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Old 11-08-08 | 01:37 PM
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Can someone tell me what needs to be done to my BLACK ES300?
Well... it's clean, because I have been washing and drying lately but I see this crazy swirls, scratches, watermark all over the car and bird poop that won't wash off(it did but it left a mark which I can't get it off). And I've been reading different posts about detailing and decided to try AGAIN(I already bought PC and Pinnacles XMT series chemicals which I wasn't really satisfied with, or didn't know how to use it correctly). I was thinking...
1.Wash/Dry
2.Clay
3.Compound(not sure if this is neccessary)
4.Polish
5.Wash
Now there are thousands of different products for compound/polish, I just want simplest but effective product. and do I really need COMPOUND? or can I go straight to POLISH? I've seen a post where Polish came off after few weeks which brought those scratches, swirls back. So which product and which pads? Can someone recommend me inexpensive, simple, yet effective products for my car?

Thanks,
Tae
Old 11-08-08 | 02:36 PM
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Ok, you have the process correct. I'll touch on the products in a moment.
As for the bird crap. It is possible that you have some etching from the acid in the crap. If it hasnt been there too long, it should polish out. If its been sitting for a looong time, there is a chance that you wont be able to remove it completely, although you should be able to reduce its appearance.

Heres what I'd recommend trying out:

Clay and clay lube. If you need a how-to, just let me know and I"ll give you a rundown on how to do it.
http://www.glimmerglassdetailing.com/200grligrfig.html
http://www.glimmerglassdetailing.com...less-wash.html

After claying, move to this combo. ssr2.5 on an orange pad. Work at speed 5-6, in relatively small areas. ie: dont try to do the whole hood in one shot.
http://www.glimmerglassdetailing.com/ssr26.html
http://www.glimmerglassdetailing.com/5orlicutccsf.html

After you're done w/ that combo, you can move to ssr1 on a white pad. work this at speed 4-4.5.
http://www.glimmerglassdetailing.com/ssr.html
http://www.glimmerglassdetailing.com/5whccsfopopa.html

Then you should be ready to go ahead and wax. If you're looking for an easy to use wax, I'll give you a couple options. Both look awesome on black.
http://www.glimmerglassdetailing.com/nablpawax.html
http://www.glimmerglassdetailing.com/p2colocawax.html

And to sweeten the deal, I'm running a 4 day special. 20% off just enter the same coupon code
Old 11-08-08 | 04:16 PM
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Thanks Chris,
do you have other product like compound and polish?
i don't think swirl remover will do the trick since my pinnacle xmt series didn't work.

thanks
Old 11-08-08 | 04:20 PM
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or how about SSR3? too aggressive? followed by poorboy's professional polish?
followed by your recommended wax? what ya think? and how is POORBOYS product compared to PINNACLE XMT SERIES?

thanks
Old 11-08-08 | 06:13 PM
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For wax, are you looking for looks or durability? If for looks, prep work dictates at least 90% of how the car looks like in the end

For durability, Collonite 476/845 are great
Old 11-08-08 | 07:49 PM
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Originally Posted by hoonami
Thanks Chris,
do you have other product like compound and polish?
i don't think swirl remover will do the trick since my pinnacle xmt series didn't work.

thanks
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or how about SSR3? too aggressive? followed by poorboy's professional polish?
followed by your recommended wax? what ya think? and how is POORBOYS product compared to PINNACLE XMT SERIES?

thanks
You can certainly use ssr3. Its pretty strong, but nothing outrageous. You're going to have to step down in aggression from there though. So I'd suggest either ssr2.5 or ssr2 after using 3. Then finish it off w/ ssr1.
Heres a post from Charles from paintcarendetailing.com (great site for learning from, seeing break down stages, etc. using ssr3 to start, megs dacp (just a medium abrasive polish) and finished with ssr1. I wouldnt suggest using professional polish right after ssr3, you need to step it down in order to remove any hazing. You can use pro polish after ssr1 if you'd like though.

Used - Poorboys SSR3, Meguiars DACP and finished with Poorboys SSR1 - All done with a Porter Cable
Before:


After:


Top after polishing bottom before:

Old 11-08-08 | 07:51 PM
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Originally Posted by eyezack87
For wax, are you looking for looks or durability? If for looks, prep work dictates at least 90% of how the car looks like in the end

For durability, Collonite 476/845 are great
agreed! you cant beat collinite for durability. Looks are pretty damn good too imo
Old 11-10-08 | 10:13 AM
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i have a tub of used Poorboy's Natty's Blue on sale now in the General Classified section if you are interested...just clearing some stuff up....
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