Notices
Car Chat General discussion about Lexus, other auto manufacturers and automotive news.
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by: Innova

Thinkin' about buying a Shelby GT500?!?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Aug 19, 2007 | 10:20 PM
  #1  
1QWKGS4's Avatar
1QWKGS4
Thread Starter
Pole Position
20 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Liked
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 2,386
Likes: 39
From: AL/FL
Default Thinkin' about buying a Shelby GT500?!?

Was wondering what you guys think of the Mustang Shelby GT500 before I start seriously looking at getting one.. They say it has 500 HP for around $42K.. Any thoughts, opinons, or flames..


http://www.roadandtrack.com/article....rticle_id=5431
Reply
Old Aug 20, 2007 | 05:48 AM
  #2  
Koma's Avatar
Koma
Lead Lap
CL Folding 25,000
20 Year Member
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 4,809
Likes: 1
From: Massachusetts
Default

If you like straight line performance. I heard the Roush Racing is much better at handling than the Shelby.
Reply
Old Aug 20, 2007 | 06:06 AM
  #3  
mmarshall's Avatar
mmarshall
Lexus Fanatic
Community Builder
Community Influencer
Liked
Loved
 
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 94,575
Likes: 265
From: Virginia/D.C. suburbs
Default

Haven't specifically driven a new Shelby yet, but I've looked at them and did a full review on a new Mustang GT.

The Mustang, in general, is a dynamite-looking car, especially in Shelby form with the stripes, but unfortunately, IMO, is made of junk materials inside and out. Exceptions are the durable clutch and the tough-as nails live rear axle (Ford knew when they designed this car that a lot of its owners would do burnouts) and the OK durability of the 4.6L V8. The Shelby, of course, has a different engine and an independent rear end, so some of those comments may not apply here.

If you really want to rule the drag strip, in addition to the standard 500 HP version, there are factory-built 600 and 725 HP versions coming. These versions, of course, are designed to compete with the top versions of the new Corvette Z06 and Dodge Viper. The 725 HP version (known as the Super Snake) does not have a factory warranty.....you buy it at your own risk.

You asked about the price. Depending on the policies of the dealership involved, expect to see regular markups over list on Shebly Mustangs...the more the power, the higher the price. Demand is probably going to exceed supply on these cars, so you will not be able to negotiate the usual way....from the invoice or dealer cost up. You will have to negotiate from the asking price down. My advice is, if you see one that the dealer will let go for list price with no markup, and that is the car you really want or can live with, buy it...it will be a good deal if you can afford it (and only you can determine that). Good luck.

Last edited by mmarshall; Aug 20, 2007 at 06:13 AM.
Reply
Old Aug 20, 2007 | 06:06 AM
  #4  
bitkahuna's Avatar
bitkahuna
CL Community Team
iTrader: (20)
 
Joined: Feb 2001
Posts: 80,930
Likes: 4,062
Default

The car will be huge fun but for more all around performance you'd be better off with a used Z06.
Reply
Old Aug 20, 2007 | 06:18 AM
  #5  
mmarshall's Avatar
mmarshall
Lexus Fanatic
Community Builder
Community Influencer
Liked
Loved
 
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 94,575
Likes: 265
From: Virginia/D.C. suburbs
Default

Originally Posted by bitkahuna
The car will be huge fun but for more all around performance you'd be better off with a used Z06.
Yes, financially, bit is probably correct, but used Corvettes are either pampered or driven very hard.....hope you get a pampered one.....and the Z06's suspension will beat you to death on anything but glass-smooth roads (I don't think the sophisticated Magna-Ride struts were an option on the Z06 like on regular 'Vettes)

I personally don't think that the Corvette has quite the dynamite looks of the Shelby Mustang either, but that's just personal taste you may or may not agree with, and that may be balanced out by the Mustang's less-than-ideal build quality.

Last edited by mmarshall; Aug 20, 2007 at 06:23 AM.
Reply
Old Aug 20, 2007 | 06:22 AM
  #6  
4TehNguyen's Avatar
4TehNguyen
Lexus Fanatic
20 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Shutterbug
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 26,242
Likes: 89
From: Houston, Texas
Default

Rousch Mustang >>>>>>>> GT500, at least they bothered to upgrade the suspension/brakes
Reply
Old Aug 20, 2007 | 06:25 AM
  #7  
tmf2004's Avatar
tmf2004
5% Club. Killing it!!!
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
iTrader: (15)
 
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 21,942
Likes: 65
From: FL
Default

How about a 03/04 cobra... Are those built better than hte Shelby?
Reply
Old Aug 20, 2007 | 06:35 AM
  #8  
mmarshall's Avatar
mmarshall
Lexus Fanatic
Community Builder
Community Influencer
Liked
Loved
 
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 94,575
Likes: 265
From: Virginia/D.C. suburbs
Default

Originally Posted by tmf2004
How about a 03/04 cobra... Are those built better than hte Shelby?
Yes and no. I drove one on request about 5 or 6 years ago, and it did not seem like the engine was putting out its full rated HP/torque, even with the manual transmission. An investigation at Ford turned out that this was indeed the case.....a lot of Cobras (they had a hand-built engine in those days, and the technician's name was signed off on the valve cover) were built with less power than advertised.

As far as the general build quality goes, not a whole lot different than current Mustangs (I've never been impressed with Mustang build quality outside of the durable live axle), and they lack, IMO, the current Mustang's good looks.
Reply
ClubLexus Stories

Celebrating Lexus & Toyota from Around the Globe

story-0

2026 Lexus IS 350 F Sport Review: The Last of Its Kind Still Rocks

 Michael S. Palmer
story-1

Top 10 Most Confusing Things Lexus Has Ever Done!

 Joe Kucinski
story-2

2026 Lexus ES Review: Lexus Re-Embraces Founding Principles

 Michael S. Palmer
story-3

10 Lexus Bargains That are Cheaper Than a New Toyota RAV4

 Joe Kucinski
story-4

8 Weirdest Things Lexus Has Ever Built

 Verdad Gallardo
story-5

10 Lexus Designs That Have Aged Like Fine Wine

 Verdad Gallardo
story-6

8 Tips for Improving Your Hybrid or Plug-in Hybrid's Efficiency!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-7

10 Best Lexus Models No One Remembers

 Joe Kucinski
story-8

TRD Off-Road Premium: Best 2026 4Runner, Except This One Thing

 Michael S. Palmer
story-9

Top 10 Lexus & Toyotas to Drive Before You Die!

 Joe Kucinski
Old Aug 20, 2007 | 08:09 AM
  #9  
DASHOCKER's Avatar
DASHOCKER
Lexus Fanatic
20 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Shutterbug
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 12,191
Likes: 10
From: NYC
Default

Stock 400hp C6 Vette walks all over the GT500 Stang. I love the look & V8 rumble of the Stang though. Modern day Eleanor.
Reply
Old Aug 20, 2007 | 08:17 AM
  #10  
mkorsu's Avatar
mkorsu
Zombie Slayer
20 Year Member
Photogenic
 
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 6,053
Likes: 3
From: East Bumble F, NJ
Default

Too much money for not enough car. That and the fact that the dealer mark-up will be ridiculous. I've heard stories of +6,000-10,000 in my general area.
Reply
Old Aug 20, 2007 | 08:36 AM
  #11  
marshmallo's Avatar
marshmallo
Lexus Champion
 
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 2,184
Likes: 1
From: MA
Default

The Mustang looks bad to me. It's way overdone and not in a good
way.
Reply
Old Aug 20, 2007 | 08:40 AM
  #12  
Dx3's Avatar
Dx3
Lexus Fanatic
iTrader: (13)
 
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 10,681
Likes: 10
From: Tulsa, Oklahoma
Default

For that price range don't rule out an NSX

Jonny
Reply
Old Aug 20, 2007 | 09:00 AM
  #13  
LexusFiend's Avatar
LexusFiend
Lead Lap
 
Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 543
Likes: 0
From: Alabama
Default

Originally Posted by tmf2004
How about a 03/04 cobra... Are those built better than hte Shelby?
IMO, this car right now is the used car deal of the century ... if you do pully, exhaust and intake this will make 500 hp for 20-25 grand depending on miles.
Reply
Old Aug 20, 2007 | 09:14 AM
  #14  
harut44's Avatar
harut44
Driver
 
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 143
Likes: 0
From: ca
Default

If you have $45k to spend and want a car that'll perform nicely get a C6 vet...As others have said the styling may not be as nice neither the sound but that car is amazing. I haven't driven a Shelby but I have driven a C6 and man that thing scared me...It's so raw it makes sushi look like a well done steak. I've also driven a E63 which has 507HP i believe compared to 400Hp of the vette but i mean the vettes sounds feeling and engine/exhaust noise is fantatstic. Don't get me wrong e63 blew me away too but for $45k i don't think you can get anything better.
Reply
Old Aug 20, 2007 | 10:34 AM
  #15  
LexFather
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default

Dealer markup on these cars are nuts. Your lucky to find one under 60k
Reply



All times are GMT -7. The time now is 09:59 AM.

story-0
2026 Lexus IS 350 F Sport Review: The Last of Its Kind Still Rocks

Slideshow: the 2026 IS 350 isn't all that new, and that's why we love it!

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-06-04 14:35:23


VIEW MORE
story-1
Top 10 Most Confusing Things Lexus Has Ever Done!

Slideshow: 10 most confusing things Lexus has ever done.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-06-04 09:40:55


VIEW MORE
story-2
2026 Lexus ES Review: Lexus Re-Embraces Founding Principles

Slideshow: Our First-Drive Review of the 2026 Lexus ES!

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-05-29 20:30:16


VIEW MORE
story-3
10 Lexus Bargains That are Cheaper Than a New Toyota RAV4

Slideshow: 10 Lexus bargain that are cheaper than a new Toyota.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-20 10:28:20


VIEW MORE
story-4
8 Weirdest Things Lexus Has Ever Built

Slideshow: From hoverboards to luxury yachts, these are the strangest projects Lexus has ever attached its badge to.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-16 11:34:36


VIEW MORE
story-5
10 Lexus Designs That Have Aged Like Fine Wine

Slideshow: Some luxury cars chase trends, but these Lexus models look better now than they did when they first rolled into showrooms.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-06 17:58:29


VIEW MORE
story-6
8 Tips for Improving Your Hybrid or Plug-in Hybrid's Efficiency!

Slideshow: How to Get the Best Fuel Economy with a Hybrid and Plug-In Hybrid!

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-05-05 20:54:44


VIEW MORE
story-7
10 Best Lexus Models No One Remembers

Slideshow: 10 best Lexus models no one remembers.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-05 17:33:28


VIEW MORE
story-8
TRD Off-Road Premium: Best 2026 4Runner, Except This One Thing

Slideshow: diving into 4Runner TRD Off-Road Premium's pricing, performance, fuel economy, features, and amenities!

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-04-23 13:09:18


VIEW MORE
story-9
Top 10 Lexus & Toyotas to Drive Before You Die!

Slideshow: the 10 Lexus and Toyota vehicles you need to drive before you die.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-23 10:34:24


VIEW MORE