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Old Dec 15, 2007 | 12:14 AM
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Funny but I never owned a Toyota and to be honest, not a huge Toyota fan. I do love their methods of business and their execution and how they just dominate in most categories.

When I was younger, those cars were something to think about. Today, the poor Toyota fan has nothing to get a hard on about, unless you find a Camry SE stimulating......You have to jump to Scion....even Lexus offers no coupe outside the SC 430, which is simply not what most young kids want.


Sad really....
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Old Dec 15, 2007 | 12:22 AM
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That pic is just depressing..........................
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Old Dec 15, 2007 | 12:25 AM
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Funny but I never owned a Toyota and to be honest, not a huge Toyota fan. I do love their methods of business and their execution and how they just dominate in most categories.

When I was younger, those cars were something to think about. Today, the poor Toyota fan has nothing to get a hard on about, unless you find a Camry SE stimulating......You have to jump to Scion....even Lexus offers no coupe outside the SC 430, which is simply not what most young kids want.


Sad really....
It is sad, but Toyota was on a quest to become the largest auto maker in the world. They cut all those money-losers (e.g. Supra).

And Lexus' target demo is not young kids. I think I read that their demo is like males over 50 y/o. For a geriatric, the SC430 is plenty exciting.

But rest assured, they are about to make a big comeback in the sports segment with the LFA.
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Old Dec 15, 2007 | 12:41 AM
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Old Dec 15, 2007 | 01:18 AM
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They had huevos when they had RWD offerings across the line-up even if they didn't have much performance. FWD was the beginning of the downhill slide. But then they kept the nicer sedans domestically.

Bring back a RWD Celica.
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Old Dec 15, 2007 | 01:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Coco-bun
when toyota had *****....
Wow. What is that?
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Old Dec 15, 2007 | 01:37 AM
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The Celica All Trac and Toyota MR-2 were among my favorite cars at the time. I was dead set on getting an MR-2 right until the NSX came out. Sometimes I still think about picking up an MR-2.
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Old Dec 15, 2007 | 01:59 AM
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^I miss my MR2

For the price you couldn't get a nicer Mid engine car like that.
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The Celica GT4/All Trac is by far my favorite car ever, hands down.

I would love to see it brought back and compete with (and demolish ) the Evo and WRX.

It'll probably never happen though
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Originally Posted by JDM
^I miss my MR2

For the price you couldn't get a nicer Mid engine car like that.
The only Toyotas (not including Lexus) my family has ever owned were an MR2 and a Supra. It'll probably stay that way until something major changes over there. The only Toyota I'd look at buying would be a 4Runner. Their cars are nothing special, they're just bland.
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Old Dec 15, 2007 | 08:16 AM
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only toyotas i would by currently are the avalon, land cruiser, or for runner, but honeslt, my favorite toyota would be an all black 1997 supra, its such a nice car
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Old Dec 15, 2007 | 08:33 AM
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Good thread.

I think most of us respect Toyota's dominance in quality high volume manufacturing processes and a lot of the good ergonomics and function design in the line-up. To grow they decided to focus on the broadest segments of the market and not niches like sporty coupes which never sell in high numbers.

They're a very 'rational' company, but with little (almost NO) passion, emotion, art in anything really, except maybe the exotic but far off LF-A.

But hey, most people want bland and reliable.
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Old Dec 15, 2007 | 08:39 AM
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The supra and MR-2 Turbo were the only two toyotas I have ever been excited about.

Can't tell you how **** I was when toyota decided to replace the MR-2 with this (fill in the blank):

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Old Dec 15, 2007 | 08:39 AM
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
Good thread.

I think most of us respect Toyota's dominance in quality high volume manufacturing processes and a lot of the good ergonomics and function design in the line-up. To grow they decided to focus on the broadest segments of the market and not niches like sporty coupes which never sell in high numbers.

They're a very 'rational' company, but with little (almost NO) passion, emotion, art in anything really, except maybe the exotic but far off LF-A.

But hey, most people want bland and reliable.
Yeah, I do have a great deal of respect for their logic and execution. I mean they are a GLOBAL powerhouse. However, its amazing the 180 that occurred as they HAD more sporty offerings than most companies.

Amazing. The teases and concepts are tiring. If you are young, you probably don't even know Toyota exists outside of getting your moms hand me down Camry.
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Old Dec 15, 2007 | 08:43 AM
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This article goes well with this thread

http://editorial.autos.msn.com/artic...&topart=sports
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