View Full Version : BMW 335I...crazy aftermarket mod (better bang for the buck than our PI TC!)


Rock-a-Lex
09-05-07, 09:18 AM
I just got my latest edition of Road & Track yesterday. The new BMW 335I has an aftermarket mod called the PROcede ECU piggyback and Vishnu exhaust package. It keeps all warranty in tact from BMW and adds over 70whp! The price...$2650 including the exhaust!!! Unbelievable, I'm sure this setup will help the 335I give the new 2008 BMW M3 a run for the $$$. Oh, BMW said the modded 335I will be capable of 12.8/12.9 in the 1/4 mile and a 4.5 sec 0-60...WOW!

thanhvu
09-05-07, 09:25 AM
and this is related to 2nd gen in what way.....:uh:

rayy
09-05-07, 09:30 AM
i think it's related in the way that he owns a 2GS

rominl
09-05-07, 10:01 AM
and i agree

http://www.clublexus.com/forums/showthread.php?t=302582

4TehNguyen
09-05-07, 10:08 AM
chipping a turbo car (raises boost) yields big power? This is a world first! This is nothing new, you can do the same thing in any STi/Evo or any turbocharged car for that matter. Too bad engine life decreases as a result of increasing the power

and I doubt you keep the warranty intact, for instance if you leave hte pigback on when they start inspecting your engine/ECU because of a warranty problem thats a red flag that you did some mod. Yea the warranty is intact when you remove the piggyback to take it to the dealer

cherplex
09-05-07, 10:21 AM
This is where best bang for the buck with a turbo setup is better than a NA setup unless you use NOS ha ha

Rock-a-Lex
09-05-07, 10:43 AM
and this is related to 2nd gen in what way.....:uh:

Sorry, I put this in the wrong discussion area...any1 have a gun to blow my head off???:sad: I should have put it in the General Discussion area...my bad.

Anywho...I just thought I might throw this out there to show others who don't realize that the car industry seems to be taking a more drastic turn towards high power #'s than ever before. I mean c'mon we have new Honda Accords pulling 270HP...and Maximas even higher. 300HP was a great deal of power and usually put you ahead of a lot of cars not so anymore.

Also, my friend that lives across the street from me is getting the new 335I and they OFFER the PROcede ECU and exhaust package THROUGH THE DEALER and the warranty is STILL in effect after installation.:eek2: I always known that chipping and such is a great mod but usually for gasoline engines FI or NA it wouldn't yield ~90HP (crank) on this alone! I would expect results like this from turbo diesels but not gasoline engines. This is why I thought this was impressive. Not to mention that the cost is only around $2600 for this massive boost in power. Dashocker (Sean) must be loving his Bimmer right now...lol:thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:

DASHOCKER
09-05-07, 10:49 AM
Sorry, I put this in the wrong discussion area...any1 have a gun to blow my head off???:sad: I should have put it in the General Discussion area...my bad.

Anywho...I just thought I might throw this out there to show others who don't realize that the car industry seems to be taking a more drastic turn towards high power #'s than ever before. I mean c'mon we have new Honda Accords pulling 270HP...and Maximas even higher. 300HP was a great deal of power and usually put you ahead of a lot of cars not so anymore.

Also, my friend that lives across the street from me is getting the new 335I and they OFFER the PROcede ECU and exhaust package THROUGH THE DEALER and the warranty is STILL in effect after installation.:eek2: I always known that chipping and such is a great mod but usually for gasoline engines FI or NA it wouldn't yield ~90HP (crank) on this alone! I would expect results like this from turbo diesels but not gasoline engines. This is why I thought this was impressive. Not to mention that the cost is only around $2600 for this massive boost in power. Dashocker (Sean) must be loving his Bimmer right now...lol:thumbup::thumbup::thumbup::D..........

ST430
09-05-07, 10:57 AM
.....I'm sure this setup will help the 335I give the new 2008 BMW M3 a run for the $$$. Oh, BMW said the modded 335I will be capable of 12.8/12.9 in the 1/4 mile and a 4.5 sec 0-60...WOW!

roflmao, supposedly ~400hp and only 12.8 ETs? O.o

4TehNguyen
09-05-07, 11:00 AM
roflmao, supposedly ~400hp and only 12.8 ETs? O.o

power starts falling after 4500 rpm or so, you can thank the small turbos it has for that, if the power kept climbing past 4500rpm the 1/4 time would improve dramatically

STIG
09-05-07, 11:07 AM
Those piggy backed 335i are pretty damn quick. I'd stay away from them in my IS350. Can't touch them :D

GSoup
09-05-07, 11:12 AM
Someone already dyno'd it with the chip & exhaust...They pulled 340 at the wheel. That's about right, the 335i has been said to lay down about 270 at the wheel in stock form.

http://www.dragtimes.com/BMW--335i-Dyno-Sheets.html

Rock-a-Lex
09-05-07, 11:18 AM
That guy Shiv Pathak I think is the owner of the Vishnu company. He was mentioned in the Road & Track article. So 340whp would probably equate to around 390hp @ the crank...maybe? Not bad...I wish someone would come out with a nasty chip/ECU for the 2nd gen GS...

bitkahuna
09-05-07, 11:28 AM
340 at the wheels? :eek2: I think I just wet myself. :D

blacksc400
09-05-07, 11:33 AM
Chipping a V8?
How much that gain is? 5 hp? :)
SRT comes with piggy ECU that's why it is the intake that makes the most power for our GS4.

cherplex
09-05-07, 11:46 AM
That guy Shiv Pathak I think is the owner of the Vishnu company. He was mentioned in the Road & Track article. So 340whp would probably equate to around 390hp @ the crank...maybe? Not bad...I wish someone would come out with a nasty chip/ECU for the 2nd gen GS...

A chipped NA motor won't do much you'll have to combine in intake headers cams etc.......to see major gains.

rominl
09-05-07, 12:45 PM
so i was talking to my friend with the 335i and the PROcede chip. he's been talking to me about the v2 that they are coming out (he's getting it!) and here are some numbers. remember this is just beta chip setup and on 93 pump gas

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1042091&postcount=1

with exhaust and the v2 beta, the car pushes over 370rwhp. i really don't know how the m3 can walk away

llamaboiz
09-05-07, 12:49 PM
LOL and i suppose adding more hp to 'the ultimate mechanics dream' will make it even more reliable than it already is :thumbup:

4TehNguyen
09-05-07, 01:42 PM
i truly hope that whoever gets this mod starts changing the synthetic oil @ 5k, i doubt even synthetic can live long enough to effectively lubricate a turbo charged motor and its turbocharger for 15k miles (standard BMW interval) especially when the engine runs hot enough already, if not I pray for your engines life. 15k on synthetic in a N/A car is doable, but on a turbocharged motor?

geko29
09-05-07, 02:04 PM
Absolutely. I go just under 17k on my current bimmer (per the OBCs recommendation) and my UOAs say it's safe to go much longer. However when I pick up a 335i convertible in a year or two, I will definitely be putting the PROcede (and exhaust) on it, and will unequivocally be changing the oil (with Amsoil European 0w40, just like now) on a much shorter interval.

DASHOCKER
09-05-07, 02:26 PM
i truly hope that whoever gets this mod starts changing the synthetic oil @ 5k, i doubt even synthetic can live long enough to effectively lubricate a turbo charged motor and its turbocharger for 15k miles (standard BMW interval) especially when the engine runs hot enough already, if not I pray for your engines life. 15k on synthetic in a N/A car is doable, but on a turbocharged motor?BMW changes your oil annually even if you do not meet the 15k oil change interval..

picus
09-05-07, 03:05 PM
The PROcede is not warranted by BMW. It is a dealers call to warrant a car with it, but generally about 0% will do warranty work on a car if they find it. BMW dealers don't sell it, well, not with BMW's blessing anyway. The idea behind a piggyback is the dealer doesn't find it (theoretically). If Dinan comes out with a reflash then it will be warrantied (rumor is they are), and it will likely be an entire reflash, not a piggyback.

blacksc400
09-05-07, 03:34 PM
so i was talking to my friend with the 335i and the PROcede chip. he's been talking to me about the v2 that they are coming out (he's getting it!) and here are some numbers. remember this is just beta chip setup and on 93 pump gas

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1042091&postcount=1

with exhaust and the v2 beta, the car pushes over 370rwhp. i really don't know how the m3 can walk away

That's the question I have before in another post. The M3 "only" have 414 (424?) Hp, and been a V8 NA motor, it is hard to push another 50Hp on it ( especially with M engines ) unless SC it, but with 335, it is eaily matching the numbers with M3, and the extra cost of getting a M3, can be used as another mods or even a nice set of wheels... :)

rominl
09-05-07, 03:44 PM
That's the question I have before in another post. The M3 "only" have 414 (424?) Hp, and been a V8 NA motor, it is hard to push another 50Hp on it ( especially with M engines ) unless SC it, but with 335, it is eaily matching the numbers with M3, and the extra cost of getting a M3, can be used as another mods or even a nice set of wheels... :)
yup, exactly. that's been what i question about bmw when they decided on FI 335 vs v8 m3. it would be so much easier to tune the FI engine and still leave a lot of pocket change

cherplex
09-05-07, 03:54 PM
LOL and i suppose adding more hp to 'the ultimate mechanics dream' will make it even more reliable than it already is :thumbup:

Typical but expected words from a IS350 owner, get the IS-F if you want to compete power for power wait never mind by the time it comes out people will be putting single turbo kits on the 335i and the IS-F won't have a chance. Don't get me wrong I love toyota/lexus but a factory turbo setup will always be more fun than NA to me. Reliability is another issue but it is what it is.

ST430
09-05-07, 05:30 PM
power starts falling after 4500 rpm or so, you can thank the small turbos it has for that, if the power kept climbing past 4500rpm the 1/4 time would improve dramatically

Eh? Redline is around 6500, peak power comes on around 5500, which is typicaly for any combustion engine....either the guy doesn't know how to drive or another case of overbloated hyped numbers.

Here's a dyno chart (Dynojet) of a Procede 335i:

http://www.dragtimes.com/images_dyno/11252-2007-BMW-335i-Dyno.jpg

OC 335i
09-05-07, 07:04 PM
Someone already hit 12.5x with Procede/exhaust and no LSD. I don't care what some of you haters say, that is FAST.

cherplex
09-05-07, 07:50 PM
Someone already hit 12.5x with Procede/exhaust and no LSD. I don't care what some of you haters say, that is FAST.

That's pretty impressive, FI is the best platform to start out with. There will always be haters, While the IS350 is nice for what it is once the modding begins a Turbo platform like the 335I will always be better as far as bang for the buck. I'm tired of seeing some of these IS350 drivers think that their car is untouchable, some of them even put down IS250 owners because the 250 is not as fast as theirs :rolleyes: I'm probably going to get a PM from a mod about the comments I made here but I'm just saying it as I see it.

rominl
09-05-07, 11:16 PM
Someone already hit 12.5x with Procede/exhaust and no LSD. I don't care what some of you haters say, that is FAST.
that's insane! so when are you going to get the v2? :)

OC 335i
09-05-07, 11:29 PM
that's insane! so when are you going to get the v2? :)

I'll get it probably soon but I will wait to install it. I want to see how the tune is and how the afr/dynos/etc/etc looks.

Coco-bun
09-05-07, 11:39 PM
I mean c'mon we have new Honda Accords pulling 270HP...and Maximas even higher. 300HP was a great deal of power and usually put you ahead of a lot of cars not so anymore.

dont forget the new Camry does 0-60 in 5.8 seconds...thats how fast my GS4 does stock:eek2:

Rock-a-Lex
09-06-07, 06:55 AM
dont forget the new Camry does 0-60 in 5.8 seconds...thats how fast my GS4 does stock:eek2:

...depressing:sad:

rominl
09-06-07, 09:58 AM
...depressing:sad:
you are driving a car that's 10 yr old, that's about right :)

motivation to move on :)

Rock-a-Lex
09-06-07, 01:04 PM
you are driving a car that's 10 yr old, that's about right :)

motivation to move on :)

Hey buddy, 7 years young! Don't push it...LOL!:p I hear you, Not sure what I would like to move on to. I think either way it has to be a 4dr and has to be fast(er) also can't be too plain looking. Must also have good aftermarket support for future modding...<----very important!
:thumbup:

ST430
09-06-07, 02:07 PM
That's pretty impressive, FI is the best platform to start out with. There will always be haters, While the IS350 is nice for what it is once the modding begins a Turbo platform like the 335I will always be better as far as bang for the buck. I'm tired of seeing some of these IS350 drivers think that their car is untouchable, some of them even put down IS250 owners because the 250 is not as fast as theirs :rolleyes: I'm probably going to get a PM from a mod about the comments I made here but I'm just saying it as I see it.

i hope you're not classifying me in that "hater" group. I do not own an IS, and in fact still seriously contemplating a 335i, HOWEVER, i think there's too much bloated falsified hype about Shivnu's Procede given his 1) Dyno performance 2) Past history on reliablity and 3) seemingly Bimmer owner's arrogance and/or ignorance on whp/bhp. I completely understand the nature of FI engines, having had 2 Supra TT's (one 400hp the other 600hp) as well as my present Evo IX (500hp), that was verified on both the dyno AND the track (running 11 ET's). Giving props to BMW is great, especially have the ballz to offer twin turbos and keeping an inline 6 (Toyco are you listening), however even moded, it still isn't that fast or powerful, considering it's powertrain specs again (3L i6, tt, rwd, etc.)...

rominl
09-06-07, 02:14 PM
i hope you're not classifying me in that "hater" group. I do not own an IS, and in fact still seriously contemplating a 335i, HOWEVER, i think there's too much bloated falsified hype about Shivnu's Procede given his 1) Dyno performance 2) Past history on reliablity and 3) seemingly Bimmer owner's arrogance and/or ignorance on whp/bhp. I completely understand the nature of FI engines, having had 2 Supra TT's (one 400hp the other 600hp) as well as my present Evo IX (500hp), that was verified on both the dyno AND the track (running 11 ET's). Giving props to BMW is great, especially have the ballz to offer twin turbos and keeping an inline 6 (Toyco are you listening), however even moded, it still isn't that fast or powerful, considering it's powertrain specs again (3L i6, tt, rwd, etc.)...
well i never own any bmw but after taking the ride in the 335 with the proced v1 chip, the car flies. the is350 can't even come close, and it will give a good run for the is-f too i am sure

DASHOCKER
09-06-07, 02:26 PM
well i never own any bmw but after taking the ride in the 335 with the proced v1 chip, the car flies. the is350 can't even come close, and it will give a good run for the is-f too i am sureThe 335 is your calling:D

ST430
09-06-07, 02:30 PM
well i never own any bmw but after taking the ride in the 335 with the proced v1 chip, the car flies. the is350 can't even come close, and it will give a good run for the is-f too i am sure

agree 100%, however you're comparing modified to stock and not keeping in mind reliability, warranty, etc. which some value more than others.

4TehNguyen
09-06-07, 02:53 PM
agree 100%, however you're comparing modified to stock and not keeping in mind reliability, warranty, etc. which some value more than others.

and forced induction vs normal aspirated