Black GS/ A Pain
08-01-07, 03:41 PM
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Black GS/ A Pain
Hello everyone. I was wondering how you guys with black cars get swirl marks out and keep them out. Ive been told by a local body shop the only options i have is to wetsand the clear and buff it out, or a respray. Neither seem like an option I would want to consider. Im a DIY guy so I want to do this in my own garage. Anybody have a good product or method to make my black paint flawless? Thank you!
08-01-07, 03:56 PM
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Black is a PITA but looks incredible when clean. Depending on how bad the swirls are. A professional detailer should be able to get them out for you. It will be up to your washing habits to keep the swirls from coming back. If you want to do it yourself start by visiting autopia.org or CL's detailing section (where this thread might be moved anyway).
08-01-07, 06:02 PM
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wetsanding is an option, but only if you're skillful at it. Most likely wetsanding will remove more than you want though.
A professional detailer should have no problem getting rid of the swirls. I try to detail once every 6 months just to reduce swirls. No matter what you do, there will always be some sort of swirls. Not unless your car is a show car that never gets driven, and has some sort of cover on it to protect itself from the outside world.. You just have to deal with it.
A professional detailer should have no problem getting rid of the swirls. I try to detail once every 6 months just to reduce swirls. No matter what you do, there will always be some sort of swirls. Not unless your car is a show car that never gets driven, and has some sort of cover on it to protect itself from the outside world.. You just have to deal with it.
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08-01-07, 06:12 PM
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mine is a show car and it DOES get driven. a lot! lol but I detail once a month. someone who is skillful with a buffer and detailing compound should be able to take care of your swirls. I wax my car 2 times a month on top of the buff job to keep the swirls away.
08-01-07, 06:41 PM
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Clay and wax will never remove swirls. Perhaps a cleaner/wax might reduce them slightly. To remove swirls you need to use a polish. Use of a PC or rotary is recommended. Wet sanding is not a good solution as it removes way too much clear-coat. If you use a glaze you can temporarily hide some of the lighter swirls.
08-01-07, 08:12 PM
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Clay and wax will never remove swirls. Perhaps a cleaner/wax might reduce them slightly. To remove swirls you need to use a polish. Use of a PC or rotary is recommended. Wet sanding is not a good solution as it removes way too much clear-coat. If you use a glaze you can temporarily hide some of the lighter swirls.
A PC or rotary buffer would eliminate most swirls if used properly but can potentially create more damage if used by an novice..
Learning how to detail is something takes 10 minutes to learn and a lifetime to master..
I wouldn't recommend wetsanding either, in some cases, sandmarks sometimes are harder to remove than swirls...Wetsanding is a PITA..
Sanding by hand however, won't give you that result you're looking for 
08-01-07, 08:29 PM
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Listen to One Hot. He detailed my 2001 blk/blk LS430 and took it from a so/so to a HEADTURNER. The car looked like it came off the showroom floor when he finished with it. The guy knows his business!
08-01-07, 09:02 PM
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I was just thinking of posting a picture of your car as an example, I hope your okay with it...I did my own version of a half hood, your car was a prime candidate since it was heavily swirled...It was treated throughly with Clay Magic first and then OP/OC mixture via rotary speed 3 (1500rpm)...
Hood before:
half before and half after:
Hood after:
BTW, no wax has been applied yet...Just proves that wax does not remove it...
Last edited by One HoT; 08-01-07 at 09:16 PM.
08-01-07, 09:54 PM
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Ideal conditions would be indoors but, you can't check your work without sunlight...Indoor lights can't capture micromarring and halograms...I use sun friendly products, but still you are right, broken down polish is harder to remove in the sun..Regardless, I re-wash the car after polishing stage since it leaves dust before I seal..
No streaking at the end..
No streaking at the end..
Last edited by One HoT; 08-01-07 at 09:58 PM.