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Old 11-25-07, 10:00 AM
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Default Thinking of converting to HID? STOP!

At least that's what this article states.




http://www.danielsternlighting.com/t...nversions.html
Old 11-25-07, 10:33 AM
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our cars does not create incorrect beam pattern, it has a projector already. unlike old cars.
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Originally Posted by Hartawan
our cars does not create incorrect beam pattern, it has a projector already. unlike old cars.
Great point!
Now I'm interested in the conversion.

Does a HID conversion void warranty?

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Old 11-25-07, 10:58 AM
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The only way to VOID the warranty is if they were not installed correctly and some how the stock wiring got fried.

The correct way to run HIDs are on a relay wiring system in which the HID will draw its main power from the battery and not through the stock wiring system. The only "power" the HID kit will require is a signal from the stock car harness.

Most of these kits that are "plug and play" do not have these relay wiring kit but they can be picked up fairly cheap.
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Originally Posted by ek9vboi
The only way to VOID the warranty is if they were not installed correctly and some how the stock wiring got fried.

The correct way to run HIDs are on a relay wiring system in which the HID will draw its main power from the battery and not through the stock wiring system. The only "power" the HID kit will require is a signal from the stock car harness.

Most of these kits that are "plug and play" do not have these relay wiring kit but they can be picked up fairly cheap.
Thanks for the reply.
How are these kits?


http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/JAPAN...mZ250189726817

Just may go with CL vendor Steve's 4300k Xtreme Xenon kit.

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Old 11-25-07, 02:15 PM
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isnt that almost the same price? might as well get it from our vendor.
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Originally Posted by Hartawan
isnt that almost the same price? might as well get it from our vendor.
Actually the vendor here is cheaper at $245 H11 4300k Xtreme Xenon HID Conversion Kit.
However the Ebay MTEC is made for the IS 250.Could be an advertising gimmick but...


This is for a brand new set of MTEC HID kit for LEXUS IS250 / IS350.

 

Exclusive for LEXUS IS250 / IS350

Direct Fit, No Error Message!!




Be Aware!!

This kit is designed for LEXUS IS model.

Perfect fit!

Other H11 Conversion kits CANNOT fit LEXUS IS.

Only MTEC Special Kit can make it.

 

You can choose from 4500K, 6000K or 8000K.

MTEC HID kit is Made In Japan
Old 11-25-07, 04:16 PM
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-- Kits = BIG NO NO regardless of if you use them in a reflector set up or a halogen projector. Optics will always be off regardless of what a seller tells you, its not a personal opinion its a fact.

-- Any sort of alteration of the headlight where you use something that is not approved by the manufacturer for usage would void the warranty i.e. if a low beam is rated to be used with a 9006 bulb then it does not mean a 9006 kit, it means a bulb rated at 55 watts model 9006.

-- Kits may be an easy way to get yourself in the HID world but its not the right way to do it. Either buy a car that comes equipped with OEM HIDs or do a retrofit using HID components, such as HID projectors along with D1/2/3/4S bulbs.

-- I will not debate this issue any further due to the sole fact that a kit can be bought for $50 where for retrofits a decent one would cost you a pretty penny .
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Originally Posted by JnC
-- Kits = BIG NO NO regardless of if you use them in a reflector set up or a halogen projector. Optics will always be off regardless of what a seller tells you, its not a personal opinion its a fact.

-- Any sort of alteration of the headlight where you use something that is not approved by the manufacturer for usage would void the warranty i.e. if a low beam is rated to be used with a 9006 bulb then it does not mean a 9006 kit, it means a bulb rated at 55 watts model 9006.

-- Kits may be an easy way to get yourself in the HID world but its not the right way to do it. Either buy a car that comes equipped with OEM HIDs or do a retrofit using HID components, such as HID projectors along with D1/2/3/4S bulbs.

-- I will not debate this issue any further due to the sole fact that a kit can be bought for $50 where for retrofits a decent one would cost you a pretty penny .
Actually, JnC is right about what he says. I know that many people convert their headlights to HID with after market kits, because they think that that there is already a "projector" in the headlight housing.

Well, there is a projector in there, but it's designed for Halogen bulbs and NOT HID bulbs.

Even though many convert to HID and think that the "cutoff" is ok, the one major thing about factory HID is that they have automatic leveling so as not to blind oncoming traffic depending on the grade that you are on. If you convert halogen to HID, you will not have this one very important feature. The car is still illegal.

For what it's worth.

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Wow,great info!
So the my projectors aren't compatible with a HID conversion kit.
Bummer.
Old 11-25-07, 06:08 PM
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It's been my observation that many (most?) people obsessed with HIDs are more concerned with the look than the functionality. That is, they want to change the bulbs because their lights don't look as blue as (insert other car brand here). Only others that have inordinate amounts of time to browse websites with pictures of bulbs with Japaneses writing and lots of exclamation points will notice the difference, but I digress.

With that in mind, I highly doubt the law, visibility, or blinding oncoming drivers will change this behavior pattern.

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Hey, I say if you want HIDs in a non-HID projector/housing then do it. It doesn't stop 10 million others from doing it, so why should you. Most of these kits that you see for $200+ are expensive.
Old 11-25-07, 11:02 PM
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what if you have a 2is with stock HID but u just want to change the bulb to a differnt temp rating? would that work?
Old 11-26-07, 12:20 AM
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Newbs need to read.

Kits: http://www.hidplanet.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=31997

HID Info: http://www.hidplanet.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2080

If you just can't read, watch these: http://www.hidplanet.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=8204

Everything else: http://faqlight.carpassion.info/

You "HID Kit" boys can thank me later.
Old 11-26-07, 01:06 AM
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what if one were to walk into the lexus parts dept. and ask them to put lexus HID's in their IS? would this be possible to convert, for pre-X package ppl?


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