Where Did They All Go, No Love for Wagons?
#16
Lexus Fanatic
#18
Lexus Test Driver
Thread Starter
A gift from my grand parents for my 16th birthday but my dad said no.
I was mad at first because that meant riding the bus a few more months but daaaaaang it was ugly and in beater condition too.
PS- my first car wasn't so big but still an ugly beater, story for another day. Lol 😂
#19
Lead Lap
I'm a big wagon fan. It'll be tough to decide whether I should get a used W213 E63 wagon when I start my family or go for an SUV.
That's actually a pre-facelift (so 2017-2020) W213 E-class in that picture. The brand new W214 E-class wagon that will be coming to our shores within the next year looks like this:
Hi Club Lexus friends!
Inspired by post in General Car Chat, I thought it would be cool to make a thread about wagons since I just learned they still do exist.
Almost never see them anymore and when I do, they're very old.
No love for Wagons anymore?
It's all about the SUV now?
Which is better?
<Spoiler alert> I like wagons. lol
Here's the new Mercedes E-Class wagon and probably deserving of it's own thread but yes, they still make them.
Full specs, source
Inspired by post in General Car Chat, I thought it would be cool to make a thread about wagons since I just learned they still do exist.
Almost never see them anymore and when I do, they're very old.
No love for Wagons anymore?
It's all about the SUV now?
Which is better?
<Spoiler alert> I like wagons. lol
Here's the new Mercedes E-Class wagon and probably deserving of it's own thread but yes, they still make them.
Full specs, source
#20
Lexus Champion
That's just because Subaru has tricked all their customers by raising the suspension so they don't think of these cars as wagons. That's why there's no Legacy wagon version anymore.
#21
Lexus Champion
#22
Lexus Champion
Ok ya'll don't laugh but this was ALMOST my first car, except in faded red. Lol
A gift from my grand parents for my 16th birthday but my dad said no.
I was mad at first because that meant riding the bus a few more months but daaaaaang it was ugly and in beater condition too.
PS- my first car wasn't so big but still an ugly beater, story for another day. Lol 😂
A gift from my grand parents for my 16th birthday but my dad said no.
I was mad at first because that meant riding the bus a few more months but daaaaaang it was ugly and in beater condition too.
PS- my first car wasn't so big but still an ugly beater, story for another day. Lol 😂
#24
Lexus Test Driver
the wagon is popular in europe but i feel that's largely out of necessity... unfortunately though over here the wagon just isn't sexy, especially considering we generally think of something like this when we hear wagon:
i've even heard it said that the wagon is "too liberal" lol
wagon styling is generally ungainly, the only cars i think that look "right" as wagons are the subaru outback and some of the volvos
michael schumacher once owned an E55 AMG wagon and if that's not an endorsement idk what is haha
i've even heard it said that the wagon is "too liberal" lol
wagon styling is generally ungainly, the only cars i think that look "right" as wagons are the subaru outback and some of the volvos
michael schumacher once owned an E55 AMG wagon and if that's not an endorsement idk what is haha
#26
Lexus Test Driver
Thread Starter
I would've been happy to drive anything vs riding that bus.
Riding the bus= not cool
Have any kind of car = cool, because now all your friends want a ride too! haha
Good golly that's hard to look at.
Guessing nobody is missing that one but somebody loved it. lol
Yeah, I don't do snow and cold either, thus the reason I really don't need AWD or an SUV for that matter.
I do like the room on my RX330 on trips tho but it's really just a jacked up wagon with the back chopped off on a slant. lol
Wish they extended the rear and squared it up tho like a proper wagon so I can get more stuff in it for holiday travel.
#28
Lead Lap
But then I look at the actual C63 wagon and see the real difference:
#29
Lexus Fanatic
My issue with wagons for me is that we need the volume of a large vehicle. For stuff and being able to move around the cabin . If you're just comparing say something like a GLE or X5 to a wagon, then yeah the cargo space is about the same, theres no access to the back from the middle, the GLE or X5 has more height, but other than that....but when you compare it to what we would buy, a 3 row with captains chairs where accessing the back is very easy its a different story.
The height is also easier for loading kids and pets...
#30
Lexus Fanatic
That would be hard to imagine lol
My issue with wagons for me is that we need the volume of a large vehicle. For stuff and being able to move around the cabin . If you're just comparing say something like a GLE or X5 to a wagon, then yeah the cargo space is about the same, theres no access to the back from the middle, the GLE or X5 has more height, but other than that....but when you compare it to what we would buy, a 3 row with captains chairs where accessing the back is very easy its a different story.
The height is also easier for loading kids and pets...
My issue with wagons for me is that we need the volume of a large vehicle. For stuff and being able to move around the cabin . If you're just comparing say something like a GLE or X5 to a wagon, then yeah the cargo space is about the same, theres no access to the back from the middle, the GLE or X5 has more height, but other than that....but when you compare it to what we would buy, a 3 row with captains chairs where accessing the back is very easy its a different story.
The height is also easier for loading kids and pets...
Well, your wife, and her love of the Pacifica, is probably a typical example of why we don't see much in the way of traditional wagons in the U.S. any more. The demise of American wagons probably started in 1984 with the introduction of the first FWD Chrysler minivans (Voyager and Caravan), accelerated with the introduction of the top-selling truck-based Ford Explorer/Chevy Trailblazer and Jeep Grand Cherokee in the early 1990s, and continues today with medium-to-large car-based crossovers like the Chevrolet Traverse/Enclave, Dodge Durango, Kia Telluride/Hyundai Palisade, etc....
Last edited by mmarshall; 06-29-23 at 03:23 PM.