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Old 03-14-23 | 08:54 AM
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Not surprised by this. When I was casually shopping last year I was told by the Porsche dealer that I needed to add options totaling ~25% of its MSRP in order to be granted an allocation. Used Porsches for me in the future then.
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Porsche will impose “significant price increases” on its cars in the middle of this year to keep its profits high, its chief financial officer has told investors. The Volkswagen Group-owned company also said it would price its future electric versions of the Porsche Macan, Porsche 718 Boxster and Porsche Cayenne 10-15% higher than ICE versions, which will remain on sale. Porsche’s sports car range currently starts at £47,700 for the 718, while the cheapest four-door is the entry Macan, starting at £50,800 in the UK. Finance head Lutz Meschke made the pricing announcements on a call with analysts to reassure them that Porsche can continue to build on 2022’s strong operating profits of €6.8 billion (£6bn) in 2022 with an 18% return on sales.Porsche aims to hit a 20% return “in the long term” as part of its Road-to-20 strategy.

“We will see significant price increases in the middle of the year for the new model year. That will help a lot to make sure we make strong group operating margins,” Meschke said. Porsche is currently in the middle of a spending push to invest in new EVs that have raised its R&D and capital expenditures to a higher level than it would ideally like. Those expenditures would “peak” in 2023/2024, Meschke said. The increased cost of EVs is also weighing on the brand as it shifts towards its goal of 50% electric and plug-in hybrid sales by 2025 and 80% electric sales by 2030.

“We set ourselves a very ambitious goal when it comes to group return on sales of 17-19% in the mid-term, and that means we have to reach parity between BEV and ICE as soon as possible, otherwise this forecast wouldn’t work,” Meschke said. The electric Macan will go on sale in 2024, with the electric 718 and Cayenne following “in the middle of the decade”. A larger electric SUV dubbed K1 – based on the new Porsche-developed Sport version of the Volkswagen Group's new SSP platform – will arrive after that. Meschke said that the 10-15% price increase for the EV versions of the Macan, Boxster and Cayenne is “a huge factor on the turnover side” of Porsche’s ambitious targets.

Porsche believes customers would accept higher prices across the board.

“We have a very good foundation with a very strong brand and a very strong customer base that gives us the power to increase prices in very challenging times and in an intelligent manner,” Meschke said. Porsche added that the price increases for the Cayenne will coincide with a major overhaul for the SUV. The changes will include a larger battery for PHEV models to increase electric-only range to 80km (50 miles), Porsche CEO Oliver Blume said on the same call.

Porsche to raise prices significantly to sustain 2022 profits | Autocar
Old 03-14-23 | 08:58 AM
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Not surprised.

Significant costs incurred by electrification require retail prices to be increased if margins are to be kept wide

I have said it so many times. going green will be more expensive. Prepare to pay higher electric charing costs at some point.
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Originally Posted by TangoRed
Not surprised by this. When I was casually shopping last year I was told by the Porsche dealer that I needed to add options totaling ~25% of its MSRP in order to be granted an allocation.


Doesn't "options totaling 25% of MSRP" basically mean leather, power seats, and headlights?
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Originally Posted by geko29

Doesn't "options totaling 25% of MSRP" basically mean leather, power seats, and headlights?
LOL you're not wrong

EDIT: I will add that the concern here was buying an expensive model to start if I wanted a better chance of getting my hands on a special model someday like one of the many special variants of the 911.

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guess i won't ever be getting a porsche then
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
guess i won't ever be getting a porsche then
Exactly what I was thinking.
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Its not about $$$ at this point - there are ZERO new 911s on sale in the USA.
Not sure what is happening with their production.

Cayman / Boxster are also impossible to get…..
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Originally Posted by LexsCTJill
Not surprised.




I have said it so many times. going green will be more expensive. Prepare to pay higher electric charing costs at some point.
I think you are misreading the quote. I believe what they're saying is the costs to manufacture EV's is expensive, so they are raising prices on ICE cars to keep margins where they need them. It's not that "going green is more expensive" - in this case, it's an auto maker saying them offering EV's is increasing the sticker for ICE cars as well.
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Originally Posted by jrmckinley
I think you are misreading the quote. I believe what they're saying is the costs to manufacture EV's is expensive, so they are raising prices on ICE cars to keep margins where they need them. It's not that "going green is more expensive" - in this case, it's an auto maker saying them offering EV's is increasing the sticker for ICE cars as well.
The price on EVs will also increase

price its future electric versions of the Porsche Macan, Porsche 718 Boxster and Porsche Cayenne 10-15% higher than ICE versions,
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Considering that Porsche has the highest Average Transaction Prices in the business south of Bentley + already thats really something...in 2022 their ATP was over $110k.
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
guess i won't ever be getting a porsche then
The company doesn't care.....they have always been a low-volume manufacturer anyway. They make their money, not from sales-numbers, but from the MSRPs and high profits per vehicle.

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Future electric versions... I honestly can't wait to see what their interpretation of a mid/rear-"engined" EV would be. Can't really have the lowest center of gravity without a flat bottom pack - they can theoretically shift it out to the back, but making it beyond the rear axle...

We'll see. Anyways, genuinely curious how this'll play out.
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Unsurprising, EVs always need some sort of subsidy to compete and Porsche is Porsche and can charge whatever they want for a 911!
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
guess i won't ever be getting a porsche then
I'm getting a used one.
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The Model S has a subsidy? Damn, I missed that one.... 🙄🤦

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Unsurprising, EVs always need some sort of subsidy to compete and Porsche is Porsche and can charge whatever they want for a 911!



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