Lower Ball joint failed today - with pics
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FIENDS PLEASE DO NOT LET FRIEDNS USE CHEAP EBAY SUSPENSION PARTS!
This thing on the pictures below was perfectly brand new lower ball joint purchased by me about 16 months ago on eBay. It all started when I first came across this thread about 2 years ago. I had 2001 GS430 and being a car enthusiast decided to replace ball joints and tie rod ends as a preventive measure so my car would not look like the original topic starter's car one day.
Car had approximately 80K mile on it so I decided to go ahead and change those suspension parts just to be on a safe side, besides nobody got hurt by installing the new steering and suspension parts. So I got parts from eBay. Pleasantly inexpensive. If my memory serves me well - set of 2 LBJs was about $80. That's two-and-a-half times cheaper than dealer. So I thought: Oh..piece of cast iron is a piece of cast iron. Who cares where it was made. I am not paying two times more just because they want to sell me a nice Toyota Logo on the package. I used to be a mechanic myself and have installed tons of aftermarket parts in my life. Shoul be no problem".![Egads!](https://www.clublexus.com/forums/images/smilies/pat.gif)
So I installed those LBJs and enjoyed them for about 16-18 months until day before yesterday this damned thing just gave up on me. I can't express how extremely lucky I feel myself that it happened at approximately 3mph speed on a parking lot and not on a highway.
This thing on the pictures below was perfectly brand new lower ball joint purchased by me about 16 months ago on eBay. It all started when I first came across this thread about 2 years ago. I had 2001 GS430 and being a car enthusiast decided to replace ball joints and tie rod ends as a preventive measure so my car would not look like the original topic starter's car one day.
Car had approximately 80K mile on it so I decided to go ahead and change those suspension parts just to be on a safe side, besides nobody got hurt by installing the new steering and suspension parts. So I got parts from eBay. Pleasantly inexpensive. If my memory serves me well - set of 2 LBJs was about $80. That's two-and-a-half times cheaper than dealer. So I thought: Oh..piece of cast iron is a piece of cast iron. Who cares where it was made. I am not paying two times more just because they want to sell me a nice Toyota Logo on the package. I used to be a mechanic myself and have installed tons of aftermarket parts in my life. Shoul be no problem".
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So I installed those LBJs and enjoyed them for about 16-18 months until day before yesterday this damned thing just gave up on me. I can't express how extremely lucky I feel myself that it happened at approximately 3mph speed on a parking lot and not on a highway.
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#95
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I guess it's my turn to add my woes....
this happened on Friday on my way back home.
Luckily I was driving on the service road doing 25mph when it broke off.
I noticed my steering sucked *****, had a hard time controlling
when I hit small potholes and bumps on the road. I was changing lanes,
then it happened, horrible noise then ended in the middle of the road.
What makes it funny, I was stuck in Howard Beach area. Anybody from
NYC would know the history of that area. Strangely I received help from
PIzza employees neighborhood residents and Firemen nearby flagging
other drivers away from my car. Well, I got the LBJ fixed but unfortunately
I think I messed up the sensor wires cuz my ABS /VSC lights are on.
I used Beck/Arnley LBJ to fix the problem. I'm gonna do the other
side soon to play it safe. The steering control while driving is way better
now. Can you good folks let me know what parts I need to clear these on the
dash?
It shaved alil bit on the wheel on the inside.
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this happened on Friday on my way back home.
Luckily I was driving on the service road doing 25mph when it broke off.
I noticed my steering sucked *****, had a hard time controlling
when I hit small potholes and bumps on the road. I was changing lanes,
then it happened, horrible noise then ended in the middle of the road.
What makes it funny, I was stuck in Howard Beach area. Anybody from
NYC would know the history of that area. Strangely I received help from
PIzza employees neighborhood residents and Firemen nearby flagging
other drivers away from my car. Well, I got the LBJ fixed but unfortunately
I think I messed up the sensor wires cuz my ABS /VSC lights are on.
I used Beck/Arnley LBJ to fix the problem. I'm gonna do the other
side soon to play it safe. The steering control while driving is way better
now. Can you good folks let me know what parts I need to clear these on the
dash?
It shaved alil bit on the wheel on the inside.
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What year is your car and how many miles? By the wheels, it looks like a 01+ model...which would be my first time reading about this year LBJ's going out with stock set up. You will need another sensor wire to fix the problem. Also, after looking at multiple pics on this site, why is it the right LBJ that typically breaks first?Lexus should be ashamed with the CRAP OEM LBJ's they been installing on the GS since 93!!!! I'm going to install my MOOG LBJ's and tie rods as soon as they come in this week.
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What year is your car and how many miles? By the wheels, it looks like a 01+ model...which would be my first time reading about this year LBJ's going out with stock set up. You will need another sensor wire to fix the problem. Also, after looking at multiple pics on this site, why is it the right LBJ that typically breaks first?Lexus should be ashamed with the CRAP OEM LBJ's they been installing on the GS since 93!!!! I'm going to install my MOOG LBJ's and tie rods as soon as they come in this week.
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that's not good. I have a 03 SD with 123k miles.
(however, my OEM balljoints just got to me a week ago. Guess I will go ahead and install those soon)
Also, most problems were caused from 98-00 models. Do you know if the balljoint that failed on your car was OEM (or replaced previously?)
(however, my OEM balljoints just got to me a week ago. Guess I will go ahead and install those soon)
Also, most problems were caused from 98-00 models. Do you know if the balljoint that failed on your car was OEM (or replaced previously?)
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that's not good. I have a 03 SD with 123k miles.
(however, my OEM balljoints just got to me a week ago. Guess I will go ahead and install those soon)
Also, most problems were caused from 98-00 models. Do you know if the balljoint that failed on your car was OEM (or replaced previously?)
(however, my OEM balljoints just got to me a week ago. Guess I will go ahead and install those soon)
Also, most problems were caused from 98-00 models. Do you know if the balljoint that failed on your car was OEM (or replaced previously?)
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^^^ It's OEM LBJ's. They suck. It's been the one major weak spot on the GS models since 1993. Glad you were not driving fast and please replace the left side very soon. There goes the so called theory on this site that the 01+ lbj's are made better lol. I have read that a lot but no one has provided any supporting documents or TSB from Lexus stating that the 01 joints are made better than the 98-00. If someone has it, please post it.
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^^^ It's OEM LBJ's. They suck. It's been the one major weak spot on the GS models since 1993. Glad you were not driving fast and please replace the left side very soon. There goes the so called theory on this site that the 01+ lbj's are made better lol. I have read that a lot but no one has provided any supporting documents or TSB from Lexus stating that the 01 joints are made better than the 98-00. If someone has it, please post it.
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Go to RockAuto.com. They have great prices for items for our cars. I actually paid $120 shipped for two well made LBJ's and two outer tie rods by MOOG. If you Google rock auto, you should find a 5% off code you can enter on their website "how did you hear about us". They ship very fast (purchased last Friday, received yesterday) and their cust service is outstanding.
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+1 on Moog parts. (except I went with OEM LBJ)
I did buy outer tie rods though. Looks beefy and IIRC, $25 a piece.
the only thing I didn't care for was their Sway Bar endlinks. The 2 mounting holes were off by 1mm or so. Had to get creative to squeeze them in. (Guess I could have just drilled it out a little)
I did buy outer tie rods though. Looks beefy and IIRC, $25 a piece.
the only thing I didn't care for was their Sway Bar endlinks. The 2 mounting holes were off by 1mm or so. Had to get creative to squeeze them in. (Guess I could have just drilled it out a little)