Lexus Announces Pricing for All-New LS 600h L Luxury Hybrid Sedan


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TORRANCE, Calif., April 6 /PRNewswire/ -- Lexus today announced the
manufacturer's suggested retail price (MSRP) for the all-new 2008 LS 600h L
luxury hybrid sedan. The LS 600h L will be the ultimate Lexus statement,
providing the highest level of luxury, technology, performance, safety and
efficiency.
With an extensive list of standard luxury equipment and technological
features, including the world's first full hybrid V8 powertrain, the LS
600h L will carry a base MSRP of $104,000 when it reaches Lexus dealers in
June.
The full-time all-wheel-drive LS 600h L will be the world's first
vehicle powered by a full hybrid V8 powertrain and will be mated to a newly
developed dual-stage electronically controlled, continuously variable
transmission. It will deliver power and performance on par with modern
12-cylinder engines, producing more than 430 horsepower while still
delivering fuel efficiency equal to or better than the combined
fuel-economy ratings of V6 all-wheel-drive mid-sized luxury sedans. The LS
600h L will also carry a Super Ultra Low Emission Vehicle (SULEV) rating,
emitting nearly 70 percent fewer emissions than the "cleanest" of its
competitors.

Wow!

I checked the Lexus pressroom and it seems there are also new pics.

Anyone have the large versions?

http://pressroom.toyota.com/Images?p=1&criteria=%2BMY08+LS600h&st=kw

yummy :)

:woohoo:

There you have it, official MSRP of over 100K. Lexus is getting some of it's customers used to 100K+ pricing in preparation for a certain upcoming model ;).

Those rims look very nice in the new pics.

Wow...at that price point I hope it has most features standard. Anyone wants to make a guess at what features will remain optional? Executive seating package is the obvious one I suppose. But what else could be optional in this car starting at $104k?:eek2:

Here's the link to the source, BTW:
http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/stories.pl?ACCT=104&STORY=/www/story/04-06-2007/0004561026

Those rims look very nice in the new pics.
I think those 9-spokes of the new set of pics of the 600hL(the silver one) is the same as those on the 460L.

For LS600hL stock rims we've seen so far, I think the 7-spokes > launch edition's split 5-spokes > 9-spokes . . .

Wow...at that price point I hope it has most features standard. Anyone wants to make a guess at what features will remain optional? Executive seating package is the obvious one I suppose. But what else could be optional in this car starting at $104k?:eek2:
A dealer had posted in the LS460/600hL forum that they've unbundled the RSES from the Exec. Package, so the RSES & the 4-seat configuration with ottoman are now available seperately for the 600hL . . . & I tend to think the base LS600hL at $104K is pretty loaded already except for the RSES & the 4-seat configuration, & possibly a couple of minor things . . .

Can you guys confirm? Or am I blind? B/c I cannot see anything regarding an 8 speed transmission for the 600hL, one their website, brochures, or any other fyi sites....:cool:

^^^
The LS 600h L does not have an 8-speed auto, it has a CVT like the rest of the Lexus hybrids.

I think those 9-spokes of the new set of pics of the 600hL(the silver one) is the same as those on the 460L.

For LS600hL stock rims we've seen so far, I think the 7-spokes > launch edition's split 5-spokes > 9-spokes . . .

I was actually referring to the 7 spoke 19" wheels, which are supposed to be exclusive to the hybrid. I don't know why the press pics show the LS hybrid with stock LS 9 spoke wheels, and I sure hope the LS hybrid comes standard with the 7 spokes. It makes the car look so much better. It wouldn't make sense to offer the 9 spokes on the LS hybrid. Keep the 9 spokes for the regular LS, and equip the LS hybrid only with the 7 or 5 spoke wheels.

That pic enigma posted looks really good.

This is a very bad press picture:

http://tyt.tnpv.net/Image/2007/04/TYT2007040235909_PV.jpg

This is a very bad press picture:

http://tyt.tnpv.net/Image/2007/04/TYT2007040235909_PV.jpgGood eye. Have they lost their mind to use the picture of a test car that was either driven insanely hard or barely moved all day long?:egads:

$104k. That's expected. It's good they didn't cross the $110k mark.

Lexus should just have priced it $99k and increased the invoice price and options, narrowing the profit margin. I mean, this car is not about making profit with 1000 LS600hL cars a year, but rather creating an image for Lexus which sells 200k cars a year.

Oh well. Now I have to think of "upgrading"... :rolleyes:

I think Lexus want to price it over $100K base for this car, & most buyers of cars in this class won't buy a decontented one less than $100K anyway . . .

$100K is the ultra luxe segment barrier. This is the halo car for Lexus sedans, and paves the way for the $125K (?) LF-A/GT-F...

$100K is the ultra luxe segment barrier. This is the halo car for Lexus sedans, and paves the way for the $125K (?) LF-A/GT-F...

Which will pave the way for the RR/Maybach fighter.

All I can say. Only way is up for Lexus.

One thing I like about Lexus, you get 2x the quality for half the price of the competition :p

US$100k eh? Wonder what the price tag will be up here.

Don't forget it STARTS at $104K.

With options it'll probably be $110K or more, and with 7% tax you're looking at $118K. :eek2:

Still, it will most likely be the most advanced car on the planet.

It's 17% tax (PST + GST + lux) up here :cry: & even a loaded LS460L with Exec.Package is C$124K pre-tax.

I expect the LS600hL to start at at least C$135K & close to C$150K loaded with exec. package . . . but I've read they've already pre-sold at least 95 units out of the 120 allocated for the year . . .

It's 17% tax (PST + GST + lux) up here :cry: & even a loaded LS460L with Exec.Package is C$124K pre-tax.

I expect the LS600hL to start at at least C$135K & close to C$150K loaded with exec. package . . . but I've read they've already pre-sold at least 95 units out of the 120 allocated for the year . . .

Where in Canada do you live?

I am happy that almost 80% of the LS600hL have been sold.

I just hope some people here in Montreal will have them.

$104k. That's expected. It's good they didn't cross the $110k mark.

Lexus should just have priced it $99k and increased the invoice price and options, narrowing the profit margin. I mean, this car is not about making profit with 1000 LS600hL cars a year, but rather creating an image for Lexus which sells 200k cars a year.

Oh well. Now I have to think of "upgrading"... :rolleyes:
honestly IF the car comes pretty loaded already, then i think it's a pretty darn good deal

I think it will be more than $110K loaded judging by this post of the options available :
ok, just got another email with more info, here goes:

options available:

AP - advanced pre-collision

PI - advanced park guidance

MZ - lexus link

RC - rear comfort package, rear a/c (cooler+air purifier+roof), rear entertainment system

RY - rear seat upgrade package - special utility package, slide (power), mid control, wireturn rear seat adjuster

LP - luxury package 2, rear ottoman, rear door and rear sunshade, semi aniline leather, rear air, rear cooler box, 12 volt power supply
FROM : http://sr1.clublexus.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2484704&postcount=4

Just add these options to the $104K base price.

One thing the "Power Door Closer" similar to the one on the Phantom?

One thing I like about Lexus, you get 2x the quality for half the price of the competition :p


well these days the discount is disappearing...and becomming a premium

well these days the discount is disappearing...and becomming a premium

I guess so.

It still goes for the LS pretty much so many gadgets and what not, which probably could revival many ultra high end coach builders like Rolls Royce and Bentley.

Can't really say the same with the rest of the models.

Lexus is still cheaper than most luxury car manufactures though or thats the way I see it

The LS460 already has more technology and probably more overall gadgets than the Bentely's and Rolls Royce's at $300K+. Nevermind the 600hL.

Loaded prices of $115K+ is a screaming bargain in comparison.

Here's the price for LS600h & LS600hL in Japan:
LS600h: $9.7-12.2 million yen.($81274-102220USD)
LS600hL: $13.3-15.1 million yen.($111440-126519USD)
That's even more expensive than the Toyota Century!!!

Lexus is still cheaper than most luxury car manufactures though or thats the way I see it

True, but some cars like a Bentley, Rolls, or Maybach have more luxurious interiors. It isn't just about gadgets.

But Lexus definitely continues to make strides. I personally HOPE they go all out at some point and do something ABOVE the LS to be a competitor to those brands. I know they can do it and it will help them with all the models.

Bentley, Rolls, etc are much more expensive beause of their brand names:D

True, but some cars like a Bentley, Rolls, or Maybach have more luxurious interiors. It isn't just about gadgets.

But Lexus definitely continues to make strides. I personally HOPE they go all out at some point and do something ABOVE the LS to be a competitor to those brands. I know they can do it and it will help them with all the models.

Toyota/Lexus nation lol just imagine everyone in the world just driving a Scion or Toyota or Lexus :p

Just going to have a problem with Porsche-VW

Bentley, Rolls, etc are much more expensive beause of their brand names:D
and because of the luxury equipment. The Bentley Arnage has 13 coats of paint and 10 cow hides' worth of leather inside. It probably has a small forest's worth of wood too. (ok, the last one is exaggerated but the first two are true).

I think it will be more than $110K loaded judging by this post of the options available :

FROM : http://sr1.clublexus.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2484704&postcount=4

Just add these options to the $104K base price.Wow...with all the rear seat goodies and the expensive PCS and auto-park optional, it'll easily be over $120k loaded.:eek1:

Wow...with all the rear seat goodies and the expensive PCS and auto-park optional, it'll easily be over $120k loaded.:eek1:The top model of LS460L in Japan is about $127000USD.

I can sell you a condo and a 95 Civic for that price:)

Depends on where it's located ;) , in some areas, you can't even buy 1/2 of a parking space for that price lol

Depends on where it's located ;) , in some areas, you can't even buy 1/2 of a parking space for that price lolFor example, Hong Kong:D

For example, Hong Kong:D
and also : http://sr1.clublexus.com/forums/showthread.php?t=251162&highlight=parking+space for example . . .

An extra parking space in my condo is now worth $25k...

and because of the luxury equipment. The Bentley Arnage has 13 coats of paint and 10 cow hides' worth of leather inside. It probably has a small forest's worth of wood too. (ok, the last one is exaggerated but the first two are true).

but its luxury equipment is half of LS's... You buy Bentley for status really, not for technology.

LS600h at 104k is not bad... not cheap either, but it is AWD so it should be pretty good in all conditions, and I cant wait for test drives...

but its luxury equipment is half of LS's... You buy Bentley for status really, not for technology.

But luxury isn't only about technology. In fact one of the problems Lexus has it their technology and interiors are too sterile and cold looking. The LS interior certainly isn't 'bad' or anything at its price point, but nowhere near as warm and inviting as a Bentley and nowhere near the level of old world craftsmanship (wood and leather in particular).

An extra parking space in my condo is now worth $25k...

Thats pretty good. Pretty much costs he same thing here in Montreal. Some places go upto like $60k in the area I'll be moving to. Just for a bloody spot to park your car indoors lol

But luxury isn't only about technology. In fact one of the problems Lexus has it their technology and interiors are too sterile and cold looking. The LS interior certainly isn't 'bad' or anything at its price point, but nowhere near as warm and inviting as a Bentley and nowhere near the level of old world craftsmanship (wood and leather in particular).


for me it is both... I would never buy any of ultra luxury brands just because for me, personally, both targets have to be met... plus, none of the brands have build quality or general quality of MB, let alone Lexus... Another reason I would always rather buy Porsche than Ferrari...

and also : http://sr1.clublexus.com/forums/showthread.php?t=251162&highlight=parking+space for example . . .No, there are some even more expensive ones in Hong Kong. The most expensive houses in Hong Kong may worth more than $5k USD per sq ft. If that parking space is about 200 sq ft, then it is worth $1 million USD!!! Which is 4 times that of your example!!!

No, there are some even more expensive ones in Hong Kong. The most expensive houses in Hong Kong may worth more than $5k USD per sq ft. If that parking space is about 200 sq ft, then it is worth $1 million USD!!! Which is 4 times that of your example!!!
I know, I was originally from there when I was a kid ;). I still go back for brief visits every 2 to 3 years. I'm just saying there are places other than HK where you can't buy half a parking space for the price of a LS600hL :)

Crazy!! First 100K Lexus. Pretty cool. I know many are already sold and Lexus resale value is great, but I'm wondering how resale values will be 1-5 years from now considering this is the first 100K Lexus. Definitely different territory for the brand and hopefully people can justify paying 100K for a Lex.

I think the LS460's will hold their value better, much like V8's from other luxury brands hold their values better than the 12 cylinder versions . . .

I know, I was originally from there when I was a kid ;). I still go back for brief visits every 2 to 3 years. I'm just saying there are places other than HK where you can't buy half a parking space for the price of a LS600hL :)Ofcoz there are.
PS: I am from hk too;)

I think the LS460's will hold their value better, much like V8's from other luxury brands hold their values better than the 12 cylinder versions . . .

It will remain to be seen I guess. The difference is that this is a hybrid luxury sedan, a unique vehicle in the marketplace.

It will remain to be seen I guess. The difference is that this is a hybrid luxury sedan, a unique vehicle in the marketplace.

Yugo and Daewoo are very unique in the marketplace too...:uh:

I think the LS460's will hold their value better, much like V8's from other luxury brands hold their values better than the 12 cylinder versions . . .

I agree. The LS600Lh is a bleeding edge vehicle - there will be newer implementations that are better and I expect the car to take a serious hit in value in a few years. Doesn't mean it's a bad vehicle, it's incredible.

Yugo and Daewoo are very unique in the marketplace too...:uh:

Cheeky :rolleyes:.

Sarcasm aside, why do you doubt that the LS hybrid will have decent resale values? Why even compare to Yugo and Daewoo :egads:?

Cheeky :rolleyes:.

Sarcasm aside, why do you doubt that the LS hybrid will have decent resale values? Why even compare to Yugo and Daewoo :egads:?

1, "Uniqueness" doesn't necessarily make a car a collectable item. It's not a limited production model. It's not even a stand-alone model

2, People who shop for a used luxury vehicle ususally go for the model. And most don't necessarily aim for the higher end models.

3, Higher end models = more gadgets = higher chance of anything that may fail = less reliability. Potential customer ususally look for something that's more reliable.

That's why the lower model will usually hold it's value (percentage wise) better than the higher end model; hence I think the LS460 will hold the value better than the LS600.

1, "Uniqueness" doesn't necessarily make a car a collectable item. It's not a limited production model. It's not even a stand-alone model

2, People who shop for a used luxury vehicle ususally go for the model. And most don't necessarily aim for the higher end models.

3, Higher end models = more gadgets = higher chance of anything that may fail = less reliability. Potential customer ususally look for something that's more reliable.

That's why the lower model will usually hold it's value (percentage wise) better than the higher end model; hence I think the LS460 will hold the value better than the LS600.

An LS460 likely will hold value a bit better than an LS hybrid, but again, what does this have to do with Yugo or Daewoo?

FYI, the LS hybrid is a limited production model, just like the GS hybrid. The demand most certainly will exceed supply, even with this high price.

The Prius has held up exceedingly well in terms of resale values, so we will see how the LS hybrid does.

An LS460 likely will hold value a bit better than an LS hybrid, but again, what does this have to do with Yugo or Daewoo?

FYI, the LS hybrid is a limited production model, just like the GS hybrid. The demand most certainly will exceed supply, even with this high price.

The Prius has held up exceedingly well in terms of resale values, so we will see how the LS hybrid does.

Just because you brought up the point that the LS600 is a "unique" model, so I brought up daewoo and Yugo.

So is the LS and GS hybrid a real "limited production" model? Did they set a number of annual production and once the output is reached then that's done? I don't think so. I will be really surprised to see that the demand is really that much higher than supply for the GS, given its useless trunk.

Also, how do you come up with the conclusion that the Prius holds its resale value well? Compare to what?

Just because you brought up the point that the LS600 is a "unique" model, so I brought up daewoo and Yugo.

So is the LS and GS hybrid a real "limited production" model? Did they set a number of annual production and once the output is reached then that's done? I don't think so. I will be really surprised to see that the demand is really that much higher than supply for the GS, given its useless trunk.

Also, how do you come up with the conclusion that the Prius holds its resale value well? Compare to what?

Both the GS hybrid and LS hybrid are limited production by virtue of limited production capacity to build them. One reason for that is both the GS and LS hybrid use state of the art hybrid tech, more advanced than what is found on the RX and Highlander Hybrid. The LS hybrid has the most advanced hybrid tech out of any Toyota vehicle. And yes, for the GS hybrid, Lexus did have a set annual limit of units that were allocated for sale in North America, and demand exceeded that. Go and check out the GS forums, and be surprised. In fact, go to a Lexus dealer and ask how long the waiting list is for a GS hybrid. It's even worse up here in Canada, where it's very hard to get your hands on a GS hybrid, even though it's pretty expensive.

The LS hybrid also has a set annual limit of units allocated for North America, and there was a recent story that the entire annual allocation for North America was sold out.

Go and check the resale values yourself. See how much a used 2003 Prius still goes for. Prius resale values are very good in comparison to average resale values for midsize sedans.

Both the GS hybrid and LS hybrid are limited production by virtue of limited production capacity ......Prius resale values are very good in comparison to average resale values for midsize sedans.

It's so difficult to make some sense out of the discussion with you it's just funny.

Prius resale values are very good in comparison to average resale values for midsize sedans.

You're comparing the resale value of a prius to midsize sedans? Totally different class my friend. Mostly likely not a lot of people cross-shop between a prius and an accord.

Well there are 1,850 preorders, and 500 launch edition models for the LS 600h L spoken for. It will be fairly limited production, and being the LS hybrid has more demand than the GS hybrid.

Ward's Auto said that those numbers represent 'vitually sold out' so that is a capped number, consider the tens of thousands the LS sells.

You're comparing the resale value of a prius to midsize sedans? Totally different class my friend. Mostly likely not a lot of people cross-shop between a prius and an accord.


It is certainly fair to compare resale values between a Prius and other mid-sizers in the same price class to get a sense of the market.

It's so difficult to make some sense out of the discussion with you it's just funny.

I really can't imagine what's so difficult about this discussion? Both the GS and LS hybrid are limited production models, and are likely to have good resale because the Prius has good resale. I don't think I can make it any simpler :p ;).

You're comparing the resale value of a prius to midsize sedans? Totally different class my friend. Mostly likely not a lot of people cross-shop between a prius and an accord.


Uhh, no. Seeing as the Prius is unique in the marketplace, there are no other hybrid midsize sedans that have been out for years. Sure, recently some other hybrid sedan models have come out, but it's too early to know their resale values. At this point, it's perfectly reasonable to compare the Prius to other midsize sedans, or even to compacts in terms of resale value. Compared to a Corolla or Civic, Prius resale value is still pretty good.

Uhh, no. Seeing as the Prius is unique in the marketplace, there are no other hybrid midsize sedans that have been out for years. Sure, recently some other hybrid sedan models have come out, but it's too early to know their resale values. At this point, it's perfectly reasonable to compare the Prius to other midsize sedans, or even to compacts in terms of resale value. Compared to a Corolla or Civic, Prius resale value is still pretty good.

Since the resale of a Prius barely drops I think its safe to say in any circumstance it has good resale value

Since the resale of a Prius barely drops I think its safe to say in any circumstance it has good resale value

Correct, and that is due to a number of factors, such as high demand, very low incentives, and it being a unique vehicle in the marketplace.

Correct, and that is due to a number of factors, such as high demand, very low incentives, and it being a unique vehicle in the marketplace.
And if it has the Carpool Sticker here in Cali, it sells for about $4k more than a comprable one without it...

And if it has the Carpool Sticker here in Cali, it sells for about $4k more than a comprable one without it...
yup, couldn't believe it when i saw that news. should have bought a prius and sell it now :D

The Prius is classified as a midsize. Too bad the inflated resale value is only in the States lol.

I really can't imagine what's so difficult about this discussion? Both the GS and LS hybrid are limited production models, and are likely to have good resale because the Prius has good resale. I don't think I can make it any simpler :p ;).

They will have good resale value because of what it is - an hybrid luxury sedan.

Same goes for diesels in Europe - great resale value because of lower consumption, despite the fact that update cycle for an diesel engine is around 2 years.

It is same silly argument since when 2nd gen Prius came out, where people have thought it will have no resale... and look at it now :thumbup:

i need to push my parents to get one when they return the ls430 when the lease is up.

i love the 600H headlight.

It was really surprised that LS600hL will be even more expensive than Toyota Century.