Lexus TX
05-13-23, 07:12 PM
#47
Lexus Fanatic
Thats not the TX, thats a new Infiniti QX60.
Which is an incredibly nice vehicle, by the way. Its on my list for sure.
Which is an incredibly nice vehicle, by the way. Its on my list for sure.
05-13-23, 07:13 PM
#48
Lexus Fanatic
05-14-23, 05:27 AM
#49
Lexus Test Driver
05-14-23, 08:44 AM
#50
Lexus Fanatic
The point is every vehicle with a black d pillar is not trying to look like a Range Rover.
05-14-23, 11:27 AM
#51
Lexus Test Driver
05-14-23, 12:04 PM
#52
Lexus Fanatic
This vehicle is not trying to look like a Range Rover:
05-14-23, 12:12 PM
#53
I totally disagree- the black D-pillar is a Range Rover design signature. Lexus and everyone else added that in there because they were conscious of that as an "upscale design feature" thanks to its association with Range Rover. Just like the lettering on front of the hood.
Even as a Ford guy, I can see the Range Rover influence is not missed and that old Explorer introduced in 1990, borrowed from it too.
The lines of QX60, Aviator, and etc clearly borrowed from RR. They didn't copy each other, but definitely had a central target they all benchmarked likely and ended up at the same place.
That being said, kind of off-topic when the QX60 is not a Lexus, but this definitely isn't your fault.
05-14-23, 12:18 PM
#54
Lexus Fanatic
Thank you, don't even be swayed from your perspective. I entirely agree with you. Unfortunately a number of people on this forum just seem to think everything they say is the final answer and there's no room for other possibilities, when it's a matter of mere opinion against a timeline of facts. (I tend to mind my business and ignore...)
Even as a Ford guy, I can see the Range Rover influence is not missed and that old Explorer introduced in 1990, borrowed from it too.
The lines of QX60, Aviator, and etc clearly borrowed from RR. They didn't copy each other, but definitely had a central target they all benchmarked likely and ended up at the same place.
05-14-23, 12:33 PM
#55
@SW17LS To be honest, that's not really really accurate. I am rarely wrong about many things, one would have to nitpick very carefully on that. I would need a solid record of that to believe it as often. To measure it against fact and fiction.
Re-reading what I just typed, I am sorry if that came out coldly, but I just get the impression Motorola is sometimes uncomfortable sharing their opinion at times and gets backed into a corner.
I meant that generally, in terms of the responses they get all around on subject matter, which often puts Motorola on the defensive. I mind my business generally, to not add to an argument and make it spiral out of control.
I can't really keep up with daily forum discussion, so while I say too much, I'm rarely logged in? I don't know how everyone else does it regularly. I pretty much keep to myself.
Re-reading what I just typed, I am sorry if that came out coldly, but I just get the impression Motorola is sometimes uncomfortable sharing their opinion at times and gets backed into a corner.
I meant that generally, in terms of the responses they get all around on subject matter, which often puts Motorola on the defensive. I mind my business generally, to not add to an argument and make it spiral out of control.
I can't really keep up with daily forum discussion, so while I say too much, I'm rarely logged in? I don't know how everyone else does it regularly. I pretty much keep to myself.
05-14-23, 12:38 PM
#56
Lexus Fanatic
@SW17LS To be honest, that's not really really accurate. I am rarely wrong about many things, one would have to nitpick very carefully on that. I would need a solid record of that to believe it as often. To measure it against fact and fiction.
Re-reading what I just typed, I am sorry if that came out coldly, but I just get the impression Motorola is sometimes uncomfortable sharing their opinion at times and gets backed into a corner.
I meant that generally, in terms of the responses they get all around on subject matter, which often puts Motorola on the defensive. I mind my business generally, to not add to an argument and make it spiral out of control.
I can't really keep up with daily forum discussion, so while I say too much, I'm rarely logged in? I don't know how everyone else does it regularly. I pretty much keep to myself.
Re-reading what I just typed, I am sorry if that came out coldly, but I just get the impression Motorola is sometimes uncomfortable sharing their opinion at times and gets backed into a corner.
I meant that generally, in terms of the responses they get all around on subject matter, which often puts Motorola on the defensive. I mind my business generally, to not add to an argument and make it spiral out of control.
I can't really keep up with daily forum discussion, so while I say too much, I'm rarely logged in? I don't know how everyone else does it regularly. I pretty much keep to myself.
Worry about yourself and how you post, you literally described yourself in your characterization of everybody else.
05-14-23, 01:03 PM
#58
Lexus Test Driver
I appreciate it but I think I can speak for myself. There's no need to get personal over a black D pillar lol.
Neither is the TX but it, the Infiniti, and a boatlaod of other vehicles sure as heck wants that association. Like the Ford, it was a decision fully conscious of the design signature of the Range Rover and what it represented (prestige). Black D pillar is a Range Rover design signature, like the kidney grilles of a BMW- that's really not up for debate.
Neither is the TX but it, the Infiniti, and a boatlaod of other vehicles sure as heck wants that association. Like the Ford, it was a decision fully conscious of the design signature of the Range Rover and what it represented (prestige). Black D pillar is a Range Rover design signature, like the kidney grilles of a BMW- that's really not up for debate.
05-14-23, 01:29 PM
#59
Nor do I err on the side of getting things wrong "very often". Some people might have their own one-sided issues with me and frankly I don't make it my business. I keep it moving and if you do make it a public matter, I will tell you off rightfully.
Getting a few things wrong recently, somehow gives you the license to claim "very often". I actually know what I do get wrong and keep a mental record of it. They are small stuff that I can count on one hand, save for only 1 big thing related to a non-Lexus vehicle in the 2024 Tacoma. And why did I meet *that* issue? Bad secondhand insight, from (formerly) trusted people over a short, but recent period of time and ignoring my intuition.
I'm not impressed with MB decisions lately and my ignorance of EQ models' future in relation to the lineup, being casually shared as a worry, is not a statement of fact. You know that very well and I already addressed it.
The most recent correction from an aloof user regarding Toyota HQ events, was a guess of mine, not a statement of fact. Otherwise, I see nothing else wrong I've stated at all on this forum recently. If someone cannot provide proof of "wrong very often", then it's slander.
Many of you CL users, seem to believe you have the floor to comment on whatever you wish to, while those of us who are not so regular like me, should just stay silent and nary a comment be made.
If I disagree with something stated and feel it paints a false narrative, I comment. Is anyone else different in that regard? No. Am I lengthy about it? Yes.
There's an unspoken frostiness I observe, but that's the issue of whomever holds it. I do a very good *job* of keeping things accurate as possible, as that's my main mantra. Picking at a literal few mistakes of mine, would be laughably slanted.
I do not like strife and unnecessary confrontation. I would rather this doesn't continue to go in this direction.
Last edited by Carmaker1; 05-14-23 at 01:51 PM. Reason: Typo with "job"
05-14-23, 01:40 PM
#60
Lexus Fanatic
Then why not stop posting here if the place is so terrible? We won’t miss you.