Notices
Car Chat General discussion about Lexus, other auto manufacturers and automotive news.
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by: Innova

V8 Acura in the works

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Dec 11, 2006 | 07:55 AM
  #1  
Gojirra99's Avatar
Gojirra99
Thread Starter
CL Community Team
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Oct 2002
Posts: 30,283
Likes: 363
From: Canada
Default V8 Acura in the works


V8 Acura in the works

Posted Dec 11th 2006 8:09AM

It's been speculated for some time that sales of Acura's luxo-barge offerings may be hindered by the automaker's lack of offering V8 power. According to Automotive News, this problem may be remedied soon.

In an interview with Honda's president of R&D in the States, Hirohide Ikeno, he hinted that a new direction for Acura powerplants would debut at the upcoming Detroit auto show in January.

"I'm pushing for it," he said. "That is our direction." Acura is often criticized for not offering V8 engines with any of its cars. Ikeno said V8s are only being considered for Acura, and none would appear in the Honda lineup.

It's already been confirmed that the new NSX, due in 2009, will likely get a mid-ship V10, drawing credibility from Honda's 8- and 12-cyclinder racing mills. That kind of power is necessary in the supercar market and a V8 option is a necessity if an automaker hopes to compete with other luxury sedans.

[Source: Automotive News -- Sub. Req.]
source : autoblog

Last edited by Gojirra99; Dec 11, 2006 at 08:13 AM.
Reply
Old Dec 11, 2006 | 07:56 AM
  #2  
plex's Avatar
plex
1UZFE/2JZGTE
iTrader: (11)
 
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 13,273
Likes: 76
From: MD
Default

About time, I wish the previous generation RL was a RWD V8. Maybe they will put this V8 in the Ridgeline.
Reply
Old Dec 11, 2006 | 08:03 AM
  #3  
ff_'s Avatar
ff_
Lexus Champion
 
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 1,600
Likes: 0
From: FL
Default

Originally Posted by cherplex
About time, I wish the previous generation RL was a RWD V8. Maybe they will put this V8 in the Ridgeline.
1/2 of the problem with the RL is no V8 option. The other 1/2 is no RWD (which is the same problem with the TL).

The Ridgeline... I don't see any point in making it V8 if they don't make it a proper RWD layout. In its current form, it doesn't appeal to anyone that buys trucks for utility. It's really little more than an (ugly) fashion statement, and so a FWD V6 is just fine.
Reply
Old Dec 11, 2006 | 08:04 AM
  #4  
GSteg's Avatar
GSteg
Rookie
20 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Shutterbug
iTrader: (15)
 
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 16,018
Likes: 81
From: CA
Default

It's about time!
Reply
Old Dec 11, 2006 | 08:18 AM
  #5  
Lexmex's Avatar
Lexmex
CL Community Team
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 17,337
Likes: 213
From: Miami, Florida
Default

To me it is just nuts that Honda took so long to come up with this for Acura.

I went with a couple of friends to a Honda dealership on Sunday and they wanted to see the Ridgeline and they couldn't believe it when the dealer (I told them beforehand, but they wanted to hear it for themselves) that the Honda RL had no V8.
Reply
Old Dec 11, 2006 | 08:24 AM
  #6  
marshmallo's Avatar
marshmallo
Lexus Champion
 
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 2,184
Likes: 1
From: MA
Default

Now what they need is a REAL RWD based flagship.

Just dropping this into the RL as is will not work.
Reply
Old Dec 11, 2006 | 08:34 AM
  #7  
Threxx's Avatar
Threxx
Lexus Champion
 
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 3,474
Likes: 2
From: Tennessee
Default

Originally Posted by Lexmex
To me it is just nuts that Honda took so long to come up with this for Acura.

I went with a couple of friends to a Honda dealership on Sunday and they wanted to see the Ridgeline and they couldn't believe it when the dealer (I told them beforehand, but they wanted to hear it for themselves) that the Honda RL had no V8.
The RL is really not much different in size than a Toyota Tacoma, which doesn't have a V8, either.

And the Tacoma is much more of a truck anyway - true RWD, fully body on frame design.

The Ridgeline is built on a hybrid BOF/UB chassis and has a FWD/AWD drivetrain layout. It's basically a minivan with a truck bed, some tframe rails added and AWD made available.
Reply
Old Dec 11, 2006 | 09:28 AM
  #8  
mmarshall's Avatar
mmarshall
Lexus Fanatic
Community Builder
Community Influencer
Liked
Loved
 
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 94,602
Likes: 271
From: Virginia/D.C. suburbs
Default

Originally Posted by ff_
1/2 of the problem with the RL is no V8 option. The other 1/2 is no RWD (which is the same problem with the TL).
Only with image...on paper. In actuality, the RL's V6 has close to V8 power...and more than enough to handle the SH-AWD. A V8 for ther RL, IMO, is unneeded....although I know that some others do not agree, and respect that.

And why go to RWD when Acura has already taken the time and expense to engineer one of the best AWD systems in the world for the RL?
Reply
ClubLexus Stories

Celebrating Lexus & Toyota from Around the Globe

story-0

2026 Lexus IS 350 F Sport Review: The Last of Its Kind Still Rocks

 Michael S. Palmer
story-1

Top 10 Most Confusing Things Lexus Has Ever Done!

 Joe Kucinski
story-2

2026 Lexus ES Review: Lexus Re-Embraces Founding Principles

 Michael S. Palmer
story-3

10 Lexus Bargains That are Cheaper Than a New Toyota RAV4

 Joe Kucinski
story-4

8 Weirdest Things Lexus Has Ever Built

 Verdad Gallardo
story-5

10 Lexus Designs That Have Aged Like Fine Wine

 Verdad Gallardo
story-6

8 Tips for Improving Your Hybrid or Plug-in Hybrid's Efficiency!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-7

10 Best Lexus Models No One Remembers

 Joe Kucinski
story-8

TRD Off-Road Premium: Best 2026 4Runner, Except This One Thing

 Michael S. Palmer
story-9

Top 10 Lexus & Toyotas to Drive Before You Die!

 Joe Kucinski
Old Dec 11, 2006 | 09:31 AM
  #9  
Gojirra99's Avatar
Gojirra99
Thread Starter
CL Community Team
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Oct 2002
Posts: 30,283
Likes: 363
From: Canada
Default

Originally Posted by mmarshall
A V8 for ther RL, IMO, is unneeded....although I know that some others do not agree, and respect that.
They need MORE than a V8 RL, which is really a mid-sized sedan. They need a larger LS-sized V8 flagship for image I think. They have the ability to make a formidable car in this segment, whether it can sell well is another question . . .
Reply
Old Dec 11, 2006 | 09:34 AM
  #10  
Threxx's Avatar
Threxx
Lexus Champion
 
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 3,474
Likes: 2
From: Tennessee
Default

Yeah, the RL competes with the GS, M, 5, E, A6, and STS.

Notice one key factor with all those other cars? They all offer a V8, and they all have higher end cars in their respective lineups - they're not flagships for their brand.

That right there is reason enough to explain why Acura needs to step it up and not just by adding a V8 to the Acura RL, but by going upmarket with an even higher end lux sedan.
Reply
Old Dec 11, 2006 | 09:35 AM
  #11  
mmarshall's Avatar
mmarshall
Lexus Fanatic
Community Builder
Community Influencer
Liked
Loved
 
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 94,602
Likes: 271
From: Virginia/D.C. suburbs
Default

Originally Posted by LexArazzo
They need MORE than a V8 RL, which is really a mid-sized sedan. They need a larger LS-sized V8 flagship for image I think.
OK, your opinion noted.....if they want to do a larger V8-equipped car, fine....but I can't see trading the superb SH-AWD system for RWD. That would, IMO, be like trading an Olympic Gold medal for a Bronze one.
Reply
Old Dec 11, 2006 | 09:35 AM
  #12  
rominl's Avatar
rominl
exclusive matchup
20 Year Member
Liked
Community Favorite
Top Answer: 1
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 81,909
Likes: 504
From: Lovely OC
Default

awesome, i am glad they listen. maybe by then more people will give acura a more serious look and put them more head to head with lexus and infiniti
Reply
Old Dec 11, 2006 | 09:36 AM
  #13  
rominl's Avatar
rominl
exclusive matchup
20 Year Member
Liked
Community Favorite
Top Answer: 1
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 81,909
Likes: 504
From: Lovely OC
Default

Originally Posted by LexArazzo
They need MORE than a V8 RL, which is really a mid-sized sedan. They need a larger LS-sized V8 flagship for image I think. They have the ability to make a formidable car in this segment, whether it can sell well is another question . . .
yup, totally, that too. for all i care acura do NOT really have a "flagship" to go with other people. the RL is a nice car, v8 would be even better, but using that to go head to head with the LS, S, 7, etc... nah, not good
Reply
Old Dec 11, 2006 | 09:38 AM
  #14  
Threxx's Avatar
Threxx
Lexus Champion
 
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 3,474
Likes: 2
From: Tennessee
Default

Originally Posted by mmarshall
OK, your opinion noted.....if they want to do a larger V8-equipped car, fine....but I can't see trading the superb SH-AWD system for RWD. That would, IMO, be like trading an Olympic Gold medal for a Bronze one.
Well, RWD-based full time AWD would probably be more ideal due to its rear biased power distribution, but that's such a fine point that I don't beleive it's something Acura would be right to worry about or bother to 'fix'. The difference in FWD-based AWD and RWD-based AWD would only be apparent to relatively seasoned race drivers and I don't think anyone like that is going to be taking the RL to the local road course.
Reply
Old Dec 11, 2006 | 09:59 AM
  #15  
LexLaw's Avatar
LexLaw
Lexus Champion
 
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 1,809
Likes: 0
From: NYC Raised But ATL is where I stay.
Default

Welcome to the not so new millenium Acura. Finally!
Reply



All times are GMT -7. The time now is 09:09 PM.

story-0
2026 Lexus IS 350 F Sport Review: The Last of Its Kind Still Rocks

Slideshow: the 2026 IS 350 isn't all that new, and that's why we love it!

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-06-04 14:35:23


VIEW MORE
story-1
Top 10 Most Confusing Things Lexus Has Ever Done!

Slideshow: 10 most confusing things Lexus has ever done.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-06-04 09:40:55


VIEW MORE
story-2
2026 Lexus ES Review: Lexus Re-Embraces Founding Principles

Slideshow: Our First-Drive Review of the 2026 Lexus ES!

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-05-29 20:30:16


VIEW MORE
story-3
10 Lexus Bargains That are Cheaper Than a New Toyota RAV4

Slideshow: 10 Lexus bargain that are cheaper than a new Toyota.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-20 10:28:20


VIEW MORE
story-4
8 Weirdest Things Lexus Has Ever Built

Slideshow: From hoverboards to luxury yachts, these are the strangest projects Lexus has ever attached its badge to.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-16 11:34:36


VIEW MORE
story-5
10 Lexus Designs That Have Aged Like Fine Wine

Slideshow: Some luxury cars chase trends, but these Lexus models look better now than they did when they first rolled into showrooms.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-06 17:58:29


VIEW MORE
story-6
8 Tips for Improving Your Hybrid or Plug-in Hybrid's Efficiency!

Slideshow: How to Get the Best Fuel Economy with a Hybrid and Plug-In Hybrid!

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-05-05 20:54:44


VIEW MORE
story-7
10 Best Lexus Models No One Remembers

Slideshow: 10 best Lexus models no one remembers.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-05 17:33:28


VIEW MORE
story-8
TRD Off-Road Premium: Best 2026 4Runner, Except This One Thing

Slideshow: diving into 4Runner TRD Off-Road Premium's pricing, performance, fuel economy, features, and amenities!

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-04-23 13:09:18


VIEW MORE
story-9
Top 10 Lexus & Toyotas to Drive Before You Die!

Slideshow: the 10 Lexus and Toyota vehicles you need to drive before you die.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-23 10:34:24


VIEW MORE