Where Did They All Go, No Love for Wagons?
#1
Lexus Test Driver
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Where Did They All Go, No Love for Wagons?
Hi Club Lexus friends!
Inspired by post in General Car Chat, I thought it would be cool to make a thread about wagons since I just learned they still do exist.
Almost never see them anymore and when I do, they're very old.
No love for Wagons anymore?
It's all about the SUV now?
Which is better?
<Spoiler alert> I like wagons. lol
Here's the new Mercedes E-Class wagon and probably deserving of it's own thread but yes, they still make them.
Full specs, source
Inspired by post in General Car Chat, I thought it would be cool to make a thread about wagons since I just learned they still do exist.
Almost never see them anymore and when I do, they're very old.
No love for Wagons anymore?
It's all about the SUV now?
Which is better?
<Spoiler alert> I like wagons. lol
Here's the new Mercedes E-Class wagon and probably deserving of it's own thread but yes, they still make them.
Full specs, source
#2
Lexus Champion
Unfortunately wagons (Estates as they're called in Europe) just aren't popular in the US. Audi sells a couple here based on the A4 and A6 but they sell in tiny numbers vs. the CUV's and SUV's as you can imagine. I really like the Mercedes in the picture. Another favorite is the BMW 5 Series. I think they call it Touring, but not sure.
#3
The reality is that most SUVs are really just lifted wagons. They are car-based, unibody vehicles which bear little resemblance to the original definition of an SUV (truck-based, body-on-frame).
Wagons are sport-ish SUVs.
Wagons are sport-ish SUVs.
#5
I don't think most people like Wagons, I personally think they look goofy and I can't stand them. BMW is making an M5 Touring and bringing it to the US but I would NOT get that over the regular M5 Sedan.
#6
Pole Position
I see the appeal - I really like the new Audi wagons when I see them around (which is rare). I'd own one - but it would be only when I was shopping for a new car/sedan. I wouldn't consider one to replace our SUV as one of the requirements would be ride height.
#7
Pole Position
The first car I ever bought new from a Mercedes wagon. Why wagons are viewed as they are viewed escapes me. More space and practicality than their sedan equivalent, and better riding/handling and generally more efficient than any CUV/SUV equivalent. The line between a traditional wagon and some crossovers is pretty blurry, probably to avoid something being labeled a wagon...
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#8
drives cars
Whenever I see an RS6 Avant, I am quickly reminded that wagons are cool. Well, some of them. I think it would be hard to choose between an RS6 Avant and an RS7 if I was in the market. I think the RS7 looks better, but I know underneath they are pretty much the same, with the RS6 being more practical.
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Lexus Champion
#10
Lexus Champion
I do like wagons, but they wouldn't work for my family as well as our CUV (Highlander) does. I like a bit of additional ground clearance for the snow, though it's not a showstopper. The extra interior height was always easier when loading the kids into car seats (a phase we're finally out of), and the taller doors assist in that as well.
The biggest benefit for us is the higher seating level, which is much easier for our parents, who are getting older. For example, I can't take my MIL with me in the GS, because the seating position is low enough that she must pull herself up to exit the car, which is a struggle. It's easier for her to go in the Highlander (or her Durango), to just turn, step down, and exit. Not unlike a minivan.
The biggest benefit for us is the higher seating level, which is much easier for our parents, who are getting older. For example, I can't take my MIL with me in the GS, because the seating position is low enough that she must pull herself up to exit the car, which is a struggle. It's easier for her to go in the Highlander (or her Durango), to just turn, step down, and exit. Not unlike a minivan.
#11
Lexus Champion
Whenever I see an RS6 Avant, I am quickly reminded that wagons are cool. Well, some of them. I think it would be hard to choose between an RS6 Avant and an RS7 if I was in the market. I think the RS7 looks better, but I know underneath they are pretty much the same, with the RS6 being more practical.
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#13
Lexus Fanatic
Hi Club Lexus friends!
Inspired by post in General Car Chat, I thought it would be cool to make a thread about wagons since I just learned they still do exist.
Almost never see them anymore and when I do, they're very old.
No love for Wagons anymore?
It's all about the SUV now?
Which is better?
<Spoiler alert> I like wagons. lol
Here's the new Mercedes E-Class wagon and probably deserving of it's own thread but yes, they still make them.
Full specs, source
Inspired by post in General Car Chat, I thought it would be cool to make a thread about wagons since I just learned they still do exist.
Almost never see them anymore and when I do, they're very old.
No love for Wagons anymore?
It's all about the SUV now?
Which is better?
<Spoiler alert> I like wagons. lol
Here's the new Mercedes E-Class wagon and probably deserving of it's own thread but yes, they still make them.
Full specs, source
I like wagons too, they just aren't practical enough for my needs. American needs and european needs are different.
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