segment. But the G35 now makes a fine case for itself against the 3-series, especially as it is likely to be cheaper. The G35 also brings up another comparison, to wit: Why on earth would one buy a Lexus IS350? The Lexus isn’t appreciably quicker, doesn’t look as good, and is a fairly anodyne driving experience, whereas the G35 is a very soulful machine. The Lexus has a more beautifully wrought interior than the G35’s (much improved) cabin, but that’s about its only advantage. In short, Infiniti does a much better job of being the Japanese luxury brand that makes cars we want to drive."

http://www.caranddriver.com/roadtests/11590/2007-infiniti-g35-sport-6mt-sedan-counterpoint-page3.html

Reliability, std. feature, dealer service, resale value. Need i say more. Oh and the IS auto is a s fast as G35 stick.

Like Hypn said, the G35 is the better value not the IS350. To get all the features on the IS350 you will be at a 40-45k price tag. The G35 comes standard with most of the features. A more balanced handling car, bigger, comes with a 6mt, and a bit more refined interior (not painted plastic, real alum / wood standard)

Lexus has the dealer service down well, but not a huge difference over Infiniti. The G35 has the highest resale value as of the last body style.

IS350 is probably just as fast as the G35 AUTO. It ran a 13.7 at 103 I think it was in one test and it wasn't even broken in with less than 250 miles on it. And that was a auto.

Talking about the G35 Coupe - I have had two -

1st, an '04 w/ every option
(nav/premium sport pkg with 18's & aero) -

2nd, (now) I have an '06 w/ every option (nav/premium/aero/sport pkg w/ 19's and rear active steering)..

When I had the '04 G35 - It was a fun car and right out a Blast to drive - I always felt it lack refinement and quality compared to Lexus - but if you compared it to any other brand - yea - its tops them all but under lexus..

6 months ago - I got into another G35 because of value and that I missed its great handling abilities and just right out fun car.. My first impression after 2 months of ownership - I thought "What an improvement" over the '04 that I had - wow, the '06 was so much more refined, smoother & quicker - I even metioned to a friend who owns an IS350 - that the quality of the car overall is very near lexus quality if not almost equivalent to lexus!! I was really impressed and l enjoyed my purchase - but after spending more time with the car - day in and day out - I've came up with the conclusion that though Infinit's best sports car - very sporty and somewhat luxurious - In my opinion, Infinit is still not as refined as Lexus - yes, maybe more sporty but not more luxurious or the quality - not par to lexus..

And for the BMW folks - I looked at BMW both times - compared the G35 against the 330ci Sport Pkg and picked the Infiniti both times.. BMW was alot more expensive like $47K for a 330ci Sport. Not just about price - but BMW didn't give enough performance value.

A nicely equipped IS350 is around $44K and My G35 was Stickered at $42K loaded but i got it for $34K-The only reason I picked the G35 over the IS350 was price -- The G35 was cheaper - not better - IMO..

If I hadn't got a deal on my G35 ($8K off Sticker)- I would be driving an IS now!

I agree for the older G35. The new one though is 100x better than the old one in refinement.

1. You always get what you pay for. There is better value and cheaper for a reason.
2. Lets recognize opinions and recognize facts. Big difference.
3. If we are going to quote mags, lets quote all reviews, not just the one guy that you might be related to.

Let us all be honest here. Infiniti has some nice cars:thumbup: . As a whole, the brand is still tier two, with their OWN DEALER NETWORK acknowledging this All we need to do is look at the LS 460 or LS 600L h. Nothing close.
GS 450h/RX 400h,nothing even close from a technological standpoint.
SC 430, no V-8 coupe or hardtop convert offered.

I can agree Infiniti's cars are sportier than Lexus and that is cool. Overall though, the brand has no flagship, the GT-R will be a Nissan and well, their management still puzzles me with decisons they make.

You guys are cute stating
1. The G35 coupe (one car in 17 years) has good resale
2. Infiniti dealer network in my area is the same if better than Lexus (when every report by JD Power or Consumer Reports shows Lexus is still way on top)

Lets compare BRAND to BRAND. Its really not even a close comparsion when you look at the full 17 year history of the 2 brands.

Lexus has NEVER discontinued a car. INfiniti has discontinued more cars than anyone in the history of luxury brands and they are as new as Lexus.

Now as for G35 vs IS, I don't really care as both are great cars and both are going to sell well and I am thankful Japan got their head out their arse and are offering REAL 3 series alternatives instead of b.s ES 300 and I30t like they did 10 years ago.

I mean really, why are we even arguing which car is better? Both are very good cars, the 3 is a fantastic car, most cars in this class are very good cars.

Can we all shake hands here.

Resale value and consumer values should not be intertwined. When I hear people talk about the best value or "bang for your buck" its usually regarding MSRP prices. The TL has been the best value car with a price tag of 35k fully loaded w/ nav. I think the new G is going to be the best value car. I'm actually surprised it was priced so low. Here's a quote from nissannews.com

The 2007 G35 Journey model with the optional Premium Package, which is projected as the most popular model/trim combination, is priced $700 less than the comparable 2006 model and includes the Infiniti Studio on Wheels by Bose® Premium Audio System, 10-way power driver’s seat, Bi-Xenon headlights, and Intelligent Key with Push Button Start – features that were not available on the 2006 model.

Link: http://www.nissannews.com/infiniti/news/pricing/20061027083514.shtml

No I don't work for Infiniti, I'm just excited about the car. I've considered the IS350, but it just got too pricey when I started adding packages. I priced out a G35 Sport AT w/ Premium pkg and Nav for 37,900. What is a similar priced IS350, around 43-44k?

I agree to a point. Infiniti has only discontinued only two cars. And that was the J30 and I35.

The G20 was replaced with the G35. The Qx4 was replaced with the QX56. The Q45 is Infiniti's flagship (but might be dieing as well). So the M45 might become the flagship. They have had hard times in the past and have come a long way. Give them time as you can see they are having some great cars coming out.

But case in point. If you want a Sporty Luxury car, in a good price range with good reliability and service, go get a Infiniti. If you want a pure Luxury car with not much sport but lots of comfort and luxury items, with excellent reliability (unless you get a ES350 with the Camry Tranny flaws), awesome lexus service and great resale value, get a Lexus.


1. You always get what you pay for. There is better value and cheaper for a reason.
2. Lets recognize opinions and recognize facts. Big difference.
3. If we are going to quote mags, lets quote all reviews, not just the one guy that you might be related to.

Let us all be honest here. Infiniti has some nice cars:thumbup: . As a whole, the brand is still tier two, with their OWN DEALER NETWORK acknowledging this All we need to do is look at the LS 460 or LS 600L h. Nothing close.
GS 450h/RX 400h,nothing even close from a technological standpoint.
SC 430, no V-8 coupe or hardtop convert offered.

I can agree Infiniti's cars are sportier than Lexus and that is cool. Overall though, the brand has no flagship, the GT-R will be a Nissan and well, their management still puzzles me with decisons they make.

You guys are cute stating
1. The G35 coupe (one car in 17 years) has good resale
2. Infiniti dealer network in my area is the same if better than Lexus (when every report by JD Power or Consumer Reports shows Lexus is still way on top)

Lets compare BRAND to BRAND. Its really not even a close comparsion when you look at the full 17 year history of the 2 brands.

Lexus has NEVER discontinued a car. INfiniti has discontinued more cars than anyone in the history of luxury brands and they are as new as Lexus.

According to info i read from Infiniti keyless access is an option as are the leather interior and the paddle shifts and moonroof is an option. So you have to buy the sport which is only 2k less than the IS add these options to the sport and its probably more than the IS or equal in price. Now again IS more fuel effecient, faster(auto vs. auto) more reliable, has better resale value and better dealer service so I see an IS as the better value but maybe im wrong.

Now as for G35 vs IS, I don't really care as both are great cars and both are going to sell well and I am thankful Japan got their head out their arse and are offering REAL 3 series alternatives instead of b.s ES 300 and I30t like they did 10 years ago.

I mean really, why are we even arguing which car is better? Both are very good cars, the 3 is a fantastic car, most cars in this class are very good cars.

Can we all shake hands here.

Good post. I agree.

According to info i read from Infiniti keyless access is an option as are the leather interior and the paddle shifts and moonroof is an option. So you have to buy the sport which is only 2k less than the IS add these options to the sport and its probably more than the IS or equal in price. Now again IS more fuel effecient, faster(auto vs. auto) more reliable, has better resale value and better dealer service so I see an IS as the better value but maybe im wrong.

Your reading the wrong info at the wrong place.

Keyless is standard as HID headlights. Paddles I am not sure. But I can tell you that the pricing is way different. Almost 10k difference between both cars. You don't know if the IS350 is more fuel effecient till we see reports on that. And so far it is not faster.

Okay, enough is enough. I can see where this is going and its obvious your biased. I am done.

Resale value and consumer values should not be intertwined. When I hear people talk about the best value or "bang for your buck" its usually regarding MSRP prices. The TL has been the best value car with a price tag of 35k fully loaded w/ nav. I think the new G is going to be the best value car. I'm actually surprised it was priced so low. Here's a quote from nissannews.com

The 2007 G35 Journey model with the optional Premium Package, which is projected as the most popular model/trim combination, is priced $700 less than the comparable 2006 model and includes the Infiniti Studio on Wheels by Bose® Premium Audio System, 10-way power driver’s seat, Bi-Xenon headlights, and Intelligent Key with Push Button Start – features that were not available on the 2006 model.

Link: http://www.nissannews.com/infiniti/news/pricing/20061027083514.shtml

No I don't work for Infiniti, I'm just excited about the car. I've considered the IS350, but it just got too pricey when I started adding packages. I priced out a G35 Sport AT w/ Premium pkg and Nav for 37,900. What is a similar priced IS350, around 43-44k?

"Value" is relative.
The Acura owner will say his car is the best value b/c it is loaded for say 35k but his car is FWD and Accord based with some areas not top quality and is best for the snow.
The Infiniti owner will say his car is the best value b/c for 35k you can get some options and its RWD but shares platforms with 4 or 5 other vehicles and its cheaper than the IS.
The Lexus owner will say his car is the best value b/c compared to the 3 series its cheaper and it has Lexus build quality and tons of standard features and dealer service/quality is the best but it handles not the best.
The BMW owner will say his car is the best value b/c its the standard in the class and compared to the outgoing model you get more features and more power for about the same money.

Bottom line, no one should have to really PROVE why they bought the car to anyone else. Buy it and enjoy it.

According to info i read from Infiniti keyless access is an option as are the leather interior and the paddle shifts and moonroof is an option. So you have to buy the sport which is only 2k less than the IS add these options to the sport and its probably more than the IS or equal in price. Now again IS more fuel effecient, faster(auto vs. auto) more reliable, has better resale value and better dealer service so I see an IS as the better value but maybe im wrong.

The infiniti keyless access is standard on all auto G35s..leather is standard as well. The paddle shifters are on option with the sport package. The faster and more fuel efficient parts are yet to be fully determined. All the test cars infiniti sent to mags were 250 miles or all. Most of the reviews stated that because they tested the car even before its breakin period..meaning it would probably be alot faster after breakin. Better resale value is also something that still needs to be determined with time. Better dealership service depends on which dealership you go to. Like G35_tx, im done with this topic on conversation with you as you keep repeating the same thing. 1sicklex is right. The G35 and IS are both great cars...we'll leave it at that

I agree for the older G35. The new one though is 100x better than the old one in refinement.

I hope so! I always like to see improvement..I'm looking forward to driving the New G35) I heard Infiniti is coming out with different variant models like a Hardtop Convert G35 (rumors?)..


Anyways - I'm a Big fan of both Brands!! Lets Shake hands and go get a Beer!! :thumbup:

The 2007 G35 Journey model with the optional Premium Package, which is projected as the most popular model/trim combination, is priced $700 less than the comparable 2006 model and includes the Infiniti Studio on Wheels by Bose® Premium Audio System, 10-way power driver’s seat, Bi-Xenon headlights, and Intelligent Key with Push Button Start – features that were not available on the 2006 model.


According to this im reading it write it mentions the Journey which isnt the base model with the OPTIONAL premium package which includes smartkey, 10 way power seats, and push button start which are all standard on the IS350 also the paddles are included only on the sport model add in an auto to make it fair and i bet the IS350 is cheaper or not much more. Add in higher resale value, better dealer service and better reliability and the Lexus is the value champ. No im not biased but if the infiniti were the better value i would say it was but i dont see that. Plus its ugly at least the last model looked decent this one is ugly.

"Value" is relative.
The Acura owner will say his car is the best value b/c it is loaded for say 35k but his car is FWD and Accord based with some areas not top quality and is best for the snow.
The Infiniti owner will say his car is the best value b/c for 35k you can get some options and its RWD but shares platforms with 4 or 5 other vehicles and its cheaper than the IS.
The Lexus owner will say his car is the best value b/c compared to the 3 series its cheaper and it has Lexus build quality and tons of standard features and dealer service/quality is the best but it handles not the best.
The BMW owner will say his car is the best value b/c its the standard in the class and compared to the outgoing model you get more features and more power for about the same money.

Bottom line, no one should have to really PROVE why they bought the car to anyone else. Buy it and enjoy it.


:thumbup: :thumbup:

The 2007 G35 Journey model with the optional Premium Package, which is projected as the most popular model/trim combination, is priced $700 less than the comparable 2006 model and includes the Infiniti Studio on Wheels by Bose® Premium Audio System, 10-way power driver’s seat, Bi-Xenon headlights, and Intelligent Key with Push Button Start – features that were not available on the 2006 model.


According to this im reading it write it mentions the Journey which isnt the base model with the OPTIONAL premium package which includes smartkey, 10 way power seats, and push button start which are all standard on the IS350 also the paddles are included only on the sport model add in an auto to make it fair and i bet the IS350 is cheaper or not much more. Add in higher resale value, better dealer service and better reliability and the Lexus is the value champ. No im not biased but if the infiniti were the better value i would say it was but i dont see that. Plus its ugly at least the last model looked decent this one is ugly.

You are seriously just making me laugh now

The infiniti keyless access is standard on all auto G35s..leather is standard as well. The paddle shifters are on option with the sport package. The faster and more fuel efficient parts are yet to be fully determined. All the test cars infiniti sent to mags were 250 miles or all. Most of the reviews stated that because they tested the car even before its breakin period..meaning it would probably be alot faster after breakin. Better resale value is also something that still needs to be determined with time. Better dealership service depends on which dealership you go to. Like G35_tx, im done with this topic on conversation with you as you keep repeating the same thing. 1sicklex is right. The G35 and IS are both great cars...we'll leave it at that

I mean honestly, the new G35 IMO has big winner all over.
1. Cheapest
2. Upgraded interior
3. MANUAL IS AVAILABLE
4. As big as cars in the class above it
5. I am sure quality will be very good.
6. Fast and handles well.
7. Decent good looks.

Nissan, IMO, really improved on all the pros of the current G35 and really cut the negatives of the previous model.

No crap, I am very impressed:thumbup: :thumbup:

This leads me to believe the next M35/45 is going to be another home run.

Heres some info from when C&D drove the G35.

Here is Car & Driver's test result on new G35 sedan.

0-30 2.0
0-40 2.8
0-50 4.0
0-60 5.2
0-70 6.9
0-80 8.6
0-90 10.5
0-100 13.1
0-110 15.8
0-120 19.0
0-130 23.8
0-140 30.2
0-150 38.2
Standing 1/4 mile 13.9 sec@103mph




Fuel Economy
EPA city driving 18mpg
EPA highway driving 25 mpg

Interior Sound Level
idle 41dBA
full throttle acceleration 79dBA
70 mph crusing 67dBA

So looks like IS is a little faster(the infiniti was a manual) and is easier on gas and its quieter. Someone give me a reason to buy it over the IS besides lower price.

You obviously DO NOT LISTEN. This is hilarous. The IS350 didn't get a good time till it was broken in more. 250 miles is not broken in yet. Per the C&D:

"More impressive still, our G35 tester went to the track with fewer than 250 miles on the odo. That’s like putting an Olympic sprinter in the starting blocks in his street clothes. What’ll it do with a proper break-in? We look forward to finding out."

And here is the test on the IS350


"It also has 306 ponies from an all-new 3.5-liter V-6, enough to make 60 mph in 5.1 seconds and sear your quarter-mile in 13.7 seconds at 104 mph with a few flicks of the steering-wheel paddles controlling the six-speed automatic. Every other car here sucks its dust. Welcome to the most exuberant Lexus ever built."

So in reality it isn't that much faster and the g35 wasn't even broken in. So QUIT bashing the G35. Like 1Sick said, both are great cars. Both Equally as good.

NOT ONE IS BETTER THAN THE OTHER REALLY EXCEPT in pricing.

Whatever i dont see any reason besides lower pricing to buy the infiniti. The Lexus to me is clear winner. Sorry they just make great cars. Not that infiniti doesnt it just that there too much like nissan and im not liking the styling. Last G35 was a good car new one ugly new m45 ugly old one was a good looking car.

LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

There are many reasons. You are not worth my time anymore.

So looks like IS is a little faster(the infiniti was a manual) and is easier on gas and its quieter. Someone give me a reason to buy it over the IS besides lower price.

Perhaps it's not all about straight line speed? Some people like a more engaging ride. Don't get me wrong, I think the IS is a very good car - in fact I would very heartily recommend anyone in the market for a car in this range give it a serious look, and can understand why people choose to buy it; that said my *current* G35 has a stiffer suspension and better road feedback, so unless Infiniti has made the new G softer (every indication is they have not) it will be the sportier car, which is clearly what some people want. Different strokes for different folks. :)

Now thats Funny! C'mon dude face it- Numbers don't lie and that Most IS350 owners are running low 13's in their cars - They are both equally good cars but one of them is just a little bit faster - there has to be a winner and a loser - and its just fact that Lexus is the overall winner! but for price wise Infiniti wins for more value in the same class...

Sums it up perfectly.

Faster? By one test? Go by the other Tests the IS350 got, it was slower than this one test the G35 got.

Wait for more tests, and break in time. Then we can discuss then. Until then I don't call either of them faster.

Faster? By one test? Go by the other Tests the IS350 got, it was slower than this one test the G35 got.

Wait for more tests, and break in time. Then we can discuss then. Until then I don't call either of them faster.


True-True , I agree.. lets wait for more test - but how do you account for people with IS350 on CL running low 13's with proven time slips.. :thumbup:

I am sure there are people running on CL those times, maybe with mild mods too. But there will be some with the G35 as well doing that.

Guys please respect each others opinions. Some will prefer the Lex, some will prefer the Infiniti....
We do not have to go back and forth with each post/point.

According to info i read from Infiniti keyless access is an option as are the leather interior and the paddle shifts and moonroof is an option. So you have to buy the sport which is only 2k less than the IS add these options to the sport and its probably more than the IS or equal in price. Now again IS more fuel effecient, faster(auto vs. auto) more reliable, has better resale value and better dealer service so I see an IS as the better value but maybe im wrong.

I read all your posts in this thread, and you sound like you want to do whatever to protect the IS....You give me that "Why, oh why can Infiniti be able to sell it for so low, and Lexus can't" feeling.

I cant believe the past couple pages; absolutely hilarious. I didnt know Lexus owners were so arrogant until 10 minutes ago... Why do we argue about .2 seconds in the 1/4? How practical is that number for most daily drivers who are buying these cars? Im not totally sure, but I dont think the 58 year old women across the street from me who just got an IS350 cares much about 1/4 mile or 0-60. I bet she does care though that the car is quiet and rides very well... These arguments are such moot points as we see IS350s running mid-low 13s in the 1/4 mile, however, I dont think we've seen those types of numbers in magazine reviews. So give the G35 some time to prove itself before you definitively say which is clearly faster. Let give G owners a chance to run their new cars and see some time slips.

I dont really like the argument of the reliability of the IS being superior to the G's because the fact is we just dont know. We dont know how well made the new G is, so to say that the IS is more reliable than the G is a big assumption. We know Lexus/Toyota in generally are pretty much the most reliable, and the IS is probably no exception. However, with the G, the previous generation was pretty reliable and what makes us think it hasnt improved any? I dont think many people had serious reliability issues with the Gs. The resale value issue is a non issue. We dont know, as with the reliability, how the G will fair. The previous G did fairly well with its' resale value, so how do we come to the definitive answer that the new one will not have equal or greater resale value than that of the past generation G?

As stated numerous times before, both are great cars and great alternatives to the 3 series. However, each will attract it's own type of buyer so I think in the end the actual consumers will decide which is the better car/better value. Not us nor a magazine, but rather sales numbers will prove imo which car people valued the most.

The 2007 G35 Journey model with the optional Premium Package, which is projected as the most popular model/trim combination, is priced $700 less than the comparable 2006 model and includes the Infiniti Studio on Wheels by Bose® Premium Audio System, 10-way power driver’s seat, Bi-Xenon headlights, and Intelligent Key with Push Button Start – features that were not available on the 2006 model.


According to this im reading it write it mentions the Journey which isnt the base model with the OPTIONAL premium package which includes smartkey, 10 way power seats, and push button start which are all standard on the IS350 also the paddles are included only on the sport model add in an auto to make it fair and i bet the IS350 is cheaper or not much more. Add in higher resale value, better dealer service and better reliability and the Lexus is the value champ. No im not biased but if the infiniti were the better value i would say it was but i dont see that. Plus its ugly at least the last model looked decent this one is ugly.

Heres the answer to your "Intelligent Push start key" answer:

"The 2007 G35 Sedan remains a showcase for Infiniti’s technology and engineering leadership with the available advanced technologies that include RearView Monitor, touch-screen, Infiniti Navigation System with voice recognition, Intelligent Cruise Control (ICC) with Preview Braking, Adaptive Front lighting System (AFS), Infiniti’s Intelligent All-Wheel Drive system - ATTESA E-TS (Advanced Total Traction Engineering System for All Electronic Torque Split) - and 4-Wheel Active Steer. Intelligent Key with Push Button Ignition comes standard on all 2007 G35 Sedan models."

I read all your posts in this thread, and you sound like you want to do whatever to protect the IS....You give me that "Why, oh why can Infiniti be able to sell it for so low, and Lexus can't" feeling.

With all of 8 posts, clearly your a Nissan fan. I suggest please tone it down some and everyone stop picking and choosing what to debate.

And Lexus fans and Lexus are not complaining about charging a higher price as most of us do believe it is worth EVERY PENNY. Seeing they are also the best selling brand 6 going on 7 years in a row, the price must be right:) :woohoo: ;)

Infiniti does not have the luxury of charging as much as the tier one brands, they know this and have been very successful with the G35 and M35/45 pricing below the competiton.

Lexus WAS the same way but their managment really had just tremendous vision of where they saw the brand. Thus you now have not just an expanded Lexus lineup but we are seeing the most expensive Lexus ever produced! Loaded at $94,000 LS 460 L. And the $100,000 Lexus is coming with the LS 600L h!:woot:

I cant believe the past couple pages; absolutely hilarious. I didnt know Lexus owners were so arrogant until 10 minutes ago... Why do we argue about .2 seconds in the 1/4? How practical is that number for most daily drivers who are buying these cars? Im not totally sure, but I dont think the 58 year old women across the street from me who just got an IS350 cares much about 1/4 mile or 0-60. I bet she does care though that the car is quiet and rides very well... These arguments are such moot points as we see IS350s running mid-low 13s in the 1/4 mile, however, I dont think we've seen those types of numbers in magazine reviews. So give the G35 some time to prove itself before you definitively say which is clearly faster. Let give G owners a chance to run their new cars and see some time slips.

I dont really like the argument of the reliability of the IS being superior to the G's because the fact is we just dont know. We dont know how well made the new G is, so to say that the IS is more reliable than the G is a big assumption. We know Lexus/Toyota in generally are pretty much the most reliable, and the IS is probably no exception. However, with the G, the previous generation was pretty reliable and what makes us think it hasnt improved any? I dont think many people had serious reliability issues with the Gs. The resale value issue is a non issue. We dont know, as with the reliability, how the G will fair. The previous G did fairly well with its' resale value, so how do we come to the definitive answer that the new one will not have equal or greater resale value than that of the past generation G?

As stated numerous times before, both are great cars and great alternatives to the 3 series. However, each will attract it's own type of buyer so I think in the end the actual consumers will decide which is the better car/better value. Not us nor a magazine, but rather sales numbers will prove imo which car people valued the most.

Pot calling the kettle black. Please do not say Lexus owners are arrogant when the same can be said the other way around. This is a Lexus forum. If this conversation was on a Nissan forum it would be the other way around:)

Heres the answer to your "Intelligent Push start key" answer:

"The 2007 G35 Sedan remains a showcase for Infiniti’s technology and engineering leadership with the available advanced technologies that include RearView Monitor, touch-screen, Infiniti Navigation System with voice recognition, Intelligent Cruise Control (ICC) with Preview Braking, Adaptive Front lighting System (AFS), Infiniti’s Intelligent All-Wheel Drive system - ATTESA E-TS (Advanced Total Traction Engineering System for All Electronic Torque Split) - and 4-Wheel Active Steer. Intelligent Key with Push Button Ignition comes standard on all 2007 G35 Sedan models."

So basically Infiniti is stating two different things. In the press release for the price they say its included with the Premium package on the Journey model and one place they say it std. on all cars. So dont get mad at me cause infiniti messed up not my fault. At least Lexus gets there info correct another reason i like them better theyre not stupid.

I never saw where Infiniti got it wrong. You got it wrong. MSMLexIS, I am gonna ask you nicely. To Tone it down some. You are obviously biased towards the IS and you have shown that. No need to bash the G35 anymore.

This is right out - getting to be a flame thread - I had no intentions of stirring this round and round - clearly they are both great brands - I should know best - I own both Infinti and Lexus.. Granted I haven't driven the new G35 yet, I don't know how much it improved - but judging from past experiences, accounts and personal experience - if you asked me which brand would I choose - I would choose Lexus first - this is my present opinion - I'm a fair person and when I drive the new G35 - and feel its a better car than the IS350 - I would amit that - I owned both so whats that matter to me?.. It would be great for Infiniti to surpass Lexus - it would raise the bar and then Lexus would have to do better (the benefits of competition) and bring out a better car.. and here we go again.. I say if you like it - buy it - you don't have to prove to anyone or justify your purchase.. Look at me - I love the G35 - bought 2 of them!! I love The GS400 had mine for almost 8 years now since new.. Last words -- Its all Good!!

Pot calling the kettle black.

Right... I forogt, all previous posts were also unbiased... I dont think this thread serves much purpose anymore, why is it still open?

You obviously DO NOT LISTEN. This is hilarous. The IS350 didn't get a good time till it was broken in more. 250 miles is not broken in yet. Per the C&D:

"More impressive still, our G35 tester went to the track with fewer than 250 miles on the odo. That’s like putting an Olympic sprinter in the starting blocks in his street clothes. What’ll it do with a proper break-in? We look forward to finding out."

And here is the test on the IS350


"It also has 306 ponies from an all-new 3.5-liter V-6, enough to make 60 mph in 5.1 seconds and sear your quarter-mile in 13.7 seconds at 104 mph with a few flicks of the steering-wheel paddles controlling the six-speed automatic. Every other car here sucks its dust. Welcome to the most exuberant Lexus ever built."

So in reality it isn't that much faster and the g35 wasn't even broken in. So QUIT bashing the G35. Like 1Sick said, both are great cars. Both Equally as good.

NOT ONE IS BETTER THAN THE OTHER REALLY EXCEPT in pricing.
and Lexus sent them car with 10,000 miles? :-).
Not to meantion that those are MT numbers, not AT, so apples to apples, difference will be bigger.

In great scheme of life, 0.2, 0.3, 0.4 sec differences really dont matter.

But on these forums, it only doesnt matter when Lexus is Faster. If G35 did 5.0, we would have hundreds of Infiniti owners claiming how IS350 is slow.

:-).

And same goes for BMW fans - 335 Coupe - 0-60 in 4.9 and suddenly 5.1 is way, way too slow for IS350 with AT :-).

The current G35 manual and auto run the same times. I doubt it will be much different in the new one.

This is right out - getting to be a flame thread - I had no intentions of stirring this round and round - clearly they are both great brands - I should know best - I own both Infinti and Lexus.. Granted I haven't driven the new G35 yet, I don't know how much it improved - but judging from past experiences, accounts and personal experience - if you asked me which brand would I choose - I would choose Lexus first - this is my present opinion - I'm a fair person and when I drive the new G35 - and feel its a better car than the IS350 - I would amit that - I owned both so whats that matter to me?.. It would be great for Infiniti to surpass Lexus - it would raise the bar and then Lexus would have to do better (the benefits of competition) and bring out a better car.. and here we go again.. I say if you like it - buy it - you don't have to prove to anyone or justify your purchase.. Look at me - I love the G35 - bought 2 of them!! I love The GS400 had mine for almost 8 years now since new.. Last words -- Its all Good!!


Thank you Don. Clearly a man OWNING two (And hell I have seen both in person, not some guy hiding behind a keyboard) would know the pros/cons of both very well. Thank you for your input.

Right... I forogt, all previous posts were also unbiased... I dont think this thread serves much purpose anymore, why is it still open?
If you have any issues, the rules are to protest them in PM. PM a mod/super-mod or admin.

This thread serves a purpose and I am trying to guide it towards sanity the best I can. I or the moderator time will decide when it should be closed.
I never saw where Infiniti got it wrong. You got it wrong. MSMLexIS, I am gonna ask you nicely. To Tone it down some. You are obviously biased towards the IS and you have shown that. No need to bash the G35 anymore.
If you have any issues, the rules are to protest them in PM. PM a mod/super-mod or admin.

This is a LEXUS forum, clearly we will try our best but OWNERS will be biased to what they OWN. Your tone is now out of line.

Now can everyone step away from the keyboard and relax.

Just to clear up some things. The intelligent key is standard on the base G. If anything go to the website and check the spec sheet. It doesnt get any clearer than that.

Both cars are fast. It doesn't matter if one car is .1 sec faster, bottom line is stock for stock neither car will "smoke" the other.

Why buy the G over the IS other than the price? How about a 6mt. Some enthusiasts will not drive an auto. Handling. I think the G is closing the gap on the 3er in this department. Can anybody really say the IS has better handling with a straight face? I've driven the IS at Taste of Lexus... and all I gotta say is that its a Lexus :). Soul. The IS is quiet and muted. Some people like that. But for those requiring a more sporty ride the G has the exhaust note.

And Lexus fans and Lexus are not complaining about charging a higher price as most of us do believe it is worth EVERY PENNY. Seeing they are also the best selling brand 6 going on 7 years in a row, the price must be right:) :woohoo: ;)
Infiniti does not have the luxury of charging as much as the tier one brands, they know this and have been very successful with the G35 and M35/45 pricing below the competiton.
Lexus WAS the same way but their managment really had just tremendous vision of where they saw the brand. Thus you now have not just an expanded Lexus lineup but we are seeing the most expensive Lexus ever produced! Loaded at $94,000 LS 460 L. And the $100,000 Lexus is coming with the LS 600L h!:woot:
Well put Mike. If Infiniti and Lexus were priced more closely, no one would buy the Infiniti. It's the only way Infiniti can survive and they clearly know it. Infiniti is producing better products these days and they're a good value for that price point, but I'll take a Lexus over Infiniti any day.

Now can everyone step away from the keyboard and relax.
Please take this to heart guys. Both IS and G are nice cars. Some drivers will like one while others will like the other. Nothing wrong with it. If you own one of these, enjoy it. There is no need to defend your decision to own the car. Just go for a drive and enjoy it while letting your fellow enthusiast enjoy his/hers.

Discuss if you must but please tone down the jabs.

I never saw where Infiniti got it wrong. You got it wrong. MSMLexIS, I am gonna ask you nicely. To Tone it down some. You are obviously biased towards the IS and you have shown that. No need to bash the G35 anymore.

Im not biased i like infiniti but they only have two products i like the FX and the G35 coupe. The new G35 is ugly and the IS is still faster. So you get what you pay for i just see the IS as a better value but maybe its just me but theres more to value than price.

Well put Mike. If Infiniti and Lexus were priced more closely, no one would buy the Infiniti. It's the only way Infiniti can survive and they clearly know it. Infiniti is producing better products these days and they're a good value for that price point, but I'll take a Lexus over Infiniti any day.

I agree to an extent. I know that hands down Lexus has better reliabilty, and imo, much more luxury. While Infiniti tends to pack a lot of tech into their cars it always seems peicemeal. There are only a few brands where the interior really "coddles" you, Lexus, Audi, and some higher end brands. The fit and finish of Lexus' are without question some of the best in the industry - but in this case I am going to again say "different strokes for different folks", when I bought both my G coupe and sedan had the IS300 or now the IS350 been prices the same I'd have still bought the G's. Why? I liked the cars despite their shortcomings. I loved the design, I loved the engine, I loved the chassis and heavy steering, so I was willing to overlook the absolutely mediocre interior, some rattles, and poor mpg.

So ya, you may take a Lexus over an Infiniti at the same price any day, and so mich most people, but I don't think *everyone* would. (FWIW, I agree that Infiniti needs to price aggressively to sell in great enough numbers, but I think if they were priced in line with Lexus they would lose more sales to BMW than Lexus, just imo of course).

Im not biased i like infiniti but they only have two products i like the FX and the G35 coupe. The new G35 is ugly and the IS is still faster. So you get what you pay for i just see the IS as a better value but maybe its just me but theres more to value than price.

Ugly is subjective. I think it's ugly too, but a lot of people don't. And fwiw, again, speed isn't everything. I've never been a mag racing 0.1 touting junky. I've always contended there is much more to the way a car drives than it's straight line acceleration. The IS a magnificent car, but the G may offer something in the way of drivability that it does not.

Im not biased i like infiniti but they only have two products i like the FX and the G35 coupe. The new G35 is ugly and the IS is still faster. So you get what you pay for i just see the IS as a better value but maybe its just me but theres more to value than price.



:rolleyes: Still at it I see. Others already told you it is not faster. .1 is not faster. Until you can actually prove the IS is a better value to us, it is still not.

Oops i forgot to read your sig. Noticed youve never owned a Lexus so you cant take in to fact the higher resale value the improved reliabilty or the better customer service. Also the prices for the G35 dont include the 700 dollar dest charge nor have we seen what options are on the G35 there may be additional stuff thats std on the IS thats opt. on the G35. When the infiniti site is updated ill have more info to prove my case. Oh and im not biased.

MSMLexIS, G35_TX, you two please knock it off and make this an impersonal discussion about the G35 and not the people talking about the vehicle.

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Dave no problem. I am done.

Btw I did own a RX300.

I've sifted through all the nonsense and summarized as follows :

Size : GS > G35 > IS -> I do need a decent back seat, IS doesn't provide!
Style : GS > IS > G35 -> Infiniti has come a long way but this is my preference, don't argue, it's subjective.
Performance : G35=IS > GS
Luxury : GS > IS > G35
Handling : G35 > IS > GS
Value : G35 > IS > GS (this is the biggie, the price of the infiniti really is a wow)
Interior : GS > G35 = IS (subjective again)
Overal Brand : Lexus > Infiniti

One other thing, no IS350 AWD, that's a booboo for Lexus, also no GS460AWD. Makes me sad!

"Value" is a subjective figure as well IMHO. Anyone have pics of the new coupe?

I wonder what the new production coupe will look like compared to the concept coupe??? I hope it loses the point in the middle of the front bumper.

"Nissan dudes" (meaning guys in charge) said 90% of it will translate to the production car. I'd guess the interior will be entirely different (obv) and it'll lose the panoramic moonroof, otherwise I'd say you're lookin at the '08 coupe.

I've also heard that the production version will look "more square" than the concept coupe .....

The concept coupe...so beautiful

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b282/joeym43/06naias-0066.jpg

http://www.nissannews.com/multimedia/2006autoshows_infiniti/800px/Coup%20Concept1.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v400/ut0t1/2006%20Detroit%20Autoshow/973ece8f.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v400/ut0t1/2006%20Detroit%20Autoshow/ccfc23dc.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v400/ut0t1/2006%20Detroit%20Autoshow/79d498ac.jpg

Yeah! Thats pretty awesome.. My '06 G35 Coupe will be out of lease on May
'08 - Just in time for a new one, But by then there be plenty of choices - Skyline GTR, New G35 Coupe, New Supra, and hopefully an IS350 Coupe... I guess we've have to wait to see what they'll look like..

I really like that exhaust cutout and how it fits into the bumper perfectly. Though that bumper might not be aftermarket-exhaust friendly.

I cant wait to see the full production of the interior.

I'd guess the interior will be similar to the '07 sedan, just like the last gen was - Nissan/Infiniti may be trying to go more upscale, but lord knows they still love parts sharing. :)

On the exhaust, I'd have to guess that won't be in production. I may be wrong, who knows, but I doubt somehow I don't see them making such a proprietary system. We'll see. (I like it too, btw).

You have to get the sport to get the paddle shift and a few other features that are standard on the IS350. Also th base price is lower but the IS has more standard features. Keyless access and start are standard, leather seats are standard and moonroof, plus the paddleshifters are standard and last time i checked HID are optional on G35. So comparably equipped the IS may be the better value.

I don't think so. When comparably equipped, you can only buy a IS250 for the price of G35. IS350 is still about 5-8 thousands dollars higher. A fully loaded G35 sedan costs about $38.5k, when a fully loaded IS250 is already a $40k car, and a fully loaded IS350 costs about $46k.

"Value" is relative.
The Acura owner will say his car is the best value b/c it is loaded for say 35k but his car is FWD and Accord based with some areas not top quality and is best for the snow.
The Infiniti owner will say his car is the best value b/c for 35k you can get some options and its RWD but shares platforms with 4 or 5 other vehicles and its cheaper than the IS.
The Lexus owner will say his car is the best value b/c compared to the 3 series its cheaper and it has Lexus build quality and tons of standard features and dealer service/quality is the best but it handles not the best.
The BMW owner will say his car is the best value b/c its the standard in the class and compared to the outgoing model you get more features and more power for about the same money.

Bottom line, no one should have to really PROVE why they bought the car to anyone else. Buy it and enjoy it.


I agree. How come I can not say something as intelligent as you, when we think the same way?

I A fully loaded G35 sedan costs about $38.5k, when a fully loaded IS250 is already a $40k car, and a fully loaded IS350 costs about $46k.
That's with the Lexus Pre-Collision System and Dynamic Radar Cruise Control (a $3k option) correct ? Does the new G35 sedan have similar options ?

We aren't even offered the PCS & Radar cruise options for the IS350 in Canada I think . . .

That's with the Lexus Pre-Collision System and Dynamic Radar Cruise Control (a $3k option) correct ? Does the new G35 sedan have similar options ?

We aren't even offered the PCS & Radar cruise options for the IS350 in Canada I think . . .
yep... but Nissan folks wont that detter them comparing "fully equipped" versions :P

So when does the new coupe go on sale. Coupe concept looks better than the ugly sedan.

MSM, how many more rude comments are you going to make? I think people are sick of you in this thread already.

I still think this new G35 and IS350 are still big competition for the 335 sedan, moreso on the infiniti, very similar power but significantly cheaper when similarly equipped

This is a picture i found on the net. It does appear to be badged as a nissan. Plus from how it looks, it does look sculpted a little more fluently like the new coupe concept and has very similar headlights like the coupe concept. Whats your take on this?

Not liking that coupe concept drawing. The coupe is supposed to come out next Spring as an 08 model. I think around April.

I wonder if the coupe will have more power than the sedan like the past models. Hopefully the coupe and sedan look nothing alike.

MSMLexIS, G35_TX, you two please knock it off and make this an impersonal discussion about the G35 and not the people talking about the vehicle.

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Dave no problem. I am done.



MSM, how many more rude comments are you going to make? I think people are sick of you in this thread already.


G35_TX, check your PM.

This is a picture i found on the net. It does appear to be badged as a nissan. Plus from how it looks, it does look sculpted a little more fluently like the new coupe concept and has very similar headlights like the coupe concept. Whats your take on this?

This is a very old drawing...even before the coupe concept

So is the new GTR going to use the G35 coupe platform. Also is it going to be a skyline or just called GTR.

This is a picture i found on the net. It does appear to be badged as a nissan. Plus from how it looks, it does look sculpted a little more fluently like the new coupe concept and has very similar headlights like the coupe concept. Whats your take on this?

It appears to be badged as a Nissan because in Japan (where this drawing is likely from) there is no Infiniti branding. The Infiniti nameplate is only in the U.S. for now.

So is the new GTR going to use the G35 coupe platform. Also is it going to be a skyline or just called GTR.

The new GT-R is the first "skyline GT-R" to share no chassis with any other nissan vehicle. All previous GT-R's have shared a chassis with the skyline sedan.

It appears to be badged as a Nissan because in Japan (where this drawing is likely from) there is no Infiniti branding. The Infiniti nameplate is only in the U.S. for now.

Infiniti exists in some other places..just not japan currently

Infiniti exists in some other places..just not japan currently

Just not Japan? Where else is Infiniti sold, beside Canada? Isnt Infiniti just now starting to sell outside NA starting with some of the '07-'08 models? I thought it was just Nissan everywhere else to date? Also, I thought the GT-R isnt going to bare the "Skyline" nameplate as the V35 = Skyline = G35...?

I think Infiniti are just introduced to Russia, & also S.Korea. . .

1. Skyline has always been sedan based. It wasn't until the R32 did we get the "badass" GT-R form...but it was still sedan based (R33 and R34 as well).
2. The Nissan Skyline in Japan and continues to be the Infiniti G35 in America.
3. For the first time, the GT-R will be a seperate model. So you have SKyline and now you will have GT-R. However, I am not sure if the GT-R will be a modified FM platform or be a totally new platform. Ghosen is adamant if the car will not make money, it will not be so I can't see how it won't share some sort of major mechanicals somewhere.
4. Infiniti exists outside the United States in very small markets (countries) and began selling in Russia this year. They are not in Europe.

When does this thing go on sale? My gs430 has pissed me off, and is most likely getting traded in for one of this babies.

It's on sale; they're arriving at dealerships now.

Im hoping infiniti updates the website soon. Still not liking the styling but the car is somewhat interesting.

Still not liking the styling but the car is somewhat interesting.

S Coupe concept looks better than the ugly sedan.

Hopefully the coupe and sedan look nothing alike.

IThe new G35 is ugly

Plus its ugly at least the last model looked decent this one is ugly.

Last G35 was a good car new one ugly

Im not impressed with the styling of any of the new Infiniti's

If it werent so ugly it would probably sell like hot cakes.

So MSM, how do you feel about the styling of the new G35? :D

So MSM, how do you feel about the styling of the new G35? :D

hahaha, never seen a bigger G35 hater ;)

So MSM, how do you feel about the styling of the new G35? :D

How long did it take you to sift through all these posts? lol

So MSM, how do you feel about the styling of the new G35? :D

LOL..that funny :D

So MSM, how do you feel about the styling of the new G35? :D

my wild guess is that he's going to say ........... ugly? :D :D :D

Well I've said knock it off, Dave said knock it off and some of you DID NOT get the memo.

Closed.

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