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Old 01-13-14, 03:56 PM
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Does anyone know how to hide the swirl marks that appear on the black pillar area? I've had two used IS250's, both with paint in great shape. But that black area seems to always show light swirls and scratches.

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Why would you hide them?

Simply polish them to perfection in order to remove the defects in the first place.



If they are really fine and you wanted to temporarily fill them in instead of remove them, wax will help achieve that.
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I would machine polish them and use a coating like 22PLE or Wolf's Hard Body that makes it somewhat more scratch resistant.

I know exactly what you mean about those pillars. Lexus uses really crappy black paint on those areas. Several I corrected are not even clear-coated...just a jet black paint so no wonder they swirl so easily.

Be very careful no to get too aggressive at the edges as the paint is thin and is easy to burn through or polish through if you are polishing it by hand.

I'd go for a finishing polish like Meguiars 205/Sonax Perfect Finish/Menzerna 4000/4500). Any mild polish will work.

They will swirl up again, all you can do is minimize it by being very careful during your wash process and use a clean wash mitt and clean wash bucket.
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Originally Posted by zmcgovern4
Why would you hide them?

Simply polish them to perfection in order to remove the defects in the first place.



If they are really fine and you wanted to temporarily fill them in instead of remove them, wax will help achieve that.
Zach, great post!

However, if this guy plans to keep this car for a while, I DO NOT recommend machine polishing those more than once every 2-3 years as the paint on them is extremely thin.
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Polish them and then put a clear film over them if you're worried about it.
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Thank you everyone for the information. I do not own a buffer, and I do not have the means to polish professionally right now. What kind of "in the garage" car wax could I use? I have several kinds of Mother's wax. Carnuba? Will any work? Thank you!
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if you need something over the counter, meguiars ultimate compound might take out the defects you describe by hand with a foam or microfiber applicator.
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Originally Posted by wallaceb
Thank you everyone for the information. I do not own a buffer, and I do not have the means to polish professionally right now. What kind of "in the garage" car wax could I use? I have several kinds of Mother's wax. Carnuba? Will any work? Thank you!
The wax wont do anything besides maybe make it slightly darker and wetter looking, it wont remove swirls.

Just go to any parts store like Pepboys and pick up a bottle of Meguiars M205 and a few yellow round wax/polish applicators and polish these areas by hand. That's your best best at this point without buying a machine. If you spend enough time you could make it perfect.
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very well done Zack... unfortunately these are the worst problems areas for scratches...
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I had the same issue not too long ago with my GS. All I did was use a microfiber towel, 3m rubbing compound and elbow grease to get rid of the water spots I had. I wouldn't recommend using a machine as the paint is very very soft in that area. The swirls will come off with little effort.
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Originally Posted by 97-SC300
I would machine polish them and use a coating like 22PLE or Wolf's Hard Body that makes it somewhat more scratch resistant.

I know exactly what you mean about those pillars. Lexus uses really crappy black paint on those areas. Several I corrected are not even clear-coated...just a jet black paint so no wonder they swirl so easily.

Be very careful no to get too aggressive at the edges as the paint is thin and is easy to burn through or polish through if you are polishing it by hand.

I'd go for a finishing polish like Meguiars 205/Sonax Perfect Finish/Menzerna 4000/4500). Any mild polish will work.

They will swirl up again, all you can do is minimize it by being very careful during your wash process and use a clean wash mitt and clean wash bucket.
Been avoiding the detailing section for years now, figured I would get my feet wet today. Coincidently these pillars were polished with - one side Megs 205 and the other side with Menzerna PF2500.

I must have deleted the drivers side before picture as I could not find it. It was in the worse shape, my ex-girlfriend had used a brand new Arnold Speedy Prep Towel on it straight out of the package w/o breaking it in, I'm surprised she was using lube








Passenger Pillars - Before





Passenger Pillars - After





Drivers Pillars

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Polished B posts are like a finishing touch, and they're almost impossible to NOT notice. I notice mine almost every time I open the door. I'm surprised, though. A couple people have mentioned how thin the paint is. I assumed it was just black plastic. Now my expectations are even higher!

Nice job xtr3me! Those look awesome!
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Originally Posted by Woodrow
Polished B posts are like a finishing touch, and they're almost impossible to NOT notice. I notice mine almost every time I open the door. I'm surprised, though. A couple people have mentioned how thin the paint is. I assumed it was just black plastic. Now my expectations are even higher!

Nice job xtr3me! Those look awesome!
You're not incorrect... many times they are simply polished black plastic (easy to notice when your pads turn black while polishing). Usually this indicates single stage paint, however on these surfaces I imagine it is simply polished plastic that is not painted at all.
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Wow. I need to do this.
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