View Full Version : Minivan bumpers don't bounce back ( a lot of FAIL in this thread)


1SICKLEX
12-20-07, 10:22 PM
Minivan bumpers don't bounce back
Minor impacts cause expensive damage in low-speed crash tests conducted by insurance industry.

NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) -- Not one of six 2008 model year minivans tested by an insurance industry group was able to withstand a low speed, parking lot style collision without sustaining several thousand dollars in damage.

The best performer in the Insurance Institute for Highway Safety's test was the Honda Odyssey which sustained a total of $5,258 worth of damage in four separate low-speed collision tests.

The worst performer was the Nissan Quest which tallied up a total of $8,102 worth of dents and broken lights in the tests.

"In the event of a crash, all Nissan products are engineered to meet or surpass the safety regulations established by the federal government as well as pass our own rigorous internal safety requirements," Nissan said in a statement. "We will study and analyze the test results to help understand how we can keep insurance premiums low for our customers."

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To test how well the bumpers performed, the vehicles were moved backwards and forwards at a speed of six miles per hour into a barrier shaped like a car bumper. Then, to test how well the bumpers protected the vehicle's corners, the minivans were sent diagonally frontward and backwards into the barriers at a speed of three miles per hour.

The tailgates of five of six the vans - all except the Chevrolet Uplander - sustained damage in the full-width bumper test in which the vehicles were pushed straight into the barrier.

In the case of the Nissan Quest and Toyota Sienna, the tailgate was so badly damaged it had to be replaced.

Nissan has not done well in Insurance Institute low-speed damage tests, the agency said. The Nissan Maxima and Infiniti G35 also showed poor results in these sorts of tests compared to their industry rivals.

In front collision tests, the Honda Odyssey suffered damage similar to that seen with the other minivans, but the Odyssey did much better in rear impact tests.

Much of the difference in the test results had to do with differences in repair costs rather than difference in the actual severity of damage. For example, it would cost $347 to replace a plastic radiator support on the Grand Caravan but $674 to replace the same part on the Nissan Quest.


Minivan low-speed bumper tests
Estimated costs to repair damage from test impacts
Front full width Front corner Rear full width Rear corner Total damage

Honda Odyssey $1,538 $1,446 $1,531 $743 $5,258
Dodge Grand Caravan $1,347 $1,581 $2,084 $483 $5,495
Toyota Sienna $840 $767 $2,890 $1,229 $5,726
Chevrolet Uplander $1,631 $1,227 $1,896 $1,045 $5,779
Kia Sedona $1,176 $1,854 $2,369 $1,126 $6,525
Nissan Quest $1,603 $1,995 $3,549 $995 $8,102


Source:Insurance Institute for Highway Safety


http://money.cnn.com/2007/12/2...n=yes (http://money.cnn.com/2007/12/20/autos/minivan_bumper_tests/index.htm?cnn=yes)


Best:

http://image.automotive.com/f/miscellaneous/2008-honda-odyssey-is-hi-tech-rich-at-25-860/7218126+w649+cr1+re0+ar1/2008-honda-odyssey-front-right.jpg

Worst:

http://www.autobytel.com/images/2007/nissan/quest/400/2007_Nissan_Quest_exfrpass34.jpg

flipside909
12-20-07, 10:31 PM
Worst:

http://www.autobytel.com/images/2007/nissan/quest/400/2007_Nissan_Quest_exfrpass34.jpg

It goes to show you style is not necessarily functional. The more stylish cars get, the more they sustain damage in smaller incidents like this.

CK6Speed
12-21-07, 02:26 AM
Much of the difference in the test results had to do with differences in repair costs rather than difference in the actual severity of damage. For example, it would cost $347 to replace a plastic radiator support on the Grand Caravan but $674 to replace the same part on the Nissan Quest.


I guess they all are about the same level of safely, just the price on the parts are very different. I wonder why Nissan would have such high parts costs?

This is one reason why I never understood tests that use repair cost to determine which cars have percieved better safely. One of my cars fender cost over $1,200 alone, while my other car is something like $300. Does that make one safer than the other?

Lexmex
12-21-07, 07:14 AM
When clients come into my uncle's shop with busted bumpers on minivans, he regularly hears comments like , "debe de ser como una troca (it should be like a truck)" and he politely tells them it is nothing more than an oversized car. He has had quite a few repeat minivan customers.