Seriously, this is getting out of control. $3.55 for premium. Diesel is $4.40 in some areas.

I had planned to make quite a few CL meets out of state but this is seriously making me reconsider those trips. I even wonder would it affect attendance to events like NOPI or the next Lexfest.

Washington has its head so far up its ass they seem oblivious to this. I honestly wonder to Senators, Representatives, the President, etc etc go to gas stations to fill up their cars. I honestly don't think so. No freaking way.

Nothing says we are running out of oil. We are building no refineries. We are building no nuclear power plants. We won't touch off shore or Alaska. They want to promote ethanol and have got damn corn flakes cost $20 for a box.

I know about China etc and increased demand. I know about the damn speculators driving prices up.

There seems to be no concern here that gas prices are up 3.5 times since the mid 1990s.

This of course means, everything ELSE on this planet has gone up in price. Again, Washington acts like inflation is non-existent. It seems every week, when I go out to a restaurant, prices are up and portions are down. I tried to get a hooker the other day and the prices were ridiculous, I just went home by myself!!! :D :D

Hey, I am no Saint but damnit, something must be done!!! This is ridiculous that our leaders are doing NOTHING ABOUT THIS ISSUE!!!!

Its nothing but I am writing all my Senators and my Governor and the House a letter as my right as a citizen. We need to be heard.

Even if I was super wealthy, I would see there is a PROBLEM here as I am an American and I see my fellow Americans suffering.

Mr. Senator, let me tell you the average American Conversation:

"Happy Birthday Mike, dude have you seen gas prices"

"Merry Christmas Mike, hey hun, bring a sweater over, the heating bill last month was ridiculous, its off"

"Mike, we are considering changing our csr service hours to save money, what are your thoughts"

"Sir, your hot dog is $8.73, which includes a $2 service charge, a .50 cent random tax and sorry but the bun is optional and will be another $5.00"

"Sir I know this toll is paid for already but we are going to continue to charge you .50 cents just because we can, to hell with morals"

Last week, I went to Perimeter Mall, one of the best malls and busiest Malls in the SE, here in Atlanta on a Friday. It was EERILY QUIET. It was primetime, 5-7pm and when I tell you there was more parking there than at the Braves stadium during the off season. I could not believe it. After walking around, I saw a handful of people and stores either closed or going out of business.

Today, I was downtown eating at my usual Sunday Margarita spot :) and again, EERILY QUIET. I could not believe I was downtown.

How do we fix this?

Filled up the X5 with 4.09 here in SF last night and it stopped at 75$. I guess there is a limit of 75$ purchase at that gas station with credit card. And the tank wasnt even full yet!!

Filled up the X5 with 4.09 here in SF last night and it stopped at 75$. I guess there is a limit of 75$ purchase at that gas station with credit card. And the tank wasnt even full yet!!

lol!!! That is crazy!!! You know I see all these big SUVs still, especially the older ones and it must be around $90-$100 to fill it up.

Something must be done.....

Yes the gas prices are having a ripple effect. Hybrids are starting to take over the parking lot and garage at work.

At least in Atlanta you guys do not have Michael Bloomtard for a mayor, whos trying to impose a "congestion pricing plan", which will further cripple business.

$3.97 premium here today and that's self serve:thumbdn:

it's $5.36 for premium (assuming 1:1 exchange rate) north of you. Our city's entire fleet is almost all Toyotas lol. Corolla, Camry (incl. hybrid) and Prius. I haven't seen a Lumina, Century or Crown Vic taxi in a long while (my california vacation excluded)

We can solve it by assassinating each oil cartel member one by one, start our own little terror group to fight OPEC, another terrorist group.

My friend lives in UAE and gas is $1.86/gal there. :sad:

Self-serve,

Costco 91 Premium today @ $3.69 a gallon..

Theres nothing to stop the oil companies. Supply is down, demand is up. When people cant afford to get to work anymore, then demand will go down. Its gonna hurt, and its gonna hurt for a while, hopefully as soon as the government gets its head out its ass, and stop this corn for fuel BS something will be done. I paid 3.47 and thats in Texas, I live about 45 minutes from where the oil comes in and Im still payin. The market will correct itself, it always does, its just this time it may take a little longer.

If you think of it the average driver only loses about $600-900 dollars a year on gas increase from high $2-low$3 which isn't much...

I just got back from filing up the tank in my IS.

$3.79 for premium. Total was $63 bucks. :cry:

luckily, I get gas every 2.5 weeks cause I live close to work and school.

with my sc here in SF, it averages to about $10 a day... i live about 3 miles from work.

The chevron by my work on howard and 9th was 4.09 for prem
I drove to serramonte and the prem was 3.98... filled half tank of $40.

Then I went to H&R block.. 175 to prepare my taxes.. had to pay $80 to fed and $33 to state.

As more and more people catch on to the trend our Government is doing, there will be conflicts. As in the past, when people suffer due to the government, there usually is a revolt that happens (this is based off of not feeding people/starvation examples). Its just a matter of time before people had enough of it...

lol 3.50s? stop complaining. lol

i think everyone needs to boycott gas for a while.

We are going to run out of gas and we'll be doomed! :p

Filled up the X5 with 4.09 here in SF last night and it stopped at 75$. I guess there is a limit of 75$ purchase at that gas station with credit card. And the tank wasnt even full yet!!


yeah the limit for gas stations is $75 in sf. i filled up my range rover the other day at $4.29 and filled up second time totalling $90! gas prices are insane here in sf. :(:(

$3.55 is regular here

As more and more people catch on to the trend our Government is doing, there will be conflicts. As in the past, when people suffer due to the government, there usually is a revolt that happens (this is based off of not feeding people/starvation examples). Its just a matter of time before people had enough of it...

Wont happen in this country. People here are too diverse, and usually fighting with each other instead of coming together and overthrowing the government.

while i agree that the prices are outrageous and because of them, i do cut back on driving, trips, etc. the thing that really gets me is the fact that the gov't. barely acknowledges it and the direct side effects upon the economy and the average working families. the economy they always talk about is the rich people's economy; investments, and real estate. those things don't really matter to those people, most of this country's population, who dont have investments and still rent apartments. those people have a totally different economy than the one that is in the news.

i guess that they politicians know that poor/middle class people dont have as much influece as the rich, so they pander to the rich instead.

I tried to get a hooker the other day and the prices were ridiculous, I just went home by myself!!! :D :D



Be careful, a friend of mine went home alone regularly in this situation and ended up with a nasty repetitive strain injury of the wrist.

And he broke the main spring on his self-winding watch. :)

The senate and house don't care and don't know because they get state compensation for their gas if they file it under traveling expenses :( It could be a 100 per gallon and they still wont care as we are paying for their gas

you are kidding right? look at the gas price on the west coast

San Mateo, CA

http://www.kevchang.com/images/temp/gas.jpg

i think my heart would stop if i saw that here.

you are kidding right? look at the gas price on the west coast

San Mateo, CA

http://www.kevchang.com/images/temp/gas.jpg

That gas station always has about 30 cents higher than the rest. It's the one across from the Peter Pan BMW.

I was told that he own the gas station for the tax write off purpose. :confused:

Actually Mike we are in the process of building new Nuclear reactors. Or at least the first application for a Nuclear Reactor was submitted like a month ago.
But I fail to see what that has to do with oil prices as most of our energy in the US comes from Coal. :uh:

In the end what can congress do about the issue?
What actual power does congress really have to stem the price of oil?
Or the president for that matter?

I guess you can make an argument for strengthening the dollar significantly but fat chance of that in the short term.

$3.87 for 91 here in Santa Monica. Sigh, this is at my usual fill-up location which typically has low prices.

3.91 for premium in Modesto, in the Central Valley of CA. Don't complain, you just wait until you hit 4+ a gallon, then you can complain.

Ah... 3.27 at the place I filled up today ;)

And 3.17 at where I do my groceries :p

http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/6048/gasprices1de948a6je4.jpg

last time i filled up here in the northwest it was running $3.71 premium at a local chevron. its usually the cheapest around from what ive experienced. and lol @ cpones post

I'm paying about 100 euro to fill up the GS with regular.
Thats allmost $160.............

gas here in Vancouver, Canada is about $4.54 for regular

so u guys are having it easy...

We took a dime increase on Saturday night so here in San Jose about the cheapest you are going to find is 3.65/3.75/3.85.

If it wasn't for the tragedy associated with that 737 skidding off the runway at Midway, you could raise the argument that if a pilot saw those prices today, he would probably try whatever he could to taxi over and fill up.

http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/6048/gasprices1de948a6je4.jpg

lol hahahaha.

honestly guys. i've been thinking about getting a diesel and converting it to take veggie oil since I have a friend that owns a sushi bar and he goes through a ton of oil for tempura dishes...

am i the only one thinking about this??

i do 30k miles per year and getting a diesel to do this would not only be fun, but it would save loads of cash.

thoughts?

^^ not a good idea man, the current diesel price in US is higher than Gas price and looking at the trend, it will continue to be this way

http://tonto.eia.doe.gov/oog/info/gdu/gasdiesel.asp

even if it's waste veggie oil? :)

Actually Mike we are in the process of building new Nuclear reactors. Or at least the first application for a Nuclear Reactor was submitted like a month ago.
But I fail to see what that has to do with oil prices as most of our energy in the US comes from Coal. :uh:

In the end what can congress do about the issue?
What actual power does congress really have to stem the price of oil?
Or the president for that matter?

I guess you can make an argument for strengthening the dollar significantly but fat chance of that in the short term.

C, we just need more alternative energy, I'm all for Nuclear Power. Hell we got thousands of destructive Nuclear bombs! Lets use it for something positive.


Be careful, a friend of mine went home alone regularly in this situation and ended up with a nasty repetitive strain injury of the wrist.

And he broke the main spring on his self-winding watch. :)

:D:D:D:D lol lol lmfao

honestly guys. i've been thinking about getting a diesel and converting it to take veggie oil since I have a friend that owns a sushi bar and he goes through a ton of oil for tempura dishes...

am i the only one thinking about this??

i do 30k miles per year and getting a diesel to do this would not only be fun, but it would save loads of cash.

thoughts?

I am seriously waiting for the high tech euro diesels but the price differential on diesel is starting to make an impact. It wasn't that long ago that here in Cali, there wasn't a lot of differential to diesel compared to premium. Now we are seeing six to ten percent more for diesel so in order to make it worth the bother of having to find diesel to begin with, the differential to a gas model would have to be at least 25% better mileage with little, if any, premium on the diesel. The high tech diesels do that compared to the current petrol alternatives in the larger luxury sedans but there are other areas like putting these things on a diet and at least BMW appears to be pushing into turbos across the board to get bigger punch with smaller engines. I love the choice, just wish they would really get here before the dollar declines any more.

honestly guys. i've been thinking about getting a diesel and converting it to take veggie oil since I have a friend that owns a sushi bar and he goes through a ton of oil for tempura dishes...

am i the only one thinking about this??

i do 30k miles per year and getting a diesel to do this would not only be fun, but it would save loads of cash.

thoughts?

Yeah, just make sure the government doesnt find out, otherwise you're going to be hit with a hefty fine. See, the price of gas includes taxes, which are very high, around 25% of the cost of gas. Since you wont be paying these taxes but still going to use public roads, you'll get a fine, and they will make you pay these taxes.

honestly guys. i've been thinking about getting a diesel and converting it to take veggie oil since I have a friend that owns a sushi bar and he goes through a ton of oil for tempura dishes...

am i the only one thinking about this??

i do 30k miles per year and getting a diesel to do this would not only be fun, but it would save loads of cash.

thoughts?

http://greenfuels.co.uk/
check this out
i saw it on Fifth Gear
pretty cool
but still a few steps to go through in making ur own diesel
the website says 2,500 pounds for the fuelpod2
so it will take 2 years to break even in UK but i think it could be faster since diesel cost more in US

let us know how it goes if u decide to go biodiesel

In the end what can congress do about the issue?
What actual power does congress really have to stem the price of oil?
Or the president for that matter?


Start by lowering federal taxes on gasoline.
Next allow exploration and drilling EVERYWHERE the U.S. has control over.
Build nuclear power stations.
Allow oil shale development in the West. This is what Canada did and not only is it helping their government, it's making the country richer!
Negotiate with Iraq to get some free oil as payback for getting rid of Saddam and rebuilding their nation.
Provide BIG tax credits for fuel efficient vehicles.

By the way, gasoline consumption has been falling in the U.S. for quite a while.

i think my heart would stop if i saw that here.

It's about DOUBLE that in the UK right now. :yikes:

Self-serve,

Costco 91 Premium today @ $3.69 a gallon..

and thats cheap for so cal, considering i;ve been seeing stations selling it for near 4 bucks a gallon, and its not even summer time yet!:woohoo:

I would HAPPILY pay $3.55 for premium.
Just this past weekend I paid $4.29 in Malibu. lol

honestly guys. i've been thinking about getting a diesel and converting it to take veggie oil since I have a friend that owns a sushi bar and he goes through a ton of oil for tempura dishes...

am i the only one thinking about this??

i do 30k miles per year and getting a diesel to do this would not only be fun, but it would save loads of cash.

thoughts?

i know of some diesel truck guys on another board i'm on using used atf, 100% straight. one is up to 25000 miles with no ill effects.

So, you still complaining about that $3.55 now that you've seen what some others are paying? :p

For the record, it was $3.97 at a 76 station here in the Bay Area (Santa Clara).

Want some cheese with that whine? :p

I would HAPPILY pay $3.55 for premium.
Just this past weekend I paid $4.29 in Malibu. lol

and i thought where i lived was high....sucks that gas stations charge according to how much they think people in the area can pay. :mad:

i know of some diesel truck guys on another board i'm on using used atf, 100% straight. one is up to 25000 miles with no ill effects.

Man, I gotta find out where those ol' boys can buy a gallon of ATF for less than $4.20 which is what diesel is here.

Man, I gotta find out where those ol' boys can buy a gallon of ATF for less than $4.20 which is what diesel is here.

silly me, i forgot to mention the part that makes it worthwhile. they are using used ATF! they are mechanics and they just keep the fluid they get from doing atf flushes. they added in an extra filter in their fuel lines.

honestly guys. i've been thinking about getting a diesel and converting it to take veggie oil since I have a friend that owns a sushi bar and he goes through a ton of oil for tempura dishes...

am i the only one thinking about this??

i do 30k miles per year and getting a diesel to do this would not only be fun, but it would save loads of cash.

thoughts?

Sounds good, let us know how it works out for ya.

Just keep in mind it has to be an older diesel (pre-04 Jetta/Golf/Passat TDI and obviously non-Bluetec MBs).

The older ones without the fancy technology can do straight veggie oil without much fuss.

thought id share this. taken over the weekend in san francisco with my iphone. im in a car so im taking it through a window :) anyone wanna try to beat this? sukkaaaaa lol

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g225/133712/IMG_0009.jpg

We can solve it by assassinating each oil cartel member one by one, start our own little terror group to fight OPEC, another terrorist group.

IB FBI raid to CL.

thought id share this. taken over the weekend in san francisco with my iphone. im in a car so im taking it through a window :) anyone wanna try to beat this? sukkaaaaa lol

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g225/133712/IMG_0009.jpg


I can't beat your SF prices...but for our Southwestern folks....

http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/28/m01a1505wm7.jpg

Hey that what the tax rebates are for and stop whinnying Mike. You get $600.00 per person, $1,200.00 for couple and $300.00 per child so you can fill up your gas tank and take your family for a quick vacation, but not further than 50 miles from your house( then you will be broke)....:D

thought id share this. taken over the weekend in san francisco with my iphone. im in a car so im taking it through a window :) anyone wanna try to beat this? sukkaaaaa lol

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g225/133712/IMG_0009.jpg

I saw a Chevron for 4.25 regular in LA

I'm thinking about buying an older VW Jetta and with another guy...brewing my own biodiesel from used veggie oil as well.......in the meantime----- I park my sportscar during the week and commute in my Honda Insight --- getting 72.1 MPG -- holds 10 gallons and goes over 700 miles on 1 tank -- I fill up every 3 weeks (52 mile RT daily commute).

Look instead of whining it is time to run for office ie: Senate,Congress etc etc.
I ran for town council did not make it but I am not gone!!!

Seriously, this is getting out of control. $3.55 for premium. Diesel is $4.40 in some areas.

I had planned to make quite a few CL meets out of state but this is seriously making me reconsider those trips. I even wonder would it affect attendance to events like NOPI or the next Lexfest.

Washington has its head so far up its ass they seem oblivious to this. I honestly wonder to Senators, Representatives, the President, etc etc go to gas stations to fill up their cars. I honestly don't think so. No freaking way.

Nothing says we are running out of oil. We are building no refineries. We are building no nuclear power plants. We won't touch off shore or Alaska. They want to promote ethanol and have got damn corn flakes cost $20 for a box.

I know about China etc and increased demand. I know about the damn speculators driving prices up.

There seems to be no concern here that gas prices are up 3.5 times since the mid 1990s.

This of course means, everything ELSE on this planet has gone up in price. Again, Washington acts like inflation is non-existent. It seems every week, when I go out to a restaurant, prices are up and portions are down. I tried to get a hooker the other day and the prices were ridiculous, I just went home by myself!!! :D :D

Hey, I am no Saint but damnit, something must be done!!! This is ridiculous that our leaders are doing NOTHING ABOUT THIS ISSUE!!!!

Its nothing but I am writing all my Senators and my Governor and the House a letter as my right as a citizen. We need to be heard.

Even if I was super wealthy, I would see there is a PROBLEM here as I am an American and I see my fellow Americans suffering.

Mr. Senator, let me tell you the average American Conversation:

"Happy Birthday Mike, dude have you seen gas prices"

"Merry Christmas Mike, hey hun, bring a sweater over, the heating bill last month was ridiculous, its off"

"Mike, we are considering changing our csr service hours to save money, what are your thoughts"

"Sir, your hot dog is $8.73, which includes a $2 service charge, a .50 cent random tax and sorry but the bun is optional and will be another $5.00"

"Sir I know this toll is paid for already but we are going to continue to charge you .50 cents just because we can, to hell with morals"

Last week, I went to Perimeter Mall, one of the best malls and busiest Malls in the SE, here in Atlanta on a Friday. It was EERILY QUIET. It was primetime, 5-7pm and when I tell you there was more parking there than at the Braves stadium during the off season. I could not believe it. After walking around, I saw a handful of people and stores either closed or going out of business.

Today, I was downtown eating at my usual Sunday Margarita spot :) and again, EERILY QUIET. I could not believe I was downtown.

How do we fix this?

That was April 6th. It is April 28th.

I just paid $3.89 a gallon. THere is now $4 gas in Atlanta.

The little increase do add up but it isn't that difficult to make adjustments in other areas. I'd already altered my driving patterns 2 years ago and I expect to drive sub 9K this year. :) Since the insurance premiums are decreasing as the car ages, it off-sets the gas. I'm at a wash so far.

I don't mind riding this and I now take it for local stuffs like simple drop-off errands.