Are those different taillights, or is it just covered with overlays?
MR_F1
05-23-07, 09:15 AM
That would be an Aurion right?
thetopdog
05-23-07, 09:52 AM
One question:
WHY?!?!:egads:
ElitistK
05-23-07, 09:52 AM
very nice. wonder why we never get those versions in the usdm.
jpcdmd
05-23-07, 09:58 AM
that is baaaaaaaaaaaaad :thumbup: :thumbup:
ThoLe
05-23-07, 09:58 AM
That looks real nice.
rominl
05-23-07, 10:07 AM
One question:
WHY?!?!:egads:
what's wrong with the car? i think it's done pretty well
foofighter
05-23-07, 10:09 AM
why? why not?! that thing looks great :thumbup:
thetopdog
05-23-07, 10:20 AM
what's wrong with the car? i think it's done pretty well
It's not so much that the mods aren't done well, they're very tasteful, it's the fact that they're souping up a CAMRY. Why would anybody want to personalize the most anonymous car of all time? I never understood modding cars like that, it just doesn't make sense to me. You can throw $20000 in mods at that car and you'll still have a Camry at the end of the day.
Maybe I'm just bitter because I was forced to spend the first 5 years of my driving life behind the wheel of my mom's 4cyl 2001 Camry LE, but even back then if somebody offered me $10,000 in free exterior mods, I doubt I would have even taken them up on the offer. Modding a Camry is a futile endeavor in my opinion, it's like modding a minivan
rominl
05-23-07, 10:26 AM
well imho there are no difference between cars being modded. by your definition modding a civic is just as stupid (which i don't think so). don't worry, i drove camry as my first car for 6 years too :)
and maybe to high end car owners' eyes, they say people modding GS are stupid? :D
foofighter
05-23-07, 10:37 AM
It's not so much that the mods aren't done well, they're very tasteful, it's the fact that they're souping up a CAMRY. Why would anybody want to personalize the most anonymous car of all time? I never understood modding cars like that, it just doesn't make sense to me. You can throw $20000 in mods at that car and you'll still have a Camry at the end of the day.
Maybe I'm just bitter because I was forced to spend the first 5 years of my driving life behind the wheel of my mom's 4cyl 2001 Camry LE, but even back then if somebody offered me $10,000 in free exterior mods, I doubt I would have even taken them up on the offer. Modding a Camry is a futile endeavor in my opinion, it's like modding a minivan
not everyone can afford a high end car to sup up. modding cars is not reserved to high dollar cars, maybe that's the reason why owners mod their anonymous cars, because it is anonymous.
And what's wrong w/ modding a minivan?! I've seen some really nicely done minivans...one member on here posted pics recently of his Odyssey.
but you're entitled to your opinion.
PhilipMSPT
05-23-07, 10:37 AM
Why would anybody want to personalize the most anonymous car of all time? I never understood modding cars like that, it just doesn't make sense to me. You can throw $20000 in mods at that car and you'll still have a Camry at the end of the day.
I see it differently.
I don't understand why people would soup up a sports car, like a Ferrari or a Lambo. I mean, they're about 600 hp stock, but someone drops another $50k to make it 150 lbs lighter with 620 hp. WHY?!? Is it all that necessary?
It's necessary to make the Camry (or any other non-sporty car) more sporty and distinctive. I see absolutely no reason why someone would want to make a high-end sports car even more sporty and even more distinctive (like I couldn't tell it was a Ferarri or Aston Martin from a mile away). :rolleyes:
I can understand if you mod a high-end sports car for aesthetics, but there is no reason (unless if you take it to a track often) to make it even more sporty.
In all honesty, if I had a high-end sports car, I would just spend the $$ that I would have used for mods, and donated that money to charity. At least it would have been more useful for more people...
mkorsu
05-23-07, 10:53 AM
Maybe I'm just bitter because I was forced to spend the first 5 years of my driving life behind the wheel of my mom's 4cyl 2001 Camry LE,
It appears that you got your license somewhere around 2002? :uh:
So, you got to drive basically a brand new car right from the time you started driving yet you despise it why?? No COOL factor?
Sorrt, but this annoys me. A complete lack of appreciation. My first car was a clapped out 1974 Camaro..............that I got in 1987! And you know what? I drove that car every day like I was driving a Caddy. Why? because I was DRIVING.
thetopdog
05-23-07, 10:54 AM
well imho there are no difference between cars being modded. by your definition modding a civic is just as stupid (which i don't think so). don't worry, i drove camry as my first car for 6 years too :)
and maybe to high end car owners' eyes, they say people modding GS are stupid? :D
I detest Civics but that's an entirely different issue
Foofighter: It's not about the cost of the car, Camrys aren't even that cheap. There are about 1000 cars, both new and used I would rather buy and modify for the price of a Camry
PhillipMST: Have you ever heard the adage about trying to polish a turd? That's basically all I'm saying here, if you want a car that's more distinctive and/or sporty, why not buy an actual performance car with the money you would be using to mod a Camry? At least get an Altima or Mazda 6 or something
thetopdog
05-23-07, 11:00 AM
It appears that you got your license somewhere around 2002? :uh:
So, you got to drive basically a brand new car right from the time you started driving yet you despise it why?? No COOL factor?
Sorrt, but this annoys me. A complete lack of appreciation. My first car was a clapped out 1974 Camaro..............that I got in 1987! And you know what? I drove that car every day like I was driving a Caddy. Why? because I was DRIVING.
I started driving in the year 2000. The 2001 models went on sale in the fall of 2000. And it's not like I was given the car, I had to borrow it from my mom when she felt like lending it to me.
And trust me, I would have MUCH rather driven an 1974 Camaro (and I loved the 87s too) than a Camry. I would honestly have given anything to have a Camaro back in high school. I literally used to dream about driving Camaros. I don't care how nice a car is, 138hp with a 4 speed auto in a ~3400lb car is not something you want to be driving around when you're 17.
This is exactly my point, even though a Camry is a decent car and may cost a fair amount, there are TONS of cheaper cars that appeal more to me (and I would assume most guys) as a car enthusiast. A Camry is somewhere near the absolute bottom of the list as far as enthusiast appeal goes. Which is why I can't understand somebody putting money into modding one
GS300Rich
05-23-07, 11:01 AM
Who cares if its a camry, it looks good:thumbup:
ST430
05-23-07, 11:17 AM
Why hate, seriously?
In JDM / Asian markets, the Camry's are a whole different class then our bread and butter mainstream Toycos here. Because of its size, typical duty taxes on the Camry's make them ~2X there costs in other places, which then puts them up in the entry level luxury classes. And in other parts of the world, the Camry's are not as prevalent because of this. That's why they are much more "souped" up and accessorized from the dealer. On my trips to Asia, I've seen these Camry's and I wish they were imported to the US somehow; they look great, very luxurious, and have much more appeal then our version here in the US.
tmf2004
05-23-07, 11:19 AM
Looks good.. I'd drive one anyday.. :thumbup:
Seize
05-23-07, 11:22 AM
That's one very nicely modded Camry :thumbup:
timoc42
05-23-07, 11:24 AM
Nice!!! :thumbup:
I would go for that, even if it is a Camry... :D
Are those different taillights, or is it just covered with overlays?
those are the tailights in the asian version, not overlays.
T0ked
05-23-07, 11:28 AM
Its not the car, its the people that drive them. My first car was a '98 Mazda 626... second hand from my mom. I drove and cared for it like I do my SC300. I modded it, little things here and there. You do to your car what you want to do to it.
And the fact that it is a Camry, all the more reason why you should mod it... everyone has one, so make yours stand out a bit more. Now, I'm not accoutning for taste here... If someone wants to make a fool out of themselves, then they are free to do it.
My parents just bought a '07 Camry to replace the Mazda Millennia we had and I'm getting some ideas from that picture. That car is very tastefully modded, IMHO.
timoc42
05-23-07, 11:30 AM
that picture is taken in jakarta, indonesia...quite near where my parents live.
Lots of high-end cars get modified in that shop...just look at the background pics and see the slammed S-class.
The camry you see in the picture, a V6 model seen by the 2 exhausts pipes, costs about US $60,000. So, not as cheap as you might think.
They are not common, daily drivers as the ones in USA.
As ST430 said before, the camrys there, are very luxuriously equipped and are looked upon to be executive cars... In fact, only people with the post of General Managers and above would be driving these cars.
And I feel whats important when modifiying cars is the spirit of wanting something unique and different, in any car. Cheap and expensive cars are all good when you just want to show your unique taste.
bitkahuna
05-23-07, 11:52 AM
Looks really great! :thumbup:
Lexmex
05-23-07, 12:02 PM
That's bad ass;)
ARB
05-23-07, 12:11 PM
It's not so much that the mods aren't done well, they're very tasteful, it's the fact that they're souping up a CAMRY. Why would anybody want to personalize the most anonymous car of all time? I never understood modding cars like that, it just doesn't make sense to me. You can throw $20000 in mods at that car and you'll still have a Camry at the end of the day.
Maybe I'm just bitter because I was forced to spend the first 5 years of my driving life behind the wheel of my mom's 4cyl 2001 Camry LE, but even back then if somebody offered me $10,000 in free exterior mods, I doubt I would have even taken them up on the offer. Modding a Camry is a futile endeavor in my opinion, it's like modding a minivan
well imho there are no difference between cars being modded. by your definition modding a civic is just as stupid (which i don't think so). don't worry, i drove camry as my first car for 6 years too :)
and maybe to high end car owners' eyes, they say people modding GS are stupid? :D
I like it, it looks good.. and good point Rominl, to the Maybach, Rolls Royce, Bentley or any high end exotic car owner maybe modding a GS or any Lexus might seem stupid.
thetopdog
05-23-07, 12:35 PM
I like it, it looks good.. and good point Rominl, to the Maybach, Rolls Royce, Bentley or any high end exotic car owner maybe modding a GS or any Lexus might seem stupid.
No it wouldn't. 99.99% of people who mod their GS can't afford a Bentley or a Rolls, and the 0.01% that could probably don't want to pay that much for a car
That is entirely different from trying to mod a Camry, when there are literally thousands of alternatives that cost less and are more conducive to being modified for looks and/or performance.
I guess I'm the only one that sees the futility of attempting to personalize the number one selling car in the entire country, and trying to make a performance car out of something that was never designed for anything even remotely resembling performance
I detest Civics but that's an entirely different issue
Foofighter: It's not about the cost of the car, Camrys aren't even that cheap. There are about 1000 cars, both new and used I would rather buy and modify for the price of a Camry
PhillipMST: Have you ever heard the adage about trying to polish a turd? That's basically all I'm saying here, if you want a car that's more distinctive and/or sporty, why not buy an actual performance car with the money you would be using to mod a Camry? At least get an Altima or Mazda 6 or something
Same reason why you sold the GS for a Corvette right?
Altimas and 6's are still FWD econocars. I don't see why you would mod those over a Camry anyway. Although I don't see a problem with doing so.
thetopdog
05-23-07, 01:15 PM
Same reason why you sold the GS for a Corvette right?
Altimas and 6's are still FWD econocars. I don't see why you would mod those over a Camry anyway. Although I don't see a problem with doing so.
I sold the GS and bought the Vette becuase I love sports cars. I understand a car like a Corvette (or 911, Viper, Cayman, 350Z, Evo, etc.) is not reasonable/desirable/practical for everybody, obviously I'm not saying everyone should think like me
And I know Altimas and 6s are still basic family transportation, but at least they're a little bit sportier, and have a little more style and uniqueness than a Camry. I'm not telling anybody what to buy or what to do with their money, I'm just honestly wondering why anybody into looks or performance (those are the only 2 reasons to mod, right?) would use a Camry as a starting point
chrispy
05-23-07, 02:04 PM
I sold the GS and bought the Vette becuase I love sports cars. I understand a car like a Corvette (or 911, Viper, Cayman, 350Z, Evo, etc.) is not reasonable/desirable/practical for everybody, obviously I'm not saying everyone should think like me
And I know Altimas and 6s are still basic family transportation, but at least they're a little bit sportier, and have a little more style and uniqueness than a Camry. I'm not telling anybody what to buy or what to do with their money, I'm just honestly wondering why anybody into looks or performance (those are the only 2 reasons to mod, right?) would use a Camry as a starting point
Even with the V8, the GS is not much of a sport sedan in its stock form compared to, perhaps a 5-Series. Still, most people here continue to mod their cars. That specific Camry posted isn't the run of the mill every mom drives, but something a bit nicer. A Camry CE base model on the other hand would be a bad starting place. IMO, the new Camry SE V6 is pretty powerful and sporty looking and I prefer its looks over the Altima or 6 any day.
thetopdog
05-23-07, 02:09 PM
Even with the V8, the GS is not much of a sport sedan in its stock form compared to, perhaps a 5-Series. Still, most people here continue to mod their cars. That specific Camry posted isn't the run of the mill every mom drives, but something a bit nicer. A Camry CE base model on the other hand would be a bad starting place. IMO, the new Camry SE V6 is pretty powerful and sporty looking and I prefer its looks over the Altima or 6 any day.
Fair enough
xioix
05-23-07, 04:56 PM
I like the way the USDM Camry SE looks, but the ones overseas looks way better even without the kits
tuan92129
05-23-07, 05:54 PM
Looks nice:)
I still have distant relatives in Asia, and it would take most of their savings to buy a camry there.:sad:
GStateOM
05-23-07, 08:08 PM
The Camry has never been as sporty as it is today. It has never handled better in stock form, the brakes are better than ever and it has never been this fast before. Back in the days when my Camry (a 1995 model) was new, the V6 did 0-60 in lower to mid 8's. Not fast, but it wasn't the slowest sedan back then by any means. Those were the days when you couldn't tell a Camry SE from a Camry LE on the outside, minus the badge. The current Camry is a far cry from the Camry's of the past. As time goes on, you will see the Camry appeal more than ever to those who otherwise may not consider a Camry. I think the new Camry favors well compared to the competition. Performance figures are similar to the Altima, give or a take a little bit here and there. If we're going by styling, then I think all family sedans under $30k look plain except for (IMO) the Maxima and Mazda 6. The American family sedans have also come along way, especially the Fusion from other sedans that Ford has sold in the US market.
Gojirra99
05-23-07, 08:36 PM
Nice :thumbup: JDM Camry > USDM Camry in my book
BLK13X
05-23-07, 08:39 PM
It's an Aurion, not a Camry.
Looks pretty hot though... pity it's FWD.
ToyotaFan
05-24-07, 05:12 AM
It's an Aurion, not a Camry.
Looks pretty hot though... pity it's FWD.
The Aurion is also the ASEAN market Camry.
Toyota Style Australia designer, Nick Hogios (Ex-Ford Australia.) and other members of the Aussie design team collaborated to develop the styling of the ASEAN/ Taiwan/ China Camry/ Aussie Aurion together with the Japanese & Thailand/ Taiwanese design team.
The Aurion Sportivo range (Sportivo SX6 & Sportivo ZR6) was totally designed in house by Toyota Style Australia.
Now, I wished that Toyota badged the Aurion as a Vienta & redeveloped the current US-spec Avalon for Australia.
I detest Civics but that's an entirely different issue
Foofighter: It's not about the cost of the car, Camrys aren't even that cheap. There are about 1000 cars, both new and used I would rather buy and modify for the price of a Camry
PhillipMST: Have you ever heard the adage about trying to polish a turd? That's basically all I'm saying here, if you want a car that's more distinctive and/or sporty, why not buy an actual performance car with the money you would be using to mod a Camry? At least get an Altima or Mazda 6 or something
If one is modding a car for other peoples approval than I see your point. I like modding my cars for the experience more so than the end product. The result is just icing on the cake. Whether you are modding a Ferrari or a Camry, if you are having fun doing it that is all that matters. I keep telling this story to friend's of mine. I remember my dad telling me it is a waste of time and money to mod my car the way I used to right out of HS, all the time while he was telling me that he was helping me do the mods:p What I came away with from that experience after looking back is I don't remember so much what my dad used to complain about (The exact words) but I do remember spending time with my dad working on my car. Heck, I mod my moped, I mod my LS400, I even mod my NSX. It doesn't matter because I just enjoy the journey, especially now that my 3 year old son is getting old enough to actually want to help me and does help me. He doesn't do much really, but I remember him telling his grandpa that he helped his daddy install the TV monitors in the car. Now how cool is that:thumbup:
The problem is we live in a class system. The guy's modding Ferrari's think modding a Lexus is a waste of time and money. The guy's modding a Lexus think modding a Camry is a waste of time and money. The guy's modding a Camry think it is a waste of time modding a Kia.
By the way, I think that Camry is hot. Looks great. If I bought a Camry you can bet I'd be modding it. Maybe not performance wise, but modding it in some form.
thetopdog
05-24-07, 07:45 AM
The problem is we live in a class system. The guy's modding Ferrari's think modding a Lexus is a waste of time and money. The guy's modding a Lexus think modding a Camry is a waste of time and money. The guy's modding a Camry think it is a waste of time modding a Kia.
Again, this has nothing to do with class. Guys that mod Ferraris understand that the vast majority of people modding Lexuses can't afford Ferraris (and if somebody put Ferrari-level money into modding their Lex then they are most likely wasting their time). What I'm saying is that there are (at least to me and everybody I know) thousands of other cars for equal or lesser money that would make a much better starting point. That's just my opinion though
Hartawan
05-24-07, 07:58 AM
Wow thats like the first indo modded car that is now slammed "indo low". Very nice ride though.
By the way, that car probably cost as much as a Benz S-Class over here. So I guess you can say thats more than a Lexus.
GS3Tek
05-24-07, 11:02 AM
That is one good looking camry:eek2::thumbup:
Very simple and clean.
More reasons to mod the camry since you see like 50,000 of them in one parking lot. I sure want to know which one is mine :p
New and fairly loaded camrys are pretty expensive. I can see why I wouldn't mod this camry if it approaches the $30k mark. I'd rather get a nice used lexus instead:)
RA40
05-24-07, 11:06 AM
Looks good.
JAC JZS
05-24-07, 04:40 PM
New and fairly loaded camrys are pretty expensive. I can see why I wouldn't mod this camry if it approaches the $30k mark.
That Camry looks nice :thumbup: The 50th Anniversary Camry Hybrid costs $32,300 and Im sure there are mark-ups as well. Thats $2045 more than the IS250 manual($875 more than the IS250 auto) and only $1170 cheaper than the ES350! The XLE V6 is not much cheaper either.. the top end Camrys have definitely moved in to Lexus price levels.
sleeper408
05-24-07, 05:44 PM
That's best looking Camry I've ever seen.
DzaztrBUSE
05-25-07, 08:00 PM
I see it differently.
In all honesty, if I had a high-end sports car, I would just spend the $$ that I would have used for mods, and donated that money to charity. At least it would have been more useful for more people...
Is everyone paying attention out there?
And what's wrong w/ modding a minivan?!
Speaking of which, did anyone ever see that video of a chrysler minivan that had an engine swap DOGGING a deeply modded camaro in a 1/4? Hilarious
PhillipMST: Have you ever heard the adage about trying to polish a turd?
The Camry is no turd. Maybe not a perfect diamond either but far from a turd. Unless a turd to you is a car that doesnt have great design for your taste and/or lack-luster performance. If that would be the case then I would consider it your opinion on the word "turd" which should be in question here.
PhillipMST: That's basically all I'm saying here, if you want a car that's more distinctive and/or sporty, why not buy an actual performance car with the money you would be using to mod a Camry? At least get an Altima or Mazda 6 or something
For various reasons. Maybe they dont want an Altime or Mazda 6. Maybe they think those are turds. Now I woudn't buy the camry but I see nothing wrong with modding a car that you like. Heck, my first car that I purchased was an 88 cutlass supreme in 96. I wanted the baddest cutty out there. Now would you ask me why I modded it? My anonymous car suddenly looked a LOT better then other cuttys.
LEXUS_KID
05-26-07, 12:09 AM
:thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:
TLEX
05-26-07, 01:24 AM
That's best looking Camry I've ever seen.
I agree. :thumbup: :thumbup:
Bean
05-26-07, 12:29 PM
Again, this has nothing to do with class. Guys that mod Ferraris understand that the vast majority of people modding Lexuses can't afford Ferraris (and if somebody put Ferrari-level money into modding their Lex then they are most likely wasting their time). What I'm saying is that there are (at least to me and everybody I know) thousands of other cars for equal or lesser money that would make a much better starting point. That's just my opinion though
Yup it sure is your opinion. You sound like a Camry hater. You sound like one of those that has the old idea of a Camry still stuck in their heads and can't get it out.
They modded it to look nice... put some nice wheels on, dropped it some, and running a very clean-looking car. There's nothing wrong with that. If you can't see the reasons for doing that to a nice new car; then I don't think you quite understand the spirit of modifying cars. The Camry is no turd; and i'd bet is FAR nicer on the inside and out than the "thousands" of cars you claim are better. Its ok though, its your opinion... and you're a hater :)
thetopdog
05-27-07, 02:25 AM
Is everyone paying attention out there?
The Camry is no turd. Maybe not a perfect diamond either but far from a turd. Unless a turd to you is a car that doesnt have great design for your taste and/or lack-luster performance. If that would be the case then I would consider it your opinion on the word "turd" which should be in question here.
We're talking about modding cars, aren't we? So when I say it's a 'turd', I mean it's not a good platform for mods, not that's it's a bad car. I know the Camry is a good car. My mom's Camry has been reliable through hundreds of thousands of miles of abuse. It's relatively comfortable, and the interior's decent. That's not the point though
The point is the Camry is absolutely one of the LEAST sporty and LEAST unique cars in the world. For the price (a loaded Camry isn't cheap) it is the LEAST unique and among the LEAST sporty cars you can buy. If you want to use that as a platform to start modding, go ahead. I'll stick with buying cars that I don't see 50 times a day and were actually meant to look good and perform well from the outset. At least then I won't be playing catch up if I do decide to start modding
pisaykotik
05-27-07, 08:51 AM
I think the USDM SE V6 looks good but this one looks great.
ToyotaFan
05-27-07, 08:59 AM
Here's a previous gen. ASEAN Camry (Pre-facelift model) from Thailand, done up with a JP style kit.
Camry Club Gallery. Lots of interesting pictures here-> http://www.camryclub.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewforum&f=17
MR_F1
05-27-07, 09:01 AM
We're talking about modding cars, aren't we? So when I say it's a 'turd', I mean it's not a good platform for mods, not that's it's a bad car. I know the Camry is a good car. My mom's Camry has been reliable through hundreds of thousands of miles of abuse. It's relatively comfortable, and the interior's decent. That's not the point though
The point is the Camry is absolutely one of the LEAST sporty and LEAST unique cars in the world. For the price (a loaded Camry isn't cheap) it is the LEAST unique and among the LEAST sporty cars you can buy. If you want to use that as a platform to start modding, go ahead. I'll stick with buying cars that I don't see 50 times a day and were actually meant to look good and perform well from the outset. At least then I won't be playing catch up if I do decide to start modding
I really wanted to avoid jumping into this argument, but I really have to say, that your sir, are completely lost on the concept of modifying cars. Honestly.
Ice350
05-27-07, 09:48 AM
I started driving in the year 2000. The 2001 models went on sale in the fall of 2000. And it's not like I was given the car, I had to borrow it from my mom when she felt like lending it to me.
And trust me, I would have MUCH rather driven an 1974 Camaro (and I loved the 87s too) than a Camry. I would honestly have given anything to have a Camaro back in high school. I literally used to dream about driving Camaros. I don't care how nice a car is, 138hp with a 4 speed auto in a ~3400lb car is not something you want to be driving around when you're 17.
This is exactly my point, even though a Camry is a decent car and may cost a fair amount, there are TONS of cheaper cars that appeal more to me (and I would assume most guys) as a car enthusiast. A Camry is somewhere near the absolute bottom of the list as far as enthusiast appeal goes. Which is why I can't understand somebody putting money into modding one
So basically, you hate Camry's and you want us to hate them, too.
I would buy a Camry and then I would mod it. It's in the blood. Doesn't matter what car I have it will be modded. If it's an exotic it would only get wheels but that's still modding.
The modern Camry is the best looking ever made imo. The quality has improved as well. Some cost near 30K. I think it's worthy of respect. You can hate them all you want, don't expect us to share your disdain.
thetopdog
05-27-07, 11:51 AM
So basically, you hate Camry's and you want us to hate them, too.
I would buy a Camry and then I would mod it. It's in the blood. Doesn't matter what car I have it will be modded. If it's an exotic it would only get wheels but that's still modding.
The modern Camry is the best looking ever made imo. The quality has improved as well. Some cost near 30K. I think it's worthy of respect. You can hate them all you want, don't expect us to share your disdain.
How do I hate Camrys when in my post you quoted I said it's a good car? I agree, the new Camry is the nicest looking Camry ever. It actually looks pretty decent apart from the funky nose and a few other weird details. I'm sure it's very reliable as well. That doesn't change the fact that it is not and will never be anything resembling a performance vehicle, and barring any radical changes it will still be an extremely bland car that you see on the streets far too often
Mr F1: If not understanding why somebody would want to put $10000 in mods on a $30000 car and end up with a car that performs and looks worse than a car that costs $40000 (or even another car that costs $30000) means I'm 'lost' on the concept of modding cars, then I'm glad I'm lost. At least I'll save my time and money this way. By the way, I have a bunch of mods planned for my car when I have the money, I'm not anti-modification whatsoever, I just don't know why somebody would throw money at a Camry
JAC JZS
05-27-07, 12:10 PM
I don't know why somebody would throw money at a Camry
thetopdog, do you think modding an ES350 is waste of time/ $?
Ice350
05-27-07, 01:21 PM
How do I hate Camrys when in my post you quoted I said it's a good car? I agree, the new Camry is the nicest looking Camry ever. It actually looks pretty decent apart from the funky nose and a few other weird details. I'm sure it's very reliable as well. That doesn't change the fact that it is not and will never be anything resembling a performance vehicle, and barring any radical changes it will still be an extremely bland car that you see on the streets far too often
Mr F1: If not understanding why somebody would want to put $10000 in mods on a $30000 car and end up with a car that performs and looks worse than a car that costs $40000 (or even another car that costs $30000) means I'm 'lost' on the concept of modding cars, then I'm glad I'm lost. At least I'll save my time and money this way. By the way, I have a bunch of mods planned for my car when I have the money, I'm not anti-modification whatsoever, I just don't know why somebody would throw money at a Camry
Maybe you don't understand the concept of modding. It's probably different for different people.
I mod for individuality. I want my car to be different than all the others the company produced.
I mod for looks. I like looking good even if I'm the only one looking at it.
Performance is in third place for me because let's face it, we aren't racing and from the standpoint of pure transportation, it's a waste of money. That's why emption is so important in this thing...how you feel about cars is the only reason for modding. I'd mod anything except an Aztek. Nothing will make it look better. I wouldn't buy one either...but I don't hate them and don't care if someone else mods one.
MR_F1
05-27-07, 01:25 PM
How do I hate Camrys when in my post you quoted I said it's a good car? I agree, the new Camry is the nicest looking Camry ever. It actually looks pretty decent apart from the funky nose and a few other weird details. I'm sure it's very reliable as well. That doesn't change the fact that it is not and will never be anything resembling a performance vehicle, and barring any radical changes it will still be an extremely bland car that you see on the streets far too often
Mr F1: If not understanding why somebody would want to put $10000 in mods on a $30000 car and end up with a car that performs and looks worse than a car that costs $40000 (or even another car that costs $30000) means I'm 'lost' on the concept of modding cars, then I'm glad I'm lost. At least I'll save my time and money this way. By the way, I have a bunch of mods planned for my car when I have the money, I'm not anti-modification whatsoever, I just don't know why somebody would throw money at a Camry
Firstly, Its MR_F1,
Secondly, you don't know how much was spent. Thirdly, Its your opinion (and looking at the rest of the thread, you stand alone) that it doesn't look better than most 40k cars and a really stupid assumption that it is worse performing.
Furthermore, it was already pointed out that these cars are way more expensive overseas than they are in the US. On top of that, why not mod a camry? The essence of modding is being unique, and if you own a car that has 400,000 other copies, why not do something to make it different? It's his/her money, why NOT spend $10k on a 30k car? I admit it would be silly in CERTAIN cases to spend say, 15k on a 1k car, but honestly... you don't have much of a point really. I'm with reggie 100%. Modding is a thing some people love to do. Any car I have, will be modded as long as I have the means to do so.
O. L. T.
05-27-07, 02:16 PM
Looks amazing, I'd rock it.
CCC-TT
05-27-07, 03:20 PM
well i hope that no one who is bashing this car drives an ES of any kind because thats also just a "tricked out camry"
pvmike1
05-28-07, 03:48 PM
Let's all agree that the practice of modifying a car is, in itself, impractical and unnecessary. But it is a hobby that many of us share and enjoy, and that's why we spend the money. Therefore, arguing about whether or not one should mod a Camry is pointless; there is no logical reason to do it, except for the owner's own enjoyment. That's what it's all about, isn't it?
IMO, I don't think 22's on a Camry have ever looked so good. :thumbup:
MR_F1
05-28-07, 10:57 PM
Let's all agree that the practice of modifying a car is, in itself, impractical and unnecessary. But it is a hobby that many of us share and enjoy, and that's why we spend the money. Therefore, arguing about whether or not one should mod a Camry is pointless; there is no logical reason to do it, except for the owner's own enjoyment. That's what it's all about, isn't it?
IMO, I don't think 22's on a Camry have ever looked so good. :thumbup:
very eloquently put :thumbup:
1SICKLEX
05-29-07, 03:32 PM
1. That Camry is fantastic.
2. As for modding Ferraris, REALTALk, if you mod a Ferrari, the established Ferrari crowd "frowns" on that. They feel Ferraris are meant to stay stock from the factory as ENZO meant it to be.
CK6Speed
05-29-07, 04:24 PM
1. That Camry is fantastic.
2. As for modding Ferraris, REALTALk, if you mod a Ferrari, the established Ferrari crowd "frowns" on that. They feel Ferraris are meant to stay stock from the factory as ENZO meant it to be.
THis is generally true. However, I do know some big time Ferrari Chat owners that mod their cars. I think it has to do with the age thing. The old time Ferrari guys probably wont touch their car, but the younger .com millionaires do whatever pleases them. I for one (If I were ever so fortunate to own a Ferrari) would mod mine. Gotta at least get some nice rims and a Tubi Exhaust:p Plus since I'm a car audio enthusiasts I'll have some sort of after market audio as well.
1SICKLEX
05-29-07, 04:30 PM
THis is generally true. However, I do know some big time Ferrari Chat owners that mod their cars. I think it has to do with the age thing. The old time Ferrari guys probably wont touch their car, but the younger .com millionaires do whatever pleases them. I for one (If I were ever so fortunate to own a Ferrari) would mod mine. Gotta at least get some nice rims and a Tubi Exhaust:p Plus since I'm a car audio enthusiasts I'll have some sort of after market audio as well.
Yeah, tons of people mod Ferraris, I was just making a statement. The Lambo crowd is more apt to approve mods than the Ferrari crowd.
http://www.2dayblog.com/images/6-novitec-ferrari-f430.jpg
CK6Speed
05-29-07, 04:48 PM
Yeah, tons of people mod Ferraris, I was just making a statement. The Lambo crowd is more apt to approve mods than the Ferrari crowd.
http://www.2dayblog.com/images/6-novitec-ferrari-f430.jpg
This is true. I think it has to do with the Ferrari history. Lambos used to come with Alpine audio stock:p Persoanlly, no matter how poor or rich I am, I have to mod something on the car. I can't keep any of my cars 100% stock for long. I am one that believes no car is perfect and ALL cars are a compromise. Even the ENZO. After all, it has to pass CA emissions. :D
1SICKLEX
05-29-07, 04:49 PM
This is true. I think it has to do with the Ferrari history. Lambos used to come with Alpine audio stock:p Persoanlly, no matter how poor or rich I am, I have to mod something on the car. I can't keep any of my cars 100% stock for long. I am one that believes no car is perfect and ALL cars are a compromise. Even the ENZO. After all, it has to pass CA emissions. :D
lol.... yeah but yall get to have car meets every single day:thumbup: with such a huge enthusiast community, no matter what brand
DzaztrBUSE
05-29-07, 05:04 PM
We're talking about modding cars, aren't we? So when I say it's a 'turd', I mean it's not a good platform for mods, not that's it's a bad car. I know the Camry is a good car. My mom's Camry has been reliable through hundreds of thousands of miles of abuse. It's relatively comfortable, and the interior's decent. That's not the point though
The point is the Camry is absolutely one of the LEAST sporty and LEAST unique cars in the world. For the price (a loaded Camry isn't cheap) it is the LEAST unique and among the LEAST sporty cars you can buy. If you want to use that as a platform to start modding, go ahead. I'll stick with buying cars that I don't see 50 times a day and were actually meant to look good and perform well from the outset. At least then I won't be playing catch up if I do decide to start modding
So then my guess was right, you're simply using the term "turd" in your own way. I'm not one to say if something is right or wrong but you, my friend, are WRONG. Now take it easy. Nothing personal. I personally think that if someone has a car that is ALL over the place then modding it to a point that is stands out above the rest is a great reason. I know you are saying that you are not hating on the car but if you were just upfront with it all you wouldnt be getting flamed like you are now. Should have just posted "I hate Camrys and think modding them are stupid". If that was the case then theres not too much to write against it. You would have disclosed you do not like camry's for modding and thats it. this thread would have only been 2 pages at the most. Man up next time and it will clear up a ton of questions/comments.
Ice350
05-29-07, 06:14 PM
1. That Camry is fantastic.
2. As for modding Ferraris, REALTALk, if you mod a Ferrari, the established Ferrari crowd "frowns" on that. They feel Ferraris are meant to stay stock from the factory as ENZO meant it to be.
Yeah, that Ferrari crowd are some stuffy people. Actually, I wouldn't mod a Ferrari much either. Custome wheels is about all I would do. It already has the power and the looks. Just a set of wheels to personalize it,that's it.
Well, maybe a killer stereo, too.
garbage85
05-29-07, 07:13 PM
One question:
WHY?!?!:egads:
why? look at the pics
cspec
05-29-07, 07:23 PM
That is so amazing. Didn't know a Camry could be so sexy.