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Old Jul 6, 2008 | 08:20 PM
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Once again, Toyota is challenging other manufacturers to bring new innovations to the car industry. Toyota will use solar panels on their Toyota Prius lines in 2009, it appears but not set in stone yet.

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Interesting if true. However it doesnt seem like it will boost MPG significantly if at all. Maybe in future generations it will play a larger role.
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It also mentioned that part of that solar power would power the Prius' AC unit too. By doing that, they can free up a lot of resources for a more efficient car.
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My neighbors A8 has solar panels that run its air conditioning system. How is Toyota "first" to do this? It is a $790 option from Audi......

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I wouldn't be surprised if it's true. I would expect Toyota to use some new innovations on the next-gen Prius. Last year it was actually rumoured that Toyota would equip solar panels on the next-gen Prius, along with an exhaust heat recovery system.

Regarding solar panels, the only question would be durability, for example during severe weather.
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My neighbors A8 has solar panels that run its air conditioning system. How is Toyota "first" to do this?
Yea, I was just about to bring that up. Its been an option since the mid 1990's on A8's. However, unless they updated the system, it was used to only ventilate the car during hot days (no A/C).

But it would be cool if you could recharge the batteries using solar power instead of plugging it in to an outlet.
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Originally Posted by mavericck
My neighbors A8 has solar panels that run its air conditioning system. How is Toyota "first" to do this?
http://www.audiusa.com/audi/us/en2/n...s/options.html

From Audi's website, optional equipment:

Solar sunroof
Operates the fresh air fan to reduce interior temperature when parked in sun
So technically, yes, Toyota would be the first to use solar power for the A/C. The A8 only uses solar power to spin the fresh air fan when parked in the sun. An A/C system is much more energy-intensive than a simple fresh air fan.

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Interesting if true. However it doesnt seem like it will boost MPG significantly if at all. Maybe in future generations it will play a larger role.
Overall, using solar panels for the A/C will provide a real and useful improvement in overall vehicle efficiency, even though the Prius has electric A/C. Less electric power needed to run the A/C means that electric power can be used elsewhere, such as the ability to run the vehicle longer with the engine shut off.
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here's another link

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080706/bs_nm/toyota_dc_1

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My neighbors A8 has solar panels that run its air conditioning system. How is Toyota "first" to do this? It is a $790 option from Audi......
Yours is a solar panel moonroof. And like you said, it'll be used to run the A/C system so the engine doesn't have to run. The Prius will have the roof covered in panels. Presumely to trick charge the battery to supplement regenerative braking; anything to minimise the use of the engine to recharge the battery.

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Interesting if true. However it doesnt seem like it will boost MPG significantly if at all. Maybe in future generations it will play a larger role.
maybe not but it's a small step in the right direction. Plus, it can supplement regenerative braking so it's like having a more efficient regenerative braking system except it also works when the car is moving and at a standstill.

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I wouldn't be surprised if it's true. I would expect Toyota to use some new innovations on the next-gen Prius. Last year it was actually rumoured that Toyota would equip solar panels on the next-gen Prius, along with an exhaust heat recovery system.

Regarding solar panels, the only question would be durability, for example during severe weather.
I thought the exhaust heat recovery system was on the Estima HSD... or at least a concept on the Estima HSD.
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Originally Posted by Nextourer
here's another link

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080706/bs_nm/toyota_dc_1



Yours is a solar panel moonroof. And like you said, it'll be used to run the A/C system so the engine doesn't have to run. The Prius will have the roof covered in panels. Presumely to trick charge the battery to supplement regenerative braking; anything to minimise the use of the engine to recharge the battery.
So they aren't first to use solar panels to improve fuel efficiency, they are just the first make the entire roof solar panels to improve efficiency.
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Originally Posted by Nextourer
I thought the exhaust heat recovery system was on the Estima HSD... or at least a concept on the Estima HSD.
Correct, the Estima hybrid has an exhaust heat recovery system. I simply meant the Prius current does not, but the next-gen is sure to have it. That, along with other new innovations like the rumoured solar panels together should provide a meaningful boost in fuel economy without compromising other things performance.
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Originally Posted by mavericck
So they aren't first to use solar panels to improve fuel efficiency, they are just the first make the entire roof solar panels to improve efficiency.
If true, they will be the first to use solar panels to power the A/C unit.
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Originally Posted by Nextourer


I thought the exhaust heat recovery system was on the Estima HSD... or at least a concept on the Estima HSD.
Any info on how that works? Never heard of it.
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Originally Posted by GFerg
Any info on how that works? Never heard of it.
I don't know the specifics. I'm thinking it's used as radiant heat to heat the cabin... unless I got it confused with another concept...

TRD, help me out on this please!

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Correct, the Estima hybrid has an exhaust heat recovery system. I simply meant the Prius current does not, but the next-gen is sure to have it. That, along with other new innovations like the rumoured solar panels together should provide a meaningful boost in fuel economy without compromising other things performance.
ahh ok. I wonder if they'll keep the thermos system though. It seems none of the other Toyota/Lexus hybrids have them. I don't know if it's because Toyota thought it's not worth the extra cost or because they wanted to make the other cars normal (without having the sound of the coolant pump whenever you turn on/off the car).

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So they aren't first to use solar panels to improve fuel efficiency, they are just the first make the entire roof solar panels to improve efficiency.
<shrug>. I didn't make the headlines
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Originally Posted by TRDFantasy
If true, they will be the first to use solar panels to power the A/C unit.
because they made the whole roof a gigantic solar panel....
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Old Jul 6, 2008 | 10:38 PM
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solar powered + plug in Prius is doable. the problem is the cost

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJX-sGn5RDo
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