March & 1st Quarter 2023 Sales Thread
04-08-23, 07:56 PM
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dealer adms hurt the manufacturers if they can supply more.
04-08-23, 08:45 PM
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04-08-23, 09:09 PM
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04-08-23, 09:35 PM
#34
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That's the real problem....the manufacturers, rather than the dealers. If the manufacturers had not cut back production so much, ADMs would not be much of an issue except for a very few vehicles. Two or three years ago, the manufacturers (perhaps validly) used the excuse of computer-chip shortages to justify the cutbacks. But, today, chip-shortages aren't that much of an issue anymore, yet the manufacturers still have not resumed normal production. It looks, at least on the surface, like production is deliberately and needlessly being kept down in an effort to keep prices high.
04-09-23, 06:51 AM
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That's the real problem....the manufacturers, rather than the dealers. If the manufacturers had not cut back production so much, ADMs would not be much of an issue except for a very few vehicles. Two or three years ago, the manufacturers (perhaps validly) used the excuse of computer-chip shortages to justify the cutbacks. But, today, chip-shortages aren't that much of an issue anymore, yet the manufacturers still have not resumed normal production. It looks, at least on the surface, like production is deliberately and needlessly being kept down in an effort to keep prices high.
04-09-23, 07:46 AM
#36
The manufacturers are producing less cars at higher profits - and they like it that way. The government wants them to produce less ICE cars anyway, look at the new EPA regulations coming out this week. That's the end for ICE. The funny part is that for GM and Ford, nobody is going to want their EVs, they make all their profits off large ICE trucks and SUVs, and when they can no longer sell those, they are going bankrupt. Who survives this shakeup, who knows. Clearly Tesla and BYD will dominate the future auto market. The premium names will survive because of their brand image, but the "run of the mill" brands are going to be in big trouble.
04-09-23, 08:11 PM
#37
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When every Toyota dealer is slapping ADM's or force you to buy some kind of protection package to get what you want, it just forces people to look at other brands. I just dont understand how Tesla can churn out millions EVs with huge batteries but Toyota cant churn out a minivan with a battery perhaps 1/10th the size. Makes no sense to me other than Toyota deliberately limiting supply to increase profit margins at the expense of volume.
04-09-23, 08:13 PM
#38
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The manufacturers are producing less cars at higher profits - and they like it that way. The government wants them to produce less ICE cars anyway, look at the new EPA regulations coming out this week. That's the end for ICE. The funny part is that for GM and Ford, nobody is going to want their EVs, they make all their profits off large ICE trucks and SUVs, and when they can no longer sell those, they are going bankrupt. Who survives this shakeup, who knows. Clearly Tesla and BYD will dominate the future auto market. The premium names will survive because of their brand image, but the "run of the mill" brands are going to be in big trouble.
04-11-23, 06:04 AM
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04-11-23, 06:42 AM
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My guess is that behind the scenes, Ford and GM have been promised government bailouts. The retiree plans will be bailed out, the current line workers will quietly be laid off, and both companies will just become shells that don't manufacture much, but sell China made EVs under US brand names.
04-11-23, 08:27 AM
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My guess is that behind the scenes, Ford and GM have been promised government bailouts. The retiree plans will be bailed out, the current line workers will quietly be laid off, and both companies will just become shells that don't manufacture much, but sell China made EVs under US brand names.
04-11-23, 12:02 PM
#42
My guess is that behind the scenes, Ford and GM have been promised government bailouts. The retiree plans will be bailed out, the current line workers will quietly be laid off, and both companies will just become shells that don't manufacture much, but sell China made EVs under US brand names.
04-11-23, 12:37 PM
#43
Private sector union membership in the US is tiny in numbers, most US union members work for the government. Unions have zero political clout anymore in the US, they are all employed in states like MI that are already solidly in the (D) column. The retiree plans will be bailed out like they were the last time. Forced electrification benefits Tesla and China, that's not going to change.
04-13-23, 10:07 AM
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https://media.mbusa.com/releases/rel...75701-vehicles
Mercedes-Benz USA reports Q1 2023 total sales of 75,701 vehicles
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- Electric Vehicles (EQ) sales growth of +251% in Q1 2023 compared to Q1 in 2022 with 7,341 units.
- Electric Vehicle lineup comprises 12% of overall passenger vehicle sales in Q1 2023.
- Strong Top-End segment up by 18% with 24,572 units.
- Mercedes-AMG 55% growth in Q1 2023 compared to the same quarter last year.
"Strong demand and customer desire for our newly introduced EQ models as well as Top-End vehicles combined to propel our results in the first quarter. We expect to further strengthen our position in the luxury SUV segment with the all-new EQE SUV, our second fully-electric SUV built in Alabama, and the upcoming all-electric Mercedes-Maybach EQS SUV."
Dimitris Psillakis, President and CEO of Mercedes-Benz USA
Top-End:
Sales in the Top-End segment rose to 24,572 units an increase of 18% in Q1 2023 compared to Q1 2022. Sales for Mercedes-AMG high-performance models totalled 10,818 units, an increase of 55% versus Q1 2022. Demand for the G-Class remains consistently high with sales up 40% from the comparable quarter in 2022, with 2,682 units. The fully electric EQS SUV posted 2,413 units Q1 2023.
Core:
Sales in the Core segment reached 25,346 units. Sales of the C-class and CLA saw dramatic increases at the start of 2023. With numerous innovations and upgraded standard equipment, the CLA saw an increase of +138% compared to Q1 2022 with 2,530 units sold. The C-Class sold 7,464 units in Q1 2023, which is an 1,411% increase from Q1 2022. The fully electric EQE Sedan attracted 1,308 new customers in Q1 2023.
Entry:
Sales in the Entry segment reached 11,613 units. Released in summer 2022, the fully electric EQB recorded 1,537 unit sales, leading the way for entry-level EQ and a 64% increase from Q4 2022. Both, the GLB and GLA saw strong demand in Q1 2023. GLB sales totalled 4,302 units, an increase of 22% to the comparable quarter last year, and GLA sales totalled 4,250 units, an increase of 74% to the comparable quarter last year.
Separately, Mercedes-Benz Certified Pre-Owned (MBCPO) models recorded sales of 33,973 vehicles during the first quarter of 2023, an increase of 3% versus Q1 2022.
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About Mercedes-Benz
Mercedes-Benz USA (MBUSA), headquartered in Atlanta, is responsible for the distribution, marketing and customer service for all Mercedes-Benz products in the United States. MBUSA offers drivers the most diverse line-up in the luxury segment with 18 model lines ranging from the sporty GLA SUV to the flagship S-Class and the dynamic all-electric Mercedes-EQ family. MBUSA is also responsible for Mercedes-Benz Vans in the U.S. More information on MBUSA and its products can be found at www.mbusa.com and www.mbvans.com.
Accredited journalists can visit our media site at media.mbusa.com.
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04-14-23, 05:58 AM
#45
The G class aside - alot of these AMG purchases are coming because you cannot get a Porsche without a near 2 year wait, they are losing sales to MB because they can't produce enough cars.
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