Do any of you guys wear necklaces such as the ones sold by Abercrombie and Fitch? Heres one I like..

Thanks

I like A&F, but a necklace from A&F?
I dunno, man. I just don't like the fact that there are million other boys wearing the same stuff around their neck.
I'd rather find a small shop where they make their own designs.

Not to be offensive or anything but that necklace looks like a string with some plastic keys on it... and it probably cost around 5 dollars? I just dont get why people would actually bye those kinda of things. Also like pre-ripped torn dirtied caps... why cant you just bye any ole cap and just dragged it on the back of your lexus for a couple days and wear it... same goes for the other pre-ripped clothing... Im just curious yet confused... :D

Originally posted by LexAristo
Do any of you guys wear necklaces such as the ones sold by Abercrombie and Fitch? Heres one I like..

Thanks :egads: lol...

maybe the actual necklace is inside the box protected by 3 different locks w/keys :D

naah, no need for that. just wasted money that could have gone into the car :p

I'm not a necklace kind of person.
Put it in the car is what i would do, LOL.

Why o why o why would you even consider buying that? :banghead:

Have you seen the movie Zoolander? Remember the Mugato "clothing" line that was based on the homeless? Well, slapping some fake keys on a piece of leather is not too far off man. I would think twice about buying that...just my 2 cents.

hmmm...i have some old keys and an old shoelace laying around.

Yeah, I'm not much for paying $15 for a leather string with keys made from material that will turn my neck green.

But, to each his own!

Originally posted by LexAristo
Do any of you guys wear necklaces such as the ones sold by Abercrombie and Fitch? Heres one I like..

Thanks

again, all I have to say is lol.... :p Double :egads::egads: no triple it :egads: :egads: :egads:

I went to Destin FL and wore a designer necklace for the first and last time. I bought it from Buckle. It had the white chipped stones on tan leather. I believe that was '94 or so. Since then if i wear a necklace it's gold and with a golf polo when i do social events.

NO NO NO - I don't wear necklaces and I HATE that people keep supporting A&F. Their clothes are cool I admit, and their catalogs are hot but they do too much dumb stuff in my opinion. Not race friendly. Never any AfrAm's in their catalogs and their T-Shirt: "2 Wong's dont make it White". With an Asian man drawn with buckteeth, slanted eyes, and Chopsticks!! C'Mon people, read between the lines. That;s like wearing a t-shirt that has a black face, big round white eyes , and red lips. NO A&F. NO A&F.NO A&F.

Okay, now that I got that off my chest, my neighbor wears this HOT baby-pink velour A&F lowriding hip-hugger sweatsuit with no bra and no thong - That scene alone makes me want to reconsider.

[DON'T TRY AND GET AROUND THE SPELL EDITOR PLEASE]

Originally posted by kRonX
why cant you just bye any ole cap and just dragged it on the back of your lexus for a couple days and wear it... same goes for the other pre-ripped clothing... Im just curious yet confused... :D

No offense but....................Well Put!! When my jeans look dirty, I'm imbarassed:egads:

I wore necklaces when they matched my overall style. When I had dreadlocks, I wore silver hoops, leather bracelets and necklaces. Now I'm more Sporty/GQ/HipHop and cut off the locks 10 years ago. Basically what I am saying is , it depends on your style.

Originally posted by Darius2004
Okay, now that I got that off my chest, my neighbor wears this HOT baby-pink velour A&F lowriding hip-hugger sweatsuit with no bra and no thong - That scene alone makes me want to reconsider.

ROFL that is funny crap... I like the ladies who ware A&F because in most cases they are hot, but just not my type of women... I don't mind looking tho :) I personally have never owned A&F and prob never will... As far as a necklace I am a gold wearer... I have a gold rope I ware all the time... Hell I don't think I have taken it off in a few yrs now... But as Darius2004 stated its all on the "style" you are after...

Shawn

Originally posted by Earl!
Remember the Mugato "clothing" line that was based on the homeless? Well, slapping some fake keys on a piece of leather is not too far off man.

FFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUNNNNNNNNNNYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!

I would wear that necklace.... IF I WAS A COMPLETE TOOL.... but I'm not, so I would never wear that necklace... I'll admit that I have a few abercrombie shirts, but they were on sale, they don't say abercrombie and fitch anywhere on them... and I look really hott in them :D ... Or so I hear...
As for necklaces, I like gold... I have a nice gold chain and bracelet that I wear sometimes. I usually wear a silver chain though. Bling Bling....

Oh... No offence to anyone who actually likes that necklace... or to anyone who wears ABERCROMBIE AND FITCH in big letters across their chest...

OH no...you have to go with white gold / diamonds these days!!!! (i have a few pieces)...:p

Hi CL, Just wanted to add a few excerpts to support my commentrs on A&F:

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In late April, the company again inspired protests and boycotts over a T-shirt line featuring Asian cartoons with slanted eyes and coolie hats.

Protesters called the company racist for the shirts, one of which said: "Wong Brothers Laundry Service - Two Wongs Can Make it White."

Carney said the T-shirts were intended to be teasing and fun, but the company pulled the Asian-themed line in response to the complaints.

Because of the company's repeated media exposure, some experts believe Abercrombie is following the advertising theory that any publicity - good or bad - is positive.

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SAN FRANCISCO -- A new line of T-shirts depicting stereotypes of Asians has triggered an e-mail and phone campaign to boycott clothier Abercrombie & Fitch.

One of the Ohio-based company's T-shirts reads "Wong Brothers Laundry Service -- Two Wongs Can Make It White" and shows two smiling men with slanted eyes wearing conical hats.

Abercrombie said the shirts were supposed to be funny and cater to Asian customers. The company said it will pull the shirts from the company's 311 stores in 50 states.

"We personally thought Asians would love this T-shirt," said Hampton Carney, a spokesman for the company.
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Wait, I have a good idea. How about if you hang your Lexus spare key on the necklace?

Should I hang the honda emblem I "found" on a chain and wear it around proudly?? :D :D

Originally posted by LexAristo
Do any of you guys wear necklaces such as the ones sold by Abercrombie and Fitch? Heres one I like..

Thanks

Forget the necklace and buy some springs to go with the new tires! ;) ;) ;)

I wouldn`t buy it becasue it is not my style, but if you like it...sport it man. About the comment about everyone else wearing the same clothes it is true. I swear at least once every week I see someone else that has the exact same thing as me. One good thing about A&F is that they are on of the few clothing companies I can think of that hold their value. I sold some a&f khakis on ebay that I didn`t want anymore, they were all ripped and stained and someone still bought them for like 25$ Let's see that happen with clothes from most other places.

Originally posted by boredguy77
I sold some a&f khakis on ebay that I didn`t want anymore, they were all ripped and stained and someone still bought them for like 25$

Haha, that's funny, cause some people will buy jeans from abercrombie for, what, like $60, that are ripped and stained...

Originally posted by The_Hitman
Haha, that's funny, cause some people will buy jeans from abercrombie for, what, like $60, that are ripped and stained...

I could never understand that.... WHY ??? Just go get some from the thrift store for like 2.00 or 3.00 dollars that have been worn in over time and would look the same, you may need to add the rips / tears your self but you would save over 50.00 dollars LOL...

Shawn

Originally posted by The_Hitman
Haha, that's funny, cause some people will buy jeans from abercrombie for, what, like $60, that are ripped and stained...

Yeah, I would never buy those jeans lol. I'd prefer GAP 1969 or something :thumbup:


BTW, how is Life in Lawrence, Jeremy? get more CL member overthere? :)

Lawrence is nice. I met a guy up the street from me with a pretty nice SC400, he's got it on fairly nice 20's.. Nothing like other SC's on here though.

you guys seem to have my same feelings in regards to the "hip" clothes a&f sells. On uk's campus you would get the feeling that everyone shops there...seriously. I bet there is 5/10 people wear outfits made by a&f. They have them for every day of the week. I got a hooded sweatshirt given to me, and a pair of jeans. But some people shop there like its necessary for survival.

Originally posted by kRonX
Not to be offensive or anything but that necklace looks like a string with some plastic keys on it... and it probably cost around 5 dollars? I just dont get why people would actually bye those kinda of things. Also like pre-ripped torn dirtied caps... why cant you just bye any ole cap and just dragged it on the back of your lexus for a couple days and wear it... same goes for the other pre-ripped clothing... Im just curious yet confused... :D

$5? Probably more like $15-20:rolleyes:

Originally posted by Darius2004
Hi CL, Just wanted to add a few excerpts to support my commentrs on A&F:

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In late April, the company again inspired protests and boycotts over a T-shirt line featuring Asian cartoons with slanted eyes and coolie hats.

Protesters called the company racist for the shirts, one of which said: "Wong Brothers Laundry Service - Two Wongs Can Make it White."

Carney said the T-shirts were intended to be teasing and fun, but the company pulled the Asian-themed line in response to the complaints.

Because of the company's repeated media exposure, some experts believe Abercrombie is following the advertising theory that any publicity - good or bad - is positive.

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SAN FRANCISCO -- A new line of T-shirts depicting stereotypes of Asians has triggered an e-mail and phone campaign to boycott clothier Abercrombie & Fitch.

One of the Ohio-based company's T-shirts reads "Wong Brothers Laundry Service -- Two Wongs Can Make It White" and shows two smiling men with slanted eyes wearing conical hats.

Abercrombie said the shirts were supposed to be funny and cater to Asian customers. The company said it will pull the shirts from the company's 311 stores in 50 states.

"We personally thought Asians would love this T-shirt," said Hampton Carney, a spokesman for the company.
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My last name is Wong, but I am not offended. I was born in the US and I have grew accustomed to this modern day culture of comedy and satire. I do understand why other "Wong's" as well as Asians would be offended... I don't have A&F clothes yet... hehe

Thanx Aristo - Now that I am hearing from Asians that it wasn't offensive, I'll try not to be so militant about it :D

...but I still think America as a whole, promotes the thought that if it isn't American, it's just not as great. And T-Shirts like the forementioned pound that thought into the subconcious.

Didn't mean to get deep:p

Originally posted by Darius2004
Thanx Aristo - Now that I am hearing from Asians that it wasn't offensive, I'll try not to be so militant about it :D

...but I still think America as a whole, promotes the thought that if it isn't American, it's just not as great. And T-Shirts like the forementioned pound that thought into the subconcious.

Didn't mean to get deep:p

It is okay with me because I am Americanized. heheh

Cheers!!:thumbup:

Update requested Bryan, did you ever buy it? :confused:

Originally posted by Lord of the Celsiors
Update requested Bryan, did you ever buy it? :confused:

Nope, I did not buy that one.

holy crap

i didnt realize how old this was

congrats on the purchase :p

johnny

yeah old thread, but I'd just like to add:

Abercrombie & Fitch is a racist company,
they got sued and settled out of court only 6 months ago.

If you applied for a job there and weren't white, you were sent to work in the back room and out of sight.
at one store in San Fran, and AF exec came in and said there WASN'T enough whiteb faces in the showroom, and the very next day all the NON-white employees were shifted off the showroom floor to stock duties on night time inventory duties!



AND by the way LexAristo, just because you weren't offended doesn't mean other Asians weren't!

:egads:

You think AF would ever make a T-shirt with a deragatory picture of say a Jewish person??
Hell no! they'd be sued the very next day!!
or how bout an African American, maybe an Uncle tom's T-shirt, or a deragatory picture showing nappy hair and exagerated features??? HELL NO!

If manking fun of other races is a NO NO , why do you think it's "OK" when it's directed at Asians????
You've been brainwashed by Madison AVe and the Media.

Check out the book "The Bluest Eye"
it was on Ophra too. It details how growin up in American you and be subconsiencely "programed" by TV movies, advertising into beliveing what beauty is, and growing up all the beautiful people had blond hair and blue eyes.

BTW: up unttil AF got sued there were NO minorities in any AF portiraits that hang in the AF store windows. Now at least they have a TOKEN African American

That alone I find offensive, what year is it, 1935?
(tough I have been refused service at a resturant in the 80's)


ok Getting back to the original post.
if you want a necklace like that, I'd sell you one made of string and macoroni
hell I'll even put out a Group Buy just for you guys!:D :D :p

Originally posted by LexAristo
Do any of you guys wear necklaces such as the ones sold by Abercrombie and Fitch? Heres one I like..

Thanks Nope. A&F will NEVER get a cent out of my pockets. :thumbdn: for A&F BS racist crapola...I don't even want to get started on them :mad:

Originally posted by ImportFAN
Sorry I don't wear little boy, preppy, cheap, do what every one else does, crap.

I wear preasous metals or rare watches....or when I couldn't affored Platinum, I wore gold, and when I couldn't afford gold I didn't wear anything!

That looks like it was made from garbage! :eek2: :eek2: :eek2: Daaaaaaaaannnnnnnnnggggggg! - That was mean.

Lex: Wear what you like.

Originally posted by kmn5
yeah old thread, but I'd just like to add:

Abercrombie & Fitch is a racist company,
they got sued and settled out of court only 6 months ago.

If you applied for a job there and weren't white, you were sent to work in the back room and out of sight.
at one store in San Fran, and AF exec came in and said there WASN'T enough whiteb faces in the showroom, and the very next day all the NON-white employees were shifted off the showroom floor to stock duties on night time inventory duties!.......You think AF would ever make a T-shirt with a deragatory picture of say a Jewish person??
Hell no! they'd be sued the very next day!!
or how bout an African American, maybe an Uncle tom's T-shirt, or a deragatory picture showing nappy hair and exagerated features??? HELL NO!
I'm glad someone saw/ heard this about A&F. Thanks for supporting my Anti-A&F beliefs.
Originally posted by kmn5
If manking fun of other races is a NO NO , why do you think it's "OK" when it's directed at Asians????
You've been brainwashed by Madison AVe and the Media.

Check out the book "The Bluest Eye"
it was on Ophra too. It details how growin up in American you and be subconsiencely "programed" by TV movies, advertising into beliveing what beauty is, and growing up all the beautiful people had blond hair and blue eyes.Thanks for the referral. I've been saying this for years! AND there are so many cartoons with racists inuendos & scenarios - posiening children's thoughts and they don't even know it. I've been saying this for YEARS - thanks for the book referral. I just bought it from Amazon.com (http://www.amazon.com/gp/reader/0375411550/ref=sib_dp_pt/103-8768376-9895042#reader-page)

Originally posted by kmn5
BTW: up unttil AF got sued there were NO minorities in any AF portiraits that hang in the AF store windows. Now at least they have a TOKEN African American
Every company has at least ONE. :( Why does it have to be a marketing tool? How many people actually work in Management for the company? :( :(

And another thing, A&F can "get deez N-U-Teez" as my man Snoop says...matter of fact, they can get 'em 2 times! a double dip!

I don't own a single piece of clothing from A&F, American Eagle, GAP, etc. I shop at JCPenny and buy Levis, Polo, and various other brands. I don't like spending a lot on clothes. And now that I'm in college, I don't shop at the places I mentioned simply because EVERY SINGLE PERSON I SEE shops there and is dressed head-to-foot in that crap.

I don't want to be another trendy white tool. :thumbdn:

No offense to those of you who do shop at A&F, AE, GAP, et. al.

Originally posted by kmn5
yeah old thread, but I'd just like to add:

Abercrombie & Fitch is a racist company,
they got sued and settled out of court only 6 months ago.

If you applied for a job there and weren't white, you were sent to work in the back room and out of sight.
at one store in San Fran, and AF exec came in and said there WASN'T enough whiteb faces in the showroom, and the very next day all the NON-white employees were shifted off the showroom floor to stock duties on night time inventory duties!



AND by the way LexAristo, just because you weren't offended doesn't mean other Asians weren't!

:egads:

You think AF would ever make a T-shirt with a deragatory picture of say a Jewish person??
Hell no! they'd be sued the very next day!!
or how bout an African American, maybe an Uncle tom's T-shirt, or a deragatory picture showing nappy hair and exagerated features??? HELL NO!

If manking fun of other races is a NO NO , why do you think it's "OK" when it's directed at Asians????
You've been brainwashed by Madison AVe and the Media.

Check out the book "The Bluest Eye"
it was on Ophra too. It details how growin up in American you and be subconsiencely "programed" by TV movies, advertising into beliveing what beauty is, and growing up all the beautiful people had blond hair and blue eyes.

BTW: up unttil AF got sued there were NO minorities in any AF portiraits that hang in the AF store windows. Now at least they have a TOKEN African American

That alone I find offensive, what year is it, 1935?
(tough I have been refused service at a resturant in the 80's)


ok Getting back to the original post.
if you want a necklace like that, I'd sell you one made of string and macoroni
hell I'll even put out a Group Buy just for you guys!:D :D :p

Wow I had no idea. Never stepped foot inside an AF, I never felt welcome:D
FUBU!!!!!

Originally posted by 1SICKLEX
Wow I had no idea. Never stepped foot inside an AF, I never felt welcome:D
FUBU!!!!!

Doesn't FUBU stand for "FOR US BY US"?

Originally posted by LexAristo
Doesn't FUBU stand for "FOR US BY US"?
:egads: Pretty sure 1SICK didn't mean the clothing line when he said it. FUBU also stands for F'ed Up Beyond Understanding.

Originally posted by Earl!
Why o why o why would you even consider buying that? :banghead:

Have you seen the movie Zoolander? Remember the Mugato "clothing" line that was based on the homeless? Well, slapping some fake keys on a piece of leather is not too far off man. I would think twice about buying that...just my 2 cents.

That IS SO TRUE!

stupid kids fromt he burbs dunno what real fashion is, they'll let advertising tell them what is hip n cool

Originally posted by ImportFAN


That looks like it was made from garbage!


thats SO true, a peice of string and some keys????
come on, I wouldn't even put that on my cat

Funny thing my search on yahoo with the key works Abercrombie and Fitch racism, turned up 5,690 entries

http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=Abercrombie+and+Fitch+racism&ei=UTF-8&fr=FP-tab-web-t&cop=mss&tab=

http://www.afjustice.com/ (MUST read,)

http://www.boycott-af.com/

http://www.geocities.com/tarorg/boycottinfo.html

etc......

if you don't find it offensive, your not Americanized, your brain-washed :egads:

I remember when my RA freshman year worked for abercrombie.. he's the typical type btw.. anyway, he brought back a catalogue for us to look at.. their big quartelry one or whatever.. It was ridiculous.. all the models were white skin, blue eyes, blonde hair.. Uh didnt we get rid of hitler? Because this looked like his master race in this catalogue :thumbdn: :thumbdn:

Just to set the record straight, I did not buy that necklace!:D

Originally posted by LexAristo
Doesn't FUBU stand for "FOR US BY US"? Yes, but they changed it to For U By U. as in clothing styles for the people, designed by the people that wear it. Guess they saw that they were discriminating.

Originally posted by kmn5
http://www.afjustice.com/ (MUST read,)

http://www.boycott-af.com/ I signed up @ Boycott-AF.com over a year 1/2 ago!


Another Racist Shirt

This shirt was sited at A&F about a month prior to the release of the infamous racist shirts, it was still being sold despite the recall.

http://www.geocities.com/tarorg/lihongzhang.jpg


Characters read Li Hong Zhang (Ly Hong Chuong). A Chinese official from the 1800s during Europe's invasion of China. He was forced by Europeans to sign treaties giving Chinese land over to European nations. He is considered by many to be a symbol of China's Century of Humiliation as a result of foreign invasion.

A&F claims no intention of racism with the marketing of their Asian themed shirts. This shirt proves otherwise. Clearly research has been done on Asian history to find this man's name. Humor to A&F is specifically finding information to remember Asian's colonized past.

An apology has been made with the other Asian shirts. But what does the apology mean when this shirt still displays on shelves one month after other Asian shirts have supposedly been removed?



Thanks for the AFJustice.com link.

thanks for the info Darius2004

Damn! they actually researched before being racist!

How would Americans like it if people in China wore T-shirts that said "Benidict Arnold is #1"
or how bout references to segergation in america???
Or better yet how bout references to slavery in America???

I doubt that would go over very well:mad:


BTW: I have never bought or will ever buy anything from AF!!!!!
tough I was in the store once to return a gift soemone got me from AF
(I was pretty displaced when I opened it!)
They asked me if I wanted to exchange it for something else in the store,
I said hell no! n got the money back


racism is nothing new, and I've come to expect it :mad:

but what really pisses me off is when I see all these stupid Asians wearing that crap!!!!



Might as well wear a sign that says I donate to the KKK

Contrary to the sterotype, THERE ARE SOME REAL STUPID ASIANS OUT THERE!!!! case in point

Well, in that case I guess I'm a stupid asian and so are a couple of my friends. I could care less about all this crap -- I like the stuff, and I feel good in it. What's wrong with that? One of my good buddies used to be a manager at A&F and he's Asian as well.

Another thing I should note is that I live in Alabama, where Asian's definately do not make up the majority of the population. I find it lucky that I am one of the few over here that actually "fits in" -- 99% of my friends are white. It's this kind of crap and media attention that does nothing more than single out Asians.

If I want to wear it, I will -- I don't need any people telling me what I can and can't do.

99% of my friends are white
What does that have to do with anything?
I have White friends, AND I HAVE SEEN WHITE AND BLACK PEOPLE STANDING NEXT TO ASIANS PROTESTING against A&F
If other White people can see a problem then do you think the rest of the Asians are imagining it??


Originally posted by brendanlim
It's this kind of crap and media attention that does nothing more than single out Asians.



You know there's a difference between people laughing at you then laughing with you

Do you think being complacent and docile allows you to "fit in"?

Why is it bad if Asians point out a problem?
Should we all be quiet and "pretend" it doesn't exist? that won't make it go away.

I wonder if Rosa Parks though it might be bad and give balcks bad media attention by not giving up her seat to a white man?

If you don't fight for your rights, NO one is gonna do it for you! And certianly it will never be handed to you on silver platter.

It's absolutly bizzare how you think fighting for your rights and or dignity will single out Asians in a bad way.
You think that by being a "model" katowing minority and not rocking the boat, people won't discriminate against you? Then your living in a dream world :egads:
Do you want to blend in so bad, your willing to ingore insults and pretend it's funny to you too?

you think the NAACP is drawing bad attention to Blacks?

You know how many Jewish civil right groups there are? Are they drawing bad attention to Jews???
Hell no they're out every single time they precieve something even slightly anti-semetic. Even to the point of over doing it, but it gets them results.

You think Asians should only be seen and not heard?
HA HA HA HA HA


And if you think I might be "UN-American"
FYI, My grand father fought in WW2.
YES in the American ARMY! in the European threatre
but he was only allowed to cook and do laundry (because it was though that chinese men didn't have the ability to master a rifle or other firearm) My grandfather had kept an article clipped from a newspaper iriterating that fact
Funny thing China just got 3 gold medals for shooting
http://sports.yahoo.com/oly/shooting/medals

And my great grandfather was in the US with his Uncle in the 1860's
running a shipping company.
But were forced to leave the USA and give up their business due to the CHINESE EXCLUSION ACT of 1882

btw Asian people couldn't legally own land until In 1952, when the Alien Land Law of 1913 was overturned.

I'm not saying what you can or can not wear.
but to wear such clothing from a company like that is just an insult to all those that have come before you and lost so much.

If you like being a lapdog so be it.
I on the other hand will rock the boat when ever I see any injustice or discrimination (Wether it be against Asians, Blacks, whatever)

Originally posted by kmn5
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Funny thing China just got 3 gold medals for shooting
http://sports.yahoo.com/oly/shooting/medals



Um, for shooting air rifles/pistols. (Should have told my kid brother that BB gun shooting was an olympic sport.)

Originally posted by TeeDub
Um, for shooting air rifles/pistols. (Should have told my kid brother that BB gun shooting was an olympic sport.)

Can we say "Hater?" :thumbdn:

Do you have any idea how much skill that takes? Men's 10M air rifle is amazing to watch...They have to hit a target the size of the period at the end of this sentence.

Much props to those Chinese competitors. :thumbup:

Originally posted by ImportFAN
I'm sick of people complaining about white adds when all black adds for fubutt, or Sean P*ssy, Phat F*k, etc are all one race. Careful.... :nono:

Originally posted by brendanlim
I find it lucky that I am one of the few over here that actually "fits in" -- 99% of my friends are white. Brendan, this isn't necessarily a good thing. There's nothing wrong with fitting in or having friends of another race don't get me wrong. But don't let it brainwash you. Think deeper than that and see the hidden meaning behind all of this.

ImportFan, what can I say. You have underlying issues it seems. I can sense the hate coming from you. See, what you may not know is that most of, if not all, those companies you named have white individuals in prominent positions within management. A&F and other comanies like it don't have people of ethnic descent in positions of power. The highest position a person of color (and only Asians in fact because A&F will not hire blacks) can actually expect to rise to within A&F is store manager. Wow, such a lofty title.

My position is I won't be standing in front of their store with a picket-sign, I'll let my money speak for me and shop elsewhere instead. And anyone who shops at A&F and wears that stuff around me can expect to get an earful, and often.

(and no, I don't wear FUBU...)

oh my..off to the debate forum this goes I beleev. I will NOT ever buy anything abercrombie and fitch...being that I am a man of color I find it a completely offensive company. And it should be illegal for a company to be all white ( importfan) because there is no reason for discrimination. its not a problem IMO to aim all your clothes at white people but THERE is something wrong with poking fun at other races in the process...those shirts are NO Mistake. it is wrong to limit someones employment opportunities. and its not a good thing to blend in to a degree to where your own identity no longer exists. No problem with having mostly white freinds i think as long as you maintain your own identity strongly .And showing apathy towards what A&F does only perpetuates this institutionalized racism.

Yeah - A&F stuff never appealed to me ... umm, I don't know who started the pre-fading and pre-destroying clothes but that's just as trashy as wearing pajamas, to me. I see people around school wearing both and I hope they all fail miserably in life - we don't need any more trendy a-hole slackers (or trashy, lazy a-hole slackers) to succeed. Aparently they don't understand the opportunity they have and ought to be further cultivating to ensure their success in the future (an opportunity that many people never got and never will get).

Anyway - regarding segregation in business ... I don't buy it and I think A&F is setting a very poor example (not that anyone necessarily ought to aspire towards A&F'dom) for the industry. As was noted earlier - FUBU realized that perhaps its acronym was discriminatory and so it was changed - I don't like the clothes - but I respect that decision. I agree with Mikeloc about the passive boycott (if you will).

However, to me, it seems that all of America has gone race-whacky for some reason.

For instance, a while back I remember there was a frat (I forget if this was national or local) that wanted to turn exclusively black. I'm not sure if they did or not - but it's this type of de-facto segregationist thinking (on every racial side) that's keeping America from realizing its true potential. It's important to note here that most (if not all) frats and sororities are 100% segregated at the school that I attend - both black and white. I have no clue why this is the case ... I thought about joining a traditionally black fraternity - but it would cost too much.

My point is this - we've got a lot of bright folks out there hitting the glass ceiling guys ... it's easy to forget now, as racial discrimination just BEGINS to fade into history, that it STILL happens.

I, being handicapped, can say that I encounter various but widely-held stereotypes quite a bit. It's a terrific feeling to shatter someone's perception of an entire group of people - but one must be given a chance to do that. I'm all about individual responsibility - but if one is not allowed to prove himself capable - where does that leave him?

Be fair - be honest - be understanding - and be open.

M.

You all have good points, but lets please keep this convo respectful of others in the process of giving them.
Thanks!
Tim

Originally posted by nk1983
No problem with having mostly white freinds i think as long as you maintain your own identity strongly.

It's not because I CHOOSE to have only a majority white friends -- it's because down here Asians make up about 5% of the population I believe. I've got friends of all different races but I hope you guys see what I mean.

Brenden - Check your PM.

There are SO many great points here.... Like someone said (I forgot who already:egads: ), I agree, it is okay for a company to taylor to a specific ethnic group but to segregate or limit someones employment opportunities because of the Principle/President/CEO's racist beliefs -- THAT should be illegal.

I don't wear FUBU only because they don't make anything I like. Same With Sean John. But I DO respect that these men came from nothing (like many Asian imigrants) to building the largest clothing empires on the planet. As far as Phat Farm - You can't deny that Russell Simmons makes some of the HOTTEST, HIGH QUALITY clothes Hip Hop has EVER seen.

I plan on rockin' a pink and grey argyle as soon as fall hits! As far as Russell's taste and discrimination: Anyone who thinks RS or his clothing line is racist or low quality - look at his wife:

http://www.babyphat.com/style_images/styleimage.jpg


Originally posted by mikeloc24
.................There's nothing wrong with fitting in or having friends of another race don't get me wrong. But don't let it brainwash you.

..............My position is I won't be standing in front of their store with a picket-sign, I'll let my money speak for me and shop elsewhere instead. And anyone who shops at A&F and wears that stuff around me can expect to get an earful, and often.

(and no, I don't wear FUBU...)
Well said Mike!

Originally posted by TeeDub
Um, for shooting air rifles/pistols. (Should have told my kid brother that BB gun shooting was an olympic sport.)


It's not the round that makes the shooter good, it's their own skill,
Just cause the Olympic dectates the use of air rifles, doesn't mean they can't pick up a real rifle and snipe you from that range.

When I was in ROTC the rifle range was set up with targets that are 6" in diameter.
the olympic ones are crazy small

Anyways my point is that, my grandfather (technically my godfather, but I just called him grandfather)
wasn't allowed to use a weapon in WWII he was only regulated to menial tasks, because of racism.
They actually thought that a Chinese person was unable to use a gun!

Originally posted by ImportFAN
Your missing the point though...

For one the GOVERNMENT should NEVER interfer with private buisness. And this country was built on these ideas and ideals.

And BASIC economics....If I the store owner hires everyone that is white instead not hiring the BEST MAN FOR THE JOB then by default after a long enough period of time I will go out of buisness/lose to compatision who has lots of diversitiy, etc....maybe A&F thinks whites are the best man for the job or best represents there company, nothing wrong with having pride in your race.....but of course as soon as some one has pride for the white race then they are an idiot and raciest. Yes, the government SHOULD interfere with private business if there's a need. Look at Enron. Was there a need for the government to get involved there? YES!

And actually this country was built on genocide against the Native Americans, slave labor, and the sweat and labor of countless other "minorities." Our political ancestors even had the nerve to try to force Africans to slaughter Native Americans. Please don't try to make this country's beginnings out to be nobler than they truly were. The original settlers were nothing more than pirates.

As for your economic argument, it's true that a store owner can hire whoever he/she wants. But never assume that if they're not hiring the best people for the job that the business will eventually fail. That's just wishful thinking. There's a large enough demand on their product by caucasians alone to keep them in business, obviously. Your comments are spinning out of control now. No one ever said that if you have pride in being white that it was a bad thing. The problem is you don't know how to have pride without insulting another race. You could have made your comments without insulting those Af-American clothing labels you mentioned. Your attempts to degrade them only made YOU look bad and your arguments sound weak.

themagentatroll would like to know if people would have a problem with this if a business were not involved. What if I got together with a group of friends and we all got together to have a screenprinter make us some shirts proclaiming, "Asians make cute pets" and wore them around as part of the regular wardrobe rotation? What if some people saw these and liked them and wanted to have one for themselves? What if we charged a small premium over our production costs? What if the trend caught on and there were soon thousands of these shirts on random folks around the country? Please give themagentatroll your thoughts.

Originally posted by themagenta
themagentatroll would like to know if people would have a problem with this if a business were not involved. What if I got together with a group of friends and we all got together to have a screenprinter make us some shirts proclaiming, "Asians make cute pets" and wore them around as part of the regular wardrobe rotation? What if some people saw these and liked them and wanted to have one for themselves? What if we charged a small premium over our production costs? What if the trend caught on and there were soon thousands of these shirts on random folks around the country? Please give themagentatroll your thoughts. There would be thousands of idiots wearing thousands of idiotic shirts.

However I HIGHLY doubt this "trend" of yours would catch on at all...eventually someone wearing one of these shirts would be physically assaulted, it would make the news, and that would be the end of your little t-shirt experiment.

The point that's trying to be made is I don't care who A&F hires, I don't care who A&F have in their catalogs, I don't care who A&F promotes within...all I know is they're not getting any of MY money and that's all that matters.

I used to seriously dislike Puffy Combs and when he announced he was starting a men's clothing line a few years ago I laughed. Now, Sean John is one of my favorite brands (the more tame stuff that is). And yes, that company is diverse...so they will continue to get my money.

And yes, that company is diverse...so they will continue to get my money.

You don't really base your clothes-buying decisions upon a particular brand's cultural diversity, do you?

If I could just get those PETA folks to wear my banana-peel-threaded pants, I'd be rich! They're monkey-friendly you know.

Thank you TGRich

For the record, I do not buy AF....it never appealed to me, so I do noy buy it. Just not my style.

On the other hand, I would not say that I only buy something based on the culture of the owners :rolleyes: .

I got to give credit to Sean on his clothing line...hell, on all of his works...he is getting paid.
As far as FUBU, I did not care for the marketing tactic (initial), and did not go out buying a bunch of that gear either...it sends the wrong message.

I am glad that they realized a mistake and cleaned it up.

From reading the posts in this thread, AF does not care about their mistake...as can be inferred it is intentional.


Anyway, let's keep this civilized...and not act like we do not know that there has been/is racism in America. That is just how it is...sadly, it is still around. I wish we could all just get along. I do.

This is of topic of the original post. Any further discussion will close the thread.

Posts made after this one will be deleted or the thread will be closed based on HOW off topic the post is.

If we cannot get back on topic the next thing you will see is. :close:

Thanks.

These are current pics... You could say somewhat diverse. hehe

http://www.clublexus.com/gallery/data/3247/12696afemployees1.jpg

Boy are they pretty!:D

http://www.clublexus.com/gallery/data/3247/12696afemployees2.jpg

uhh diverse? that second one is nothing but girls... that is totally sexist...




hahaha. jsut kidding, (that wasnt verry funny either, y did i post this?)

Originally posted by The_Hitman
uhh diverse? that second one is nothing but girls... that is totally sexist...




hahaha. jsut kidding, (that wasnt verry funny either, y did i post this?)


:egads: :D

Lovin' The Girls! Nice pic :)

-Anthony

http://www.clublexus.com/gallery/data/3247/12696afemployees1.jpg

Girl on the far left = :thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:

Originally posted by Darius2004
[Girl on the far left = :thumbup::thumbup::thumbup: yes, yes YES!! I like that one too! ha ha ha!...oh sorry, gotta stay on topic of that necklace :rolleyes: Just messin' witcha Brian, lol.