Where Did They All Go, No Love for Wagons?
#61
Lexus Champion
I'll take your word for it that it's an All-Road, but the low-stance actually makes it look more like a regular Avant wagon with Quattro AWD. Most of the All-Roads I remember sit a little higher than that, on a raised-suspension, somewhat like the Subaru Outback, Honda Crosstour, and Volvo XC-70 Cross-Country.
7-8ish inches from the floor to the car underside, this is at MAX height though. Rims are 20inch for reference....
#62
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I’m amazed by how high my S Class can raise itself.
#63
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#64
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I'll take a guess it would be for a car to fetch repair parts.
The Ford Powerstroke 7.3l diesel is probably as big an engine that someone would need to haul so if that fits, all is good. Lol
Just a wild guess.
Getting in and out of a wagon could be a chore tho.
The Ford Powerstroke 7.3l diesel is probably as big an engine that someone would need to haul so if that fits, all is good. Lol
Just a wild guess.
Getting in and out of a wagon could be a chore tho.
#65
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#66
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Sorry for triple post ya'll.
I messed up my multi quote on phone.
I'm really liking these Audis and Volvos
Dam that looks good
Is this full EV?
I messed up my multi quote on phone.
Dam that looks good
Is this full EV?
#67
Lexus Champion
That's the largest and heaviest item I will ever need to transport for work, I don't work on anything over an F350 class vehicle. Axles are lighter and easier to carry than a 7.3 and everything else is able to fit with ease.
I plan to replace the Jeep with a TDI Q7 and the wife will daily it due to MPG and winter, if I need to tow it will be used for that as well. Her car is one of the three I don't like stacking miles on as well....and she has hinted to me quite strongly I should replace her 460 with a 2nd W12 so we would absolutely need a daily for her.
I plan to replace the Jeep with a TDI Q7 and the wife will daily it due to MPG and winter, if I need to tow it will be used for that as well. Her car is one of the three I don't like stacking miles on as well....and she has hinted to me quite strongly I should replace her 460 with a 2nd W12 so we would absolutely need a daily for her.
#68
the road goes on forever
#69
Pole Position
A Vista Cruiser, or Buick sport wagon w/ a LS would do for me........
#70
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#71
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As I was thinking I never see any wagons anymore, I saw this one over the weekend.
Not sure the age but it's Mercedes and in clean condition.
Not sure the age but it's Mercedes and in clean condition.
#72
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#74
Out of Warranty
"Station wagons" are largely gone, replaced for the most part by SUV's, probably the hottest market segment going. Why? From my perspective, sheer utility and in some cases, even styling. I've had quite a few, and you can't beat the sheer "utility" of an SUV. Once the ugly stepchild of the market, SUV's have become more realistic in terms of appearance and performance than the old "stretched passenger car" of old.
Most of my adult life I've had to have an SUV - one that offers a reasonable amount of carrying and towing capacity, still on a manageable platform. Today's haulers are far more sophisticated than the Suburbans and Jeepsters of yore, Most of them now drive. ride, and handle well, without being a "truck" in the classic mode. They are actually respectable in today's suburbia . . moms and schoolteachers drive ;'em rather than just carpenters, farmers, and those seeking a more ''macho" appearance. Turns out, once you've owned an SUV, it's difficult to go back to the old 4-door sedan. It's a lot more, well, utilitarian. And many of them actually look pretty good.
Most of my adult life I've had to have an SUV - one that offers a reasonable amount of carrying and towing capacity, still on a manageable platform. Today's haulers are far more sophisticated than the Suburbans and Jeepsters of yore, Most of them now drive. ride, and handle well, without being a "truck" in the classic mode. They are actually respectable in today's suburbia . . moms and schoolteachers drive ;'em rather than just carpenters, farmers, and those seeking a more ''macho" appearance. Turns out, once you've owned an SUV, it's difficult to go back to the old 4-door sedan. It's a lot more, well, utilitarian. And many of them actually look pretty good.
Last edited by Lil4X; 07-10-23 at 11:11 AM.
#75
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Very close...but not quite. Minivans typically seat 3 across in the second row. Both the Mercedes R-Class (image below) and First-generation 2004-2008 Chrysler Pacifica sat 6 people, in 2+2+2 seating....although, to be fair, one could also say that about a minivan with second-row Captain's Chairs. Steve, I think, formerly had a Kia Sedona with Captain's Chairs.
(the smaller Mazda 5 people-mover also had 2+2+2 seating, but is not in the same league, size or price-wise, as the 1Gen Pacifica and R-Class)
(the smaller Mazda 5 people-mover also had 2+2+2 seating, but is not in the same league, size or price-wise, as the 1Gen Pacifica and R-Class)
Last edited by mmarshall; 07-10-23 at 11:47 AM.