Saddam Hussein and Osama bin Laden? We talk a lot about wars and occupations, but does anyone ever wonder what these two guys are up to? We aren't even sure if they are alive or dead, let alone their whereabouts. I think we were in a much better position to control and contain them when we knew where to find them and what they were doing, as opposed to now where, for all we know, they could be in bunked down in Chechnya building a nuclear bomb with a map of Washington DC on the wall. Before, these men had money, power, empires, and thus they had many assets to lose in taking any big risks. Now they have nothing to lose except for the title of champions of the anti-West cause. They can afford to take big risks! In fact, their *best* move right now would be to attack, endorse attacks, or sponsor attacks against us. They could be up to some very very naughty things as your read this. We've spend hundreds of billions of dollars to rid the world of terrorism. So far all we've done is get one foot stuck in Afghanistan and the other foot stuck in Iraq, with American taxpayers exclusively funding three national governments. The world has not been rid of any terrorist leader, we've taken down many lieutenants but the central ideologs are still at large, and now they both have a clear target to focus on.

Or they could be broke ass failures hiding out with their head in the sand. Possibly they have commited suicide from the fact that they were such failures and the guilt that comes with it. Neither of them were in the best of help, possible the stress of losing all that power they thought they could have helped them kick the bucket. Maybe they are managing the Dunkin Donuts around the corner.

Even better, maybe they are sipping a good chardonnay in beach houses on the French Riviera.

Our attention spans sure are short these days huh? We need to find these 2 because you are right about them having nothing to lose. A cornered animal is the most dangerous kind. Although neither of them likes to get their hands dirty, they sure do have enough pull to convince other people to take action against us.

The fact that we didn't get bin Laden was my only real objection to the war in Iraq. Felt like we were spreading ourselves a little too thin.

Plus Osama bin Laden was the target, the objective, the goal. Saddam Hussein was the target, the objective, the goal. These two men were the reasons why we spent hundreds of billions of dollars and tens of thousands of lives going to war. The goal wasn't Kabul or Baghdad. The goal wasn't to manage and fund two Middle Eastern nations indefinitely. We've lost site of the objective and they are still out there capable as ever of causing another 9/11.

High Tech Hunt For Saddam

TIKRIT, Iraq, Sept. 2, 2003

(CBS) Tikrit is the center of the hunt for Saddam Hussein and 15 other "most-wanted" Iraqis, all that remain of the original deck of 55.

That hunt is the mission of the most technologically advanced military unit in the world — the U.S. Army's 4th Infantry Division, reports CBS News Anchor Dan Rather.
It's the job of Colonel Don Campbell, chief of staff of the 4th Infantry Division, to survey the battlefield.
From his command and control center, Campbell can see every tank and humvee in his command on digital maps so accurate, CBS News had to blur the images before airing them on television, so as not to reveal the military's location.
"That's the First Battalion, 22nd Infantry. If you just click on that that's Charlie Company right there," Campbell says, pointing at the maps.
From these images beamed back from an unmanned aerial vehicle, Campbell can also see the enemy.
"Those are combat vehicles right there, those are people. That's the rooftop of a house so if I could identify five bad guys on top of the house I could shoot 'em," he says.
By "bad guys," Campbell means remaining Saddam henchmen like Chemical Ali, who was captured by the 4th Infantry Division last month with the help of the coordinated digital technology.
Literally billions of pieces of raw information are beamed into the command center—via aerial antennae —analyzed and then beamed back out to provide a precise picture of tactical operations to soldiers in the field.
The technology allows soldiers traveling in fighting vehicles to link to the command center using an array of aeriel antennae.
Using the same sort of antennae, a black hawk helicopter becomes a mobile command unit, or a Medivac chopper that can zoom right in on a wounded soldier.
On night patrol in Tikrit, soldiers in humvees can pinpoint exactly where troops are positioned.
Back at the command center, Colonel Campbell is confident that sooner or later they'll capture all the bad guys, including Saddam, the "Ace of Spades."
"He's moving every two hours and he's not staying set," says Campbell. "He has to. We're onto him. We're gonna get him."

HHmmm....About Osama....I believe he is still alive somewhere. The fact that he is rich, he could have done some plastic surgery on his face and be a "middle-east gentleman" living in a nice middle east community in France and planning for the next attact. However, I think he won't loose his accent when he speaks. Its kind of freaky, when I am thinking about that.

Originally posted by LS400Dom
HHmmm....About Osama....I believe he is still alive somewhere. The fact that he is rich, he could have done some plastic surgery on his face and be a "middle-east gentleman" living in a nice middle east community in France and planning for the next attact. However, I think he won't loose his accent when he speaks. Its kind of freaky, when I am thinking about that.

Your probably right.. I don't think he will get caught any time soon (if at all)..

Saddam on the other hand I think is dead already.. There is no HARD proof that he is alive.. We havn't seen anything that can been proven to be him since the war started. We have however captured his body guard to was always by his side.

But untill there is a body found, we will probably have a problem.

It's not likely that Saddam is dead. We've controlled Iraq for the last half year, turned over every last location that Saddam was likely to be at, his body would have turned up by now. The stench of a 6 month old corpse is pretty hard to miss. I think the search if Tikrit from your month-old article is pretty hopeless. There is no way Saddam would remain in Iraq. He left the first chance he got, and his sons were supposed to be his insiders to the country.

I would think that since you are so big on pumping money into social issues you would be happy that we liberated 2 countries and givin freedom to millions of people, regardless if we have caught saddam and osama yet!

Originally posted by Ebanks
I would think that since you are so big on pumping money into social issues you would be happy that we liberated 2 countries and givin freedom to millions of people, regardless if we have caught saddam and osama yet!

Yes, but take care of Americans first. Not bend over Americans and instead help out Afghanis and Iraqis. Is our role to govern other countries? No, it's to govern our own. Is the military's role to govern other sovereign countries? No it's to defend our borders.

Originally posted by lex400sc
Yes, but take care of Americans first. Not bend over Americans and instead help out Afghanis and Iraqis. Is our role to govern other countries? No, it's to govern our own. Is the military's role to govern other sovereign countries? No it's to defend our borders.


So its the fact that we are the richest country in the world and shouldn't help anyone else untill we are perfect here and everyone here is living WELL off of the richest people in society.... and I thought Liberals cared about people.. It must only be themselves and anyone who b*tches that they arn't being given everything for free..

"The most important thing is for us to find Osama bin Laden. It is our number one priority and we will not rest until we find him."

- George Bush 9/13/01

to

"I don't know where he is. I have no idea and I really don't care. It's not that important. It's not our priority."

- George Bush, 3/13/02

Originally posted by fvellani


"I don't know where he is. I have no idea and I really don't care. It's not that important. It's not our priority."

- George Bush, 3/13/02
I can't recall when he said that......remind me please

Originally posted by lex400sc
Yes, but take care of Americans first. Not bend over Americans and instead help out Afghanis and Iraqis. Is our role to govern other countries? No, it's to govern our own. Is the military's role to govern other sovereign countries? No it's to defend our borders.

What's the different between bending over Americans to help Mexican nationals and bending over Americans to help Iraqi nationals?

Originally posted by fvellani
"The most important thing is for us to find Osama bin Laden. It is our number one priority and we will not rest until we find him."

- George Bush 9/13/01

to

"I don't know where he is. I have no idea and I really don't care. It's not that important. It's not our priority."

- George Bush, 3/13/02


Interesting, Please post the link to where you pulled that information from. because if you got to:
This Link (http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/03/#)
it shows EVERYTHING the president released that day.. ALL DAY..

Didn't see anything with that statement or anything like that statement in it.
March 13, 2002
President Bush Holds Press Conference
View the President's Remarks
Listen to the President's Remarks
Statement by the Press Secretary
President Bush Announced Reuben Jeffery as Special Advisor for Lower Manhattan Development
Nominations
Remarks by the President at White House St. Patrick's Day Reception
View the President's Remarks
Listen to the President's Remarks
Remarks by the President in Shamrock Ceremony
View the President's Remarks
Listen to the President's Remarks
Nominations

Link (http://www.dailytidings.com/2003/news0227/022703n7.shtml)

It's about halfway down the page.