Any links to 07 Camry dyno runs?
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Argument i'm having with a tool... I'm a fan of American AND Imports, he's a mustang fanboy. I'm trying to explain to him that the v6 in the new camry is superior to the V6 in the new mustang. I'd like to have a dyno chart to support my claim instead of just going off of the static hp/torque numbers.
I'm looking into buying an 07 camry or an 02 IS300... i'm just having a hard time justifying the IS300 to myself in terms of practicality. I'm replacing an 96 Integra that I love, but shes got 150k miles on her and she's starting to feel her age.
I'm looking into buying an 07 camry or an 02 IS300... i'm just having a hard time justifying the IS300 to myself in terms of practicality. I'm replacing an 96 Integra that I love, but shes got 150k miles on her and she's starting to feel her age.
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1) The V6 in the Mustang is garbage, why would anybody even argue about it? A V6 Stang is a girl's car, there is no reason to get any Mustang without a V8
2) DON'T buy a Camry. Trust me. I drove one for 6 years, it's the most boring car on earth
2) DON'T buy a Camry. Trust me. I drove one for 6 years, it's the most boring car on earth
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Thats where it's being argued...
As far as the camry being bland, i agree... but I've just heard such good things about the 07 that its hard to pass up... mostly b/c of the 33mpg out of a 268hp motor
How would a GS stack up compared to those 2... i know nothing about them. My budget is $20k after purchase costs.
Thats where it's being argued...
As far as the camry being bland, i agree... but I've just heard such good things about the 07 that its hard to pass up... mostly b/c of the 33mpg out of a 268hp motor
How would a GS stack up compared to those 2... i know nothing about them. My budget is $20k after purchase costs.
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Argument i'm having with a tool... I'm a fan of American AND Imports, he's a mustang fanboy. I'm trying to explain to him that the v6 in the new camry is superior to the V6 in the new mustang. I'd like to have a dyno chart to support my claim instead of just going off of the static hp/torque numbers.
I'm looking into buying an 07 camry or an 02 IS300... i'm just having a hard time justifying the IS300 to myself in terms of practicality. I'm replacing an 96 Integra that I love, but shes got 150k miles on her and she's starting to feel her age.
I'm looking into buying an 07 camry or an 02 IS300... i'm just having a hard time justifying the IS300 to myself in terms of practicality. I'm replacing an 96 Integra that I love, but shes got 150k miles on her and she's starting to feel her age.
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Thats where it's being argued...
As far as the camry being bland, i agree... but I've just heard such good things about the 07 that its hard to pass up... mostly b/c of the 33mpg out of a 268hp motor
How would a GS stack up compared to those 2... i know nothing about them. My budget is $20k after purchase costs.
Thats where it's being argued...
As far as the camry being bland, i agree... but I've just heard such good things about the 07 that its hard to pass up... mostly b/c of the 33mpg out of a 268hp motor
How would a GS stack up compared to those 2... i know nothing about them. My budget is $20k after purchase costs.
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There are some REALLY REALLY stupid people on that thread. I'd advise just to ignore it.
They have no concept of what torque really is; they seem to cling to the old myth of torque being what governs a cars acceleration. They don't understand powerbands and cling to stupid prejudices over origins.
I mean seriously, when people started commenting that the 210hp Mustang was "peppy" or "adequate" I started laughing.
They have no concept of what torque really is; they seem to cling to the old myth of torque being what governs a cars acceleration. They don't understand powerbands and cling to stupid prejudices over origins.
I mean seriously, when people started commenting that the 210hp Mustang was "peppy" or "adequate" I started laughing.
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I wouldn't be too quick to believe the MPG numbers. We bought our ES thinking "hey, 30 MPG! That's awesome!", only to wake up to the grim reality that the car has never turned better than 25.8 MPG in all-highway driving. I'm hoping that the new mileage ratings system starts showing what cars are actually capable of in real world driving.
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Who cares? The V6 mustang is slow - if you want a high performance Mustang, get the GT or Cobra. If you don't care about performance - get the V6.
Likewise I have no idea why somebody who cares about performance would buy a Camry in the first place.
My parent's 4-cylinder '05 Camry barely manages to hit 31 mpg on the highway and 24 in the city. My dad complained about this and they just said 'nothing is wrong... results may vary depending on your driving habits'. Well I've SEEN my dad's driving habits and he drives like a freakin' old man... light throttle, idle cruises up to red lights, early shifts... he, if anyone, should be able to extract the best mileage Toyota has ever seen a Camry get - not well under the EPA ratings, as he is doing now.
He knows something is wrong with that car and I do to but there's no way to prove it to Toyota - they won't believe him. Toyota also seems to think it's acceptable for our 4runner to require premium fuel in order to not have hesitant/choppy startups. It's getting old - people buy these cars for fuel economy and to not have to worry about stupid little problems, but that does no good if the dealer won't stand behind their product.
Likewise I have no idea why somebody who cares about performance would buy a Camry in the first place.
I wouldn't be too quick to believe the MPG numbers. We bought our ES thinking "hey, 30 MPG! That's awesome!", only to wake up to the grim reality that the car has never turned better than 25.8 MPG in all-highway driving. I'm hoping that the new mileage ratings system starts showing what cars are actually capable of in real world driving.
He knows something is wrong with that car and I do to but there's no way to prove it to Toyota - they won't believe him. Toyota also seems to think it's acceptable for our 4runner to require premium fuel in order to not have hesitant/choppy startups. It's getting old - people buy these cars for fuel economy and to not have to worry about stupid little problems, but that does no good if the dealer won't stand behind their product.
EPA numbers are as useless as V6 Mustangs.
Hardly anyone I know gets EPA mileages.
The EPA (pre-2008 revision), tests the highway mileage at an average of 48 mph. A lot of city speed limit in my area is about 45mph already.
I rather have EPA underrate their numbers than overrate.
Hardly anyone I know gets EPA mileages.
The EPA (pre-2008 revision), tests the highway mileage at an average of 48 mph. A lot of city speed limit in my area is about 45mph already.
I rather have EPA underrate their numbers than overrate.
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EPA numbers are as useless as V6 Mustangs.
Hardly anyone I know gets EPA mileages.
The EPA (pre-2008 revision), tests the highway mileage at an average of 48 mph. A lot of city speed limit in my area is about 45mph already.
I rather have EPA underrate their numbers than overrate.
Hardly anyone I know gets EPA mileages.
The EPA (pre-2008 revision), tests the highway mileage at an average of 48 mph. A lot of city speed limit in my area is about 45mph already.
I rather have EPA underrate their numbers than overrate.
For example, my A4 is rated at 23/34 ( http://www.threxx.com/car/a4/images/dsc00079.jpg )
I have not once gotten under 30 in the city (admittedly it's not like inner city stoplight to stoplight driving, but still...), and I average 38 on the highway with my record high of 41. That's not indicated, either - that's based on doing it the right way using fillups and the trip meter.
Ah yes. Probably that's why. I live in Socal where traffic makes a prius look like a ford expedition when it comes to gas mileage.
I say if the EPA can rate their numbers to what satisfy those in Socal, then I'm sure everyone else in the US would be satisfied
I say if the EPA can rate their numbers to what satisfy those in Socal, then I'm sure everyone else in the US would be satisfied