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Old 06-01-16, 03:56 AM
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Originally Posted by tjmhillz
Geez man how many cars and trucks do you have.. Your neighbors must hate that you have so many cars and trucks haha.
I don't keep track of the numbers anymore ..lol. All I know is I have a vehicle for whatever work I need to do like a GMC Dually if I need to yank someone's house and tear it down, an SUV if I go for a long trip , a truck if I want to go mudding , another truck or suv to haul a trailer, a Benz if I need a car aside from my 8 x 2jzgte toys, etc. Heck , I have a neighbor in one of my place that is a menace. I think it is because of jealousy. He calls the city cops on me when a number of my vehicles are on my driveway since in that place the rule is only 4 on your driveway and the rest should be inside a closed garage. It drives him nuts whenever he sees specially my MKIVs out there like this pictured below . When I know he had passed in front of my place going to work , I put the MKIVs back inside the garage, hahaha. I just **** him off all the more cause I don't understand why he needs to call the cops on me just because I have so many vehicles. The cops come and just tell me , "man .. you got a very jealous neighbor around here. we have to come just to say that we have done our job but truly you haven't done anything wrong. " The cops are now good friends of mine and thanks to my neighbor. One of the cops had saved my *** in one of my really bad speeding tickets . I called him after someone stopped me because I was traveling 90mph on a 35mph street . Some guys just do not have anything good to do but cause trouble because of jealousy. That is the main problem in our society. We love to poke our noses in places where we should not be. It starts up there in our government. We spend millions of dollars in places waging wars or meddling in other countries' affair when we have so many hungry people in our own place that we need to feed. Then in our neighborhoods ... meddling with our neighbors affairs causing troubles even if they haven't really done anything wrong.

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Originally Posted by 97-SC300
How many families and people live in that house lol. What do you have gerrb like 20 vehicles on the lot? That's more than some used car dealerships around here.
Well , didn't I tell you I own a dealership , hahaha , j/k . It can become lonely when only you and your wife live in a place since all your kids are all grown ups and have their own life now so I keep myself busy with my toys. Hey , I haven't really indulged myself in a lot of toys until I knew I was done sending my kids into their Universities. Now that they are grown ups , time for dad to play like a kid.

Well I move my vehicles around now in my different places so they are not all in one place or I will be in big trouble. My neighbors will hate me if they see all of them in one place. For those who knows me they know how many vehicles I have . Let us just say , I am not the ordinary guy when it comes to vehicle ownership. Just enjoying the fruits of my hard work when I was younger .

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Old 06-01-16, 09:19 AM
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So Gerry I see your cars all have different types of Standalone ECU..

Can you comment on which of them you like the best..and for what reasons why?

Im sure each has its Plus and Minuses
Old 06-01-16, 10:06 AM
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Am about to try MOTEC on my current build , the Black Pearl. It is supposed to be the cream of the crop as per my conversation with many well known MKIV builders. But it is the most expensive though .

With regards what I currently have , ProEFI hands down is the best. First , it is the only ECU right now that properly controls a built Automatic transmission. Most of the other ECUs cannot control an auto trans or if they can like the AEM V2 / V1... not properly. Then it also has the most or best features in my opinion . Like I like a lot its fail safe features which will help you protect your investments . Not saying the rest do not have ... I said it has the best without the price point of MOTEC. The only thing I don't like with ProEFI is its software interface layout which has nothing to do with the way it controls your car.

If you have spent tons of money on your engine , having a good ECU that will protect your engine should be someone's next investment and ProEFI gets my vote. Though it is more expensive compared to AEM Infinity , V2 or V1 , Haltech .

One thing one has to consider in choosing an ECU is.... it is only as good as your tuner . If your tuner do not work with the kind of ECU you get then its features won't be maximized . So talk to your tuner if you don't do your own tuning. Rather , if you get a particular ECU , make sure your tuner is really good with that ECU.

For those who do have a manual transmission , if you don't want to spend tons , AEM V2 is good enough . The only thing with it is, AEM had stopped all software / firmware / hardware upgrades on the AEM V2 . They are pushing more the AEM Infinity. A lot of the AEM V1s now are very old , been over used so getting one second hand takes a lot of risk . AEM do not support the V1s anymore, period. It is easy to navigate around the AEM software interface. I have tinkered a lot with my Haltech ECU so I like it next to my ProEFI considering its features.

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Old 06-04-16, 06:43 AM
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I finally was able to weld all my fittings on my Black Pearl fuel tank. As you all know , I am just learning how to weld. Doing it myself not only help me save tons that I can divert to go fast goodies but also having the skills can come very handy if you love to tinker with your car. It is not hard , just needs a lot of practice and the right equipments.

The welds were not that pretty being a learner in welding but am pretty sure they were welded well and are not going anywhere. For double insurance from leaking if ever it turns up side down or the car lays on its side in an accident , I applied JB steel weld all around the fittings then to make the tank a bit presentable even if this will be hidden , I applied bondo and now am hand sanding , which I hate most , then paint the gas tank black .

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Old 06-04-16, 10:59 AM
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painted the gas tank

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Time to assemble the +1500rwhp capable fuel system ..... the triple densos , feed and return lines for both weldon and denso pumps. You can only get two pumps in through the front opening and have to assemble the third inside the gas tank.

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Old 06-04-16, 03:28 PM
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This is a proof that 3 Denso pumps will easily fit inside the slosh tank of the SC300 / SC400 fuel tank. You don't need a special hanger that will cost you at least $400 to have multiple pumps. But if you have the funds to buy an aftermarket hanger then lucky you. For us who do not have that money to spare , your stock hanger will work . You will have to isolate each pump's body from every other pump by having rubber in between each. Make sure the rubber or hoses or electrical wiring you use will withstand gasoline or alcohol for those using E85.

You need to get all the wiring done before putting in the pumps. All you have to do once they are all in is clamp the 3rd pump to the two which were already clamped together when you put them into the tank.

Instead of using hard tubes , decided to use PTFE lines so they are flexible inside . It is kinda busy inside that slosh tank so I need to be able to move things around easily.

-10an return line on the left for the whole system and -12an feed line for the Weldon 2345a

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This is how they will be positioned inside the slosh tank. The return line will be on the upper right corner of the slosh tank and the Weldon feed will be at the lower right corner behind the pumps hanger. Don't let your tank sit around empty in different weather temperatures. Humidity / Condensation will initiate surface rusts. Need to get this going by tomorrow , fill it up so I can restart the car again.

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3 denso pumps that are already wired are in ... all I have to do is clamp the 3rd with the other two. You will need the help of someone with a smaller hand / arms so he / she can hold the 3rd pump with the clamp through the fuel level sender opening while you tighten the clamp for all the three through the main fuel pump opening. The dang edges of that fuel sender opening is very sharp so you need somebody with really small hands / arms . Once they are all tightened up and hanger bolted to the tank , all the denso filters are on one side of the slosh tank where as the return and feed of Weldon are on the other side of the slosh tank. You want the return line not to be near the denso pump filters so no air packets can be absorbed by the pumps that can cause cavitations .

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Old 06-05-16, 10:32 AM
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It was tough since I didn't have help with smaller arms / hands to get through the fuel sender opening . It took a while but managed to clamp all the three together using the front fuel tank opening

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Better pictures of how they are seated inside the slosh tank . You might be wondering why I have two positive wires per pump. It is just part of my being **** about stuff inside a fuel gas tank. I wanted to make sure the wires can handle the amperage at full power since the Denso TT pumps are known to use a lot of current. I hate to have any wire overheating . Every Denso Pump together with the Weldon 2345a will have its own relay so I can turn on and off any of them through the ECU. After I had my afternoon nap , I will install the tank back in the Black Pearl so I can fill it up with fuel again and get the car running again.

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Old 06-05-16, 10:38 AM
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As always Gerrb that looks great �������� that car is going to fly when your done ��������
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Originally Posted by Idlefree
As always Gerrb that looks great �������� that car is going to fly when your done ��������
thanks buddy ... just trying to give Black Pearl the best 2jz setup it can get being a rare 97 5speed


The fuel tank is back where it belongs ... still need to wire in 4 relays, one for each pump . Didn't have time today . It was kinda hard tightening those fittings using a huge wrench with a very limited space.

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Old 06-05-16, 03:49 PM
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What a work of art. "Mad scientist "
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Originally Posted by Maximo018
What a work of art. "Mad scientist "
Ssshhhh ... it's my mobile Moonshine Still . Remember I will be processing a lot of corn and distilling it...ton's of it . This car will run better when it is drunk with E85 !

Finally got my tank cover back after wiring the four relays , one for each pump. There are two things I still want to do inside the trunk.

a) Take out the stock amplifier / disc changer and relocate my battery and fuse box. Anyway , later on , I have plans of installing a nice music system with twin subs occupying the rear seats ... rear seat delete , after all the damn rear seats are useless.

b) Replace the 5 lbs NX Express nitrous bottle with another 10 lbs so I have twins NX Express 10 lbs and get a dual nitrous bottle bracket. That will look better .

Relocating the fusebox and battery will eventually make my engine bay look cleaner and less cluttered. I want the beauty of the stroker VVTi setup with its direct port nitrous setup to shine kinda like my Red Mamba One with its hard stainless nitrous lines. I want the car to look good , clean and all functional... not necessarily show quality. I have bad experience in making every part of the car show quality when I used to have that 3000GT Spyder. Well I had 3 of them at one time . When you make them spotless or immaculate looking or everything like new, you are tempted to use them less cause you don't want them getting dirty and they become garage queens ... only used in shows until you get tired of it and sell it and somebody else benefits. It is like paying for a nice boob job for your girl friend and all you do is look at them then someone else benefits when you break up. I don't want my SCs to be that way. Rain or shine I should not hesitate to use and enjoy them .

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And to bring all that corn syrup (E85) and laughing gas (N2O) from the rear to the engine bay , there are two -10AN PTFE Feed lines and two -4AN Nitrous Feed lines and one -10AN PTFE return line

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Old 06-08-16, 08:47 AM
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geezeeeeussss christ that's an insane setup.

hope all has been well sir
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This thing in the rain? you better have a 300 series tire lol
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Lol. Moonshine
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For those asking how the pumps were wired and how are they controlled .......

For each of the 4 pumps (3 Denso TT & 1 Weldon 2345a) :

Ignition Switched Battery Voltage -> Relay Coil Pin 86 -> Relay Coil Pin 85 -> ECU Switched Ground if all conditions are met

Note : ECU controls the conditions when the relay coil should be energized thus controls when the pump goes on-line or off-line ... e.g. Boost Pressure and a lot other possible conditions based on the features of your ECU.



When the coil of the relay is energized , pump goes online .

Battery Voltage - > Fuse -> Relay Switch Pin 30 -> Relay Switch Pin 87 -> Pump -> Ground


Here is the wiring I did for my 3 Denso Pumps and Weldon 2345a that is now installed . I actually used 5 relays since two were for the Weldon 2345a for better control (ordinary / race mode with the 14000 controller)

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