coming big uaw strike?
10-16-23 | 10:11 PM
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Thanks for the question. I support most of the strike demands.....not necessarily all of them. I'm firmly behind good wages, job security, and, most importantly, pensions (IMO, pensions are the most critical thing of all). But I'm not sure I support the demand for a 4-day work week....some people find excuses to take too much time off of work as it is, and it makes out harder for those who are left on the job. They have to work harder and/or more hours to fill in for the slackers.
We also need laws and contracts, IMO, to keep UAW jobs from being exported, but that may be getting into the realm of politics too much...I won't go into that too deeply.
10-16-23 | 10:17 PM
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How can you support a person that trouts out a slogan that is a call for violence. That is not negotiating that's putting a gun to the head of Ford and GM, he's trying to hurt these companies as much as possible.
10-17-23 | 06:05 AM
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uaw loves to talk about huge profits the car makers have, but i looked at ford which had a 5% margin in the last year if i read it right. still a lot of money but profit isn't just there to be handed put to employees, it's for reinvestment too, to make the company stronger.
uaw wants to grab now, to hell with the future.
uaw wants to grab now, to hell with the future.
10-17-23 | 07:04 AM
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How can you support a person that trouts out a slogan that is a call for violence. That is not negotiating that's putting a gun to the head of Ford and GM, he's trying to hurt these companies as much as possible.
I'm not necessarily supporting Sean Fein or the rest of the UAW's high-management.....in fact, there is evidence that they are corrupt, and some have faced Federal charges. It is the rank-and-file workers I'm behind....they are the ones struggling to pay their bills.
10-17-23 | 12:17 PM
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Ford and GM are not to blame for people struggling to make ends meet it is very disingenuous to suggest this. Cost of living is spiraling out of control and you want GM and Ford to pick up the tab, makes no sense.
Yes there is "evidence" UAW is corrupt. Racketeering, embezzlement, and tax evasion.
Yes there is "evidence" UAW is corrupt. Racketeering, embezzlement, and tax evasion.
A corruption probe by the Justice Department against UAW and 3 Fiat Chrysler executives was conducted during 2020 regarding several charges such as racketeering, embezzlement, and tax evasion.[47][48][49] It resulted in convictions of 12 union officials and 3 Fiat Chrysler executives, including two former Union Presidents, UAW paying back over $15 million in improper chargebacks to worker training centers, payment of $1.5 million to the IRS to settle tax issues, commitment to independent oversight for six years, and a referendum that reformed the election mode for leadership.[50][51][52] The "One Member One Vote" referendum vote in 2022 determined that UAW members could directly elect the members of the UAW International Executive Board (IEB), the highest ruling body of the UAW.[53]
10-17-23 | 02:19 PM
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10-17-23 | 02:36 PM
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It's not all that disingenuous. The spiraling cost of new and used vehicles is partly to blame for that inflation-spiral, although I'll agree that dealers are just as much, if not more, at fault than manufacturers. And when you have a situation where a typical CEO like Mary Barra makes some 300+ times the average salary of assembly-line workers, IMHO it's time for a re-adjust.
Sure, she has a job with a lot of responsibility (that's a given), but so does the guy on the line who has to check and make sure that critical parts of a vehicle are attached securely, so that they don't fall off at 70 MPH, kill people, and bring a lawsuit against the company.
10-17-23 | 03:10 PM
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It really hasn't ever bothered me that these higher up execs make a ton of money. I work for a large company. Our execs are in the news, they get grilled by congress, they take the blame for the bad times, and get ousted, very publicly, when their time is up. You couldn't pay me enough to do that. I figure it's a career path I could have went down had I felt any interest in doing so.
10-17-23 | 04:18 PM
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Here is an article that explains it in better detail........
https://www.epi.org/publication/ceo-pay-in-2020/
10-17-23 | 04:23 PM
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Please read what I posted. I did not say to take it directly out of Mary's salary. What I was doing is comparing her salary to that of the average worker....and how, in the last several decades, that comparison has hugely skyrocketed.
Here is an article that explains it in better detail........
https://www.epi.org/publication/ceo-pay-in-2020/
Here is an article that explains it in better detail........
https://www.epi.org/publication/ceo-pay-in-2020/
And when you have a situation where a typical CEO like Mary Barra makes some 300+ times the average salary of assembly-line workers, IMHO it's time for a re-adjust.
10-17-23 | 04:30 PM
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10-17-23 | 04:43 PM
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Did you? Article is over 9,000 words you read the entire thing? From the article:
This is blatantly false. I already showed you if Barra was paid zero and every dollar went to workers instead the increase in pay would be nearly irrelevant.
Her compensation package is about the last thing GM needs to worry about.
Why it matters: Exorbitant CEO pay is a major contributor to rising inequality that we could safely do away with.
Given the way she has run GM lately, I'm still pondering that question LOL.
10-17-23 | 08:33 PM
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Anyhow, back to the UAW strike. Buick is not as affected by it as some other GM divisions, because only the big Enclave is built here in the U.S....the others are built in China (non-union) or in Korea, with union-labor. Encore GXs for the American market are at least built in Korea, with a Union.
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10-17-23 | 08:39 PM
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Did you? Article is over 9,000 words you read the entire thing? From the article:
This is blatantly false. I already showed you if Barra was paid zero and every dollar went to workers instead the increase in pay would be nearly irrelevant.
Her compensation package is about the last thing GM needs to worry about.
This is blatantly false. I already showed you if Barra was paid zero and every dollar went to workers instead the increase in pay would be nearly irrelevant.
Her compensation package is about the last thing GM needs to worry about.
10-17-23 | 09:44 PM
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I think some also missed the point of the Strike was pay raise increase.
Barra got a 34% increase over 4 years. They are only offering 20% to the other employees. They also had to Strike to even get to 20% I think. I would bet that if the numbers were the other way around and the point was brought up, that GM would be pointing out the difference in their favor instead.
Barra got a 34% increase over 4 years. They are only offering 20% to the other employees. They also had to Strike to even get to 20% I think. I would bet that if the numbers were the other way around and the point was brought up, that GM would be pointing out the difference in their favor instead.