fans of AM radio, lament
03-13-23, 12:54 AM
#46
I’ll agree about satellite radio….with my Sirius XM account, I haven’t listened to FM either….it’s been years. I can’t comment on streaming because I haven’t tried it, but, from your comment, you seem to be quite satisfied with it.
In fact, that reminds me of a joke…….”Get Sirius, and don’t kid around”
In fact, that reminds me of a joke…….”Get Sirius, and don’t kid around”
The problem with satellite radio is that the audio quality is low, it's markedly inferior to FM and even more so when compared to HD radio. The bitrate of satellite audio transmissions is almost laughably low, and while it's OK for talk radio it's absolutely unsuitable for music IMO. It's solvable if you stream satellite audio via the SiriusXM app, that has a few streaming quality options and all of them are better than the standard satellite option. The only reason I have satellite radio is because there are a few channels I like and because they will offer the service for very low cost if you talk to retention.
100% in agreement.
Clearly very few people feel that way because they have removed CD players from basically every car.
In any event, it’s not “doing something on your phone” it’s controlled through the car, CarPlay or the car’s native audio system. The data is just coming from your phone. Other than having a bunch of CDs already that you don’t want to copy to a phone or a drive, there is no reason to use CDs. Your phone just stays in your pocket if you’re using BT or plugs into the USB if you’re using the USB connection.
In any event, it’s not “doing something on your phone” it’s controlled through the car, CarPlay or the car’s native audio system. The data is just coming from your phone. Other than having a bunch of CDs already that you don’t want to copy to a phone or a drive, there is no reason to use CDs. Your phone just stays in your pocket if you’re using BT or plugs into the USB if you’re using the USB connection.
It must get exhausting having to deal with all that nonsense, with bluetooth connections, carplay, syncing accounts, playlists, and the whole nine yards.
03-13-23, 04:37 AM
#47
Super Moderator
03-13-23, 05:07 AM
#48
Lexus Champion
XM is pretty good, convenient, and cheap.
I'm not an audiophile so XM sounds just fine to me.
We don't need phones for EVERYTHING. Enough is enough.
100% in agreement.
As mentioned before, I have a big CD collection from years ago that continues to serve me well. This combined with my XM account suits me perfectly. No phones, no hookups, none of that. Just $60 paid annually (probably will go up a bit in June when it's time to threaten to cancel then they come at me with a great deal... love playing those guys) and no hassles with all that other stuff.
It must get exhausting having to deal with all that nonsense, with bluetooth connections, carplay, syncing accounts, playlists, and the whole nine yards.
I'm not an audiophile so XM sounds just fine to me.
We don't need phones for EVERYTHING. Enough is enough.
100% in agreement.
As mentioned before, I have a big CD collection from years ago that continues to serve me well. This combined with my XM account suits me perfectly. No phones, no hookups, none of that. Just $60 paid annually (probably will go up a bit in June when it's time to threaten to cancel then they come at me with a great deal... love playing those guys) and no hassles with all that other stuff.
It must get exhausting having to deal with all that nonsense, with bluetooth connections, carplay, syncing accounts, playlists, and the whole nine yards.
03-13-23, 05:46 AM
#50
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It must get exhausting having to deal with all that nonsense,
with bluetooth connections, carplay, syncing accounts, playlists, and the whole nine yards.
after that, it's all just done. forever.
so no 'whole nine yards' lol.
03-13-23, 06:02 AM
#51
Lexus Champion
If you enjoy listening to the same 6 CDs over and over, and having to think ahead about what CDs you will want to listen to later when loading the changer, more power to you. The fact that these have mostly gone away tells you that you are in the minority, and most people don't want to listen to music this way anymore.
03-13-23, 06:30 AM
#52
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03-13-23, 06:46 AM
#53
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03-13-23, 06:59 AM
#54
Lexus Fanatic
03-13-23, 07:13 AM
#55
Lexus Fanatic
Also, exactly. It makes perfect sense that carmakers don't offer CD players anymore, very few people still listen to CDs and there is no buyer demand for one. If people were pissed off that their cars didnt have CD players they would reverse course.
Whats frustrating is when people say CDs are better or easier when they don't know how streaming works...because they aren't better or easier.
I don't have an issue with you having the outlook you do, its the fact that you act like you are somehow ordinary and everybody else is unusual for not being stressed by technology and actually liking and using it. If you would just say "technology just stresses me out, I try to limit it" nobody would argue with you, instead you say "technology is evil and it ruins everybodys life, you people are just mindless lemmings for using it"....see the difference?
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03-13-23, 07:25 AM
#56
Super Moderator
So just like it made sense for the senior-targeted SC430 to be the final production vehicle from any manufacturer to have a factory tape deck, I'm not terribly surprised that the LX refresh features a CD player.
03-13-23, 07:26 AM
#57
Lexus Champion
High priced cars typically have more cutting edge tech features that take a while to trickle down to more affordable cars. Saying it's disappointing that those models don't offer CD players is like saying it's disappointing that they don't offer hand-crank windows...
03-13-23, 07:28 AM
#58
Lexus Fanatic
you’ve lost me.
03-13-23, 07:43 AM
#59
Lexus Fanatic
I suspect that's a buyer demographics thing. Lexus as a brand skews slightly older than the market as a whole (average age of 56 for new Lexus buyers, vs. 53 for all brands), and I suspect the LX is way towards the older end of the spectrum within the brand (as opposed to, say the UX, NX, or IS). Older buyers are much more likely to seek out technologies that were supplanted decades ago--like AM radio and CD players--when compared with younger buyers.
So just like it made sense for the senior-targeted SC430 to be the final production vehicle from any manufacturer to have a factory tape deck, I'm not terribly surprised that the LX refresh features a CD player.
So just like it made sense for the senior-targeted SC430 to be the final production vehicle from any manufacturer to have a factory tape deck, I'm not terribly surprised that the LX refresh features a CD player.
03-13-23, 07:52 AM
#60
I suspect that's a buyer demographics thing. Lexus as a brand skews slightly older than the market as a whole (average age of 56 for new Lexus buyers, vs. 53 for all brands), and I suspect the LX is way towards the older end of the spectrum within the brand (as opposed to, say the UX, NX, or IS). Older buyers are much more likely to seek out technologies that were supplanted decades ago--like AM radio and CD players--when compared with younger buyers.