Fs: 2001 Gs 430
07-10-03, 09:04 AM
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Originally posted by Drive4Fun
Thanks to all for your input. The car goes to the dealer at 2:00 PM today.
I'm getting a 2003 Lincoln LS Premium Sport.
The GS 430 has been an excellent car, but just isn't as satisfying as the Lincoln. I drove a 2000 Lincoln LS for 35,000 miles/ two years, then the GS 430 for 23,000 miles/two years, then a test drive in the 2003 Lincoln.
The Lincoln has more and better features, handles better, and very important to me, is directional stability on the expressway that is laser-straight, even on irregular road surfaces and wind gusts. A person has to drive them both under the same conditions in order to appreciate the superiority of the Lincoln in this aspect.
My only cause for hesitation in making the change was the terrific financial beating I was taking for two years of ownership of the GS.
Enjoy your Lexi; they're great cars. Broaden your knowledge and test drive a Lincoln LS.
Thanks to all for your input. The car goes to the dealer at 2:00 PM today.
I'm getting a 2003 Lincoln LS Premium Sport.
The GS 430 has been an excellent car, but just isn't as satisfying as the Lincoln. I drove a 2000 Lincoln LS for 35,000 miles/ two years, then the GS 430 for 23,000 miles/two years, then a test drive in the 2003 Lincoln.
The Lincoln has more and better features, handles better, and very important to me, is directional stability on the expressway that is laser-straight, even on irregular road surfaces and wind gusts. A person has to drive them both under the same conditions in order to appreciate the superiority of the Lincoln in this aspect.
My only cause for hesitation in making the change was the terrific financial beating I was taking for two years of ownership of the GS.
Enjoy your Lexi; they're great cars. Broaden your knowledge and test drive a Lincoln LS.
Good luck with LS, if thats what you are into. God knows I will never trade away from the Lexus car line whether car or SUV.
07-10-03, 09:05 AM
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Originally posted by Drive4Fun
The Lincoln has more and better features, handles better, and very important to me, is directional stability on the expressway that is laser-straight, even on irregular road surfaces and wind gusts. A person has to drive them both under the same conditions in order to appreciate the superiority of the Lincoln in this aspect.
The Lincoln has more and better features, handles better, and very important to me, is directional stability on the expressway that is laser-straight, even on irregular road surfaces and wind gusts. A person has to drive them both under the same conditions in order to appreciate the superiority of the Lincoln in this aspect.
But, I'm sure a decently modded Lexus will spank an LS. With parts that won't void warranty such as L-tuned shocks and springs, TRD sways, and an L-Tuned ECU, you would have what you desire. Can go even further with TRD STB and LCB. All these parts are not that expensive.
And the beating you are taking on the GS? Look at resale prices for an LS.
07-10-03, 09:28 AM
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I paid cash for the Lexus.
Your comments are valid only after you've driven both cars for many miles.
Your credibility and maturity are made very clear by your closing statement.
Your comments are valid only after you've driven both cars for many miles.
Your credibility and maturity are made very clear by your closing statement.
07-10-03, 01:36 PM
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Originally posted by AgGS400
Well, not sure on features as Lexus is an old design.
But, I'm sure a decently modded Lexus will spank an LS. With parts that won't void warranty such as L-tuned shocks and springs, TRD sways, and an L-Tuned ECU, you would have what you desire. Can go even further with TRD STB and LCB. All these parts are not that expensive.
And the beating you are taking on the GS? Look at resale prices for an LS.
Well, not sure on features as Lexus is an old design.
But, I'm sure a decently modded Lexus will spank an LS. With parts that won't void warranty such as L-tuned shocks and springs, TRD sways, and an L-Tuned ECU, you would have what you desire. Can go even further with TRD STB and LCB. All these parts are not that expensive.
And the beating you are taking on the GS? Look at resale prices for an LS.
Also, once modded, the resale market shrinks considerably. Some people wouldn't even consider my GS430 because it had OZ Racing wheels ... a wheel supplier for TRD.
Let's not get into a flame war. My point is that the Lexus GS 430 is an excellent car. The Lincoln LS is also an excellent car that hasn't yet earned the much-deserved great reputation of the Lexus. The Lexus has some features and characteristics that are lacking in the Lincoln. The Lincoln has some features and characteristics that are lacking in the Lexus.
I believe that a person should drive both, and pick the one that represents the best value for the features & characteristics important to him/her. If the Lincoln is selected, then the issue becomes: what to do with the $7,000-$10,000 saved. College? Vacation Trip?
07-10-03, 02:22 PM
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It is just money. Get acar that you like.
Good luck.
Good luck.
Originally posted by Drive4Fun
Dealer is giving me $31,000.
By the way, when considering depreciation, look at the actual purchase prices, not MSRP as too many auto writers do.
Dealer is giving me $31,000.
By the way, when considering depreciation, look at the actual purchase prices, not MSRP as too many auto writers do.
07-10-03, 03:28 PM
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Guys - let's keep the comments impersonal. This gentleman's finances and plans for any "edubacation" are his own personal business, not ours. If he likes the Lincoln better, he should get it.
Drive4fun, simply putting the l-tuned suspension on your GS (springs/shocks) will make it handle better than the LS. Not a big expense IMO.
Suggest you look up your local Carmax and see what they'll give you for your car as well.
Drive4fun, simply putting the l-tuned suspension on your GS (springs/shocks) will make it handle better than the LS. Not a big expense IMO.
Suggest you look up your local Carmax and see what they'll give you for your car as well.
07-12-03, 05:47 AM
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Some of the immature and condescending comments are way off base. Before you guys throw stones, or mock the LS you should know that Lincoln made a lot of changes/upgrades for 2003 and it's a great car. It might not rate the same in overall reliability as Lexus, but the differences in quality across many brands are not that statistically significant. I can say that my 2000 Lexus GS had a few things to fix in the early days, and even recently I had to have some warranty work done, so it's not all 'perfection'. My prior two cars, both Acura Legends, were of higher overall build quality than my GS.
Drive4Fun - good luck with the LS. Kinda sad that you're taking such a beating on the GS and I really do wish I could have bought your car, that's such a deal, but I've got other financial commitments going on right now that made it impossible.
Drive4Fun - good luck with the LS. Kinda sad that you're taking such a beating on the GS and I really do wish I could have bought your car, that's such a deal, but I've got other financial commitments going on right now that made it impossible.
