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Hey Chris,
I'm using a PC with an orange pad and Menzerna IP. It seems as though I can't remove a lot of scratches and swirls. Not only that, but I seem to have hazing on the paint. I see some spots are cloudy where some are glossier. I use the PC at speed 6 with the orange, and from my understanding that with IP should be pretty effective for correction. I'm also apply some good amount of pressure. Do you have any tips for me? Should I be following with a finer polish? From what I read IP doesnt really need to be followed up with a finer polish correct? I still haven't used the RMG that I got from you. I want to correct more of the paint before I use the RMG and P21S 100% nuba. Please let me know what I'm doing wrong or what I should be doing in addition.
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I'm using a PC with an orange pad and Menzerna IP. It seems as though I can't remove a lot of scratches and swirls. Not only that, but I seem to have hazing on the paint. I see some spots are cloudy where some are glossier. I use the PC at speed 6 with the orange, and from my understanding that with IP should be pretty effective for correction. I'm also apply some good amount of pressure. Do you have any tips for me? Should I be following with a finer polish? From what I read IP doesnt really need to be followed up with a finer polish correct? I still haven't used the RMG that I got from you. I want to correct more of the paint before I use the RMG and P21S 100% nuba. Please let me know what I'm doing wrong or what I should be doing in addition.
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I had something of a basic question on detailing. I want to bring my car to a detailer, I have identified them already, to get the car "back in shape" so I can maintain it. My concern is when I had bought my used truck part of the deal was a detail to "remove" the scuffs and minor scratches out of it only to have them reappear a bit later. I have a PC DA and gathering other supplies to do the regular maintenance but its at a stage beyond my abilities to bring back right now. I will be reviewing some of the threads on this post for tips.
My question: What should I be asking the detailer to do(its not the dealers crew BTW) to ensure after the next wash or rainfall the scuffs/scratches do not reappear? The truck looked brand new for like 3 days...then the swirls, spiderwebs,halo's and scratches started showing up.
Sorry if this has been asked a hundred times already but I didnt see it in this post. Thanks in advance.
My question: What should I be asking the detailer to do(its not the dealers crew BTW) to ensure after the next wash or rainfall the scuffs/scratches do not reappear? The truck looked brand new for like 3 days...then the swirls, spiderwebs,halo's and scratches started showing up.
Sorry if this has been asked a hundred times already but I didnt see it in this post. Thanks in advance.
When you bring it to the new detailer, you can ask/request that he uses polishes that contain no (ie: very minimal) fillers. If he doesnt have any, you can request that he does an IPA wipedown after polishing to remove any oils, thus revealing what defects have been removed and what remains. Ask what products/tools he's using to remove them. Removing the swirls is the only way to ensure they dont reappear after the car is washed or after being in some rainy weather. Obviously, make sure you're using clean wash mitts/drying towels so that you're not reintroducing them back into the paint too. Usually if they can remove 90%+ of the problems, thats a good job.
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I'm not very familiar w/ the menz lineup since I dont use it personally. The guy who works w/ me uses it on occasion, so I will certainly get his input for you. I would still recommend following up after the orange pad though. Even on tough Audi paint, I finish with a white pad. The orange pad is what may be causing some of the hazing that you're seeing. usually its more present w/ a stronger compound paired with it, but I wouldnt rule it out as the culprit. You dont necessarily have to switch product either, just pads.
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Taeng, use a sharpie and put 4 lines on your PC backing plate. The PC has to spin a little to correct at fullest strength, otherwise its just stationary due to the extreme pressure you may have put on it. Also, assuming that you are doing a Lexus it should be fine. We have soft clear coats for some reason. Make sure you are using enough pressure to keep it spinning and that the pad is primed well. If a pad isn't primed that great it causes hazing. Also, sometimes orange+IP does cause hazing so its always recommended to go over with a final polish and a white pad. That way your paint has the maximum clarity it can get. Hope this helps
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Most likely he is applying too much pressure to the pad Chris ![Sad](https://www.clublexus.com/forums/images/smilies/sad.gif)
Taeng, use a sharpie and put 4 lines on your PC backing plate. The PC has to spin a little to correct at fullest strength, otherwise its just stationary due to the extreme pressure you may have put on it. Also, assuming that you are doing a Lexus it should be fine. We have soft clear coats for some reason. Make sure you are using enough pressure to keep it spinning and that the pad is primed well. If a pad isn't primed that great it causes hazing. Also, sometimes orange+IP does cause hazing so its always recommended to go over with a final polish and a white pad. That way your paint has the maximum clarity it can get. Hope this helps
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Taeng, use a sharpie and put 4 lines on your PC backing plate. The PC has to spin a little to correct at fullest strength, otherwise its just stationary due to the extreme pressure you may have put on it. Also, assuming that you are doing a Lexus it should be fine. We have soft clear coats for some reason. Make sure you are using enough pressure to keep it spinning and that the pad is primed well. If a pad isn't primed that great it causes hazing. Also, sometimes orange+IP does cause hazing so its always recommended to go over with a final polish and a white pad. That way your paint has the maximum clarity it can get. Hope this helps
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Priming the pad is usually done if its a dry pad or a new one. I usually put a light X of polish on the pad. Then after that I just do 3 dots on the edge. Usually by then the pad is well lubricated and might lower the chance of hazing. Are you breaking the polish down enough? I usually do it until its almost clear on any car I'm working on. If it is worked in too short it wont do much but if it is worked in too long it might cause hazing. I had that problem on my friends Jet Black BMW I was working on.
If it doesn't seem to be working, I find that Prima Swirl or #83 has a bit more cut in it than IP does. That and they seem to work longer as well. Also, if you go to 4in pads, it cuts faster (and more than with a 6.5" pad) and doesn't bog down at all. I have been using that on super annoying paints lately. Takes a little longer to finish the car but with that 4in orange and IP, it seems to work a lot better. That is also another alternative you can try
To be honest, I have never used IP with a white pad to remove the hazing. Test it out, it might remove it. You never know man
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Hmm, I have never worked on a non clearcoated paint before...I'm guessing it reacts differently than one with Clear on it... ![Uhh...](https://www.clublexus.com/forums/images/smilies/1387914497.gif)
Priming the pad is usually done if its a dry pad or a new one. I usually put a light X of polish on the pad. Then after that I just do 3 dots on the edge. Usually by then the pad is well lubricated and might lower the chance of hazing. Are you breaking the polish down enough? I usually do it until its almost clear on any car I'm working on. If it is worked in too short it wont do much but if it is worked in too long it might cause hazing. I had that problem on my friends Jet Black BMW I was working on.
If it doesn't seem to be working, I find that Prima Swirl or #83 has a bit more cut in it than IP does. That and they seem to work longer as well. Also, if you go to 4in pads, it cuts faster (and more than with a 6.5" pad) and doesn't bog down at all. I have been using that on super annoying paints lately. Takes a little longer to finish the car but with that 4in orange and IP, it seems to work a lot better. That is also another alternative you can try
To be honest, I have never used IP with a white pad to remove the hazing. Test it out, it might remove it. You never know man![Wink](https://www.clublexus.com/forums/images/smilies/wink.gif)
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Priming the pad is usually done if its a dry pad or a new one. I usually put a light X of polish on the pad. Then after that I just do 3 dots on the edge. Usually by then the pad is well lubricated and might lower the chance of hazing. Are you breaking the polish down enough? I usually do it until its almost clear on any car I'm working on. If it is worked in too short it wont do much but if it is worked in too long it might cause hazing. I had that problem on my friends Jet Black BMW I was working on.
If it doesn't seem to be working, I find that Prima Swirl or #83 has a bit more cut in it than IP does. That and they seem to work longer as well. Also, if you go to 4in pads, it cuts faster (and more than with a 6.5" pad) and doesn't bog down at all. I have been using that on super annoying paints lately. Takes a little longer to finish the car but with that 4in orange and IP, it seems to work a lot better. That is also another alternative you can try
To be honest, I have never used IP with a white pad to remove the hazing. Test it out, it might remove it. You never know man
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hi chris and thanks for all your knowledge! What would you recomend for a ruby red es very first wash/wax the day I bring it home from the dealer? thanks again
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For washing, you have a few options. Super Slick n Suds, Optimum Car Wash, Chemical Guys Citrus Wash n Gloss and P21s Bodywork Shampoo are all great soaps. You really cant go wrong with any of those. The Poorboys and Optimum are larger bottles fwiw.
A sheepskin wash mitt is also a good idea if you dont already have one. THey hold a lot of water, are super soft and release dirt well.
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I would also suggest picking up a grit guard for your bucket. These are great little devices that really are effective at keeping dirt from being reintroduced to your wash mitt when you put it in the bucket.
Finally, a nice microfiber waffle weave drying towel.
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You have a ton of options for wax
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Something like Poorboys Nattys Blue is a great value. Super easy to use and looks great. Chemical Guys Petes53 has a very high carnauba content and looks awesome. 5050 looks outstanding imo and has some nice durability. On the same note, p21s also looks great, but doesnt have the durability of 5050 or something like collinite 915 or 476. If the car is going to stay outside, 476 or 915 should be considered, as should a sealant like EX, Jetseal (nice slick fell too!), or M/F seal.
Hows that for options, lol.
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Hey Chris I had a couple of questions for you. I just picked up a 2005 GX 470 Blue Meridian Pearl (dark blue) and it is in desperate need of a good detailing. Anyways I am pretty new to all of this so I just want to make sure I have all of the steps right. Also on the chrome trim there is a lot of what looks to be rust or hard water spots that I cannot remove, even with chrome polish. Do you have any suggestions? Also from reading on autopia it seems like the flex machine blows the PC out of the water is that true? So I am looking at claying, compounding, polishing, sealing, and waxing does that sound right? Oh and one more question how do you get those cool looking lines on the carpet after it has been profesionally cleaned?
Thanks for your help!
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Thanks for your help!
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Hey Chris,
I been wanting to learn to do my own detail but time is very limited right now. I live in NJ as well and wanted to know what you charge for a full detail, my GS is pretty clean (not like that BMW x5 you showed!), but I would like to have my paint polished and corrected so it can be at it's very best.
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I been wanting to learn to do my own detail but time is very limited right now. I live in NJ as well and wanted to know what you charge for a full detail, my GS is pretty clean (not like that BMW x5 you showed!), but I would like to have my paint polished and corrected so it can be at it's very best.
Thanks!
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HI Chris,
I received the UDM, polishes & wax 2 weeks ago and used them right away on my cars. The results were so amazing, made me fall in love with the cars again. The problem that I came across using OA is the vibration when I set the speed to 6, it vibrated so strong. Did I do something wrong?
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I received the UDM, polishes & wax 2 weeks ago and used them right away on my cars. The results were so amazing, made me fall in love with the cars again. The problem that I came across using OA is the vibration when I set the speed to 6, it vibrated so strong. Did I do something wrong?
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Hey Chris I had a couple of questions for you. I just picked up a 2005 GX 470 Blue Meridian Pearl (dark blue) and it is in desperate need of a good detailing. Anyways I am pretty new to all of this so I just want to make sure I have all of the steps right. Also on the chrome trim there is a lot of what looks to be rust or hard water spots that I cannot remove, even with chrome polish. Do you have any suggestions? Also from reading on autopia it seems like the flex machine blows the PC out of the water is that true? So I am looking at claying, compounding, polishing, sealing, and waxing does that sound right? Oh and one more question how do you get those cool looking lines on the carpet after it has been profesionally cleaned?
Thanks for your help!
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The steps youre looking to take are correct. You might consider rewashing after claying to remove the clay residue. I rewash, some just use a quick detailer. .. up to you really. The flex is a great machine, but obviously comes at a cost at well over 100.00 more for the machine alone. It really depends on a few things. How often do you plan to use it? 1 or 2x a year or more? Basically, you have to figure out if its worth the extra cost for you. I have just about one of every machine (pc/udm/flex/rotary/etc etc). My one complaint with the Flex was that the dust ring/plastic back of backing plate has started to melt and shed some plastic pieces
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As for the carpet lines, simply use a nice carpet/upholstery brush and run it in opposing directions next to each other. Its just a matter of standing up the fibers going one way, and laying them down when going the other
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Hey Chris,
I been wanting to learn to do my own detail but time is very limited right now. I live in NJ as well and wanted to know what you charge for a full detail, my GS is pretty clean (not like that BMW x5 you showed!), but I would like to have my paint polished and corrected so it can be at it's very best.
Thanks!
I been wanting to learn to do my own detail but time is very limited right now. I live in NJ as well and wanted to know what you charge for a full detail, my GS is pretty clean (not like that BMW x5 you showed!), but I would like to have my paint polished and corrected so it can be at it's very best.
Thanks!