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Old Apr 2, 2008 | 04:34 PM
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By JAMES FRANEY, AUTOMOTIVE NEWS EUROPE


BMW will decide by the end of the year if it will sell engines and other components to General Motors and other rival automakers, says Friedrich Eichiner, the carmaker's board member for corporate and brand development.

When asked if BMW is talking to GM, Daimler and Fiat about supplying engines, Eichiner said: "We are talking with those companies you mentioned."

BMW will decide by the end of the year because "it does not make sense to go on talking and talking forever," Eichiner told Automotive News Europe on the sidelines of a press event here.

Selling engines and other components to other automakers is part of BMW CEO Norbert Reithofer's Number One strategic plan to boost the carmaker's profitability.

In February, German media reports said BMW is looking for potential customers for engines and transmissions.

Until now, the company had not confirmed that it is talking with GM, Daimler and Fiat.
Source: http://www.autoweek.com/apps/pbcs.dl...814900680/1065
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Old Apr 2, 2008 | 05:06 PM
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Why, the DI 3.6L is a great engine. I guess I could see the 4.4L BMW engine being useful in the Tahoe hybrid, but I also think that the 3.6L would offer more than enough power for that in place of the 6.0L there now.
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Old Apr 2, 2008 | 05:28 PM
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I love it. BMW is an engine company. Hell they use GM trannies and Mitsubishi turbos. We live in a global market.

Put those fantastic engines everywhere!
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Old Apr 2, 2008 | 05:54 PM
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Great idea. Someone get Pininfarina to help GM and Honda with their designs too.
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Old May 9, 2008 | 03:46 AM
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do thye really use mitsubishi turbos?
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Old May 9, 2008 | 04:35 AM
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You know, GM isn't called General Motors for nothing. They have a huge reserve of engine designs and manufacturing capability, in fact a lot of other manufacturers, including our beloved Toyota/Lexus copied engine design elements from GM at some point. However you see GM buy engines from Toyota, Honda, now BMW. I guess the unions really are killing GM's manufacturing to the point that GM is willing to outsource parts.
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Old May 9, 2008 | 06:42 AM
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I can see GM possibly looking to buy some high end luxury V8s from BMW... to replace the Northstar that they've said they no longer intend to produce and go in the cars where the LSx series is just too aggressive.

Other than that I don't see where they need any help. Sure the 3.6 DI isn't as powerful as the 3.0tt, but I'll bet it also costs less to manufacturer, has better greater durability, and a lower cost of maintenance.
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Old May 9, 2008 | 06:45 AM
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However you see GM buy engines from Toyota, Honda, now BMW.
Hmmm... has GM bought motors from Toyota, or are you just talking about some of their joint assembly projects like the Vibe/Matrix where various components were sourced from one of the two manufacturers for the end product?

The only Honda motor I can think of that was used was the one from the Saturn Vue Redline... were there others?

So far I don't think it's becoming too common for GM to buy motors from other companies, though I could definitely see it becoming that way, it'd be a shame since in terms of reliability and power GM always did very well in the powertrain department... one of the areas they've pretty much never been below par in.
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Will these engines have an actual oil dipstick and durable cooling system parts?
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Old May 9, 2008 | 06:09 PM
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I don't like it....if there's anything GM does well, it's the V8 pushrods, buy the smaller engines, but leave the 8's alone please.
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Old May 9, 2008 | 09:11 PM
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Maybe this will be the only way American companies survive, outsource the entire car, pick and choose the best of everything.

GM has some nice power trains with minimal problems, but more then a few times I've come across owners of new GM vehicles with a brand new engine, trans, etc... before they even hit 1000 miles, reason for new part, severely under filled from the factory, just thinking about that gives me chills
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