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Ok, now, If I were trying to hid a Suitcase nuke, or a 52 gallon drum of Anthrax, or a 5 gallon bucket of bubonic plague where would I do it...

If that second picture is an overhead shot of Baghdad alone, I wonder what Empty Desert looks like.


Now, if over 3 million people live in Baghdad alone, and there is around 1500 weapons inspectors, I wonder how long it would take for them to find WMD in the sand, the city, the homes, under beds, in rooms, in storage buildings, in vehicles, around cities, in bunkers, in hanger, in trucks, in labs, in apartments, in mosks, in peoples pockets, in peoples hands, in tunks, hmmmmmm lots of places to hide stuff and lots of room to do it.

Now figure this into the equation..

Look at each of those little dots on the second map.. Now image that a building in baghdad 1/50th the size of one of those dots could hold ALL the weapons inspectors. Now image that a building in THE ENTIRE COUNTRY OF IRAQ 1/1000 the size of one of those dots could hold ALL the WMD we feared he had. Now hide that building somewhere in the desert and see who find its first.. Remember, when hiding this building you are can burry it and dump it in a stream, or put it in anyones home.

Now imagine that the regime of Saddam has collapsed completely, 90% of his top ranking officials have been captured, the rest have been killed, and all the Iraq weapons scientists have been gathered up---seven months has elapsed---you have every person you could possibly have that would know anything about WMD in Iraq and none of these people have loyalties to a non-existent regime... End result: no one has offered any intel about Iraq having or producing WMD. Nothing to suggest there was a cache of illegal weapons, nothing to suggest there was an active weapons program, no detail on where they would be hidden, how they would be hidden, nothing.

In fact the only link the Bush Administration has to suggest WMD in Iraq, is testimony from Saddam dissidents, political refugees, etc. People that hate Saddam, of course, will try to bury him, just like Cuban refugees would love to bury Castro and would probably make up similar lies if they knew they could instigate a war between Cuba and the US.

Originally posted by lex400sc
Now imagine that the regime of Saddam has collapsed completely, 90% of his top ranking officials have been captured, the rest have been killed, and all the Iraq weapons scientists have been gathered up---seven months has elapsed---you have every person you could possibly have that would know anything about WMD in Iraq and none of these people have loyalties to a non-existent regime... End result: no one has offered any intel about Iraq having or producing WMD. Nothing to suggest there was a cache of illegal weapons, nothing to suggest there was an active weapons program, no detail on where they would be hidden, how they would be hidden, nothing.

In fact the only link the Bush Administration has to suggest WMD in Iraq, is testimony from Saddam dissidents, political refugees, etc. People that hate Saddam, of course, will try to bury him, just like Cuban refugees would love to bury Castro and would probably make up similar lies if they knew they could instigate a war between Cuba and the US.

Where do you come up with this information..

You are 100% sure than they have "every person you could possibly have that would know anything about WMD in Iraq" and "none of these people have loyalties to a non-existent regime"... wow you should be given a metal for all insider info you have...

I recall a certain someone that claimed to have proof of WMD and also stated that they knew how much/many and where these items were located.

I remember claims of spy shots of a convoy of trucks moving weapons

At this rate they'll have to bring in their own 'finds' ;)

Originally posted by Emerald


At this rate they'll have to bring in their own 'finds' ;)

Frankly, I'm surprised that they haven't done that yet.

Originally posted by fvellani
Frankly, I'm surprised that they haven't done that yet.

Me too. I really expected that Bush would plant WMD in Iraq by now. I still would put him above it either.

Originally posted by lex400sc
Me too. I really expected that Bush would plant WMD in Iraq by now. I still would put him above it either.

and, of course, I'm sure if they do happen to find WMD now (no matter how blantent the evidence is) you will say the Bush Admin planted them...

I, on the other hand, would be skeptical unless they could provide solid proof.

He will.....

Right before the next election

Originally posted by SCLexus3.0
and, of course, I'm sure if they do happen to find WMD now (no matter how blantent the evidence is) you will say the Bush Admin planted them...

I, on the other hand, would be skeptical unless they could provide solid proof.

I love how this guy speaks for me every time! Why do I even need to post here?? SCLexus3.0 has already made up my mind for me! I may as well give him my screen name and password and never come back to CL!!

In chronological order:

G-Dub said.....

"Right now, Iraq is expanding and improving facilities that were used for the production of biological weapons."

United Nations Address
September 12, 2002

"Iraq has stockpiled biological and chemical weapons, and is rebuilding the facilities used to make more of those weapons."

"We have sources that tell us that Saddam Hussein recently authorized Iraqi field commanders to use chemical weapons -- the very weapons the dictator tells us he does not have."

Radio Address
October 5, 2002

"The Iraqi regime . . . possesses and produces chemical and biological weapons. It is seeking nuclear weapons."

"We know that the regime has produced thousands of tons of chemical agents, including mustard gas, sarin nerve gas, VX nerve gas."

"We've also discovered through intelligence that Iraq has a growing fleet of manned and unmanned aerial vehicles that could be used to disperse chemical or biological weapons across broad areas. We're concerned that Iraq is exploring ways of using these UAVS for missions targeting the United States."

"The evidence indicates that Iraq is reconstituting its nuclear weapons program. Saddam Hussein has held numerous meetings with Iraqi nuclear scientists, a group he calls his "nuclear mujahideen" - his nuclear holy warriors. Satellite photographs reveal that Iraq is rebuilding facilities at sites that have been part of its nuclear program in the past. Iraq has attempted to purchase high-strength aluminum tubes and other equipment needed for gas centrifuges, which are used to enrich uranium for nuclear weapons."

Cincinnati, Ohio Speech
October 7, 2002

"Our intelligence officials estimate that Saddam Hussein had the materials to produce as much as 500 tons of sarin, mustard and VX nerve agent."

State of the Union Address
January 28, 2003

"Intelligence gathered by this and other governments leaves no doubt that the Iraq regime continues to possess and conceal some of the most lethal weapons ever devised."

Address to the Nation
March 17, 2003


I have no doubt we're going to find big stores of weapons of mass destruction. -- Defense Policy Board member Kenneth Adelman March 23, 2003

U.S. officials never expected that "we were going to open garages and find" weapons of mass destruction. -- Condoleeza Rice May 12, 2003

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