To future or anyone else who knows: I went to Kinkos to print out this attached image and it looked like ****.The document was done at 72ppi in RGB mode.Now heres my questions.Should I be doing all the text in Illustrator? Or would a higher document resolution help out, all the text looks pixelated as **** on the print, but in PS it looks fine.Also the pictures on the document were done in 72ppi RGB mode and they were like 7in. by 5in. and I shrunk them way down to fit on the brochure, they looked the worse, whats the deal.The "employee" at Kinkos said I need to bump up my resolution to like 150ppi and switch to CMYK mode before I start my project.So basically I have to start over with everything? Or is there a different route I dont know of to get this thing to print?? Any help would be GREATLY appreciated.


p.s.-the Tahoe was a "request", and will NOT be on the final draft!!!:eek:

Well I'll tell you what I do when I print. I convert image to CMYK (this is a must) then make sure my document is 150 dpi. 150 DPI is usually the best resolution for printing and besides that anything over 150 will be discarded by the printer.

As for your text Photoshop is fine to print text with, Illustrator just allows you to resize it to any size without an pixelation later on if you wanted to make it bigger.


As for restarting the prject I dunno about that, I like to do that, but you can try bumping the resolution to 150. You can always convert an image to CMYK whenever you choose though.


Hope this helps

Originally posted by GSTRANCE
To future or anyone else who knows: I went to Kinkos to print out this attached image and it looked like ****.The document was done at 72ppi in RGB mode.Now heres my questions.Should I be doing all the text in Illustrator? Or would a higher document resolution help out, all the text looks pixelated as **** on the print, but in PS it looks fine.Also the pictures on the document were done in 72ppi RGB mode and they were like 7in. by 5in. and I shrunk them way down to fit on the brochure, they looked the worse, whats the deal.The "employee" at Kinkos said I need to bump up my resolution to like 150ppi and switch to CMYK mode before I start my project.So basically I have to start over with everything? Or is there a different route I dont know of to get this thing to print?? Any help would be GREATLY appreciated.


p.s.-the Tahoe was a "request", and will NOT be on the final draft!!!:eek:

Good idea, I was thinking someone should do that.

So this document was at 72ppi in RGB, how do I convert it to CMYK? What is DPI?

Originally posted by GSTRANCE
So this document was at 72ppi in RGB, how do I convert it to CMYK? What is DPI?

DPI = Dots per Inch (Used in printing indicates exactly what it says)

CMYK = Cyan, Magenta, Yellow, Key (Black)

TO convert Image to CMYK go to
Image - Mode - CMYK Color, you should see a slight change in the colors, nothing totally insane.

tight man,I appreciate it. So when i start new projects should I just go ahead and start them at 150ppi? and in RGB mode, then just convert them to CMYK? damn we need a chat room on this site!

Originally posted by GSTRANCE
tight man,I appreciate it. So when i start new projects should I just go ahead and start them at 150ppi? and in RGB mode, then just convert them to CMYK? damn we need a chat room on this site!

yes basically. =]

DPI not ppi :D

Originally posted by futuregs
DPI not ppi :D

Actually isn't it like Dots Per Inch , Pixels Per Inch? LOL

Originally posted by LeXusBoy


Actually isn't it like Dots Per Inch , Pixels Per Inch? LOL

I thought you were eating? :D

so let me get this straight, resolution=150 pixels/inch and that abbreviation is DPI=dots per inch, not PPI=pixels per inch?

Originally posted by GSTRANCE
so let me get this straight, resolution=150 pixels/inch and that abbreviation is DPI=dots per inch, not PPI=pixels per inch?

correcto.

Just another quick tip on this subject:
You might wanna design in RGB Mode because you can use more of the filters with that one. If you notice in CMYK a lot of the filters are not highlighted and you cant use them.
Then when your done convert to CMYK like FUTURE stated

yeah I was wondering what the deal was with that

Originally posted by GSTRANCE
yeah I was wondering what the deal was with that

yes create your work in RGB then convert to CMYK :)

thanks Future and Camsrx3 for the info, the prints look really good now that I changed some things around:)

Wow I am really LMAO....This has to be the most humor I have seen in awhile. You get a taste of what I do on a daily basis. Being a true Graphics Designer implys more to just know how to use a few tools in Photoshop. I cant believe some of these post. First I would like to know how resolution=150 pixels/inch. Shows your graphic design knowlegde is very limited.

You might want to stop using your pirated version of PS and just use microsoft paint. Just to educate to moderator AGAIN. Resolution is determined by the amount of Pixels Per (linear) Inch. There is no set value or number. So when you create a new document in PS you can use 1 to 96000 or higher. But then were talking major hard drive space for an image of 96000 ppi LOL(gigs and gigs).

Now whoever said that using over a resolution of 150 is a waste. Come close to the screen.............SMACK YOURSELF. Please get your Photoshop manuel out and read. Oh thats right you dont own it. Most printers of todays standards are much higher than 150 dpi. And if your going to kinkos then there Lasers printers are capable of higher dpi than 150. So you are just cheating yourself.

Now with your layout you have text, photographs and shapes set as the backgound. Now the reason all professional dont usually use PS for output is due to being a bitmap/pixel base application. You can use vector text and shapes in 6 & 7, but if you rasterize them you lose all the mathematical info. And its morphs to a square pixel shape/text :( . Thats why you use a vextor base prog instead of a raster base prog.

So if you plan on doing this professional. Get it done PROFESSIONAL. And dont take advice from people that dont know what they are talking about. Oh I have to go lmao.........So sad I couldnt help you further. Feel free to message me on my AIM messenger (markuscoolest).

PS: As industy standard:Web output - 72 ppi document size
Print output - 300 ppi document size
(can go upto 600+ ppi document size
for print output but you really dont
gain much extra detail or Resolution)
Mark
Graphic Designer
Desktop Publisher

Wow, I'm impressed, it was so nice of you to come in with your all knowing graphic design knowledge and dump on these guys :rolleyes: If you can't beat that maybe you should just not "help" anymore.

being that I AGAIN will be the mature one, I'm not gonna flame anything u just said, but I'm gonna say this....

A. If your gonna flame ME or anyone else, your not welcome here.
B. If your gonna be a smarta$$ by putting "I WOULDNT OWN ONE" for your "My Lexus:" then your also not welcome. And just to show my 19yr old immaturity I'm also gonna say this:
Maybe when you can afford one you can have that in your BIO. But until then stick with your 1993 Civic with 1.8 GSR Motorswap and bolt ons. And pray you don't pull up next to me at a stoplight cuz your 1.8 and my 4.0, hell need I say more.

There I'm finished gettin you off my chest.

GrafFX we don't care how much you know, your irritating attitude will get you BANNED from this board if you push your luck too far.

GrafFX, were you raised by a Catholic priest bub?

Your seem to be very knowledgable, that can be appreicated, but stop acting like you invented Microsoft Office and you forgot to copyright it and you are mad at the world because of your mistake.:rolleyes:

Here's a GrafFx(markuscoolest) Photoshop masterpiece from:

http://profiles.yahoo.com/markuskoolest

http://members.yahoo.com/interests?.oc=t&.kw=markuskoolest+&.sb=1

As we come to ASSUMPTION again.....Someone on the clubsi board had asked me to whip up something for them. I am so sorry for trying to help others. Thats the way we exchanged the image. Now without sounding like an EGOTISTICAL prick. I work with ONLY the print side of the industry. Thats were I choose to be. I am not interested with web design.

So I dont have a way to display work. Unless I scan(or cd-rom)something to show. I do more work in the DTP area. Which I use PS, ILL, ID, AE and a few Microsoft programs. I dont have a problem helping others. But I guess when I see something explained half backwards and wrong. I get alittle cocky. Now for my car haha. That isnt the issue here. Dont start a flame war.

I could careless if you are the president and drive a rolls royce. So please leave the cars(kids)lol out of it. How about this: I challenge anyone of you in a game of Photoshop Tennis fair and square. Any takers ? This would be a nice way to put the seal on the cap haha. So please message me on AIM markuscoolest. Or perhaps we can keep it here. Well whenever your ready let me know........

Mark
GD'er DTP'er

Originally posted by GrafFX
As we come to ASSUMPTION again.....Someone on the clubsi board had asked me to whip up something for them.

I haven't assumed anything. That's your work and it sucks.
I don't have to assume it sucks. It just does, empirically.

Like you...and your hondacar...and your attitude...and your lack
of substance. You're basically nothing but cheap-ass clownshoes.

You really did hurt my feelings :( . I must not be worthy. Whatever kid. I never once bagged on his work or anyones work here. You might want to pick up some comprehension and reading skills. I was correcting his reply. Thats not saying hes a good or bad photoshopper. Thats saying his knowledge of the print world is about as small as your IQ.

If you would like, I could explain alittle more about the print world. This isnt my own little theory I just came up with. This is standard numbers used. I might seem alittle cocky, but some of you do come acrossed as arrogant pricks. For what reason......a car....LMAO. Its a piece of steel, plastic and moving parts. To each his own !

P.S. To the one that made the clownshoe cut down. If you seem to be such a great judger of image. Why dont you take my challenge. You want to talk to talk I offer to walk to walk.......

Please stay on the subject to prevent this thread from becoming locked.

Thanks,

Ethan