speed28

Newbie here! I just got my GS350 AWD blk/blk last night. One quick question for you experts out here. Is there a clear coat over the Obsidian paint? I call the 1-800-25-Lexus already, they were no help. So now I am turning to the real experts for help. Thanks guys.

rominl

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there is. both my ls460l and gs350 are obsidian, and when i detailed them, they both have clear coat (pads didn't get blk when polishing)

AlBoston

black onyx didnt have clear. All the new paints are clearcoated.

That old black onyx was soooo deep black when detailed.

The Godfather

iTrader: (1)

ALL paint on modern cars have clear coat. Even black onyx. Ain't no 1 stage paint here lol.

3m ta3

Did the stealership try to sell you clear coat

speed28

No they did not try to sell me clear coat.

mysteryan

Obsidian Black is single stage. I don't know why you guys are so quick to assume that no manufacturers use single stage paint anymore, but many still do in their lineups. Obsidian Black LS, GS, GS are all single stage. Another example of single stage paint on modern cars is Honda. Many of their white Accords are known to be single stage paints. Yes, it's a little hard to believe, but it's true.

flipside909

I work in the collision repair industry. 212 Obsidian is a one stage as mentioned above. Not all Toyota/Lexus paints have clear applied at the factory. Most modern bodyshops however will spray a clear coat on almost all finishes, even if it does not require it.

Now if we're talking metallics, micas and pearls, those certain do have a factory clear.

rominl

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then i cannot understand why when i polish my cars the pads don't really get black as when i detailed some other cars without clear coat?

flipside909

There are 2 possible things I can think of:

1) Your paint is not oxidized
2) You're probably not using an agressive polishing compound and pressure or down force to take a paint layer off.

rominl

iTrader: (4)

umm interesting. that could be true coz' my cars are both very new so i just gave them light polish before putting on the sealant and wax. next time if i get a chance i should try a more aggressive polish and see what i got

flipside909

You sure you want to take a layer of paint off just to check? Not really a smart idea. Your LS came hand wet sanded and polished from the factory.

rominl

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no, i mean using more aggressive polish on some corners or so to confirm

flipside909

Ahh gotcha. I consider nothing in the Zaino line to be aggressive.

The Godfather

iTrader: (1)

I still gotta call BS. Single stage paint on a lexus? So no clearcoat on top of the paint? Are you kidding me? Sorry, I just don't believe it. Somebody show me proof!