View Full Version : The Truth About the Tundra Ads


MPLexus301
06-15-07, 07:48 AM
I know this is sort of an old topic, but I wanted to post the full response to the ad so that everyone can be sure that Toyota wasn't BSing. I know it has been discussed on many other forums and elsewhere, and many people still say the ads are false.

Toyota's response:

By now you have seen it: Tundra’s "See-Saw” TV ad, in which a Tundra tows 10,000 pounds of cinder blocks and trailer from a standing start, up one side and down the other of a gigantic teeter-totter, slamming on the brakes at the end.

And by now you might also have seen a zealous competitor email some of their dealers claiming that the 10,000 pounds refers to the truck plus trailer and that the trailer is only 5000 pounds. Some news agencies reported the assertion and others, who shall remain nameless, reported on the reports, without checking the facts. Time to debunk the debunking. . .

The trailer weighed 10,000 pounds just like the voice over says. Including the truck itself, it’s a total of 15,575 pounds. There are affidavits, notarized independent witness reports and plenty of other documentation. You can bet that the marketing department, ad agency, production company, our legal department and everyone else wants to have this stuff covered, and they did.

And what about the whispers that the trailer was equipped with trailer brakes? True. It’s the law. All 50 states require trailer brakes for loads this heavy. While it varies state by state, many require trailer brakes for gross weights down to 3000 pounds.

Given the legal climate today, carmakers watch very closely what we say and show. Without trailer brakes, the rig would surely have jackknifed off the edge of the 27.5% (that’s 16 degrees) grade. More entertaining perhaps, but hard on equipment and stunt drivers!

- Contributed by Mike Michels, TMS Corporate Communications

ff_
06-15-07, 08:09 AM
He didn't mention anything about how the trailer or truck may have been modified for the commercial. They may have put [much] shorter gears in the truck, and implemented other performance modifications to enable it to climb the steep grade with that much weight in tow. The trailer may have also been modified with high-performance brakes and ABS system. Probably gumball-sticky tires all the way around too.

PhilipMSPT
06-15-07, 09:04 AM
I think this is a repost...

AzNMpower
06-15-07, 09:54 AM
I dunno, but the latest Toyota "trick-show-off" ads don't really do it for me. I don't really care for these kind of stunts......there are so many variables when trying out these things. Same goes for the Lexus IS ad......I think it was something to do with pinball, but it really didn't capture my attention at all.:sad:

jdoggg1
06-15-07, 12:07 PM
Umm... its not really a big deal to sprint 100 yards up an incline... how does it hold up towing a load up a 20 mile mountain? Thats the real question.

Yang1815
06-16-07, 04:47 PM
Umm... its not really a big deal to sprint 100 yards up an incline... how does it hold up towing a load up a 20 mile mountain? Thats the real question.
That commercial might be a little too long though.

mmarshall
06-16-07, 05:37 PM
Let's be honest, guys......who really BELIEVES car and truck ads to start with? If the nonsense that is shown in TV ads actually told it like it is, we wouldn't have much need for CAR CHAT, would we? ;)

I'm not saying there is NO truth to them.....and some of the old air-cooled, rear-engine VW ads of the 60's and 70's and the Honda ads of the 80's were quite clever and actually believable to some extent, but for the most past, there is a lot of nonsense in the auto ad industry.

Yang1815
06-16-07, 09:15 PM
Let's be honest, guys......who really BELIEVES car and truck ads to start with? If the nonsense that is shown in TV ads actually told it like it is, we wouldn't have much need for CAR CHAT, would we? ;)


The only one I believe is the Ford heavy duty truck one where they're towing a boat, and the Chevy gets towed by the boat in the water and the voice-over says "sunk, like a rock." :agreed: :D

ST430
06-17-07, 12:49 PM
He didn't mention anything about how the trailer or truck may have been modified for the commercial. They may have put [much] shorter gears in the truck, and implemented other performance modifications to enable it to climb the steep grade with that much weight in tow. The trailer may have also been modified with high-performance brakes and ABS system. Probably gumball-sticky tires all the way around too.

I love these *may have* statements that have no factual basis whatsoever and said just for arguement sake....carry on. ;)

mmarshall
06-17-07, 05:32 PM
the Chevy gets towed by the boat in the water and the voice-over says "sunk, like a rock." :agreed: :D

......rather, like a Crock. :D

mmarshall
06-17-07, 05:34 PM
He didn't mention anything about how the trailer or truck may have been modified for the commercial. They may have put [much] shorter gears in the truck, and implemented other performance modifications to enable it to climb the steep grade with that much weight in tow. The trailer may have also been modified with high-performance brakes and ABS system. Probably gumball-sticky tires all the way around too.

They don't even have to do THAT any more, ff. Computers, nowadays, can do almost anything with both still photos and videos.
Take, for instance, those Nissan ads with the driver and passenger dogs a few years ago......remember them? That was all done with computer-enhancement.